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 Car Care & Detailing [V5], Caring for your car apprearance

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N33d
post Aug 23 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Aug 22 2016, 09:36 PM)
Guys, need help =(

My car got stained with those irritating yellow tree sap but all the the, they washed off with ease but this time, i just left a blotch there. I tried to use the Soft 99 cleaner wax and some elbow grease but to no avail.

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When I tried to touched it, it sits even with the paint surface but if you shine light at an angle, you can clearly see that it's slightly bulged.

What the hell is this tree sap =(((
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clay it, if still cannot then polish, if still cannot then compound, if still cannot then sand laugh.gif
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post Aug 23 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 23 2016, 10:28 AM)
clay it, if still cannot then polish, if still cannot then compound, if still cannot then sand laugh.gif
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yeah, i read elsewhere and they say clay may do the trick but i think i'm just going to eff it la.... sending my car for coating this weekend so i guess it will be removed during the polishing work.
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post Aug 23 2016, 12:04 PM

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anyone tried liquid form of carnauba wax to remove tree sap? For those sap that are still fresh (not over for weeks) it works.

Carnauba wax have natural cleaning abilities + solvent that keeps it liquid (petro distillate) actually have cleaning abilities too..
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post Aug 23 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(flyt0thesky @ Aug 21 2016, 08:28 PM)
Hi all, any recommendations on value for money car shampoo products? Compare with wash & wax which 1 is prefer? As I am not washing my car at home every time, that's y just wan to buy some cheap and good car wash products to stand by..
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Among the cheaper car shampoo, only formalhero advertises salt free, soda free and ph-neutral. Salt/soda softens water and increases foam, but is bad because it promotes rust and increases the ph-level. It doesn't foam alot when I used it.
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post Aug 23 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(kitleon81 @ Aug 18 2016, 10:24 PM)
that's my bad boy, yeah  cool2.gif
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best FWD car i've owned. kinda miss my megane now tongue.gif


QUOTE(gfwong @ Aug 19 2016, 08:07 AM)
Waterless wash. See here and here. I always keep one in the trunk. The good thing about this is that no rinsing is required and there is a bit of protection until the next car wash.

Spray liberally onto bird's droppings, let it soak for a while. Dab with microfiber towel. Don't wipe but try to pick up the bird's droppings "vertically" as the droppings might contain small stones that will scratch your paint if you use wiping action.
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good blog you got there buddy. i actually purchased the turtlewax spray wax after reading your blog rclxms.gif


QUOTE(flyt0thesky @ Aug 21 2016, 08:28 PM)
Hi all, any recommendations on value for money car shampoo products? Compare with wash & wax which 1 is prefer? As I am not washing my car at home every time, that's y just wan to buy some cheap and good car wash products to stand by..
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i'm currently using Osren Bubble Wax Shampoo. i buy the 20 litres tong. lasts a good full year for the whole family. suds is good, and its not harsh till it removes wax.
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post Aug 23 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(derail @ Aug 23 2016, 05:06 PM)
Among the cheaper car shampoo, only formalhero advertises salt free, soda free and ph-neutral. Salt/soda softens water and increases foam, but is bad because it promotes rust and increases the ph-level. It doesn't foam alot when I used it.
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How about Tupps polymer wash that printed these?
- pH Neutral
- Polymer Protectants
- Anti-rust Agent
- No SLS
- No Phosphate

No idea on SLS and phosphate, are those related to salt and soda (in chemical term)?
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post Aug 23 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 23 2016, 10:28 AM)
clay it, if still cannot then polish, if still cannot then compound, if still cannot then sand laugh.gif
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Agree, agree. Actually sanding is not the end of the world you know... Done carefully, you can actually get results.
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post Aug 23 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 23 2016, 07:30 PM)
best FWD car i've owned. kinda miss my megane now  tongue.gif
Then you understand the joy, I'm doing some work on the car, even a few days I miss it already. Oops we are way out of topic
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post Aug 24 2016, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 23 2016, 09:38 PM)
How about Tupps polymer wash that printed these?
- pH Neutral
- Polymer Protectants
- Anti-rust Agent
- No SLS
- No Phosphate

No idea on SLS and phosphate, are those related to salt and soda (in chemical term)?
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I think
sls = foaming agent / soda
phosphate = builder / salt
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post Aug 24 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Aug 23 2016, 09:38 PM)
How about Tupps polymer wash that printed these?
- pH Neutral
- Polymer Protectants
- Anti-rust Agent
- No SLS
- No Phosphate

No idea on SLS and phosphate, are those related to salt and soda (in chemical term)?
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The wash+wax version has polymer protectants, the normal version does not have it. SLS is sodium lauryl sulfate, a common but harsh detergent. Phosphates are water softeners like washing soda but causes green bloom.
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post Aug 24 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(red-queen @ Aug 23 2016, 07:30 PM)
best FWD car i've owned. kinda miss my megane now  tongue.gif
good blog you got there buddy. i actually purchased the turtlewax spray wax after reading your blog  rclxms.gif
i'm currently using Osren Bubble Wax Shampoo. i buy the 20 litres tong. lasts a good full year for the whole family. suds is good, and its not harsh till it removes wax.
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How much does it cost for the 20l?
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post Aug 24 2016, 12:03 PM

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Lately get my hand on Makita 9237C. Some of car that I whack... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 24 2016, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(busta_dude @ Aug 24 2016, 12:03 PM)
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Lately get my hand on Makita 9237C. Some of car that I whack... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Nice..

