THIS WILL BE YOUR PRIMARY OPPORTUNITY FOR REROLLS AND COMEBACKS!
LoTH - Laggers Of The Horde (http://www.lothguild.org)
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Pic taken on 31st January '07, 2 weeks after we establish

Pic Taken on 9th June '07, 18 weeks after we establish

Pic taken on 8th December 2007 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Section 1 -

Who Are We?

We are Laggers Of The Horde. We are a guild from Malaysia and Asia Pacific region established on the release of The Burning Crusade. It is an opportunity for rerolls and comebacks to the World of Warcraft. LoTH is a casual, progresive, long term initiatives to take the challenge of Azeroth. Unlike other casuals, we strive to be progressive at the same time. High end Raids and group PVP will definitely be in our goal list and long term guild strategy. But unlike those hardcore and elite wow players who speak wow gibberish most of the time and do 60 in 2 weeks, we play for the fun of it. We don't do countless hours of raids and force you to commit certain hours of your precious time for it. We believe in enjoying the game at our own pace while helping each other and most importantly, building a friendly and lovely community amongst ourselves. If u feel that u are NOT a wow elites, join our ranks now and be part of stress free environment!

Our guild comprises of Malaysians from various backgrounds. But we welcome everyone including from other countries into our guild. Most of us are working individuals or students who don't have much time to play, but at the same time, we too want to experience in high end instances and end game content. LoTH is here to cater all those needs. Some of us may have been into a hardcore guild, including myself. But we feel that there is too much heat in those type of guild so we decide to be here in LoTH where everything is peace and care.

Who Are You?

Do u feel that you are committing too much of your time on wow but you are still unable to catch up with your guild members? Have u find yourself grinding and farming alone even though you are in a 200 active player guild but just because u are unable to commit 6 hours a day and have insufficient epic equipped, you are drop from the list of raids? Do u have multiple alts cause your main 60 is jobless? Do you feel nausea, having frequent headache and bloated stomach or loss of appetite? if u are one of those, u are what we category as, a person with absolutely ..no life. We have things outside the world of Azeroth. You probably have to feed your family with real food, (not alterac cheese damn it!). u may have a full time job. u only have time for wow 4 hours a week. But you are competing with a bunch of wow fanatics that have time to spend gazillion hours of wow. You force yourself to it, but instead of enjoying the game, you get stress. But you still crave in venturing into the endless burning pit of Molten core and face the fiery dragons in Azeroth. Do not be despair. with LoTH, we can create that dream for you.

Our Target and expectations

Even though we are a casual guild, we are definitely targeting to be in end game instances as well as group PVP. But rather then killing yourself to get there, we take it slowly and enjoy the game. In other words, there will be no rushing in here. You can level to 70 at your own pace. but please don't take 1 year to be level 10. We have short term, mid term and long term goals. While we get there, we have fun! So join us now and be part of our family!


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Section 2 - Guild Development.

So far we have already settle on:

Faction: Horde
Realm Type: Thaurissan, Oceanic PVP.
Guild Characteristics : Long term Project, Casual, Progressive and most importantly, FUN!
Guild type: occasional raid and pvp.
Time Zone: GMT+8
Guild Population. 165 Unique accounts as of 18th March 2007. Majority Malaysian but we welcome very much other countries.
Suggested Raiding times will be between 9.30 to 12. (Not compulsory)
Suitable for: Newbies, experience, Young Adult, Working ppl, pregnant lady, students, wow comebacks, and for those who can't stand the pressure and commitment in hardcore guild.


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Section 4 - FAQ

I have also add an FAQ section for the benefit of our interested members. FAQ will be updated.

Q: If we are starting new, why do we need to wait until the release of BC? We can start rolling a week earlier...to get things started rite??
A - we wanted to make sure that everything when well before we even start on a establishing new guild, such as getting enough interested members. we would not want to start lacking numbers and die off prematurely. As of now, we already have enough interested members, but we would like to take it further just to make sure. we want to avoid rushing into things. beside, the net is lagging because of the quake and its useless to establish a guild and choose a server now. we might as well use that time to get things ready outside the game first.

