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windskill
post Nov 2 2016, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(milyk @ Oct 31 2016, 10:50 PM)
Thanks for you reply!

I'll be following your recommended routine.

A few questions:
1. I just bought Meguiars Gold Class Liquid Wax. A friend of mine told me that liquid wax does not provide a complete wax protection, as in liquid wax is used to touch up paste wax. Is that true? I couldn't find any info. Should I go back to the store to exchange my liquid wax to paste wax? Price is the same.

2. I bought Osren degreaser FX for wheels cleaning, but only after I got home and read the label, I notice there is no mention of it being used for wheels. Is that the correct wash soap to clean wheels? I'm driving the latest model of Mazda 2. I am not sure what type of wheel it is.

3. Also does the brand of clay matters? I kept noticing soft99 and PG clay. I got myself the Osren clay.

4. Does Meguiars Quik Detailer require rinsing with water after use on paint surface? I recently used QD to remove lizard droppings.

5. Do you have any idea where I can buy lug brush in Subang Jaya Selangor?
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Henry demo-ed wheel cleaning using Osren degreaser in one of the video. Check it out smile.gif (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBLWwsrKI6E)
You might not need to use the degreaser every time when you wash your wheel, probably once in a while or when the car wheels are really dirty.

Osren should have lug brush too. I saw it in their website.
ummul21
post Nov 2 2016, 02:08 PM

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Hi
My car is 2 month old. So far I never do any detailings, just wash once a week in meguiars car wash. Just normal wash only.

Should I wax or polish my car? Heard that new car cannot be polished too soon. Not really sure about that.

I just want my car to have the shine maintained but not really want to spend too much on that.

Thanks.
eric84cool
post Nov 2 2016, 02:18 PM

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anybody got idea on how to wash & spray some wax on engine compartment?
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post Nov 2 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(ummul21 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:08 PM)
Hi
My car is 2 month old. So far I never do any detailings, just wash once a week in meguiars car wash. Just normal wash only.

Should I wax or polish my car? Heard that new car cannot be polished too soon. Not really sure about that.

I just want my car to have the shine maintained but not really want to spend too much on that.

Thanks.
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Yes, can polish and wax. Paint has long cured.
It didn't just roll off the paint booth to your door step smile.gif
ummul21
post Nov 2 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(supersimple123 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:43 PM)
Yes, can polish and wax. Paint has long cured.
It didn't just roll off the paint booth to your door step smile.gif
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Thanks for the clarification notworthy.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM

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The myth about polishing cars: cannot polish too often else paint will gone.

Truth: Actually depends on clearcoat thickness. Factory paint clearcoats are generally thick enough to withstand in many polishing rounds before it hits the colour coat, especially if ur objective is only to give it a general buff and shine. If u are polishing by hand or DA polisher, even more so u have far less chance of doing enough clearcoat stripping to reach your colour coat.

Hope this reduces your polishing fear. smile.gif
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Nov 2 2016, 02:18 PM)
anybody got idea on how to wash & spray some wax on engine compartment?
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anybody tried to do some for engine bay?
supersimple123
post Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Nov 2 2016, 02:18 PM)
anybody got idea on how to wash & spray some wax on engine compartment?
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U need to know where the sensitive to water parts are and cover them up before washing.
Maybe u could share your car model and others might comment.

For my case i kept it clean since day 1 so i never needed to wash. Basically i do a weekly engine bay wipe with damp cloth, followed by spray wax application... I sprayed the cloth with spray wax till damp and wiped all reachable engine areas. It will not be real dirty in the engine bay if u maintain it weekly.. unless u drive in a dusty environment.
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post Nov 2 2016, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(supersimple123 @ Nov 1 2016, 09:15 PM)
U'll get your routine down after couple of times.
Try to get brighter lights. Else u will find later that u have missed spots. Quite irritating for an ocd smile.gif
I take about 2hrs for my weekly routine which includes the interior and engine bay.
Btw.. If u keep up with the weekly spray waxing, u'll find the car is easier to maintain.

Since wheel areas are meant to be exposed to the elements, it shouldn't rust.
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I am done washing and waxing my car. At first I wanted to use car wash as the lubricant for claying. But then when the car is wet and soapy I can't feel with my finger or hand whether or not claying is necessary. I didn't want to clay the whole car. So I ended drying the car and testing with my finger tips. I end up claying my whole car.....with QD. Next time I'm just gonna clay the whole car.

I noticed there are some spots of quik detailer that I did not dry off. Like the plastic exterior parts and rubber seal. Is that fine?

QUOTE(windskill @ Nov 2 2016, 01:46 PM)
Henry demo-ed wheel cleaning using Osren degreaser in one of the video. Check it out  smile.gif (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBLWwsrKI6E)
You might not need to use the degreaser every time when you wash your wheel, probably once in a while or when the car wheels are really dirty.

