im confused.....
getz
-much older..... and much cheaper
-not exactly a cheap and cheerful car. Cheap to buy, not very cheap to maintain

i10
-to me this is like a getz replacement
-not sure about maintanance dont think it will be that cheap, (cost price to maintanance ratio ofc)

axia
-wait what... new for 20k or less ??!!
-cheaper to maintain (im sure) than the 2 above
-better mileage than the 2 above
-im also sure its out of your budget

satria neo
-simple no problems
-makan minyak je

your budget seems abit.... welll looks like its not really 20k....
(am not sure bout this, but i thought perodua sells their cars on loans~~ u mau bayar cash also they duwan to accept , that is what happened to my aunt 3-4 yrs back, she went all over the place but all wanted to sell WITH a loan...)

a neo for 20k would be an older NON-cps model.. if you can afford it, get a newer, more fun (manual for alot lot more fun) cps unit (around 25-30k from a dealer, pretty sure you can get a decent unit for 25 or so from an owner)
note that, the neo is more of a 'performance' oriented car. It is NOT frugal. It is also an older car so dont find an abused/modified unit if you do go this route.

there is also zenix's favorite goto latio which will do the job. reliable, reasonable maintanance, cheap to buy.

car prices are never fixed...


-taking into account only new sc part costs, proton is cheaper than perodua.... and proton isnt like they used to be back then, the newer models are actually quite reliable. The only part on the flx that can cost more to maintain on the flx would be the cvt.


well..... which model, which variant?
if its the 1.4 with the dsg, let me ask you this...
1)do like to gamble or play russian roulette?
- yes, this car is for you.
- no, resume to no2
2)are you in love with this particular model and have some savings in event things do go wrong?
- yes, well go ahead,
- no... stay the hell away.

if its the 1.6, well... reliability is alright i guess... but its nothing special in this configuration...
typical gearbox, typical engine. Nothing special, no dif from any other car out there BUT comes with the euro maintenance costs.

pay more?? nono, spec for spec... actually the persona is cheaper....

comparing these 2 cars new, IMHO iriz is only a good choice if you get a relatively new used unit. Incredibly silly (maybe even stupid) to get a new iriz. Go compare specs and prices, persona is just better value but only looses in 2 aspects.
1) its more difficult to park (then again if u cannot park this car, please get off the roads)
2) roadtax as the iriz is available with a 1.3 (if you cannot afford the 1.6 roadtax, pls dont even consider buying a new car)

the persona is basically a updated iriz with a lower pricetag and a bigger buntut

my 2 sen~

dif variants, diferent conditions, and diferent sellers... sold by shop, they need a cut, some owners feel that their cars are worth alot..... hence a much higher pricetag but down the road they cant sell it and only readjust much further but by then the car has further devalued. (< i smell a grammatical error there)
*my own car was one of them, previous owner offered it at xxxxx but called me up again after a few months offering it to my for 1/2 the initial offer (no you read correctly, half!!!!!)

that little bit is not true...... myvi 1.0 bs myvi 1.5, the 1.5 uses less fuel in most scenarios. bigger cc but you have the torque and power to push the car with less revs. Its very complicated....

the new potongs seem to offer good milage... especially good if you drive with a feather foot. Its also seems relatively decent long distance BUT its not as stable or as spacious as the previous persona... (old persona is much larger and in my opinion nicer to hammer corners with, stability wise)

one note tho, given the mialge you clock... u might wana find a car that offers unlimited mileage warranty.

well... in my case... he did try sell the car way way above market value.... it did come with some pretty rare stuff, not a common car not really a good example.

in your case, it wont be as badly hiked up since its a common model.

not sure what you're reffering to?
Such as? Got such thing? > what are you referring to?
Who to look for in this case? > what case?

owai
being called fanboy, ouch terasa

its supposed to be a performance (or sporty at leastlah) car.... but ohh so true. Campros are basically suckky engines... for a 'sporty car' it's most powerful cps engine of this era cannot even hold up to similar engines by mitsu and honda from the 90's

**but i do like the chassis itself tho.... transkplant in the mitsu's and wallah! problem solved

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 7 2016, 01:56 PM

ahh, yes certain models (more like certain makes) are offered with these kinds of warranties... not those in your list however.... only cheap car i can think of with this sort of warranty right now would be haval....

haha good stuff cost alot here in malaysia.... on a budget well, susah sikit.......

that fc tho.... new tech electronic stuff really helps sips fuel.... my fc is almost double that gti.....

ohh you drive a ctr?? naisss

erm.... 1st or second version of what..... toyota has a gazilion models and trims to select from...

there is no way to answer this... depends on the condition of the car i guess.... if its basically brand new with less than 10km, yeah go ahead, if its been in 20 accidents and had no roof, i think its a bad idea......

anyway, the newer generation of 08 (iirc it was upddated in 08) can be found for around 40k+? otr.... the last of its batch models are easily available for lower than that

really depends on your needs + what you want....

referring to the bolded bits: To me... fast + economical isnt viable.... unless you define what is fast............ to me fast-ish is something faster than 80% of whats on our roads (which to be fair, isnt much given the number of slowpokes on the roads nowadays)

cant really tell if its a good deal before viewing....
*make sure you know how to view used cars*

i highly approve!!! but ohh my... its a dangerous game you play here!!!

at this point i dont even know why im even answering you im already imagining an street 'racer'/ahbeng in the making....

anyway..... let me put it that way, personally, to me anything under 7 secs is alright, under 4-5 secs thats fast..... to another person, anything under 5 is decent, under 3 is fast. depends on one's perspective.....
so now, i ask you again... what is considered acceptable to you?
top tip: your expectations should be set lower than mine~

**also, 0-100 figures are not everything... pickup is not completely reliant on those figures.

i can think of pretty much 0 brand new cars under 100k which can do 100 in under 7 seconds..... again i repeat my tip to you, expectations should be lowered.

this bit "6 speakers with goodie sound, comfortable for long ride , quiet in the cabin" to me, when i read this i feel it sort of heading toward massive d segments then i see budget 100k, so okay... maybe the more comfy c segments or possibly snug b segs..... then good economy with power... gg

with power comes 'less goodly' fc
with weight comes 'less goodle' fc & acceleration

so looking towards a certain cheaper marque, aka potong.... well theres the Preeefe SeeEffSee and Supreeemah Ess~ which sort reaches close towards most of ur goals other than the fc bit.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 12 2016, 01:30 PM

few notes,
1)vios 1/2 gen basically the same thing, just wearing a diferent dress. Assuming conditions are the same, its basically down to aesthetics.
2)older car = 'usually' more wear and tear

i guess you know of the general consciences of buying an older car now. So yeah, to me its the same thing, no real obvious option here. its down to what condition said car is in, price of said car and which you prefer.


edit: oh yeah.... why vios... why everyone wants a piece of vios?? this confuses me to no end........

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 12 2016, 04:14 PM