Q: will this be a horde or alliance guild?
A: horde

Q: what type of realm will it be?
A: PVP. as of now, no server has been chosen. we choose to wait for a new oceanic server setup. we hope that it will be setup in 5 days

Q: We be starting new and fresh?
A: Yes. we will start from scratch. from level 1. bear in mind, this is a long term project and there are a lot of newbies out there. There are also lots of ppl that wants to start over. our goal is not to rush thing and we want to have a casual, progressive and FUN game.

Q: Is this guild suitable for nubs?
A: This guild will be suitable for nubs, experience, half experience, people who dont have much time. people who dont give a damn but hands still itchy to play. working adults, students, those who wants to make comebacks, etc

Q: Who is not suitable for this guild?
A: emosional people, ninjas, whiners, backstabber's, peeping toms, sex maniac, drug addicts, those with criminal records,

Q: This guild sounds hardcore.
A: There are some confusion over the status of this guild being hardcore or casuals several days back. we already have settled those issues by implementing the guild categorization systems. those systems can be viewed somewhere in this thread and section 7.
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Section 5 - Recruitment.

We are still open for recruitments. Please refer section 7 or go to our website at http://www.lothguild.org for further details. To get invites into the guild, please message my officers. Valkyrie, Shaderx, Rantic, Raichu, Babynut, Notendon and Sophiera.

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Section 6 - Guild name!

Please refer to this thread and vote for your guild names!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/397235

START VOTING FOR OUR GUILD NAMES PEEPS!

Latest development 16 Jan 2007. - We finally settle with the name LoTH. (Laggers of The Horde)

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Section 7 - Guild categorization

After receiving numerous suggestions and opinions from the communities and guild members, we have finally decide to put down guild members categorization to help us identify between members. those are

commander (guild master)
2nd in command
deputy commander
officer
elite raiders >85% raid attendance
casual raiders > 65% raid attendance
casual peon <65% raid attendance
overthrown-peon - discipline action.

with these implemented, we hope that we can organize the guild in an efficient way, while maintain our casual/progressive status. Additional to that, we can continue with our open policy of accepting new recruitment and members WITHOUT any restrictions.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Dec 8 2007, 08:20 PM

I would be interested to join in; as I am not total hardcore and only plays occasionally.

I wouldn't mind rolling a new character with you guys. Just keep us updated here

I am playing with some friends from the U.S atm. So, when I'm not on break I wont be able to play much on their timezone.

3 hours a day commitment? + weekend raids? thats consided hardcore dude. my servers Naxx Guilds only do 4-5 hours a day without weekend raids

My current casual guild which was formed a couple of months back from wow newbies, we only raid 6-8 hours a week, already cleared zg/aq and up to geddon in MC with only 28 guys

ngf.guildportal.com

yep. thats why i edited my post and put there , 'playing at your comfortable time will be fine'. sorry for the misinfo. i should not ask for commitment cause i myself is unable to commit more than 2 hours a day. will edit my post up there again.

additional info. the guild wont force the members to commit. it wont kick you out too, unless if it is severe such as name callings, racism, flaming each other, .. that kind of stuff. i was thinking of a progresive guild, but not hardcore.

i will put up with a to do list before we even proceed on establishing a guild. some sort of guidance and things to be done later.

NGF casual? I wouldn't exactly classify them as that either. Seemed to have a hardcore attitude nowadays, but this is speaking from personal opinion.
Former Khaz player here, still always queued there?

Well I don't mind playing for fun as a break from grinding my main to 70 lol

aik, i started a topic like that and nobdy's interested =|. Anyway, if this is a Horde guild, i'll be interested in joining.

axoloke,

nope no more Qs, ever since they had free transfers off Khaz and stopped the transfers into khaz

ngf consided casual ler, hardcore is ppl elike <Time> 6 nites a week to clear naxx.

you used to raid with ngf?

