Seriously, if working in Exact is as bad as you describe, then why don't you just leave the company? If you've got the qualifications, skills and knowledge, I'm sure you'd be able to secure a job with a better future.

Office politics... which company doesn't have them? Even in government offices (where everyone thinks life is a bore!), staff play office politics too. Why? Simply coz they think that's the fastest way to get noticed and move up the corporate ladder. Yes... there are shoe polishers in Exact, but there will come a time when these shoe polishers have to proof their worth. Recent changes in the org structure have seen a reshuffling of the middle management, with some of those "shoe polishers" being assigned to manage new teams. Don't you notice that amongst those that have resigned, there are those "shoe polishers" who no longer can shine shoes and kiss those "white asses" like they used to? It is pretty obvious that the reshuffling exercise is also testing their capabilities. Perhaps they are also aware that they can no longer "have their cake and eat it" and have decided to move on.

Yes, there are also staff leaving because of many other reasons. Some because of higher pay, better job prospects, change of job scope, travel opportunities, etc. The list can go on and just narrowing it down to simply blaming the current management is a rather shallow analysis of the situation.

"The 4 monkeys"... what good have they brought? All those promotion and high increment for "shoe polishers" was done during the 4 Monkeys' era. Now that they are no longer in the management, these "shoe polishers" are also scared shit of they own "rice bowl".

Is there really nothing positive to say? I think you're missing out on a recent case where the management DID listen to what the staff had to say. For example, a Mgr was "demoted" when his staff grouped up and complained about him to the Management. He transferred to another team and eventually left the company. This example has shown the middle mgmt that they are not as high-and-mighty as they think. Some are beginning to show some improvement in their people-skills, unlike before where there were Mgrs who shouted at their staff without giving a damn whether other people heard. What about those all-expense paid sports activities organized for staff? And extra fund allocation for self-organized team events? Bear in mind that not many companies would pay for these extra curricular activities.

Management change/ restructuring happens ... and usually old staff find it the hardest to embrace new changes. Maybe some of the planning and processes are questionable, but a lot of what is currently being implemented is done as a learning process for a lot of the middle mgmt and staff. Maybe, we should give the new management setup a chance to proof what they can do. It's been barely a few months and is still too early to say how good or bad they are. Sometimes, if you don't try, you don't know.

As for team building at KLGCC for the Managers, so what about it? Lots of other companies do that for their managers too! If you're so concerned about spending the day at KLGCC, then do something and get yourself promoted. Become a Manager... then go and have your lunch at KLGCC. And, don't forget to treat your staff too!

BTW... the singing has already stopped. And step heavily on the floor and hitting tables??? Haven't seen that yet.

Seriously, if working in Exact is as bad as you describe, then why don't you just leave the company? If you've got the qualifications, skills and knowledge, I'm sure you'd be able to secure a job with a better future. ([COLOR=red] well, if exact is as good as wat u said, prove to us!! and yes, you another typical manager, asking ppl to leave, idiot. u should look into the problems and not asking ppl to leave!!!)

Office politics... which company doesn't have them? Even in government offices (where everyone thinks life is a bore!), staff play office politics too. Why? Simply coz they think that's the fastest way to get noticed and move up the corporate ladder. Yes... there are shoe polishers in Exact, but there will come a time when these shoe polishers have to proof their worth. Recent changes in the org structure have seen a reshuffling of the middle management, with some of those "shoe polishers" being assigned to manage new teams. Don't you notice that amongst those that have resigned, there are those "shoe polishers" who no longer can shine shoes and kiss those "white asses" like they used to? It is pretty obvious that the reshuffling exercise is also testing their capabilities. Perhaps they are also aware that they can no longer "have their cake and eat it" and have decided to move on. ([COLOR=red] u trying to say the left staffs are shoe polishers???now the remain ones especially managers are the best ones??) pls go and check how many staffs have left b4 saying the above statement.

Yes, there are also staff leaving because of many other reasons. Some because of higher pay, better job prospects, change of job scope, travel opportunities, etc. The list can go on and just narrowing it down to simply blaming the current management is a rather shallow analysis of the situation. ([COLOR=red] ppl wont simply searching for job if they are happy like YOU, you are the narrow minded one)

"The 4 monkeys"... what good have they brought? All those promotion and high increment for "shoe polishers" was done during the 4 Monkeys' era. Now that they are no longer in the management, these "shoe polishers" are also scared shit of they own "rice bowl". ([COLOR=red]pls dont forget you are also hired by them, or else you are the proton guy's or HR fren. If you are not one of the shoe polishers, you will not come out with the above statement)

Is there really nothing positive to say? I think you're missing out on a recent case where the management DID listen to what the staff had to say. For example, a Mgr was "demoted" when his staff grouped up and complained about him to the Management. He transferred to another team and eventually left the company. This example has shown the middle mgmt that they are not as high-and-mighty as they think. Some are beginning to show some improvement in their people-skills, unlike before where there were Mgrs who shouted at their staff without giving a damn whether other people heard. What about those all-expense paid sports activities organized for staff? And extra fund allocation for self-organized team events? Bear in mind that not many companies would pay for these extra curricular activities.  ([COLOR=red]if all the staffs gang up now, you guys are dead. You think u can still maintain ur managerial post? Be nice to them from now onwards, dont be a YES man/woman, dare to say NO!)

