Now I remember why I stopped talking to you.

Damn, things never changed... I expected you will give these type of stupid half baked non contributional response. It happened the last time and it happened again.

I guess I walked into the same trap the minute I thought this time it would be different.

Do me a favour, don't bother quoting me.... I'm tired of seeing your name appearing on my notification.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jan 15 2019, 12:39 AM

I don't mind a good argument but beanboy there never gave one.

It's the same thing that happened to me last time and it happened again.

The last time I argued with him on another project he responded "you don't understand one la" and those sort of avoiding questions but yet insisting on his point.

IT HAPPENED AGAIN... the last time I said he doesn't contribute anything but just mindless posts, I guess he never change... why he bother to even start a debate when he is not actually presenting any points I don't know. Perhaps he just wants to start a fight or he just wants to up his stars (I can't believe I am saying this shit again after half a year avoiding that schmuck)

The surrounding area ( sri petaling, puchong, bukit Jalil) crowd is enough to sustain it
I did a critical population study for BJ and I can tell you that is a fallacy.
Pav 2 will nevertheless be a new landmark for BJ, but I think people are expecting way too much and putting in too high a valuation for it.

But I have my bias, never thought BJ deserves the out-of-proportion promotion.

U did study on population of bj
But did ur study cover sri petaling and puchong people as well??

According to some wealth report, only about 3% of adults in this country have over us$100k net worth.

historically, residential property price rise at about inflation rate in the long term. by inflation alone, price will be significantly higher in 10 years time. as most buy property with bank loan; if price rise lower than loan interest incurred is a monetary loss.

property is a zero sum game; investor/buyer and developer are on different side of the same coin; what is good for developer may not be true for buyer/investor; developer get the first bite of cherry and whatever is left behind is for buyer/investor.

During last property bull run, some advocated to follow tan sri of ew and ms, and see what happen to many of them now? pavilion may be prominent and successful at bb, doesn't mean it's name is a sure win e.g da men mall at usj.

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When is this 10yrs time frame came from???
Did anyone in the last day talked abt 10yrs period???

Tis thread is just like cyber and em.....when reality hit and cant flip or rent.....then owners will say thing like good for own stay, cant flip ones......or wait lah for 10yrs....sure boom one....

10yrs my iron tree also can flower already......
Beside...who has many years of 10 yr for investment????

For me, bj is just a better version of cyber.....

Actually land status also same....both are restricted freehold.

those who say pavilion2 are no good, all are stupid, this project if not good can be sold all? you think all investor are stupid only you smart? what i worry just this pavillion2 no those world class brand.. will be minus a little bit

This post has been edited by morris6660: Jan 15 2019, 01:11 PM

investors are certainly not stupid but could be blinded by greed.

yes lah...those that didn't buy park2 are all sour grapes, butthurts and what else....oh yes....stupid...…

if you dont have crystal ball, please dont make assumption that park 2 will bring you great fortune. all these feel good factors are only on papers or on your mind, they have not been realised yet.

wait til your park 2 can flip for over 30% gross gain, or your rental can cover your real interest cost, then you will have the last say "i told you so'. until then, please dont call non investors stupid, sour grapes and butthurt, it only shows how swallow your mentality is.

Do consider also that IOI city mall is very near to puchong plus on the weekend I can say is FULL with ppl. IOI city mall phase 2 is coming soon. Maybe can ask the service residence beside ioi city mall investors how they are doing there. When phase 2 is completed, the residence there will be closer to the mall also. What can pavilion BJ offer that other mall don't have? If the tenants is not like pavilion BB then bye bye lor. If the tenants is like that also, who in BJ will go there to shop? I guess that kind of ppl prefer in BB/KLCC area.

The resident at ioi city mall is of course nearer to ioi city mall lo
Lol!!

General speaking , bukit Jalil is still nearer for puchong folks compare to Putrajaya ioi

Now ioi city is full because of puchong people
Wait until pavilion bj open then it will be another game changer

The different between pavilion bj and ioi city is so obvious
The branding
The management team

Just look at pavilion BB decoration each year during Christmas and cny
All this is also pull factor


We don't have much information yet on pavilion bj
The tenant list, the interior design

So just wait and see until everything is completed and see whether this is a fail fail project or wow project

no lah…

when Pav BJ opens, Puchong nangs wont go to IOI mall anymore.....this mall will serve Putrajaya and part of kajang nangs only...….

same with OKR nangs wont go mid valley anymore

and Putra Heights USJ nangs also boh hiew apa oldies subang parade anymore.....

all will be gathered at Pav BJ already, the center of klang valley. desmond got smart vision de......

actually whoa....for pav bb, everything is priced beyond me.....even eateries also.....and the food court is

but that just me bcos I am stupid and sour grape.

Wah all the love/hate expressed in this thread.

Man, I invested in both areas! Just to inform my shop lot in BJC is fully tenanted but at low rent lah.

when pavillion done then comfirm u up the rental the tenants also wont run......

only 900-1000 per square feet can stay pavillion up stair high class apartment direct link bridge, i can say comfirm capital gain, when your old condo and your parents stay at bukit jalil when you can find more money u sure buy one for own stay....

just call to malton team, they say world class brand LV GUCCI PRADA STILL Discuss....

how about Hermes and Bijan????? any possibility boh?

of course they will tell you that. so called luxury mall surrounded by HIGH-END residences

But anyway, all the best to all the investors and hopefully everything is well