Nope, not raids, met them when they were doing dungeons before going to ZG and onwards. Couple of BG's besides that, and general forum stuff etc. I remember when Ryou began to start his guild, with everyone asking what NGF stood for . Was on Khaz in it's first week until I left recently. Nice to know the queues died down as well, still have some alts there

Can't compare with <Time>, they were hardcore from the start on Khaz....heh. Anyway, good luck ahead, also sorry to OP for going offtopic.

if its a horde guild i might join, coz i wana ply a new blood elf mage, they are too cantik liao

Everyone's going to roll Blood elf. regardless rolling a paladin, a priest or a mage whatever. Horde's going to be overpopulated with blood elves. Then again, the Alliance players who now have full 60s wont have the heart to fully leave their mains and simply roll for a level 1 blood elf and level it all to 70.

So what im thinking is, give it some time and the blood elf population will go down after a month of release.

I would be interested to join in.. Update Us =)

good to see quiet a few already interested. we will have to think of the details such as the characteristics of the guild and so on. i will first come out with the TODO list hopefully by next week and let the parties interested decide on whats best and fun for all of us. seems that already some of you plaaning to play horde. but that has not been finalize yet. just hope that this guild would not be 100% BE

in the mean time, we would like to see more interested members. keep us posted!

Well people WILL want to roll the new races when they re-roll new characters of course. Wait for the population of blood elves to die down when people cbf to level their toons to 60 and furthermore 70. They'll probably be so attached to their main halfway through levelling their lil Blood elf, they'll realise something odd, their main toon thats filled up with tier3 epix and shiet. So if i were you, give it time. maybe about a month after release, the blood elf population might die down.

not that we really want to play as BE, but well, since i got a 60 Alliance already, it would be nice to try and level up a Horde character. Besides, it would be cool if we can join a Oceanic server with more Alliance instead of Horde.

Lets hope you dont get bored during the horde levelling process. Many main chars have rerolled toons on a different faction of a different server. They've ended up going back to their mains.

i know what you mean, but if we are going to start on a new server, a brand new server, then i don' think there's an incentive to go back to my main for the time being. Besides, my main now is guildless now that my guild on Kil'Jaedan has moved to Jubei'thos and I don't think i'm going to splash that much money just to move a character.

mmm Blood Elf Hunter...

I'm on Dark Iron now with a 60 Druid an 14 Hunter (Horde)... Won't mind leveling another character once TBC gets out

But I've had much experience with guild that are social-half-hardcore... they break apart, especially if the leader hasn't the time to commit.

So now I only look for hardcore guilds... I attend raids as best I can, and put out word in advance if I can't.

To play an MMORPG like WoW, either you're a casual guild, or hardcore guild. Try to walk the fine middle line and you'll find yourself faltering...

Just my 2 cents.

Yeh i know whatcha mean, but it's all gonna change with TBC. Main thing is gonna be because of the 25-man raids. Casual players will still be able to get dungeon epix.

touche... though I like being in a serious guild... people do what their supposed to do, and less drama with a capable management team

yeah, a serious guild's bettah. you could get so much guild drama when you're in a semi hardcore guild.

although i say i will roll for a bloodelf, but than i will still get my lvl53 human mage up to 70 1st i guess

sigh, at 1st think this few days can up to lvl60 liao, than can go some raid for item hunt, and farm.mana tau internet....sigh

sad

LF serious end game guild accepting lowbie BE, will grind asap to 60, pst.

interested but have to ask my bro and sis first

This post has been edited by TaufanX: Dec 30 2006, 12:40 AM

count me in

You guys might want to consider this.... http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/391384

Not exactly 'fresh' new guild, but we are reinventing ourselves. As for the server... population is low so no Qs and all LOL

How it reminds me of Mamak Alliance. They are a real hardcore to the very end..

