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LoTH - Laggers Of The Horde (http://www.lothguild.org)
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Pic taken on 31st January '07, 2 weeks after we establish

Pic Taken on 9th June '07, 18 weeks after we establish

Pic taken on 8th December 2007 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

Section 1 -

Who Are We?

We are Laggers Of The Horde. We are a guild from Malaysia and Asia Pacific region established on the release of The Burning Crusade. It is an opportunity for rerolls and comebacks to the World of Warcraft. LoTH is a casual, progresive, long term initiatives to take the challenge of Azeroth. Unlike other casuals, we strive to be progressive at the same time. High end Raids and group PVP will definitely be in our goal list and long term guild strategy. But unlike those hardcore and elite wow players who speak wow gibberish most of the time and do 60 in 2 weeks, we play for the fun of it. We don't do countless hours of raids and force you to commit certain hours of your precious time for it. We believe in enjoying the game at our own pace while helping each other and most importantly, building a friendly and lovely community amongst ourselves. If u feel that u are NOT a wow elites, join our ranks now and be part of stress free environment!

Our guild comprises of Malaysians from various backgrounds. But we welcome everyone including from other countries into our guild. Most of us are working individuals or students who don't have much time to play, but at the same time, we too want to experience in high end instances and end game content. LoTH is here to cater all those needs. Some of us may have been into a hardcore guild, including myself. But we feel that there is too much heat in those type of guild so we decide to be here in LoTH where everything is peace and care.

Who Are You?

Do u feel that you are committing too much of your time on wow but you are still unable to catch up with your guild members? Have u find yourself grinding and farming alone even though you are in a 200 active player guild but just because u are unable to commit 6 hours a day and have insufficient epic equipped, you are drop from the list of raids? Do u have multiple alts cause your main 60 is jobless? Do you feel nausea, having frequent headache and bloated stomach or loss of appetite? if u are one of those, u are what we category as, a person with absolutely ..no life. We have things outside the world of Azeroth. You probably have to feed your family with real food, (not alterac cheese damn it!). u may have a full time job. u only have time for wow 4 hours a week. But you are competing with a bunch of wow fanatics that have time to spend gazillion hours of wow. You force yourself to it, but instead of enjoying the game, you get stress. But you still crave in venturing into the endless burning pit of Molten core and face the fiery dragons in Azeroth. Do not be despair. with LoTH, we can create that dream for you.

Our Target and expectations

Even though we are a casual guild, we are definitely targeting to be in end game instances as well as group PVP. But rather then killing yourself to get there, we take it slowly and enjoy the game. In other words, there will be no rushing in here. You can level to 70 at your own pace. but please don't take 1 year to be level 10. We have short term, mid term and long term goals. While we get there, we have fun! So join us now and be part of our family!


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Section 2 - Guild Development.

So far we have already settle on:

Faction: Horde
Realm Type: Thaurissan, Oceanic PVP.
Guild Characteristics : Long term Project, Casual, Progressive and most importantly, FUN!
Guild type: occasional raid and pvp.
Time Zone: GMT+8
Guild Population. 165 Unique accounts as of 18th March 2007. Majority Malaysian but we welcome very much other countries.
Suggested Raiding times will be between 9.30 to 12. (Not compulsory)
Suitable for: Newbies, experience, Young Adult, Working ppl, pregnant lady, students, wow comebacks, and for those who can't stand the pressure and commitment in hardcore guild.


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Section 4 - FAQ

I have also add an FAQ section for the benefit of our interested members. FAQ will be updated.

Q: If we are starting new, why do we need to wait until the release of BC? We can start rolling a week earlier...to get things started rite??
A - we wanted to make sure that everything when well before we even start on a establishing new guild, such as getting enough interested members. we would not want to start lacking numbers and die off prematurely. As of now, we already have enough interested members, but we would like to take it further just to make sure. we want to avoid rushing into things. beside, the net is lagging because of the quake and its useless to establish a guild and choose a server now. we might as well use that time to get things ready outside the game first.

