And don't forget mrcb - epf have another huge land nearby
Together all this big player will transsint bukit Jalil into next big thing

Don't wait to buy property, buy property and wait

I ALSO hope ... park 2 win i win park 2 died i died hgaha

Center of klang valley....

Wat a joke.....

In my past 30yrs i only went to bj 3 times.

I went to kajang and klang more often.

Aww don't be sour grape
U don't went to bukit Jalil often doesn't mean others not
In future more and more will go after opening of imu hospital, tzu ji international school and Pavillion mall
You can stay at your Klang and Kajang forever
No butthurt

What so special abt hospital skool n mall in bj???

Why need to publicize so greatly abt the mall?????? Worried nobody will go there????

Its just a mall, for goodness sake.

Also pls check also parkhill how many lelong units.

I dun stay at neither klang nor kajang but i went there more often than bj. How can bj be the gravity of klang valley???

And if you dont know the meaning of sour grape and butthurt pls dun use them casually. Its really meaningless in tis context.

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Jan 14 2019, 08:58 PM

con9lan7cbfirm sour grap MAX

Park 2 got bridge connecting to the mall, a bridge connecting to the park and abundance of shops + offices in between the residences and the mall.

You've got everything there, entertainment/shopping/shops just within your vicinity (not to mention the shops within your own residence and park residences). You've also got a golf course if you fancy golf.

You have a kindergarten, a primary and secondary school within less than 500 meters, you have a BIG PUBLIC PARK which will never go away in front of your residence, LRT within less than 2km if you REALLY need to use the train.

A medical university nearby not to mention a hospital and international school coming up.

Bukit Jalil park not too near and not too far if there are any events or concert held there.

No TnB, no manufacturing and you can't say your residence appeal is bad when infront of you is a well maintain park and behind of you is a brand new mall and beside you are brand new residences and shops.


What's your excuse now?

to be fair... all these rely alot on future factors which in current climate doesn't bodes well with it... whether it will succeed if given 5 or maybe 10 years is another matter to be discuss... there are places that have all the shops, offices and mall they want and still failed miserably... if this is BB then it makes more sense... in the end what investors wanna see is how self sustainable it can be given the premium prices paid for a non CBD location....

As an outsider's POV. When talk about bukit jalil, the first thing that come across my mind is stadium, be it for sports or concert. I only go there for concert/football match. In my opinion, its more to residential area, cause I can see many high rise residences completed and undercon. For the pavilion, it might attract BJ and surrounding ppl such a kinrara. Other than that, what makes you think people want to go to Pavilion BJ instead of BB. If you talk about shoplots, entertainment, Pavilion BB could serve better plus, Pavi BB got MRT, free GOKL bus.

btw, I did consider park 2 previously when ppl compare about it with the one im looking at.

This is a forum where ppl voice out their opinions, no need to butthurt. Either you think about it or just wait lor.

This post has been edited by naqib0307: Jan 14 2019, 09:36 PM

time will tell
just like how last time people dont look good on sunway and mid valley area

sunway and MV focus on bringing up their commercials first before coming out with abundance of residential blocks.... but BJ seems like taking the terbalik way.... built damn alot of high density condos which some of it VP for sometime already and still haven't filled up more than 50%... and normally mall will heavily try to advertise the anchor tenant and major tenants that they have but pavilion 2 also did the terbalik way....

Then tell me what makes you think Subang will attract people compared to BJ?

The thing is, you have to know malls attract people not people attract malls.

The anchor tenants and what the mall has to offer are what attracts people NOT location. Just look at Jaya Shopping center, it is in the middle of section 13, one of the most strategic place with heavy traffic but despite that the mall is very very quiet. That is because they do not have the proper tenant to attract people and there is no reason for people to go there. Same goes for Subang Parade but Subang Parade traffic has increased in the recent years thanks to the movie theater and also other additions.

If you dive in deeper, there is something very important when it comes to getting good anchor tenants which is the mall managements. Pavilion and Sunway REIT have strong brand name which attracts tenants that is why you don't see any tom dick and harry mall can easily just get good tenants to join.

Bottom line, it is clear that there are plentiful development in BJ. The well received residences units are proof that there will be significant traffic being built in that area and on top of that the surrounding appeal like a public park is a big plus. Time will tell if the place will become another Sunway Pyramid or another Da Men/Jaya Shopping center.

Yes agree
Looks at how Sunway velocity turn around that area
Cochrane was once consider low cost area
With all the flat surrounding
Now Sunway velocity become place for Cheras people to spend leisure time

Comapare to my town, the tennat lose significantly

This post has been edited by dz91: Jan 14 2019, 10:46 PM

If you want to be prosperous in an area u need to have something that other areas dont have.

