QUOTE(nitrofang @ Feb 8 2007, 11:27 PM)
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when we said casual AND progressive, we meant that this guild is taking time to level at their own pace while progressing toward the objective (i.e end game instances and PVP). NOT casuals as in hi my name is casuals and i parked my nick here while i go play my main and thats the last time we see him/her. we are casuals in terms of the number of hours we commit in the game, which in this case, much lesser hours and liberal as compared to hardcore. let me just break this up into groups so u guys can properly understand.
1) casuals who dont give a damn ---> 2) casual raiders (this is LoTH) ----> 3) hardcore (must attend every raid on weekend and weekdays) ----> 4) ultra elite. (omfg u dont log in 4 hours u are gkick!)
later as the guild progress we find that hey there are actually a lot of casual raiders (woking ppl, students, nubies, rerolls etc) which really suit the guild characteristics and we need to put some form of the rules, strategy, plan, idea, guide, in place to maintain the guild development. so dont confuse the word casuals as in casual guild that dont give a damn of the guild development. guild harmony and development is actually our major focus.
bottomline is, we are a casual guild, but we still have proper plan, rules and strategy in place so that every casuals out there who are unable to commit the requirement of a hardcore guild can still enjoy the game. thats why u join LoTH... without going mental.
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Firstly, so very sorry for being a pain. I kinda understand where you are heading but there is one concern that isn't being addressed... what is your definition of casual?
Casual gamer who levels in his/her own time could mean a gamer who levels at a pace of how much time he/she has. E.g. If a "casual gamer" only plays 2 hours on Saturday when he is back from outstation before leaving for his job on Sunday and basically is non existent working till the next sunday...can this be considered casual? He is progressing mind you...each time you log in and play you earn exp so technically as long as that blue bubble moves..he is progressing. My question to you is this..Is he progressing at the pace which is counted as acceptable by the honorable LoTH officers?
I completely understand that casual and yes even regular/hard core players should not be spared from being kicked if they don't give a damn about the guild, cause disharmony, grief others and misbehaving to a point he/she becomes a liability. But kicking someone because he/she is slow is another thing.
Let it be stated from the start what and how many hours is deemed acceptable to you which fits the expected "casual gamer No one wants to invest precious little time (yes some ppl actually are posted offshore or outstation for weeks or even months) to level their toons (albeit ssllllloooooowwwwlly) to find that they are kicked out because their "casualness" is too casual for LoTH.
so yes, this still remains a concern.
Again my apologies for inconvenience caused.