Ladies (if there are any =|) and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls. After much deliberation and planning, we can attempt to start the guild now although the only problem now would be the server we are planning to play on. I will elaborate on that further but for now, I would like to list down the roster of this new guild which would be named Laggers Of The Horde or LotH for short. Members are as follows:

nitrofang -- will be bringing in 3 or 4 with me. Tauren Druid
inoran - BE lock or priest
HeLiX - BE Rogue
jarofclay -
Pachu - Tauren Shaman
yc_83 BE/UD mage
chow_vincevince
samlee860407 - BE mage
Rel Centurica
TriggerG - UD or BE or Orc Rogue
alanelf
lilzany - BE Paladin or UD Priest
patalim - will roll any class except hunter
Insyderz - UD /BE lock or pally
Tropicano - BE Paladin
melfariza
quetwei - UD mage.
Mrsinner - BE Hunter
valzenhar - Tauren Druid.
AurorA|CS - Tauren warrior or BE pally
AurorA|CS friend - Mage
Delirium - Tauren Warrior or an Undead Warlock.
TaufanX + 3 family members - All hunters (race unknown)
MarXzz and another friend - BE priest and BE mage.
Cyruste - Orc Shaman.
Fields - Warrior. race undecided.
mengdez - BE paladin (FEMALE!)
iekyiek - Troll Rogue
ShaderX - Tauren Shaman
[gs]JackMin - priest
julia88 - BE priest or UD mage/warlock.
hikashi/vinix - UD mage
Emperor Tau - lock or mage, if too many lock/mage, tauren shaman.
Emperor Tau's Friends (dtjt24) - Troll Warrior/BE Priest
Maverick_Neutron - BE Hunter
eternallove - BE Pally, Tauren Druid or Warrior (race unsure)
The Aiyum Crew and friend - BE/BE (Class unsure)
UltramanToron - BE Hunter
wkevin-
Alastorm - by end of month only confirm
ben3003 - Orc Warrior
wsmin - BE Paladin/Mage/Priest
AaronHo - BE Rogue
X3noFr3aK - BE Priest
Gladys - BE Mage
seen - unsure
elendur - BE Mage or Tauren Druid
chaichai - BE Paladin
Mirage2668 -
onceinawhile - BE Hunter
Ethan1981 - BE Lock
stefanong - BE paladin or Troll/UD/BE Rogue
Kusa - Troll Warrior
yewyong - Warrior (race unknown)
melfrazia - BE Mage
lexasp - BE (class unknown)
UncaJon - BE Paladin
syazree - BE Paladin
awakener1986 - Rogue (race unknown)
Wanli123 -
deodorant - BE Rogue

Ok here are the list of people so far that are confirmed to be joining. Those that have not listed down your race and class, pls do so in this thread so i can update them. And if i have left out anybody, pls do not hesitate to put your name in and be RECOGNIZED.

Now on to the server we are rolling in. Firstly, as i have said, Blizzard has released several new servers after launch day. And so i suggest to all of you once again, there is hope for a new Oceanic PvP realm. Though these new launch servers do not include any Oceanic realms so far, i suggest we wait until next Tuesday's maintainence is over then only decide. If really there isn't any, then I say we roll on Thaurissan. Why? Though there are lvl 60's and above there already, should a new Oceanic PvP realm be opened up for transfers, we will be included in the transfers so that's my reason. Now i ask you all to be patient and wait and see because of several reasons i hope you all will agree with me

1) Thaurissan has been around for 1-2 months, it's a transfer server so there'll be tonnes of 60's and above around.
2) Economy is going to suffer due to the abundance of 60's.
3) Since the game has just been released, imagine the lag. Even some of us who have tried it on release day have been reporting unbearable lag even in starting areas of the Draenei and BE.
4) If Thaurissan doesn't suit us at all, it's going to ruin the whole "guild" thing we have painstakingly took to set up.
5) Another few more days isn't gonna hurt considering we have waited for over a month from their initial release period.

This is if we straight go to Thaurissan. However if we choose other servers other than Oceanic, the problems we could face are

1) Recruitment of Asians are going to be much harder in US realms.
2) If you choose PvE, it's going to dull our senses alot more and trust me, PvP is the way to go.
3) Since time zones are different, should we choose a US realm, if we have US members, they'll be sleeping while we attempt to raid. That's not going to work out at all =|.

