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hitch80
post Apr 4 2016, 07:57 PM

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Ini satu GILA punya thread. I left for 30 minutes...21 new posts, left for 2.5h hours 72 new posts....this is getting mad. free advert for maxis....can be in the 2016 history news ka for new years eve celebration end of this year


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post Apr 4 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 4 2016, 07:39 PM)
Hi guys,
Firstly, thanks to jackson5759 for sharing this information with all of us. With LY community sharing this information has benefitted us all greatly as consumers, myself included.
I don't usually post in here, but this time reading through this thread compelled me to reply.
I do not wish to get into the debate of this all, but merely want to offer my 2 cents.

WARNING: Long rant ahead.

I have been a Maxis customer for about close to 20 years now. I use my Maxis line together with my 2 corporate company lines which is Celcom and Digi.

With that said, the reality is that loyalty counts for nothing these days. The faster some of you accept it, the better.

Maxis Head of Marketing Services
I sincerely believe you guys should stop picking on her. Don't make this personal, she's hired to say what he bosses want her to say, don't you guys see that? It makes it seem like most of you guys think she owns and decides everything.
I applaud her to take up the challenge to respond to this s***storm that's coming their way.

Maxis deserves to be called out, that I agree, but to make it personal and hounding her personally, is not.
Please distinguish person from the company. They made this decision as a company, so direct it at them, not her.
Based on what I found out, I'm not surprised if she didn't know about the 'loyalty department' until people started to complain.
Please be civilized about this.
Allow me to share my 2 cents objectively.

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My Experience
After this incident came to light, I did ask myself should I continue with Maxis? The cost for data on my Maxis line compared to Celcom was too hard to ignore. Ideally, I would’ve preferred to use Maxis over Celcom as my backup go-to line. Aside from being slightly more expensive, I never really had a problem with Maxis.

So yesterday I took the leap and ported to Celcom simply because the data disparity and cost difference was too huge to ignore. Since I have changed my role in my company, I do not really need to travel much anymore, so porting to Celcom wasn’t really a problem for me. I’m aware of the emotional attachment to Maxis having used them for so long, but alas, the cost difference was just unjustifiable to me.

True to its word, this morning I received a SMS to confirm me porting to Celcom and I replied YES without any hesitation. Within 20 minutes I got a call back with a counter offer from their loyalty department, which all of you have posted here.

Offer 1: RM 68 for 5GB, unlimited calls and data for social apps (FB, What’sApp, WeChat, Instagram), free Spotify
Offer 2: RM 88 for 8GB (1GB is for first 6 months only, after which will be 7GB), unlimited calls and data for social apps (like above), free Spotify

Then I asked for what other things can you offer me. The consultant then referred me to her ‘manager’.
The last offer was with a device.

Offer 3: Free Note 5, tied to 24 months contract, RM 158/month for 24 months, 5GB data, unlimited calls (basically Offer 1, RM68/month).

I told them I needed time to think, and to call me back. Which they did call me back once, but I told them I needed time since I was in a meeting.

I called back to Maxis Call Center 5 hours later because they did not call me back, and they couldn’t trace the person who called me, saying they have sent an email to call me back. They didn’t. I called them back THREE TIMES, as I wanted to stay with Maxis.
Then I received a SMS saying my number has been successfully ported over.

So thanks Maxis, but you just lost another customer. I will return only when the price is right. Until then, you have left a lot of people with bitter taste in their mouths.

As huge of an organization that you are, I understand that you have many levels and areas which is clearly defined (i.e. call center, service center and ‘loyalty department’), but at the end of the day, your customers are unhappy. You need to address this as you are bleeding customers.

‘Loyalty Department’
Oh by the way, their ‘loyalty’ department is actually outsourced to a company. So before you guys think it’s Maxis, it’s not. That’s why they have a “fixed offer” they read out to you to retain you. Don’t try to ask for more because it’s not their call to offer you.

The problem is in their own very system. The standard call center can’t help you. The ‘loyalty department’ can only give you these read out scripts. Makes sense now? The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing!
Nice going Maxis!
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Agreed. Personal attacks are uncalled for - alot of mob mentality going on here.
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post Apr 4 2016, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(ADJ @ Apr 4 2016, 07:58 PM)
Agreed. Personal attacks are uncalled for - alot of mob mentality going on here.
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Personally to me as well, just talk about Maxis as a whole not individual. One inside person from maxis cannot help much, it is more on collective decision.
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post Apr 4 2016, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(ADJ @ Apr 4 2016, 07:58 PM)
Agreed. Personal attacks are uncalled for - alot of mob mentality going on here.
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I second that as well. She's just earning a living. I wouldn't have posted on her personal FB had maxis not banned me from their FB page.
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 4 2016, 07:39 PM)
Hi guys,
Firstly, thanks to jackson5759 for sharing this information with all of us. With LY community sharing this information has benefitted us all greatly as consumers, myself included.
I don't usually post in here, but this time reading through this thread compelled me to reply.
I do not wish to get into the debate of this all, but merely want to offer my 2 cents.