Management change/ restructuring happens ... and usually old staff find it the hardest to embrace new changes. Maybe some of the planning and processes are questionable, but a lot of what is currently being implemented is done as a learning process for a lot of the middle mgmt and staff. Maybe, we should give the new management setup a chance to proof what they can do. It's been barely a few months and is still too early to say how good or bad they are. Sometimes, if you don't try, you don't know. ([COLOR=red]improve it! dont argue here!!)

As for team building at KLGCC for the Managers, so what about it? Lots of other companies do that for their managers too! If you're so concerned about spending the day at KLGCC, then do something and get yourself promoted. Become a Manager... then go and have your lunch at KLGCC. And, don't forget to treat your staff too! ([COLOR=red] well you forgot, this is Exact, pls refer to the earlier comments on how to bcome a manager in Exact)

BTW... the singing has already stopped. And step heavily on the floor and hitting tables??? Haven't seen that yet. ([COLOR=red finally u admit we did sing song!!)

Seriously, if working in Exact is as bad as you describe, then why don't you just leave the company? If you've got the qualifications, skills and knowledge, I'm sure you'd be able to secure a job with a better future.

Office politics... which company doesn't have them? Even in government offices (where everyone thinks life is a bore!), staff play office politics too. Why? Simply coz they think that's the fastest way to get noticed and move up the corporate ladder. Yes... there are shoe polishers in Exact, but there will come a time when these shoe polishers have to proof their worth.

Recent changes in the org structure have seen a reshuffling of the middle management, with some of those "shoe polishers" being assigned to manage new teams. Don't you notice that amongst those that have resigned, there are those "shoe polishers" who no longer can shine shoes and kiss those "white asses" like they used to? It is pretty obvious that the reshuffling exercise is also testing their capabilities. Perhaps they are also aware that they can no longer "have their cake and eat it" and have decided to move on.

Yes, there are also staff leaving because of many other reasons. Some because of higher pay, better job prospects, change of job scope, travel opportunities, etc. The list can go on and just narrowing it down to simply blaming the current management is a rather shallow analysis of the situation.

"The 4 monkeys"... what good have they brought? All those promotion and high increment for "shoe polishers" was done during the 4 Monkeys' era. Now that they are no longer in the management, these "shoe polishers" are also scared shit of they own "rice bowl".

Is there really nothing positive to say? I think you're missing out on a recent case where the management DID listen to what the staff had to say. For example, a Mgr was "demoted" when his staff grouped up and complained about him to the Management. He transferred to another team and eventually left the company.

This example has shown the middle mgmt that they are not as high-and-mighty as they think. Some are beginning to show some improvement in their people-skills, unlike before where there were Mgrs who shouted at their staff without giving a damn whether other people heard. What about those all-expense paid sports activities organized for staff? And extra fund allocation for self-organized team events? Bear in mind that not many companies would pay for these extra curricular activities.

Management change/ restructuring happens ... and usually old staff find it the hardest to embrace new changes. Maybe some of the planning and processes are questionable, but a lot of what is currently being implemented is done as a learning process for a lot of the middle mgmt and staff. Maybe, we should give the new management setup a chance to proof what they can do. It's been barely a few months and is still too early to say how good or bad they are. Sometimes, if you don't try, you don't know.

As for team building at KLGCC for the Managers, so what about it? Lots of other companies do that for their managers too! If you're so concerned about spending the day at KLGCC, then do something and get yourself promoted. Become a Manager... then go and have your lunch at KLGCC. And, don't forget to treat your staff too!

BTW... the singing has already stopped. And step heavily on the floor and hitting tables??? Haven't seen that yet.

i'm like to enjoy real man show...wahaha....by the way, for fare to each party, when u request ppl fill in their name and details in the company, i think the one who request that oso has do samething lo.....since outsider like me n others duno who u r oso.... but i wish to c the flaming continue... fyi, i might joining these "suck" as u say company...still thinking....

It's not a bad deal. Bonded 1.5 years for a trip to the Netherlands worth about RM10k. Finish 1.5 years, then leave. Learn a lot about ERP somebody said. Well, good luck on that.

yes, he shouldn't have done that.

should have invited him to comment here, anyway, according to his blog, he will update us with what Exact did to him soon, all we have to do is stay tuned!!

fu... yohhhhhhhh, i need to be low profile abit liao, heard ak and his cronies are trying to find out whoAMi ... :'( :'(

He has started to post abit of stuffs in his blog...

Exact is just a company. All company is having their pro and con. There is something that amazed me is, such a bad company but, there is still so many people working there. And those who's complain that this company sooooo bad, why are you guys still there? And for those who just silently sit there and focus their own little world, how the management should or able to notice you? Shoe polisher is happened anywhere. Well, if your management value solely on this kind of people, it's too bad or there is something that you guys did not see??

All I can say is, stop whinning as it will not bring you elsewhere. You don't like, you look for a better ones.

I got no relationship with this and I do enjoy the show.

Exact is just a company. All company is having their pro and con. There is something that amazed me is, such a bad company but, there is still so many people working there. And those who's complain that this company sooooo bad, why are you guys still there? And for those who just silently sit there and focus their own little world, how the management should or able to notice you? Shoe polisher is happened anywhere. Well, if your management value solely on this kind of people, it's too bad or there is something that you guys did not see??

All I can say is, stop whinning as it will not bring you elsewhere. You don't like, you look for a better ones.

I got no relationship with this and I do enjoy the show.

Are you sure u not working in Exact? If so, your general input is not required since u are NOT working in Exact. Let those who have more experience talk about it. Thank you.

na .. lcly.. for u. 

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