Ok, i'm not trying to take over or anything but i have a few propositions for this new guild.

1) Make it on a new PvP server, Oceanic preferably. (If there are any new servers coming out that is)

2) Make this a Horde guild.

3) I know everyone is anxious to roll a BE but if this guild is going to be successful, we need people to roll the old races as well because as you know, BE have no warrior class which sucks IMO and unless you want hunter's and warlock's pets or a paladin to tank, then some of you guys might have to roll the old races.

If I'm not mistaken MA is not that hardcore. I've got a few friends in there.

dont worry man. we really need input in here from interested members. further reccommendations is

4) kick off with 15 ppl. now already we have about 10 ppl interested. another 5 and we can proceed to the next stage.


5) apart from PVP/PVE or oceanic, i think latency is the most important. we will test it before confirming which server to play on. problem is, now cannot test.

6) guild name! i got a few name already. GenoxidE and HATE. any other idea?

really, actually i started this thread to see how is the response. so far, it has been encouraging. but, not much can be done now because of the crawling net.

guild name, how about Voracious? or Visceral Massacre?

Can someone post the current info for the guild like which realm is the server located, faction, pvp/pve etc thanks

we are actually on planning stage only. no guild, server, realm, pvp or whatsoever. what we are trying to do now is to see if there is enough interested members to restart the whole damn game once BC is released. check my 1st post to get an idea. but roughly, this guild will be

1) casual
2) mix population (malaysia + asia pacific region).
3) gmt+8

others such as faction, realm etc is yet to be decided. we want to plan things carefully first rather then rushing on creating a new guild and a server only to find ourselve die halfway. if there is enough interested members only we will move on to the next stage.

I believe we can settle it being on a PvP server and a Horde guild?

make it a pvp server horde side and i might just transfer my rogue off from malorne.

what level is your rogue? and is Malorne a PvP server? if it isn't, you can't transfer to a PvP server.

sh*t malorne is pvp based. lvl 60 rogue with experience up to fankriss in aq40.

well, since we're all gonna start anew, i think it would be best if you start anew too. otherwise you're gonna be pretty bored?

never bored when u get gnomes to pick off anywhere in the server

hmm I might consider...if I have time I might roll a bloodelf and join forces...but i'll probably be a late comer...so I will roll what class we need more than.

Yea, count me in

I've got some toons running on Aman Thul now but an all local guild would be fun. Will also be willing to roll any class we need without problems cept Hunter cos i'm sick of those, lol

I'll tell you what class will be needed. Any class that is not available to the blood elves. Which in tern means warrior, shaman, druid. If you roll a druid i could prolly see a lot of loot going to you

This post has been edited by MarXzz: Jan 5 2007, 12:02 PM

Sooo, is this guild gonna be horde? or pansy alliance?

i think i have a 90% feeling that we can settle for a PVP server and a horde guild. Now is the time to lookout for a realm (the latest). since connection is still pretty slow, its hard for me to test. i was on streamyx using 124.82 IP yesterday and getting like 1200ms on oceanic server. are u guys willing to wait for another 2 weeks or so until we can finally decide on a server? or at least until the net is ok again. besides, BC should be realease about that time. or is there anyone out there willing to test out the latest realm available? preferably the very latest realm

ps: got another person interested pm yesterday, i guess we already pass the target 15 interested members to kick off. hope there is more.

i would like to play and join forces. . .
but im hell confused right now . . .
there's two WoW cd . . .
which one should i buy? -.-"
do I really need the BC?

Which is the newest oceanic realm that is PvP or w/e ?

"i would like to play and join forces. . .
but im hell confused right now . . .
there's two WoW cd . . .
which one should i buy? -.-"
do I really need the BC?"

You will need expansion pack in like 2 weeks... I suggest you get both.

that means if I refused to get BC = I cant play anymore in 2 weeks time? (assumed that i've bought the starter pack)

This post has been edited by Charkoteow: Jan 5 2007, 12:52 PM

You can but no access to new races and areas and cannot get past 70. You can still use the normal things that are accessible by WoW alone.