Q: will this be a horde or alliance guild?
A: horde

Q: what type of realm will it be?
A: PVP. as of now, no server has been chosen. we choose to wait for a new oceanic server setup. we hope that it will be setup in 5 days

Q: We be starting new and fresh?
A: Yes. we will start from scratch. from level 1. bear in mind, this is a long term project and there are a lot of newbies out there. There are also lots of ppl that wants to start over. our goal is not to rush thing and we want to have a casual, progressive and FUN game.

Q: Is this guild suitable for nubs?
A: This guild will be suitable for nubs, experience, half experience, people who dont have much time. people who dont give a damn but hands still itchy to play. working adults, students, those who wants to make comebacks, etc

Q: Who is not suitable for this guild?
A: emosional people, ninjas, whiners, backstabber's, peeping toms, sex maniac, drug addicts, those with criminal records,

Q: This guild sounds hardcore.
A: There are some confusion over the status of this guild being hardcore or casuals several days back. we already have settled those issues by implementing the guild categorization systems. those systems can be viewed somewhere in this thread and section 7.
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Section 5 - Recruitment.

We are still open for recruitments. Please refer section 7 or go to our website at http://www.lothguild.org for further details. To get invites into the guild, please message my officers. Valkyrie, Shaderx, Rantic, Raichu, Babynut, Notendon and Sophiera.

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Section 6 - Guild name!

Please refer to this thread and vote for your guild names!

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/397235

START VOTING FOR OUR GUILD NAMES PEEPS!

Latest development 16 Jan 2007. - We finally settle with the name LoTH. (Laggers of The Horde)

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Section 7 - Guild categorization

After receiving numerous suggestions and opinions from the communities and guild members, we have finally decide to put down guild members categorization to help us identify between members. those are

commander (guild master)
2nd in command
deputy commander
officer
elite raiders >85% raid attendance
casual raiders > 65% raid attendance
casual peon <65% raid attendance
overthrown-peon - discipline action.

with these implemented, we hope that we can organize the guild in an efficient way, while maintain our casual/progressive status. Additional to that, we can continue with our open policy of accepting new recruitment and members WITHOUT any restrictions.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Dec 8 2007, 08:20 PM

yep. thats why i edited my post and put there , 'playing at your comfortable time will be fine'. sorry for the misinfo. i should not ask for commitment cause i myself is unable to commit more than 2 hours a day. will edit my post up there again.

additional info. the guild wont force the members to commit. it wont kick you out too, unless if it is severe such as name callings, racism, flaming each other, .. that kind of stuff. i was thinking of a progresive guild, but not hardcore.

i will put up with a to do list before we even proceed on establishing a guild. some sort of guidance and things to be done later.

good to see quiet a few already interested. we will have to think of the details such as the characteristics of the guild and so on. i will first come out with the TODO list hopefully by next week and let the parties interested decide on whats best and fun for all of us. seems that already some of you plaaning to play horde. but that has not been finalize yet. just hope that this guild would not be 100% BE

in the mean time, we would like to see more interested members. keep us posted!

dont worry man. we really need input in here from interested members. further reccommendations is

4) kick off with 15 ppl. now already we have about 10 ppl interested. another 5 and we can proceed to the next stage.


5) apart from PVP/PVE or oceanic, i think latency is the most important. we will test it before confirming which server to play on. problem is, now cannot test.

6) guild name! i got a few name already. GenoxidE and HATE. any other idea?

really, actually i started this thread to see how is the response. so far, it has been encouraging. but, not much can be done now because of the crawling net.

we are actually on planning stage only. no guild, server, realm, pvp or whatsoever. what we are trying to do now is to see if there is enough interested members to restart the whole damn game once BC is released. check my 1st post to get an idea. but roughly, this guild will be

1) casual
2) mix population (malaysia + asia pacific region).
3) gmt+8

others such as faction, realm etc is yet to be decided. we want to plan things carefully first rather then rushing on creating a new guild and a server only to find ourselve die halfway. if there is enough interested members only we will move on to the next stage.

