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post Mar 24 2017, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
mirrorless like eos m3 have 49 AF points while dslr like 750d got only 19 AF points which are known all cross-type.

Does this mean m3 focusing is better in term of coverage? How about speed wise, I heard canon mirrorless one not good enough yet as their dslr counterparts.
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750d 19 focus points are very spread out dy coz it is crop frame

More focus points in this case usually means more precise point but may not be more spread out
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
mirrorless like eos m3 have 49 AF points while dslr like 750d got only 19 AF points which are known all cross-type.

Does this mean m3 focusing is better in term of coverage? How about speed wise, I heard canon mirrorless one not good enough yet as their dslr counterparts.
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I think 19AF cross type is pretty good and more than sufficient.
I used to make do with just 1 cross type AF with the 5d2 and 6d
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post Mar 25 2017, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 23 2017, 11:34 AM)
Depends on the condition of the camera. If around 20k shutter count or lower together with those 2 lenses, it is a good deal.

But as mentioned, ef m lens cannot be mounted on 600d and I think no adapter for it. I owe a 600d as well.

You can only use the efs lens for the 600d. The camera and the efs lens for rm1.5k I think also a fair deal if the camera condition is good and got extra accessories such as bag or batteries.
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This two lens with below 10k shutter count , 7000+-
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post Mar 25 2017, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Mar 25 2017, 08:56 AM)


This two lens with below 10k shutter count , 7000+-
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lens no count, only shutter got count smile.gif
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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Mar 25 2017, 10:03 AM)
lens no count, only shutter got count smile.gif
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Ya , if this 2 lens with 600d with the shutter count , 1500, consider good deal?
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post Mar 25 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Mar 25 2017, 11:28 AM)
Ya , if this 2 lens with 600d with the shutter count , 1500, consider good deal?
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Yup but again you can't use the ef m lens for the 600d. Just check everything properly if you decided to proceed.

Ps: just realized you posted the pictures which both is efs mount after I replied.

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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Mar 25 2017, 08:56 AM)
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This two lens with below 10k shutter count , 7000+-
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From the pictures seems both are efs mount lenses which you can use for 600d but I think both not stm version (older)

Still OK for 1.5k for all 2 lenses and camera. Just test kaw kaw before proceed
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 25 2017, 11:47 AM)
From the pictures seems both are efs mount lenses which you can use for 600d but I think both not stm version (older)

Still OK for 1.5k for all 2 lenses and camera. Just test kaw kaw before proceed
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like what we always say, test till battery flat then buy haha
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 25 2017, 11:42 AM)
Yup but again you can't use the ef m lens for the 600d. Just check everything properly if you decided to proceed.

Ps: just realized you posted the pictures which both is efs mount after I replied.
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sorry for misleading, cause zero knowledge in dslr, so seller just provide me lens type, i panai2 go search then copy link...

thanks for guidance..

and,

what should i check .?
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 25 2017, 11:47 AM)
From the pictures seems both are efs mount lenses which you can use for 600d but I think both not stm version (older)

Still OK for 1.5k for all 2 lenses and camera. Just test kaw kaw before proceed
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cause now 700D and 600D price is also quite near . just got extra lens for 600D package
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QUOTE(adam_lss @ Mar 25 2017, 12:03 PM)
like what we always say, test till battery flat then buy haha
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battery can be replace by 3rd party or the battery detector spoilt will cost high price ?
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post Mar 25 2017, 01:32 PM

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Here's what I might do:
1. check the camera's outlook whether there is any crack or not or it is as what mentioned on the sale.

2. before attach the lens to the camera, try check whether got any spots or not. if got some dust (not much), it is still ok coz lens over the time will collect some of it. You can check later whether it will affect the pictures or not. If the lens got other than dust such as fungus or some oily spots, better don't take it coz it might infect your camera sensor later on which is costly to repair.

3. try snap a few photos with both lenses to make sure the camera is working or not together with the lens. in the pictures try see got any spots or not. it might be difficult to check directly through camera screen but at least it is one of the ways.

4. for battery, ask the seller to charge for you till full so that you can test more during the COD. what's the purpose of testing if battery is not there. original battery cost more but it is better coz compatibility. I no use a 3rd party one before but it will be cheaper. for battery, you might can find a cheap one from shops in case they doing clearance sales.

5. if you not so familiar with camera, better ask a friend who is familiar with it to go with you.

6. if you just want a camera to learn dslr and plan upgrade for much better in the future (2 or 3 years time), 600D with lenses will be better than 700D alone. AT the end, the choice is yours.

Happy camera hunting.
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Mar 25 2017, 01:32 PM)
Here's what I might do:
1. check the camera's outlook whether there is any crack or not or it is as what mentioned on the sale.

2. before attach the lens to the camera, try check whether got any spots or not. if got some dust (not much), it is still ok coz lens over the time will collect some of it. You can check later whether it will affect the pictures or not. If the lens got other than dust such as fungus or some oily spots, better don't take it coz it might infect your camera sensor later on which is costly to repair.