Hye guys..i just bought a car. My first car; VW Jetta (white). So i was thinking how to take care of the car. Then i remembered about this thread..i read and read..got lost with all the technicalities and brands of products.

Then i went to youtube on how to take care of a car; to summarise their recommendations are;

1. Use waterless wash products to clean all the dirt.
2. Use clay to remove tough stain
3. Use second skin (???) as a layer of coating..i think its a kind of coating. Not sure myself.
4. Use wax to finish it of..as a final layer (?)

Just want to ask otais here if the above is the correct method or is there any additional steps?

And please suggest products that are not too costly.

Thanks!

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post Aug 24 2016, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(croness @ Aug 24 2016, 12:51 PM)
Nice..

Hye guys..i just bought a car. My first car; VW Jetta (white). So i was thinking how to take care of the car. Then i remembered about this thread..i read and read..got lost with all the technicalities and brands of products.

Then i went to youtube on how to take care of a car; to summarise their recommendations are;

1. Use waterless wash products to clean all the dirt.
2. Use clay to remove tough stain
3. Use second skin (???) as a layer of coating..i think its a kind of coating. Not sure myself.
4. Use wax to finish it of..as a final layer (?)

Just want to ask otais here if the above is the correct method or is there any additional steps?

And please suggest products that are not too costly.

Thanks!
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First off, congratulations on your new ride. Next, understand that you have a white car, this means:
1) watermarks/scale will be your main problem
2) scratches will be apparent but won't be as bad as black
3) protection is important to guard against discoloration. But this can be fixed with a good polish
4) and if you keep it clean it can be very rewarding... I know because I have an immaculate white 5 yo Civic.

However, lets get the basics right. Your primary way of washing your car should still be a neutral wash (with water). Great as waterless wash products are, the chances of scratching your paint is still higher. Find a good neutral cleaner and follow the general rules, wash from top to bottom, use a soft and plush wash mitt, etc. You may also want a scale cleaner or cleaner wax to get stubborn water stains off. Waterless wash can be used for times when your car is just slightly dusty or, if you keep it in your trunk, for that occasional bird poop (it'll come).

For a new car, claying is probably not required. Just run your fingers on your paintwork and see if you can feel any roughness, you shouldn't. After many months of use however, you might need it.

Now for coating and protection: it is definitely required, coatings/sealants/waxes take your pick. I'm a big proponent of spray coatings because they apply so easily and is pretty durable. That helps me apply it regularly rather than to skip it because I feel lazy or feel too tired. Basically I'm through with regular wax on and buff off type of waxes/sealants - frankly, they are just too much work (and too much promise). The rule of thumb is your car must always be at least slightly hydrophobic, which can be easily achieved by spending 10 mins after washing to coat the car fortnightly or so. Also find a product that you can afford! For me its Sensha Japan's range of products.

All the best and have fun with your new ride! thumbup.gif
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post Aug 25 2016, 08:30 AM

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Hi all, I just got my new car few weeks ago, plan to put a layer of protection on my City Modern Steel. Any recommendation besides coating which is more cost effective? Coating which go up to few k really out of my budget. Thanks.
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post Aug 25 2016, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(RANDHIS @ Aug 25 2016, 09:03 AM)
been searching wax vs polish, and found out u actually need to polish the car and seal it with wax.
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yeah
before i learnt about a thing or two about detailing,
i thought polish = wax lol


kitleon81
post Aug 25 2016, 04:51 PM

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Depends what kind of coating you'd like. Hard coating? Or spray coating? Or traditional wax or sealant? DIY or you prefer to send to a shop?
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post Aug 25 2016, 05:08 PM

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Has anyone purchased car detailing products from Amazon? Would I get further taxed by Malaysian customs?
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post Aug 25 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(sinistersin @ Aug 25 2016, 05:08 PM)
Has anyone purchased car detailing products from Amazon? Would I get further taxed by Malaysian customs?
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Not sure if they would ship liquids. But I've never tried la tongue.gif
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post Aug 25 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(sinistersin @ Aug 25 2016, 05:08 PM)
Has anyone purchased car detailing products from Amazon? Would I get further taxed by Malaysian customs?
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just make sure your total bill do not exceed RM500 and you'll be fine

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