WARNING: Long rant ahead.

I have been a Maxis customer for about close to 20 years now. I use my Maxis line together with my 2 corporate company lines which is Celcom and Digi.

With that said, the reality is that loyalty counts for nothing these days. The faster some of you accept it, the better.

Maxis Head of Marketing Services
I sincerely believe you guys should stop picking on her. Don't make this personal, she's hired to say what he bosses want her to say, don't you guys see that? It makes it seem like most of you guys think she owns and decides everything.
I applaud her to take up the challenge to respond to this s***storm that's coming their way.

Maxis deserves to be called out, that I agree, but to make it personal and hounding her personally, is not.
Please distinguish person from the company. They made this decision as a company, so direct it at them, not her.
Based on what I found out, I'm not surprised if she didn't know about the 'loyalty department' until people started to complain.
Please be civilized about this.
Allow me to share my 2 cents objectively.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


My Experience
After this incident came to light, I did ask myself should I continue with Maxis? The cost for data on my Maxis line compared to Celcom was too hard to ignore. Ideally, I would’ve preferred to use Maxis over Celcom as my backup go-to line. Aside from being slightly more expensive, I never really had a problem with Maxis.

So yesterday I took the leap and ported to Celcom simply because the data disparity and cost difference was too huge to ignore. Since I have changed my role in my company, I do not really need to travel much anymore, so porting to Celcom wasn’t really a problem for me. I’m aware of the emotional attachment to Maxis having used them for so long, but alas, the cost difference was just unjustifiable to me.

True to its word, this morning I received a SMS to confirm me porting to Celcom and I replied YES without any hesitation. Within 20 minutes I got a call back with a counter offer from their loyalty department, which all of you have posted here.

Offer 1: RM 68 for 5GB, unlimited calls and data for social apps (FB, What’sApp, WeChat, Instagram), free Spotify
Offer 2: RM 88 for 8GB (1GB is for first 6 months only, after which will be 7GB), unlimited calls and data for social apps (like above), free Spotify

Then I asked for what other things can you offer me. The consultant then referred me to her ‘manager’.
The last offer was with a device.

Offer 3: Free Note 5, tied to 24 months contract, RM 158/month for 24 months, 5GB data, unlimited calls (basically Offer 1, RM68/month).

I told them I needed time to think, and to call me back. Which they did call me back once, but I told them I needed time since I was in a meeting.

I called back to Maxis Call Center 5 hours later because they did not call me back, and they couldn’t trace the person who called me, saying they have sent an email to call me back. They didn’t. I called them back THREE TIMES, as I wanted to stay with Maxis.
Then I received a SMS saying my number has been successfully ported over.

So thanks Maxis, but you just lost another customer. I will return only when the price is right. Until then, you have left a lot of people with bitter taste in their mouths.

As huge of an organization that you are, I understand that you have many levels and areas which is clearly defined (i.e. call center, service center and ‘loyalty department’), but at the end of the day, your customers are unhappy. You need to address this as you are bleeding customers.

‘Loyalty Department’
Oh by the way, their ‘loyalty’ department is actually outsourced to a company. So before you guys think it’s Maxis, it’s not. That’s why they have a “fixed offer” they read out to you to retain you. Don’t try to ask for more because it’s not their call to offer you.

The problem is in their own very system. The standard call center can’t help you. The ‘loyalty department’ can only give you these read out scripts. Makes sense now? The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing!
Nice going Maxis!
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Well said

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post Apr 4 2016, 08:38 PM

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calling to cs to ask loyalty department to call u back doesn't work anymore. if you dont accept the deal there and then, they will just port you out no second chances.
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post Apr 4 2016, 08:51 PM

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Hmm...
I only can agree some parts of your conclusion.

Maxis one plan for East Malaysia is cheaper, and use road condition as example, it is not a good idea.
If there is bad road, will you buy a Ferrari? I will scare my car will spoil. Back to the network, if i live there, i could not utilise my quota, i will just apply a pure talk plan for maybe RM30. Those will apply the RM68 plan, confirm live in somewhere can spend it.