3. try snap a few photos with both lenses to make sure the camera is working or not together with the lens. in the pictures try see got any spots or not. it might be difficult to check directly through camera screen but at least it is one of the ways.

4. for battery, ask the seller to charge for you till full so that you can test more during the COD. what's the purpose of testing if battery is not there. original battery cost more but it is better coz compatibility. I no use a 3rd party one before but it will be cheaper. for battery, you might can find a cheap one from shops in case they doing clearance sales.

5. if you not so familiar with camera, better ask a friend who is familiar with it to go with you.

6. if you just want a camera to learn dslr and plan upgrade for much better in the future (2 or 3 years time), 600D with lenses will be better than 700D alone. AT the end, the choice is yours.

Happy camera hunting.
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thanks for input

1)Noted

2)ok, the fungus like those green or black fungus right ?

3)will try to do it.

4)ok

5)Im not much friends who know about this . that why keep asking in forum.

6) i plan to do video shooting for promotional video and promo video . Cause when i use iphone do recording and yi 4k last time. i felt require to rise high voice , so that i plan to go into dslr and future upgrade for microphone..

really appreciate for your input
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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Mar 25 2017, 02:14 PM)
thanks for input

1)Noted

2)ok, the fungus like those green or black fungus right ?

3)will try to do it.

4)ok

5)Im not much friends who know about this . that why keep asking in forum.

6) i plan to do video shooting for promotional video and promo video . Cause when i use iphone do recording and yi 4k last time. i felt require to rise high voice , so that i plan to go into dslr and future upgrade for microphone..

really appreciate for your input
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To answer your question 2 and 6

Fungus will look like spider webs.
They're white in colour.

As for audio for video. Default audio from the DSLR sucks. Probably the same quality as an iphone.
Easiest is to get a rode videomic. Cheap and pretty alright for a shotgun mic that price.
Then you might want to get a lavalier. Either a wireless one or one which is recorded into a small recording device like the Zoom H1.

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So there will be an update to the Canon 5Dmk4
But there might be a need for a new heat sink for the processor to keep up with the new upgrade...
Esp the 4K with a larger sensor size.
http://www.canonrumors.com/crop-factor-cha...ng-update-more/

I do hope I'm able to do this upgrade without spending much money.
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*It's a RUMOR site .....and if so it's true that one has send it for hardware upgrade, Canon would have to pay for the expenses, with or without warranty, legally. That says, that would be a rare treat for a manufacturer to offer feature upgrades (not a defect) that involves a trip to factory. I am not skeptical about the video add-on but not certain about hardware upgrade tho.

QUOTE(LegendLee @ Mar 29 2017, 01:23 AM)
So there will be an update to the Canon 5Dmk4
But there might be a need for a new heat sink for the processor to keep up with the new upgrade...
Esp the 4K with a larger sensor size.
http://www.canonrumors.com/crop-factor-cha...ng-update-more/

I do hope I'm able to do this upgrade without spending much money.
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QUOTE(zeroendless @ Mar 30 2017, 11:02 AM)
*It's a RUMOR site .....and if so it's true that one has send it for hardware upgrade, Canon would have to pay for the expenses, with or without warranty, legally. That says, that would be a rare treat for a manufacturer to offer feature upgrades (not a defect) that involves a trip to factory. I am not skeptical about the video add-on but not certain about hardware upgrade tho.
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i dont think its possible for hardware upgrade, simply too much trouble for Canon hmm.gif
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Yeah, even black magic also software upgrade to give more features only

Never hardware
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QUOTE(zeroendless @ Mar 30 2017, 11:02 AM)
*It's a RUMOR site .....and if so it's true that one has send it for hardware upgrade, Canon would have to pay for the expenses, with or without warranty, legally. That says, that would be a rare treat for a manufacturer to offer feature upgrades (not a defect) that involves a trip to factory. I am not skeptical about the video add-on but not certain about hardware upgrade tho.
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It is a rumor site.
But canon rumors have articles with varying degree of certainty. That news article is nearly at the confirm stage.

Its a heat sink replacement. Well, we will see.

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Mar 30 2017, 02:11 PM)
It is a rumor site.
But canon rumors have articles with varying degree of certainty. That news article is nearly at the confirm stage.

Its a heat sink replacement. Well, we will see.
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Well it is highly likely there will be a firmware update that contains C-Log and to be announced in NAB. Other stuff is uncertain.

Anyways it already shoots 4k at 500MBPS so why does it now need heat sinks? Does compressing it to 120 or 200 MBPS will cause it?

Hardware changes are going to be complex for 2nd hand market. Unless they giving the heat sink upgrades for free they better off bringing a new model like 5DC. Otherwise this might be very confusing for a 2nd hand buyer. And one of the perks for Canan is good 2nd hand value that don't depreciate fast.

I'll wait to NAB to see what updates they really putting on the 5D and hope to see another new camera introduce itself in that show, which might be either 6d Mark2 or C100 mark 3.

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