true.. true.. so just leave everyone.. why are you guys all waiting for?

thanks for admitting the fact that THERE ARE shoe polishers in Exact, but seriously, you Exact managers only mix with other managers most of the time. so how much can you see? Even if you do not mix with them much, a good manager wil be able to detect shoe polishers.. the problem is.. most managers there are technically incompetent.. or prefer to be shoe polished...so how would they know who is doing a better job over the other? Thus, I'm not surprise many shoe polishers come into the picture... as you said... and admitted, it's the fastest way in Exact to rise!!

well.. i still see lots of show polishers around though... when are those going to resign?

yup.. true.. but seriously.. if your company is truly fantastic... why would anyone leave? if they are really bad staff.. why did you all employ them in the first place? i remembered a senior manager said that those left are ALL imcompetent bunch as they are only rated "C" and only 1 or 2 are rated "B". The fact is, most are rated "C" so 90% of you guys are imcompetent... think about that.

please do not blame everything on them... the current management isn't really fantastic after all... in fact, exact was more open before the new came in. In other words.. more doesn't trust the management now, it is less open now... thus, this forum came into the picture to voice out their disatisfaction

this guy who was demoted before most of the new management came in, dun bluff us..

by the way, who's the one that has the power to make these changes right after he joins?

hahaha.. this is a joke.. what about the case where some of your colleagues are "warned" with harsh words for whatever reason? not to mention "shrek3"'s post that sounded very much like someone we all know too well... if this is the kind of managers you have, better stay away man... but i must find out if it's still true of the rumours...

yup.. lots of benefits, but mostly to benefit the company.. but better than nothing after all...

barely few months eh? i think it's about halve a year or more already... we shall see then... the question is, after 6 or more months , shouldn't the situation be improving?? so is the situation worse with the old management or new?

hhmm.. old staff find it hard to embrace? first of all, are we embracing the good stuffs?? that's the other question..

i've no problem over that.. just do whatever you like, but at least earn our trust.. show us you're better than the previous management... until now.. 6 months later.. turnover's still very high

yeah.. this is another proof that the management implement things without much thought.. havn't you realize computer programmers are different from factory workers yet? we're not as stupid as you think!

This post has been edited by spiderman3: Jun 6 2007, 04:15 PM

ai yo.. that's what i meant in the first place. those of you not happy.. chow lar........... chow far far away...... why suffer inside and get threats by managers??? when they have better people joining Exact, they will categorize you as "noisy ducks" and push you out if you're a "duck" of course!!! (but i'm still confused if those rated "C" are "ducks" if so, please leave immediately!!) and also dun bother to talk to your manager, they might categorize you as "ducks" too!

no lar.. it's not a totally bad company. they have good working environment, physical environment to be exact. you'll get good new pcs, intel core 2 duo maybe 2 GB RAM, anyway, what they are trying to do now is to "clear old stock"; which means now, it seems that they will only take in "super qualified" people and try to so call emulate microsoft? so if you guys can get in.. that means you are "super qualified" and after that whether you are REALLY "super qualified" or not, it's all up to you. but if you get inside.. one word of advice, be VISIBLE.. and super visible... you don't have to be really good.. just enough to bluff your way through (since they won't really know who are the really good ones anyway, mostly based on how you potray yourself)... and yeah.. please practice your "fu yooh" shouts... it might come in handy

ai yo!! more than 400 pple still working inside mar... if 100 left, there are 300 more!!! looks like they are not very bothered anyway. like i said.. they want to "clear old stock" or what shrek3 put it.. "ducks"

if you're a tiger, please join. brainy or not, nevermind. it depends on how you potray yourself as i'd mentioned. if you're a duck.. stay away and they'll love me for saying this!!

disclaimer: i'm not paid to help promote Exact

This post has been edited by spiderman3: Jun 7 2007, 06:01 PM

yup, you're definitely right! there's no perfect company and other companies might have their own problems. but seriously, there are better companies out there too!! think about it. i agree that those who are not happy with exact, resign!! cabut man.. what are you guys waiting for?

eerr.. are you related to Shrek3 ah? yup, what he says has truth in it but you like managers who talk about "balls" and threaten people right? good, then come join us then.. by the way, how much do you know Shrek3 if you're not working here?

hahaha.. dun worry CityManiac, just join in the "fun". By the way, i dislike and ashamed by the way "whoarewe?" speaks. even if you dislike or unhappy about something, please do it right. so think before you write or you'll just be like Shrek3. and i suggest you quit also since you're so unhappy there!

there's a reason why this forum came about like I said. the management is not as open as before. and if you complain to express your displeasure too much, you'll be blacklisted. many had experienced this before. by the way, have you read the entire forum and see what's all this about? what are the problems we face etc etc? i invite you to join exact if you can. do come and see for yourself.

hey, u think we can get a new job in an instant ah? if you're a nasi lemak tychoon's son then go ahead. moreover, we are bounded by 1.5 years contract... like i said .. have you been following the forum??? i can't be repeating the same points over and over again!

as for the person who blogs about the company, too bad for him. you're not too smart after all!!

this is what I call EDLC... an Exact Development Life Cycle

1. Old Exact - management by fear and other points
2. "mind map" ( or problem) identified by patel big boss & geng
3. communications task force in place (where are they now?)
4. "silver era"? (not golden yet since got production problem)
5. new boss - change processes
6. more new bosses - do they know about the "mind map" anyway?
7. Old Exact style (back to square one) - management by fear and other points created