That is it so far. So once again, those who have not listed their class and race pls do so and also if i missed out on anyone, pls list your name so i can add it to the list. Thank you all for being a wonderful audience.

This post has been edited by Inoran: Jan 22 2007, 01:55 PM

I somehow dont forsee an oceanic pvp server coming out anytime soon.

question.

if thaurissan is already a transfer server which is 1-2 month old, will bliz create another oceanic pvp transfer server for free?

just to update, i am bringing in 2 friend who will be playing as BE Pally and BE Priest, they are sharing the same computer so only one may logon at any given time.

count me in, orc warrior.

they might. They have released a few new servers which are for free transfers as well. Check the official forum nitrofang Sir. and MarxXz, we will wait and see.

Pls change my roll to BE warlock now. and also add my following BE gang,
Mrtarpau - Paladin
EK - Rogue
BabyCammie - Warlock
Marcus - Hunter
KeithWong - Just got the game today
Bernard - Same

7 of us are all currently lvling BE toon in Thaurissan and most probrably will be staying here even if the guild not planning to come. But i do hope u guys will be here as we really need a home man. We wil be waitin for u guys to decide to join the server, if not then we'll try to find a local guild here. Hope 2 see u all soon. Tis the 2nd day ive play, and so far ping avg frm 380-500 max for me and i see alot of singaporeans in server too.

We have to take in account for the lag with streamyx nowadays. If you really want a pvp server ask yourself this question.

1) Guild is for newbies. Alot of them have no or little experience in playing wow. Might not be you or me but there will be alot of em.
2) Streamyx 1 - 2 sec delay, Can you live with it?
3) Theres a bg if you wanna pvp vs alliance anyway. Arena is out in BC so open land pvping is obsolete
4) Lastly, Do you think you have the guts to go pvp while you're not powerleveling like the power levelers we see in new servers. 10 days = lv 60

1) Guild is not really for newbies. So many of us here are either seasoned raiders or people who have at least played till level 50 and above. Not to mention that most of us here are in PvP servers.

2) I don't get your point. StreamyX has and will always give us lag so what's this point for? Elaborate more for me please?

3) BG's are there yeah but still, with the constant complain of queue's in BG, anybody will not be satisfied with the long wait times. Also, BG's tend to be in groups, which isn't really effective for honing your PvP skills.

4) I have the guts to go PvP while i'm not powerleveling. Hell, i was in Kil'Jaedan when i first started WOW. And that's a PvP server.

hey i thought this was supposed to be a fun casual guild .. no need to get all serious now peeps haha.

btw some of us are seasoned raiders fyi

question

i was just thinking if there is any1 out there wif experience as a MT ?

Dude. Read. This guild is for new players newbies and all. You can doublecheck that with nitro.

SO please be considerate for the others.

Most of us played thru level 50. Most is a good word. It can be one or more than one.

BG lines are long. Thats why there the "PVP Arena" Introduced to feed you "PvP Junkies" Out there.

And finnaly streamyx is lagging badly right now. Maybe not in your area. But if you pay attention to what others people says more you will understand everyone is lagging like crap over here and there.

This post has been edited by ShaderX: Jan 17 2007, 08:33 PM

[/quote]We are the LoTH. We are currently on a verge of establishing a guild for malaysian and asia pacific region prior on the release of burning crusade. As i have mentioned above, this will be your primary opportunity for rerolls and comebacks. LoTH is a casual, progresive, long term initiatives to take the challenge of Azeroth. How casual are we you may ask? Let me just inform you that unlike other casuals, we strive to be progresive at the same time. High end Raids, PVP will definitely be in our goal list and guild long term strategy. But unlike those hardcore and elite wow players who speak wow giberish most of the time and do 60 in 2 weeks, we play for the fun of it. We dont do countless hours of raids and force you to commit certain hours of your precious time for it. We believe in enjoying the game at our own pace while helping each other and most importantly, building a friendly and lovely community amongts oursleves. If u feel that u are NOT a wow elites, join our ranks now and be part of stress free environment!

