i have seen these on the road several times. engine is the same as what you find in the vitara (i think it was the vitara?), so getting it up and running should be no issue at all. spare parts also boleh cari, same like any other suzuki.
if you ask me, there are only 2 bigger issues with this model.... as you can see, it does not seem to hold its resale value very well (strange cause it is a very pretty car) and two, its small.... im not 100% sure but i the civic x's interior seems more spacious.

thats no ordinary accord... thats the fancy sports model. The ride is on the frim side.

the lexus is also european-ish but maintanance... erm

fuyoh... smaller than kancil or viva... sorry man only thing sold locally smaller than that i can think of atm is the smart for 2....

your requirements are a tad strange... better go back and rethink things

this kind of budget with those requirements... hmmm
going with the budget+type as the priority and reliability+maintenance cost as a secondary concern and fc being something you have to accept.

better options:
kenari
-quite spacious for a family
-reliable, its a proven machine, will do its job
-low maintenance, parts easy to source,any bawah pokok mechanic can fix it (if you wana fix it yourself also no problem long as you have tools and basic knowledge) BUT its old and you might need to replace stuff, 3 potter loves to munch mountings, and vibrate
-fc is on the decent side, not bad, not great (compared to what cars are capable of nowadays)
-aint great long distance if you ask me but will do the job

waja/wira
-for obvious reasons
*wiras yr2000 and onwards (avoid the 3 speed autos if possible)
*the 1.8 waja is terrible so make sure to view only the campro or mitsu models (cps keluar budget)


other less optimum options:
matrix
-relatively decent allrounder (as with the kenari) with better power (not saying much) BUT maintanance figures will not look that nice (not gona bring in the rest of the old cheap kimchi cars for this reason alone)

kembara(only here cause you listed suv)
-similar to the kenari other than its underpowered and is pretty unstable
-honestly dont like this thing, dont know why im even posting it here
-you can do better

eg civic & toyota seg
-relatively decent cars but very old, migth end up spending lots on refurbishing it

*there are some d segments like old camry's and accords which you can buy but tax+maintanance figures might be out of your range?*

im not an owner but i can tell you, it isnt the cheapest car to maintain IF you compare it to a myvi. You must remember, at the end of the day it's not a local car whose parts are competitively dirt cheap and can be fixed by almost anyone. Think it as an imported european car and the 1.6 is somewhat alright to live with. (getting the 1.2 tsi in my opinion is just asking for it)

kizashi.. err yeah i think it was you.... dont really like the look of the more recent japanese d segments other than that and the mazda 6


aiyoh whylah compare to keranda....its so curvy, so sporty!!


the one i really really like is the older gen mark X with the 2jz and the euro accord... probably cause the 2jz hype and all that.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Sep 14 2016, 12:58 PM

if you are really interested in his myvi, find out how much a shop is willing to pay for your friends car then make a offer which is slightly better, sort of win win scenario

new city vs used civic hybrid..... pretty much comparing a new car with warranty vs an older higher end car which has more expensive parts + wear and tear.... its really a pro, con thing...

about the civic, you should firstly know that while it does share parts with the civic, its parts are more expensive than the city. Secondly if you intend to keep it long term, there is the hybrid 'factor' to consider... how long would it last and when it does need to be fixed, who can deal with it? (so far, from what i gather, it is fairly reliable and the replacement battery isn't that expensive) Mechanics outside should have no issue dealing with the car so long as they dont have to mess with the hybrid system...

*i suggest you join the owners club and ask them more about it first before deciding + read up on honda's ima... its frankly not as 'clever' as toyota's take on hybrid designs

**lol just a personal opinion... civics were meant to be sportier machines.... this hybrid is a lie!!! (jkjk)

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Sep 18 2016, 12:21 PM

Assuming all you need is something to move you around frugally... (no mention of brands, size, or performance)
u might wana look at:

+ bezza (new)
+ persona (new)
+ saga (incoming, not sure whats it loaded with or whats the deal like yet)
+ iriz (used, 1-2yo. Have seen 1yo top range models sell for less than 40k which is basically peanuts....)

frankly speaking i have a feeling you are
1)will be difficult to get the xv30 camry for 20k (the xv20 however is within budget) same can be said for an 05 altis at that price, i think you might need to revise your budget for that kind of money.
2)peugeot 207 is cheap for a reason, my advise? dont touch it....

