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wkc5657
post Jul 6 2018, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jul 6 2018, 11:00 AM)
would like to ask for 225/45r18, between Michilen PS4, Continental UC6, MC6, which is more quiet and still has good control in wet road?
at highway i don't speed, always using cruise control at 110km/h but during heavy rain or cornering in highway i don't really decrease speed much as well
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I can vouch for what 6UE5T mentioned, as i just changed a set of v12evo2 on 225/45/18 size. Good value for money, and the best part is there is no penalty on rolling refinement (and could be even better than your current tyres).

FK510 should be available now if you put in a little effort to look around, as the official website have that product up very recently :
http://www.stamfordtyres.com.my/tyrespasse...p?b=1&c=1&t=147

Price wise, it is a slight premium to v12evo2 (but still cheaper than ps4). But the premium is worth it as the performance and refinement metrics is a notch better than v12evo2.

If no hurry, wait a while for fk510 to saturate the market and the supply stabalises. The pricing could be more favourable (or you wait till official launch of fk510 in hopes that there will be bundled initial launch goodies/promotions).

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post Jul 6 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jul 6 2018, 12:19 PM)
what are the recommended shop for Falken in klang valley?
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You try calling Ah Seong 012-699 1962

QUOTE(Emiya Shirou @ Jul 6 2018, 01:53 PM)
i see the price of PS4 seem like quite tempting now around RM580/pc and heard people said it's more quiet and comfortable?? cause I don't really like my current Toyo T1 Sport, a bit noisy and stiff ride
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When earlier you mentioned 225/45/18, i already suspect what car you're currently having. Then when now you mentioned T1 sport, then i confirm you drive the skyactiv mazda3.

You and me, abang adik kakak lar....me drive same car also laugh.gif

Seriously, don't swipe aside the hankook just because the brand is not as prestigious as michelin/continental/goodyear/bridgestone/(whatever well known brands). Why i say so is because it is a really value for money, yet good performance tyres. And since you mentioned stiff ride, it is even more suitable for you as the hankook has softer sidewalls.

Best of all, the noise is so much muted. For myself, on my favourite radio channel, i turned down the volume by 2 points, and it is still clearer and louder than when i had the t1s on. And throughout the driving speed till 150km/h, the engine revving noise and wind buffer noise is louder than the tyre noise!!! And you know that on the t1s anything above 60 is starting to hit your nerves.

It is hard to describe it, but the hankook's tyre noise signature is like mmmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUU

As comparison, the t1s is like wwwwwwwuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH (the tyre pitch is much higher and louder, making conversation very difficult at higher speeds, and even more suffering for the rear passengers)

I even dare say that mazda malaysia chose the wrong tyre for the mazda3. If fitted with something like the v12evo2, hands down there would be at least 10% more mazda3 on the road. People (and even i myself) doubt that the mazda3 has really bad insulation, but actually not that bad, the main culprit is the toyo tyres, t1 shit!!!! After fitting the v12evo2, the driving character sounded so much better and you can now actually have a proper conversation at highway speeds.

The ps4 is will definitely be louder than the v12evo2, but not as harsh as the t1s. If you really want silent, maybe can consider the newly launched michelin primacy 4 if falken FK510 is not your cup of tea. Primacy 4 is premium touring tyres, definitely silent ride :
https://www.michelin.com.my/MY/en/tires/pro.../primacy-4.html

225/45/18 not officially available at the moment, but i checked michelin uk's website have this size. So maybe you can ask around for confirmation. MSRP quite close to what ps4 is selling now.
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post Jul 9 2018, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(chaoskid @ Jul 8 2018, 08:49 AM)
There's continental mc6 for mazda 3 size ... RM400++

Road noise through the yellow lines are much more softer to hear than stock T1 Sport...

i've change all 4 to mc6 and definitely way better than stock toyozzzzzz
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The t1 sport totally ruined the car's refinement; if the civic fd was spec-ed with this tyre, it would also be noisy to the max on the road. Mazda factory spec-ed it wrongly. As i mentioned earlier, even use cheaper but equivalent level hankook v12evo2 can change the refinement character significantly. Initially thought that the sound insulation of the car was below average, but after swapping to new tyres, i would say that the insulation level is pretty much on par. Those with the facelifted gvc version also have a slight bump in refinement area also.

I hazard guess that a swap of tyre from factory could at least bump the car sales by at least 10% for the mazda3.
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post Jul 12 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jul 12 2018, 10:36 AM)
What's the price for those profile?
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Just go mudah website to check.

On average, won't exceed RM630.
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post Jul 13 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(gacktleong @ Jul 12 2018, 04:31 PM)
Im using same tyre size as urs.