Antonidas PvE Pacific Emberstorm
Nazgrel PVE Eastern Emberstorm
Nordrassil PVE Pacific Emberstorm
Rivendare PVP Pacific Emberstorm
Shandris PVE Eastern Emberstorm
Tortheldrin PVP Eastern Emberstorm

This are the latest realms that WOW has now. But as you see, they're not Oceanic. So i suggest we wait until the release of TBC.

And besides, even oceanic connection is just too slow to even play for me

one thing you have to understand, Oceanic server doesn't mean that the server is based in Oceania. It just means that the server follows the Oceanic time that is all. Oceanic servers are still based in the US. that's why latency dont make no difference whether you play in Pacific or eastern or central servers.

i can only found US and EU version . . (at pcgame.com.my)
where's the ocenian?

err no, US version and EU version is different. US version means you can only play on US servers while EU version means you can only play on European servers. Get the US version, that's what all of us got anyway.

thx guyz for the info . .
i'll think twice be4 buying since it still lagging rite? damn cabels

well, the cables are gonna be repaired so i suggest you buy them first. It's about RM99 for the US version so i advise you to get it it now.

Order them 1st. Dont just wait till release date and buy.

You will probably end up like those poor guys who wanted to buy PS3 and found out the stock is limited.

preordered mine since may 2006. gotta love WoW kakis at CompuZone.

if i bump into a blood elves, or other things that comes from BC . .
what will happened? will i get errors? (assumed that i dont have BC)

No, you wont have erorrs, w/o the burning crusade thing, all you cant do is roll the new races and acces the new areas. Also, your max level is capped at 60. You'll be able to talk to a blood elf or w/e normally.

Which would mean you dont have to rush to get tbc yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, you can always wait till ur level 60 then get tbc to continue?

There is a patch for those without TBC and it is currently downloading via Blizzard background downloader.

However with the current connection, i doubt the patch will be complete before TBC release >_<

got a link for the patch notes or something?

ok count me in on the project..willing to play any toons except rogue/hunter on any factions (alliance preferred cos i never played one b4 and im dieing to enter IF =p ) however will lvl main to 70 first b4 focussing on alt..keep us posted

this project looks promising

wait. NEVER ENTERED IRONFORGE? .... delete your rogue please (if you have one assuming). it's a rite of ascension for every rogue to go into IF when u hit 60. ganking lowbies at gryphons = priceless.

Prefered on PVP, Horde Guild.

Not yet started, now in private server learning. Going to get one when Expansion is out. By the way, you guys know how to upgrade from guess pass user to official user? Is it i pay 60 for the next month will get myself subscribed? or I need to pay another RM100++ ?

normally, if you buy the game card, its for 2 months so you'll have to pay about RM100++. Go to The Software Boutique to get the card for RM105. Unless you know of a cheaper price to get the card for.

authentication key = starter pack. therefore from guest pass u still need to get the starter with is about RM169-189 last time checked.

Starters prices have crashed since november.. RM100 is the market price in M'sia now.

It is better we don't join Oceanic server, i don't think we want to log in the server and queue, you see most Asians are joining the Oceanic server, so i think we should go for US server, Eastern or Western, i don't know, the server i join, when i played, you hardly see anyone around because it is not their peak hour.

Just my 2c lar.

If you are interested in end raiding, you should join oceanic servers regardless of the queue/lag. Recruitment pool is very important.

Aggroboy is right

indeed, and not many Malaysians are going to join new US servers if there are any. So i suggest we join an Oceaninc PvP server. I'm not trying to discriminate or what but i hope we get Malaysians in this guild mostly. Singaporeans too.

Go JT or Thaurisaan...as far as i know...thaurisaan is a quiet realm..abt 2-3 months old ni...

If this guild takes off , what would be the general raiding time may i ask ? I'm pretty sick of waking up at 9 am to kill dragons , lol.