What you mention here is common things....condo service apartments landed mall zome retaild some offices a park and etc...it only serves local and neigbourhood areas.

Stop talking bj is going to be the next big thing bcos its not and it will never be. Lrt 2 kms away....wonder how ppl is going to go pav despite apa link brdige and park.

Sunway got prosperious bcos of water park mall hotel college or university.

What as pav got beside the usual retail therapy? Retails shops?? What special shops are there? Offices...which international conpanies are they?

Might as well move to bangsar south at least i got mall lrt link bridge to mall, offices, alibaba n etc.....

Just for yr info jaya shopping mall was one of THE two places for people to hang out, like asia jaya ....for whole pj. Despite what you talk abt subang parade, its still almost fully occupied compared to the newer malls.

Unfortunately they cant turn their fortune around bcos many malls have opened up..these days ....

We already saturated w malls...add another nall wont make any impact be it pavillion brand suria brand or mid valley brand.

Tell me, what One Utama have? What MV have? Your argument makes no sense, you think SP flourish because of sunway lagoon? please...

Lot 15 you said everything best but because of TnB you say suck.

Park 2 got everything and no TnB, you say suck because you assume it is going do badly.

APA YOU MAU actually? Cannot satisfy you one la... when every aspect is ok you use your assumption/imagination to say it suck... like that you win liao lo..

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 14 2019, 11:02 PM

Wat 1u midvalley sunway have when other areas dont have. They built up bases and fansi already and it tskes time...10yrs 20yrs??.?

Pav not even completed yet....u believe if will replace all the top 5 malls within what?? 1 yr 2 yrs?

Lot 15 is not perfect? What wrong with that? Its just one condo amongst dozen of others there....and it wont affect sjcc.

Please dun put words in my mouth. Something you really need to learn. Pls copy and paste my previous posting abt bj is going to do badly......

I just said bj is not the center of klang valley and never will be. What ever bj has or proposed to have will not be unique enough to attract outsiders to come to bj.

Perhaps a linked bridge to mall and a park will be tourist attraction.

Tell you want.....setia residences also have link bridge to setia mall, and setia mall is facing a park also.

Perhaps a new bj already been born before...just that nobody really care......

Your argument implies BJ city will do badly, even other forumers here are saying you sour grape. Perhaps in your mind you think what you are saying is neutral but it is not, everything you've said before and now has always been leaning towards a heavy implication on something good or bad.

I've argued that Park 2 is better than Lot 15 overall few months ago but you can't seem to actually challenge my points but the only thing you've said is because it is Subang and Subang is better than BJ. Care to refute my points said earlier and actually challenge why you think Lot 15 is better than the points I gave few posts earlier? SA mentioned that Lot 15 is the last piece of land for service apartment in ss16/1 (within the TOD area) so it is unique in a way and based on Sime's original plan, it is indeed the last piece of land used for service apartment while the rest within SS16/1 (TOD area) will be either soho/office or a mall. So I'm not sure what you meant by one condo amongst dozen of others there meant cause there are no other high end high rise condo like Lot 15 in SS16/1 .

And what is your argument that BJ is not unique enough to attract outsiders? So far, you've been giving statements but there is not facts/figures hence what is the purpose? Are we suppose to just say "Yeah, no one will go BJ because beanboy said so"

Tell me what? Your sentence ends with Setia res also have link bridge to the mall and facing park, what are you actually wanting to tell me? Is there any actual point or it is just a statement?

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 14 2019, 11:35 PM

Sour ... lock the threat bah

I read and re read but i dont see your points......

You seem like need a guiding hand to explain to you every line i posted then you baru understand....

No one got time for that....

And yr assumptiom is terrible....and simple put words in my mouth. Your assumption doesnt mean universal assumption. only one forumer like you said i am sour grape and i still wanting for him or her to explain to me what is sour grape in my context.

Sour grape butthurt are the two vocabs here.....used by haters.


Park2 n pav and park already reproduced else where already.....you think this is only unique to park2 and it will perform outstandingly to over take mid valley and 1u?

You also didnt buy park2 or lot 15 just like me....stop refute about my comment for the sake of refuting....

What you also sour grape and butthurt?

This post has been edited by BEANCOUNTER: Jan 14 2019, 11:44 PM

no need to argue
why waste time ?
only time will tell

in investment , we always heard " aiya , i should have bought this 10 years back , i should have bought this 20 years back "
but in fact give them another opportunity again , they will still miss it

thats what make some people millionaire and some just common folks

one men meat is another men poison

u got ur own view , we got ours

u can stay invest in your subang / kajang / klang and what ever place

and lets look back this thread 10 years later

malton and desmond Lim is not stupid enough to throw billion and built a failing mall with the most successful Brand he created , the "pavilion" name

so what is it he had spotted in this land and we dont ?
you think you can outsmart him ?