Osren should have lug brush too. I saw it in their website.
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I didn't plan my trip really well. I thought there's a lug brush at home. Anyway I got it from Ace Hardware. Not all branches carry it though.
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post Nov 3 2016, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(milyk @ Nov 2 2016, 10:56 PM)
I am done washing and waxing my car. At first I wanted to use car wash as the lubricant for claying. But then when the car is wet and soapy I can't feel with my finger or hand whether or not claying is necessary. I didn't want to clay the whole car. So I ended drying the car and testing with my finger tips. I end up claying my whole car.....with QD. Next time I'm just gonna clay the whole car.

I noticed there are some spots of quik detailer that I did not dry off. Like the plastic exterior parts and rubber seal. Is that fine?
I didn't plan my trip really well. I thought there's a lug brush at home. Anyway I got it from Ace Hardware. Not all branches carry it though.
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You should do the inspection by lightly running you hands over the paint after washing the car (after rinse). You can more of less feel the areas needing attention. Normally the flat surfaces like hood, boot and roof need more frequent attention.

U should wash your car after claying. This will remove the QD & clay residue and enable your wax to adhere better.

Its fine to leave the QD at those parts. It'll come off during next wash.

Another tip is you can use your spray wax to protect the plastic and rubber parts.. this is for the meguiars ultimate spray wax/ xpress wax.
I even use that spray wax for my windscreen and non porous interior surfaces. Quite versatile and safe for interior as its has low VOC.

Btw clay is for removing above surface contaminants. For below surface contaminants u need a polish like the meguiars ultimate polish. Unless your paint is already in good condition, you'll notice a difference post polish (for metallic paint, the metallic flakes will glitter more under light). Don't do the polishing often of course, but the abrasion of the clear coat is really minimal smile.gif

This post has been edited by supersimple123: Nov 3 2016, 09:45 AM
Jack234
post Nov 3 2016, 09:17 AM

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I'm thinking of buying car care products for a new brown colour car.
What should I start with?
Is the Meguiars gold class car wash and gold class wax enough? Any other better and cheaper options?
I just want my car to be protected from bird poop stain or other stain.
Thanks

This post has been edited by Jack234: Nov 3 2016, 09:18 AM
supersimple123
post Nov 3 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Jack234 @ Nov 3 2016, 09:17 AM)
I'm thinking of buying car care products for a new brown colour car.
What should I start with?
Is the Meguiars gold class car wash and gold class wax enough? Any other better and cheaper options?
I just want my car to be protected from bird poop stain or other stain.
Thanks
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Bird poop, tree saps, etc stains are an ongoing concern.
Unlikely wax able to protect if left to bake under sun for long/ a few days.
Wax is a temporary layer that buys u time. Best it to remove it soonest. Keep the "tools" in your boot for the quick job.

Protection is keeping a sacrificial layer over the paint and removing the contaminants soonest. Simple as that. smile.gif

Yes GC is definitely good enough for a car shampoo.
Depending on how serious u want to get, you'll need more products..

Simple startup..
- Soft microber cloths - lots (the key is to change the cloths as they wear out.. use a few times then throw)
- wash mitt (u can use microfiber cloths if u wanna save a bit)
- Buckets with grit guards
- shampoo (GC or equivalent)
- spray wax (get a multi purpose one like the ultimate spraw wax/ xpress wax.. makes your life easy rather than jugging too many products)
- tyre shine (get water based)
- paste/liquid wax
- applicator sponges
- leather conditioner/cleaner if u have leather upholstery

Have fun!
JIUHWEI
post Nov 3 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(supersimple123 @ Nov 3 2016, 07:43 AM)
You should do the inspection by lightly running you hands over the paint after washing the car (after rinse). You can more of less feel the areas needing attention. Normally the flat surfaces like hood, boot and roof need more frequent attention.

U should wash your car after claying. This will remove the QD & clay residue and enable your wax to adhere better.

Its fine to leave the QD at those parts. It'll come off during next wash.

Another tip is you can use your spray wax to protect the plastic and rubber parts.. this is for the meguiars ultimate spray wax/ xpress wax.
I even use  that spray wax for my windscreen and non porous interior surfaces. Quite versatile and safe for interior as its has low VOC.

Btw clay is for removing above surface contaminants. For below surface contaminants u need a polish like the meguiars ultimate polish. Unless your paint is already in good condition, you'll notice a difference post polish (for metallic paint, the metallic flakes will glitter more under light). Don't do the polishing often of course, but the abrasion of the clear coat is really minimal  smile.gif
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What is the difference between a polish and a compound?
I have both and I bought the meg's ultimate compound mainly to deal with the swirl marks better.

But I really have close to no understanding behind what it does to my clear coat.
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post Nov 3 2016, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Nov 3 2016, 10:08 AM)
What is the difference between a polish and a compound?
I have both and I bought the meg's ultimate compound mainly to deal with the swirl marks better.

But I really have close to no understanding behind what it does to my clear coat.
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A compound has more or higher abbrasives.
Polish has lesser and smaller abbrasives.