Coverage - Most peoples do not care about the widest coverage. Most peoples only use their phone at home, & office. I am not saying having the widest network is bad, but not really useful for everyone. Most peoples will choose the best network around them, with acceptable price.
For congested issue, i used Maxis for 11years, 2years with umobile and 1year with celcom. Maxis is the one with the most congested issue for my area. The congested is like, totally cannot use, speedtest about 0.2mbps. Of course, in some areas only. Umobile, morning speedtest 10-15mbps, but night only 2mbps, still usable. Celcom has no congested issue yet, stable 20mbps.

Customer service - yes, maxis has the best customer service. No doubt for that. But it won't make me feel premium. If i have no issue, i won't contact them. And most of the time, the operator cannot do anything. They just pick your call, and transfer your report to technical team, which usually need 1-14 days to complete. If i cant call at the midnight, i will call at the morning. Unless something urgent like losing sim card.

Lastly,Loyalty Department - How to you know it is outsourced? Any source of this information? Your this conclusion make me feel very suspicious that you are working for maxis. Sorry if i am wrong.
From my past experience, maxis has special team (well-trained) to handle targeted customers, such as maxis one club, elite club, and so called loyalty dept.
I get this information from maxis website, many years ago, where to introduce the maxis one club.
Outsourced make me feel quite impossible. I only heard telco outsourced the debt collecting dept.

Anyway, these are my experience, correct me if i am wrong.
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QUOTE(hitch80 @ Apr 4 2016, 07:46 PM)
SELECTED customers already getting 188-100 for 7gb la
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QUOTE(kenjiJJ @ Apr 4 2016, 06:48 PM)
Maxis called earlier to proposed to me that i can upgrade my maxis one plan rm158 (currently unlimited calls and sms + 5gb data) to rm188 (unlimited calls and sms + 15gb). Thought it was a good deal, not until i see this thread. Lol

Then i tried to call their CS again to reverse the deal, been waiting for half hour and nobody entertained my call. I believe they wont answer any calls from us anymore as for now, but keep calling all those naive customers to feed them this beautiful liar.
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Accept 1st lo... coz i same with u 188 user, if not accept 7gb only. Plus no contract. Btw 188 for 15gb i dont think is a good deal, coz got port out ppl get offer 68 - 78 7gb-8gb...

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post Apr 4 2016, 08:57 PM

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I'm not a Maxis user but I respect the employee (Sulin Lau) attitude that speak up for the company while the so called Marten remain in silence. She must have felt sad due to overwhelming response from us on Maxis page after all the work she has done for Maxis. She's not the one to blame. All she does in that corporation is just suggesting and giving ideas and in fact it is the higher management that approves all projects/deals.
On the other hand, the blame should be on the corporation not on personal Sulin Lau life.
Whilst I respect what you are doing, I really do think that you should NOT expose your private phone number in public be it company provided number or not.

I really do hope the CEO would have guts to settle all this turmoil.
MAN UP!

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post Apr 4 2016, 08:58 PM

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Hi guys,

just sharing some maxis guy reply to me.. maybe he dont even aware that i was reading his reply.. hehe..

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QUOTE(jackson5759 @ Apr 4 2016, 08:58 PM)
Hi guys,

just sharing some maxis guy reply to me.. maybe he dont even aware that i was reading his reply.. hehe..

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lol lol, who would be so dumb enough to port in to maxis for their maxshit one plan.
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QUOTE(hensky @ Apr 4 2016, 09:00 PM)
lol lol, who would be so dumb enough to port in to maxis for their maxshit one plan.
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ya.. you guys cry here.. porting out.. just go ahead.. we have more customer coming in tomorrow.. lets chill.. step up.. be a man.. biggrin.gif life is unfair..
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QUOTE(hensky @ Apr 4 2016, 09:00 PM)
lol lol, who would be so dumb enough to port in to maxis for their maxshit one plan.
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Especially after we discovered so many non-standard variations of the One Plan
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QUOTE(jackson5759 @ Apr 4 2016, 08:58 PM)
Hi guys,

just sharing some maxis guy reply to me.. maybe he dont even aware that i was reading his reply.. hehe..

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in deny mode la ...... if maxis not worry, there will be no loyalty package now ...
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I think the rate of drop outs are moving more rapidly as compared to new signups lol
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Why maxis cant let go like a man ?
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Apr 4 2016, 09:16 PM)
in deny mode la ...... if maxis not worry, there will be no loyalty package now ...
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so you can see how arrogant they are including their employees
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QUOTE(jackson5759 @ Apr 4 2016, 09:25 PM)
so you can see how arrogant they are including their employees
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u can't blame them la, impossible he post something bad in public abt his own BOSS right ....
But some CS does tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ken20203 @ Apr 4 2016, 08:54 PM)
yaya.
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wah, really a big discount le drool.gif

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