Our guild comprises of Malaysians from various backgrounds. But we welcome everyone including from other countries into our guild. Most of us are working individuals, students, who dont have much time to play wow, but atthe same time, we too want to be involve in high end raids, etc. LoTH is here to cater all those needs. Some of us may have been into a hardcore guild, including myself. But we feel that there is too much heat in those type of guild so we decide to be here in LoTH where everything is peace and care.

Who Are You?

Do u feel that you are committing too much of your time to wow but is still unable to catch up with your guild members? Have u find yourself grinding and farming alone even though you are in a 200 active player guild but just because u are unable to commit 6 hours a day and have insufficient epic equiped, you are drop from the list of raids? Do u have multiple alts cause your main 60 is jobless? Do you feel nausea, frequent headache, or loss of appetite? if u are one of those, u are what we category as, the person with absolutely ..no life. We have things outside the world of Azeroth. You probably have to feed your family with real food, (not alterac cheese damn it!). u may have a full time job. u only have time for wow 4 hours a week. But you are competing with a bunch of wow fanatics that have time to spend gazillion hours of wow. You force yourself to it, but instead of enjoying the game, you get stress. But you still crave in venturing into the endless burning pit of Molten core and face the fiery dragons in Azeroth. Do not be despair. with LoTH, we can create that dream for you.

Our Target and expectations

Even though we are a casual guild, we are definitly targeting to be in end game instances as well as group PVP. But rather then killing yourself to get there, we take it slowly and enjoy the game. In other words, there will be no rushing in here. You can level to 60 at your own pace. we will not kick you out. We have short term, mid term and long term goals. While we get there, we have fun![/quote]

This is what Sir nitrofang said. And most of us, if not all, want a PvP server. So am i the only guy being inconsiderate here? And if there are newbies as well, no problem, we will help them get there. Ganking problems, we will definitely help. And judging from most of the feedback, and not 1 or 2, or slightly more but probably about 15 over or more people, they have all raided Onyxia at the very least and have participated in AV, WSG and AB. And what makes you think I'm not paying attention to what people are posting about? in fact, i for one am telling everybody to be patient and wait for next week's weekly WOW Server maintainence to decide on a server to roll on, and the lag we are experiencing is one of the reasons why I suggested such. But it seems to me that most of you are already itching to start the guild going already, not taking most of these facts into consideration as i have mentioned. I am not blaming you, I will not reprimand you nor smite you for I too am as impatient as all of you. I can't even sleep at night damn it because of this hahaha. So you see, if we co-ordinate and plan properly, we may even last for who knows, until the next expansion? If we rush things now, we might last for a month or so only if everything isn't going as planned. So i plead with you all, be patient.

count me in, will be rolling either BE priest, mage or pally

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Today, 06:24 PM..

Before that it was this guild is for new players, newbies, or a chance to start over in a new realm.

Talk about fast changes geezs

relax peeps. we are trying our best here to satisfy everyone. to answer shaderx questions, this guild has not change much, although i do admit certain amendments have been made to suit the situation. however, the guild will still cater for newbies, rerolls, working individuals, students, and ppl who wants to make comebacks. that is our target group. off course, during the process, there will be influx of seasoned raiders too. but the guild should remain suitable for the other mentioned groups as well. this should not be a problem, because we are going to help each other, rite? so dont worry, lets discuss this healthily, and remember, have fun!

on another note, we are gonna kick off the guild on 24 January 2007, immediately after next tuesday maintenance. If no new oceanic PVP server announce, there is a 63.76% chance that we gonna role in thaurissan.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 17 2007, 11:03 PM

ya... there will be experienced ppl helping each other.. so don need to worry much about it. In fact i am just having a lvl30 dwarven warrior, i am interested in this becos i am intended for pvp server and most importantly, a malaysia guild, cheers!

lol still i say this guild is 50% newbies 50% experienced

Just Be Malaysia Guild Help play together.
As I can say Im newbie play WOW..
But Im can say Im full o experienced,, becoz when the game start last last year..,, i read most magazine and the guide. ( even this forum read everyday..) .. Becoz really really wan to play...
Now my pc can support this game and got money to play.. Can start play...
=) Stay fun.. Stay Happy,,, See all in 24 Jan....

I i say anythings wrong,, sorry...

that will be better as it will mean more balance. i can work with both sides. so to newbies, please dont be shy to join us. we will help u. if u need need financial aid, gold, u can ask from shaderx or inoran.