But i dont think i have the time to level 1-70..

since most of us here i think are already working, i would say that raiding times would start at night instead of morning. About say, 9:30 PM ?

agreed. 9-9.30 would be nice. raids end no later 12-1 AM.

Post details of server and faction if this happens . Most of us who are doing new content may not go full time leveling a toon from scratch. But a long term project , why not. Eventually who knows maybe full time when we have numbers . Is it possible to host vent from over here ?

This post has been edited by anandv: Jan 7 2007, 01:20 PM

This is sounding sweet...great idea if u ask me.

If you guys do get around to setting this up, i'll rent out a Vent server for the guild.

Tropicano

Yeah my main is lvl 60 rogue but i never enterd IF...been to SW b4 though...and tht also i got a tough time getting out...

This post has been edited by Insyderz: Jan 7 2007, 03:57 PM

I have thought of some new guild names. they are Malice Mizer and Lunacy. Tell me what you think about them.

^ Isn't that names of J-pop/rock groups....

This post has been edited by Fields: Jan 7 2007, 05:57 PM

hell yehs they are. but they sound awesome, especially in conjuncture with the BE's, who are full of malice and misery and a tinge of lunacy as well.

This post has been edited by Inoran: Jan 7 2007, 06:34 PM

lol that made me crack up when u referred it to the BEs.

BTW i'm too lazy to go back and check the other pages so is this guild going to be Horde or Alliance?

Tropicano

This post has been edited by Tropicano: Jan 7 2007, 06:46 PM

Horde mostly

FOR TEH HORDE! XOXOXO!!!ONEONEONE!!!1111!@!!!!

/bump bump

make it "MALAYSIA" la haha

no ... just .. NO.

yeah make it MALAYSIA.

What are the chances of enough people here heading towards a single server? Because I'm quite interested to play.

including your post, i think we exceed more than the 15 people initially needed to start the guild.

Same as before like last time i said.. when start,, please Inform us...
Cannot wait to be group with u all ...

Horde ahhhh.... good lor.. then ii be good defender... Hahahaa

we will make poll and decide for guild name. i think that can be decided once we get a server. for now, we can reccommend a few guild names. but really, i like guild name which is short and has a kick! like JAWS, MAGGOTS, WOLVES or KICKBUTT .until then, we are still on a lookout for a server. still cannnot test now. the net is so sucky.

i was hoping for something like this

75% malaysian.
15% singapore, korea, taiwan, japan
15% australia, NZ.

im not a fan of 100% malaysian.i believe that balance is important. it will still be a malaysian guild, with some adds from other countries. but this will also be decided by interested parties. if majority once a 95% malaysian guild, so be it.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 10 2007, 07:27 PM

Here's a guild name for you:

< Shush! I'm guarding the cave>

Malice Mizer can? sounds like it would be a very good guild name leh.

how's this for a guild name

<Nightstalkers>
<Casuals>
<Opens with Ambush>
<Mamak Gang>


This post has been edited by nocturnus: Jan 10 2007, 08:35 PM

<Gang Bang> lg bes

My suggestion

<Hey kid! Get in the van>

too obvious, how about MAS.

So do we plan to start fresh from lv1 or transfer our own toon to this server, man, i don't have any character in any pvp server.

This post has been edited by mengdez: Jan 10 2007, 11:19 PM

start from fresh

which server are we talkinmg about now? i would be interested though

currently we dont know yet but we hope to have it on a new, i repeat, brand new oceanic PvP server which hopefully will come out when TBC is released.

i've been playing on the european server with hardly any malaysian or gmt 8+ contacts. so the timezone was really a setback.

i think the release of BC will give a me a chance to restart the game along with many others, and finally reach end-game dungeons and raids, without slogging through the ungodly hours!

i'll join you guys once i get my copy of US WOW:BC

This post has been edited by melfariza: Jan 11 2007, 10:45 PM