i think i have a 90% feeling that we can settle for a PVP server and a horde guild. Now is the time to lookout for a realm (the latest). since connection is still pretty slow, its hard for me to test. i was on streamyx using 124.82 IP yesterday and getting like 1200ms on oceanic server. are u guys willing to wait for another 2 weeks or so until we can finally decide on a server? or at least until the net is ok again. besides, BC should be realease about that time. or is there anyone out there willing to test out the latest realm available? preferably the very latest realm

ps: got another person interested pm yesterday, i guess we already pass the target 15 interested members to kick off. hope there is more.

we will make poll and decide for guild name. i think that can be decided once we get a server. for now, we can reccommend a few guild names. but really, i like guild name which is short and has a kick! like JAWS, MAGGOTS, WOLVES or KICKBUTT .until then, we are still on a lookout for a server. still cannnot test now. the net is so sucky.

i was hoping for something like this

75% malaysian.
15% singapore, korea, taiwan, japan
15% australia, NZ.

im not a fan of 100% malaysian.i believe that balance is important. it will still be a malaysian guild, with some adds from other countries. but this will also be decided by interested parties. if majority once a 95% malaysian guild, so be it.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 10 2007, 07:27 PM

i be rolling as orc hunter or tauran druid. ahhh, 4 days away, better pray for a new oceanic server soonnnnnnnn. inoran, u confident ahh got new oceaanic server in 2 weeks time? looks like everybody so excited already, minus the sucky net.

[EDITED] - This page is now at the first page. thank you.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 15 2007, 10:16 AM

I will be honored IF chosen by guild members to be the the guild leader, but i have to politely turn it down reason being i feel that even this is a casual guild, but i still feel that leaders should be someone who have time to be in the game most. i will be mostly outstation most of the time due to work and will be logging in only perhaps 4 to 7 hours a week. apart from that, leaders should be experience enough to lead. i am lacking in experience and have little end game and raid experience. for the guild to survive, it is best to have an experience leader. i will be happy in being the guild support though. anyway, i am aware that this is an important topic to discuss which is guild leadership. i suggest we wait to a certain date and until then we will look for possible talented leaders. for the time being, i am happy to be as a playmaker.

update. from now on, new update will be edited on my first post.

Point taken mengdez. i feel u too dude. we will put it up as reminder. Points are.

1) no politics.
2) community driven. i.e dont get separated in splinter groups.

i have tried thaurisaan just several minutes ago. i must say it is pretty fast even on my puny streamyx connection. getting like 300ms on 60.50 IP. would like others to try it first and see how it feel on your connection. just wondering how old already is this server cause a quick /who found that a bunch of 60s already at badlands. transfer possibly? why is it that i did not see any new realms on wow news regarding thaurisaan? when is it setup?

on a new oceanic server when TBC is released, i have check wow forums and this is the FAQ section on what blizzard personnel have to say regarding new realms for TBC.

Q: Will new realms be opened when the expansion is released?

A: We are planning to open new realms with the release of The Burning Crusade, but we do not have any specifics to share at this time.

in other words. we are not sure if new oceanic is going to be setup soon.

oh yes. since so many of u are going BE, what will u guys be rolling as if we decide to go for thaurisaan? or perhaps we are thinking of getting prepared first?
[EDITED] - oh nevermind. i just remember that TBC is going to be released in 3 days and perhaps the same week in malaysia...

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 13 2007, 04:20 PM

erm maybe we could wait just until this monday to get everyone feedback regarding thaurisaan server? or perhaps just wait 1 or 2 days after tbc is released. i know most of us tangan gatal already to play.

apart from that, we need GUILD NAMES and mottooo. keep it coming peeps!

agree. 3 days after TBC will be nice. 5 days better. longer then a week enthusiasm will die. but still need contingency plan. what if there is no new oceanic server? i been thinking what some of the members been saying. yes, thaurisaan is a transfer server. that would be not good for us who start fresh in there. i think we should consider of a US PVP realm, JUST IN CASE there is no new oceanic server.

another thing, should we start a poll soon for a guild name? im not sure how this guild setup work, never done it before.

(edited) - aiyak! sorry! dont notice that there is a similar topic for this. ignore this one!

Please refer to this thread, thanx!
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/397235


START VOTING FOR OUR GUILD NAME PEEPS!


