Alright thanks

How good is the Fake Rupes ?

I will be using the 2 bucket method with grit guard.

When drying with QD/spray wax, will it interfere with my claying process or even the final waxing? Can I use turtle spray wax to dry then wax with Ultimate Paste Wax? Also which is the preferred method, drying with quik detailer or drying with spray wax?

Oops.. i missed your steps in prior post. Here's what i suggest..

1. Pre-rinse with a pressure washer (really this helps a lot if u are able to use it)
2. Wash with car shampoo
3. Rinse. No need to dry. Don't use drying aid.. just wasting product as this point.
4. Using the car shampoo diluted as lubricant, clay the car. No need for QD. Meguiar's GC has pretty good lubricity.
5. Rinse and dry. Now you may apply drying aid (spray wax) if you do not intend to use paste/liquid wax. Else skip the spray wax.
6. Apply wax, whether it is paste/liquid.
7. Admire results

For in between wax maintenance..
1. Pre-rinse with a pressure washer
2. Wash with car shampoo
3. Rinse.
4. Use drying aid and dry car.
5. Admire results

clay first before wax.

and may be your shampoo remove the wax already ... try use turtle brand if you not afford meguiars

Most likely the car shampoo has the cleaner ability embedded with it. Some el cheapo shampoo does that too.

Best is to go for a pH neutral shampoo for best result in keeping your wax last longer.

Personally i'm using Autoglym Bodywork Shampoo and Conditioner. Proven and tested to be pH neutral and works really well in preserving my wax with the water beading effect. Already 2 months down the road after application and the water beading effect is still good. I wash my car weekly basis.

actually how do we know if the wax still there ?

very smooth feel by hand ?

i just polish and wax yesterday

For my case since the wax comes with water beading effect, as long as the beading effect is still good, the wax is still there .

You can give it a try at Osren

Thanks for you reply!

I'll be following your recommended routine.

A few questions:
1. I just bought Meguiars Gold Class Liquid Wax. A friend of mine told me that liquid wax does not provide a complete wax protection, as in liquid wax is used to touch up paste wax. Is that true? I couldn't find any info. Should I go back to the store to exchange my liquid wax to paste wax? Price is the same.

2. I bought Osren degreaser FX for wheels cleaning, but only after I got home and read the label, I notice there is no mention of it being used for wheels. Is that the correct wash soap to clean wheels? I'm driving the latest model of Mazda 2. I am not sure what type of wheel it is.

3. Also does the brand of clay matters? I kept noticing soft99 and PG clay. I got myself the Osren clay.

4. Does Meguiars Quik Detailer require rinsing with water after use on paint surface? I recently used QD to remove lizard droppings.

5. Do you have any idea where I can buy lug brush in Subang Jaya Selangor?

This post has been edited by milyk: Nov 1 2016, 01:25 AM

1. Nonsense.. just a matter of preference. I find its easier to control the application quantity with the paste thou.
2. I don't think you need a degreaser unless the wheels are very dirty. Guess it should be ok thou make sure to use the correct dilution per instructions. I use car shampoo for my wheels as its painted. If you're not sure, i would suggest to err on the side of caution.
3. I'm using PG clay. Any brand above should be fine. Just be aware there are different levels of abrasiveness. So choose the less one as a start.
4. Nope.. no rinsing needed for QD. I know PG QD leaves streaks thou.. so don't ever buy that.
5. U can use a soft small painter's brush with the metal part taped up. Any DIY shop i would think..

This post has been edited by supersimple123: Nov 1 2016, 09:38 AM

How would you grade the abrasiveness of the PG clay? Do you have any experiene with the Osren clay?

I think I will be using the car wash for my wheels too.

Will be starting to wash my car at 5pm when the temperature isn't hot.

PG has 3 types. 1,2 & 3. with 1 the least abrasive.
If your car is black / very dark use 1.
Else use 2.
No idea with Osren.

Have fun.

Dear detailers,

I read around the internet regarding layering the wax. (waxing by hand)

Some say 2 layers to even out the finish.

Some say up to 6 layers for best results.

I'm using this wax: https://www.amazon.com/P21S-12700W-Carnauba...x/dp/B002LOP5E4

Thanks!

I have bought meguiars ultimate shampoo, retailers, quik wax and paste wax.

Now I have full set of products to protect my car.

It wasn't fun..

Took me 2 hours to open the products packaging, washing the buckets and I only got to wash my 4 wheels.

I will wash and wax tomorrow morning. I thought 2 fluorescent tubes will be bright enough for me to see, but I was wrong. Will start around 7 am so the water won't dry up itself.

By the way, when I was washing my wheels I thought of something, should I be spraying water to the wheel parts. I see lots of exposed metal. Will it rust?

U'll get your routine down after couple of times.
Try to get brighter lights. Else u will find later that u have missed spots. Quite irritating for an ocd
I take about 2hrs for my weekly routine which includes the interior and engine bay.
Btw.. If u keep up with the weekly spray waxing, u'll find the car is easier to maintain.

Since wheel areas are meant to be exposed to the elements, it shouldn't rust.

Oh I never thought of spray waxes. Will check them out.

Do you have any experience with Osren? Do they have an exchange policy? Just asking but will call them tomorrow.

6 layers of wax can be rather overkill. 2 layers usually more than enough, more important is to apply evenly and buff off evenly. use a small torchlight to check results.

This post has been edited by blurcase: Nov 2 2016, 01:49 AM

2 layers is more than good enough. Better to spend more time on surface prep. Imho the key to a better finish is the prep, not so much on increasing the layers of wax.

Nice wax choice btw