How much u got bro? I gonna change my donuts soon...
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I'm from down south, the pricing not as competitive. I got mine at RM400/pc inclusive alignment + balancing + metal valve).

You can continue ask around your place since you know that it shouldn't cost more than RM400. If can bargain till about RM350, it is consider quite a reasonable deal. After all, all that extra driving around and effort and time cost, sometimes that bit extra compared to the cheapest option you know is worth the convenience.

If no hurry, just wait for the FK510, spec wise is has better rolling refinement and grip performance.
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post Jul 16 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Jul 14 2018, 08:08 PM)
Hows the FK510 treadware. Since it is made in japan.
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If not mistaken, it should be 300.

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post Jul 17 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Jul 16 2018, 06:30 PM)
if thats the case almost same with ps3 320 or v12 also 320 if not mistaken
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This tyre rating numbers have no set standard to measure/compare. There are quite a lot of factors influencing how fast tyre wears down :
- tyre pressure
- weight of car
- weight balance
- suspension geometry
- how hard the driver accelerates/brakes/corners
- tyre compound
- etc

It more like serve as a general indicator that if above 350, it is long wearing compound not for spirited handling.
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post Jul 19 2018, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(uncle tut @ Jul 19 2018, 10:09 AM)
btw, wat tyre compound it is for ps4 / v12 evo guys?
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No one knows the exact tyre compound recipe other than the manufacturer itself, it is their trade secret.

The main components of the compound are :
1) rubber
2) artificial rubber
3) carbon black
4) silica

The rest is their secret sauce (like yokohama boast about using orange oil in some of their line ups)
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post Jul 21 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Jul 21 2018, 12:50 PM)
just like to ask regarding my xm2. I changed two of my tires to 185 55 15 at a michelin store few weeks ago. few days ago I pump the tires and surprised that the pressure is almost 320kpa from the usual 220kpa. the shop also pump the other 2 non michelin tires to 320kpa. is that normal?
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Maybe the shop didn't check or calibrate their pressure probe/reader, ridiculously high air pressure as only new cars out of factory pump to that kind of pressure to avoid flat spotting in the event of prolonged storage.

Just bring the pressure down to the recommended air pressure for your car.
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post Sep 1 2018, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(andreas @ Sep 1 2018, 05:39 AM)
noticed 'wung wung wung' sound as i approach 40kmh, the sound repeated faster as speed increase. th noise will go off after 100kmh.

done alighment balancing n camber during tyre change. no vibration at high speed, tested until 150kmh.car also not lari one side if my steering straight.

any opinion?? i want to have little knowledge before i go to tyre shop, later scared they lie said nothing is wrong. tq
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This is the tyre's resonance frequency that caused this noise, my car also similar, just the speed range not as wide as yours.

Nothing to do with the alignment and balancing of the car. You can play around the tyre pressure to reduce the speed range of this noise.

6UE5T you have this issue on the myvi and swift?
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post Sep 3 2018, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(andreas @ Sep 1 2018, 08:47 PM)
will the resonance frequency faded after tyre break in. nway i will not noticed it if i really focus on detecting it/ when turn on radio.. haha..
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I'm not sure whether it will go away after breaking in as mine still have it after driving 2000km already. As you mentioned, if don't really pay attention, won't really hear it as not so obvious. It also depends on the road surface.

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post Sep 8 2018, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 7 2018, 07:58 PM)
Fitted the hankook k120 to my gf's V40, just got back from a roadtrip to Pg, didn't notice any loud resonance noise. Tyres was mostly quiet and only roared when the tarmac got rough which is normal for every tyre. Just cruised home at 110kph, smooth and no dramas.
Now on the look out for new tyres for her sister's 2.4L CRV with the 18 inch wheels. Not much choice and expensive in Pg.
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Resonance hum differs from car to car, as the use of materials types, length, density of pretty much everything in the car will have an effect of amplifying or dampening it.

Good that the v40 didn't exhibit such an issue, mine wasn't that obvious unless you try to concentrate on it. Volvo's noise insulation is already pretty good to start with.
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QUOTE(fakerdemit @ Nov 25 2019, 02:45 PM)
hi all,

looking for a quieter tyre to replace my myvi gen3 stock tyre.

from what i read cc6 is the best in comfort and quieter tyre but bad on wet conditions. i mainly drive in the city on weekdays and highways on weekend where i usually drive quite fast.

any recommendation or advice is welcome! right now on my list are:
1. cc6
2. v12e2
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option 2 hands down, don't think about others anymore.

 

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