This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 14 2007, 12:01 PM

Bad news guys. there will be NO new oceanic PVP server launch when burning crusade is released. Instead blizzard announce as follows:-

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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67406754&sid=1&pageNo=1

* 0. New Launch Realms 1/16 | 01/15/2007 02:25:11 AM UTC

We'll be launching the following six realms with the release of The Burning Crusade expansion on January 16, at 12:01 AM EST.

Nagrand - PvE, Oceanic - Bloodlust battlegroup
Velen - PvE, Pacific
Coilfang - PvP, Pacific
Terokkar - PvE, Central
Exodar - PvE, Eastern
Auchindoun - PvP, Eastern

The majority of these realms will be placed in a new battlegroup, the name of which has yet to be announced. These are new non-transfer realms and as such the Gates of Ahn'Qiraj will be closed and they will not be open to character transfers for six months.
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There are a lot of protest in there because there is no Oceanic PVP. they even came out a petition in protest.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...=67247345&sid=1

however, life must go on. I know most of you wanted a PVP server regardless it is oceanic or Pacific. Off course, oceanic is better, but looks like we have to drop for that option. I leave it to you guys to choose. as for me, i dont really mind if it is a US server, as long as the latency is 'acceptable' and it is block transfer. Our option now is left to

Velen - PvE, Pacific
Coilfang - PvP, Pacific
Auchindoun - PvP, Eastern.

anyway, whats the difference between pacific and eastern?

i dont think that will be the case. This is TBC. this is the time people reroll and make comebacks. When bliz anounce that there will be no oceanic PVP, i am confident that most new players will opt for US PVP realm, INCLUDING our kind. besides, I dont think we have problems of getting members from asia since we are an organize guild, where we can look for members in a flexible means. Our concern should be more focus on getting malaysian + asean participant in OUR guild rather then general population of a realm. If we have 60 malaysian members and 20 asean members + 10 aus/nz, it aint matter anymore if the rest of the population is americans. besides, i feel it is easier to get malaysian + asean participant in our guild when we are in a US server. why? because chances are we are going to be the only asean guild in that server.

as for waiting 3 to days that u mention, i suggest u look into what blizz official have to say further regarding the new realms.

We're aware there are specific requests for realm types and time zones; however for the launch we want to ensure that we have the most popular realm types covered as our goal is to ensure population dispersal. We'll be attempting to hit other time zones and realm types in the near future.

what does near future means? i doubt it means 3 to 5 days. but it all still depends on how long interested members in this guild is willing to wait. everybody morale is so very tinggi now.

no problem dude. we are fun and casual guild. you can play at your own confortable time. but off course we really be happy if u can join us most of the time.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 15 2007, 03:54 PM

alright inoran. lets wait for just a little bit longer. say, 5 days maximum after TBC? i was suggetsing 2 weeks after TBC but some members fear enthusiam die. 5 days is nice. by then the net should be fully restered (20 Jan).

hmm really, i also cannot decide. lets hear it from other members.

guys, what do u think. pick a server prior to TBC launch which is 16 Jan 2007? servers are :-

1) Nagrand - PvE, Oceanic - Bloodlust battlegroup
Velen - PvE, Pacific
Coilfang - PvP, Pacific
Terokkar - PvE, Central
Exodar - PvE, Eastern
Auchindoun - PvP, Eastern

2) OR wait for 5 days after TBC is release and hope that oceanic PVP will be launhch, or

3) OR wait 2 weeks and hope oceanic PVP is launch.

tropicano, what about a poll for this?

further info on new realm when TBC is released can be viewed here.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.h...&sid=1&pageNo=1
feedback pls. thank you.

This post has been edited by nitrofang: Jan 15 2007, 05:11 PM

casual progresive. suitable for newbies, working adult, students, who dont have much time to play, and for those who are sick in a hardcore guild.

hmm. i can foresee that we gonna roll in thaurissan. we gonna get our name for our guild probably tonight. i will setup all the necassary things first such as booking domain name, setup guild forum, setup website, etc. ne1 here can sponsor vent server?