Compound for serious defects.
- Scratches
- Oxidation

Polish for light defects.
- Light Swirls
- Watermarks
ummul21
post Nov 3 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM)
The myth about polishing cars: cannot polish too often else paint will gone.

Truth: Actually depends on clearcoat thickness. Factory paint clearcoats are generally thick enough to withstand in many polishing rounds before it hits the colour coat, especially if ur objective is only to give it a general buff and shine. If u are polishing by hand or DA polisher, even more so u have far less chance of doing enough clearcoat stripping to reach your colour coat.

Hope this reduces your polishing fear. smile.gif
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I don't have time to do polishing on my own. Will send it to car wash that will be doing it.
Any opinion what type of polish and wax should I apply.
Since I have Meguiars cars wash in my hometown I'm planning to give them doing it. But don't know in detail what type of product to ask to to use.
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post Nov 3 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(supersimple123 @ Nov 3 2016, 09:59 AM)
Bird poop, tree saps, etc stains are an ongoing concern.
Unlikely wax able to protect if left to bake under sun for long/ a few days.
Wax is a temporary layer that buys u time. Best it to remove it soonest. Keep the "tools" in your boot for the quick job.

Protection is keeping a sacrificial layer over the paint and removing the contaminants soonest. Simple as that. smile.gif

Yes GC is definitely good enough for a car shampoo.
Depending on how serious u want to get, you'll need more products..

Simple startup..
- Soft microber cloths - lots (the key is to change the cloths as they wear out.. use a few times then throw)
- wash mitt (u can use microfiber cloths if u wanna save a bit)
- Buckets with grit guards
- shampoo (GC or equivalent)
- spray wax (get a multi purpose one like the ultimate spraw wax/ xpress wax.. makes your life easy rather than jugging too many products)
- tyre shine (get water based)
- paste/liquid wax
- applicator sponges
- leather conditioner/cleaner if u have leather upholstery

Have fun!
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I guess I will use gold class paste wax, but using hand to wax takes too much time and energy. Which car wax machine is suggested for a starter?
For the microfiber and wash mitt, can I get cheap China cloth? I saw branded one price is very high, I don't know if it's worth the price.
Thank you for the great post.

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post Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Nov 3 2016, 10:14 AM)
A compound has more or higher abbrasives.
Polish has lesser and smaller abbrasives.

Compound for serious defects.
- Scratches
- Oxidation

Polish for light defects.
- Light Swirls
- Watermarks
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Ohhhhhhh

Thank you so much bro!

Matilah I went one round compound my whole car unnecessarily doh.gif
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Nov 3 2016, 11:31 AM)
Ohhhhhhh

Thank you so much bro!

Matilah I went one round compound my whole car unnecessarily  doh.gif
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Nothing wrong with that. So now you know you don't have to compound anymore rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Just Polish > Wax all the way smile.gif

If you did it by hand (Compound), then you have nothing to worry about.
Normally Compound produces the best results with a machine (DA) polisher.
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QUOTE(ummul21 @ Nov 3 2016, 10:53 AM)
I don't have time to do polishing on my own. Will send it to car wash that will be doing it.
Any opinion what type of polish and wax should I apply.
Since I have Meguiars cars wash in my hometown I'm planning to give them doing it. But don't know in detail what type of product to ask to to use.
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If you are sending to a shop, then it will be up to the shop on what they use for polish and wax. Unfortunately u are sending them for a service, so it is their call on what products they use for their service.

To know what u are generally getting from the shop for their polish and wax service, u could go and wash there and see if they got any polish and wax jobs going on. While your car is washing, watch their polish job in progress. This should help give u more (or less) confidence in what they do. U should be also be able to peep at the products they use.

In terms of wax, my personal go to is Meguiars Ultimate Paste Wax. However, the main principle with any wax u want to use, whether liquid or paste, is to apply as thinly as possible. Applying thick coats often do nothing except waste your wax and make it harder for you to buff off in some instances. Applying a second coat (also as thinly as possible) is a better option compared to a thick coat.
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post Nov 3 2016, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ Nov 3 2016, 12:55 PM)
If you are sending to a shop, then it will be up to the shop on what they use for polish and wax. Unfortunately u are sending them for a service, so it is their call on what products they use for their service.

To know what u are generally getting from the shop for their polish and wax service, u could go and wash there and see if they got any polish and wax jobs going on. While your car is washing, watch their polish job in progress. This should help give u more (or less) confidence in what they do. U should be also be able to peep at the products they use.

In terms of wax, my personal go to is Meguiars Ultimate Paste Wax. However, the main principle with any wax u want to use, whether liquid or paste, is to apply as thinly as possible. Applying thick coats often do nothing except waste your wax and make it harder for you to buff off in some instances. Applying a second coat (also as thinly as possible) is a better option compared to a thick coat.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Will drop down to their shop ask what type of wax they will provide. They have a few package to offer previously but I didn't commit to any of it yet since I want to get some get recommendation before I proceed.

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