small budget + dont want p1/p2 well.......... you can consider:
-4th gen city's (GD) - do have takara air bag issues lol, gearbox can be an issue. (1.5l engine tho)
-nissan Sentra - simple, reliable
-ohwai..... no more choices!?!? (there are a few but.... meh)
*not looking at cars pre-2005 (dont think you want one that old but since you mentioned 05 cars...) or kimchi/euro cars.*


conclusion:
revise budget OR get a car older than 05 OR open up your options to include p1/p2..... also, think about how much wana spend on the car yearly

proton is actually reliable, and the punch cvt's while are not brilliant, are so far alright. so if reliability is a concern, that's not much of an issue... flaws they have yes, in spades but they will run and keep running long as you provide basic maintenance

*just wana comment abit, busy doing something*

said forumer was not me.... BUT i have personally been to this shop years ago.... was interested in saga blm's at that time... they had spade loads all in black, all selling for below market value at that time... they advertised as, accident free+low mileage, great deal right? yeah.... we (me n my dad) found that all 6(or 7) units we viewed at that time were accident vehicles... some pretty well covered up.

When questioned, they said yeah accident free. viewed the cars, looked great on the outside, but upon closer inspection, radiator mounts not 100% straight, rear section under the covers crushed slightly, bumper bars under the bumper bent, signs of putty repair. pointed the damage out to the salesman and would answer, 'ohh boss yang kata xde accident, i xtau, xpe ade banyak lagi' ...... Dont know if i trusted them very much after the 3rd time he said that.. not even sure if the milage was genuine at that point. If you want to view positively, on the plus side they did admit all cars were resprayed and that was why all were black. Cannot say if this is still their practice as i have mentioned last time i visited was a long time ago (at least 4-5 years).

mechanically the engine itself is relatively easy to maintain.... its a basic mitsu anyway. wear and tear also ok... (not sure bout drive shafts tho)... just keep in mind that, the body panels, trim might cost alot more (assuming you want to refurbish it), frankly speaking would not get that if you are on a tight budget. if you just like it for what it is and are willing to spend bits here and there on the car, sure go ahead....

well nicer cars would cost more (obviously the demand of a better/prettier car would be higher)

why dont you give me a few examples of nice cars....? might be useful in this case.... need to know whats ur taste like...
some like fiat coupes, some like beetles, some like old beemers and old alfas.

the 10k budger + reliability would be the major limiting factor here... only reliable + somewhat pretty thing i can think of atm is the satria....

mind you these 2 cost alot more to maintain

the v6 perdana's are exp to maintain and has a pita gearbox, the old 'sei' models are aliright BUT are very old now, most are quite worn....

i have a tiny update, have a friend who owns one of these. He says interior parts are alright, can get from halfcut shops..... the thing you should worry bout would be the gearbox which is an amt..... apparently not a common problem since not many have issues with it but you should keep in mind that the gearbox related components can cost an arm....

hmmm i think you need to do a little more research before you continue... at this point, im pretty sure you have not really done much research on this car. Find out which parts are shared and which parts are not.....

mechanically 60% shared possible. now, what about the the other 40%?

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 4 2016, 11:53 AM

between the 2, personally like the inspira (i did always have a soft spot for the inspira), maintanance and fc might be alittle higher then the vios but it is a larger and more powerful car. only thing missing on the inspira is esc (or whatever u call it). Best would be to find a non-abused STANDARD unit. no kits no rims, 100% STANDARD.

well... a vw with no dsg ehh? the polo 1.6 has no dsg... but its pretty much a kosong car with a german badge same like how the vios is a kosong car with a japanese badge

vios
-kosong car
-reliable as hell!
-cheap to maintain (relatively)
-kinda not worth it due to the high resale value (since you are buying used, its not in your favor)
*admit, i have a hatred of this car so could be biased*

inspira
-its basically a sushi car (earlier batches were mainly japanese)
-fairly reliable if not abused and maintained (typical sushi car)
-cheap to buy, maintanance is reasonable.
-looks decent, nice to drive, powerfulish (its not really a performance car but its no slouch)
-slightly ahbengish cause many convert it into evos tarnishing its image
-proton badge (dont think its a problem)
-no esc (not like the rest have it anyway)

polo 1.6
-also a kosong car (saga of for germans!)
-cheap to buy, maintanance while is not crazy, is on the highish side of things
-not really special if the tsi+dsg combo is missing (but at least the problems dont come along)

or you know... new persona which if you can deal with the size, is a viable option~

amt's yeah same like manuals... BUT big but here..... that mechatronic system (i think they call it the arm or actuator) once rosak, fuuuyohhhhh!!!!

not sure if the gearbox mounts are the same.. but logically speaking, our mechanics are very creative, if wana masuk, sure can masuk punya