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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Sep 24 2016, 03:44 PM

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cash also has its opportunity cost and benefit de.....

when calculating rental yields, shouldn't be looking bulat bulat at loan repayment and its interest cost only......

for cf maybe its correct...but to calculate rental yields its wrong.
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post Sep 24 2016, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(limwc78 @ Sep 24 2016, 02:19 PM)
Investing property and putting in FD difference.

For example RM 500,000 property, you only need to invest 10% -30% , around RM 50,000 to RM 150,000 then you can get 3-4% rental return.

If FD you need RM 500,000 cash then only to get the 3% - 4% interest rate return.
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I know what u tried to illustrate but if yield is 3-4%...this us below bank interest rate...meaning u make nothing out of remtal....plus u need to foot up reno maintenance insurance and perhaps mot and etc....

And hope that capital appreciation will cover your cost later...
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post Sep 24 2016, 07:24 PM

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Everybody so gangho with pav2 which still havent laid a brick yet.

Buy on rumours
Sell on fact...
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:42 PM

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Invest in property just take it as force saving lah...

Imagine got 100k cash in hand...itchy backside will use for travel lah..buy expensive watches lah upgrade cars lah macam macam.....
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post Oct 15 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Lowtan @ Oct 15 2016, 01:23 PM)
Placed a booking for Park 2 last week.
smallest unit.
like the location, the whole integrated development huge reputable mall in front and lush greenery park behind.
my only concern is how much i have to top up for installment from my rental..
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Depends on how successful the mall is....
And the daily jamx3 on bj highway
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post Oct 16 2016, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(wltw87 @ Oct 16 2016, 12:48 AM)
woah.. thats quite pricey even after rebates.
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They are cashing in the unknown mall.

Havent investors learnt from velocity?
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post Dec 15 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Dec 15 2016, 06:00 AM)
morning sir, what does it means by 4-5 units per floor?
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Only 4-5units out of xxunits per floor are buyable.
I think the orientation and views suck qua.
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post Aug 20 2017, 03:27 PM

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how to fully sell out?

no bumi quote ke?
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post Jan 14 2019, 02:28 PM

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sorry if I ask a noob question...

why people here only talk abt park 2?

was there park 1 to begin with?
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post Jan 14 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Jan 14 2019, 12:29 PM)
Pavilion 2 will be a regional mall
One of the biggest in Malaysia
No where comparing to Damen and intermark 😑😑😑
The surrounding area ( sri petaling, puchong, bukit Jalil) crowd is enough to sustain it
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good luck to have Hermes Gucci if the crowds are from the above 3 areas...….

and the biggest spender of Hermes, Rosma is going to jail soon...….I dun think even Pav BB can sustain Hermes there.....
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post Jan 14 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Jan 14 2019, 02:40 PM)
I heard the name of the Mall will not be Pavilion anymore, is it true?
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replaced with cina mari name ah?

grand palace shopping mall? Twin Dragons Shopping Mall? devil.gif
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post Jan 14 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 14 2019, 02:54 PM)
Da Fang Shopping Mall.... after Da Men  devil.gif
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not da da men meh?????? tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2019, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(kenty @ Jan 14 2019, 05:08 PM)
Pavilion Bukit Jalil - Nan Men
Pavilion Damansara Height - Xi Men
Pavilion Embassy - Bei Men
Pavilion Genting Highland - Tian Men (Convenient to reach Xi Tian if visit casino every day 😱😱😱)
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I want xi men...….lbgt haven...... drool.gif
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post Jan 14 2019, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Jan 14 2019, 08:07 PM)
Only time can tell whether it will be successful or not
With lot of college nearby, and the strategic location of the mall facing huge park and being center of Klang Valley

I strongly believe it will do well
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Center of klang valley....

Wat a joke.....

In my past 30yrs i only went to bj 3 times.

I went to kajang and klang more often.
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post Jan 14 2019, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Jan 14 2019, 08:24 PM)
Aww don't be sour grape
U don't went to bukit Jalil often doesn't mean others not
In future more and more will go after opening of imu hospital, tzu ji international school and Pavillion mall
You can stay at your Klang and Kajang forever
No butthurt
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What so special abt hospital skool n mall in bj???

Why need to publicize so greatly abt the mall?????? Worried nobody will go there????

Its just a mall, for goodness sake.

Also pls check also parkhill how many lelong units.

I dun stay at neither klang nor kajang but i went there more often than bj. How can bj be the gravity of klang valley???

And if you dont know the meaning of sour grape and butthurt pls dun use them casually. Its really meaningless in tis context.

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post Jan 14 2019, 10:38 PM

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If you want to be prosperous in an area u need to have something that other areas dont have.

What you mention here is common things....condo service apartments landed mall zome retaild some offices a park and etc...it only serves local and neigbourhood areas.

Stop talking bj is going to be the next big thing bcos its not and it will never be. Lrt 2 kms away....wonder how ppl is going to go pav despite apa link brdige and park.

Sunway got prosperious bcos of water park mall hotel college or university.

What as pav got beside the usual retail therapy? Retails shops?? What special shops are there? Offices...which international conpanies are they?

Might as well move to bangsar south at least i got mall lrt link bridge to mall, offices, alibaba n etc.....
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post Jan 14 2019, 10:44 PM

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Just for yr info jaya shopping mall was one of THE two places for people to hang out, like asia jaya ....for whole pj. Despite what you talk abt subang parade, its still almost fully occupied compared to the newer malls.

Unfortunately they cant turn their fortune around bcos many malls have opened up..these days ....

We already saturated w malls...add another nall wont make any impact be it pavillion brand suria brand or mid valley brand.
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post Jan 14 2019, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jan 14 2019, 11:01 PM)
Tell me, what One Utama have? What MV have? Your argument makes no sense, you think SP flourish because of sunway lagoon? please...

Lot 15 you said everything best but because of TnB you say suck.

Park 2 got everything and no TnB, you say suck because you assume it is going do badly.

APA YOU MAU actually? Cannot satisfy you one la... when every aspect is ok you use your assumption/imagination to say it suck... like that you win liao lo..
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Wat 1u midvalley sunway have when other areas dont have. They built up bases and fansi already and it tskes time...10yrs 20yrs??.?

Pav not even completed yet....u believe if will replace all the top 5 malls within what?? 1 yr 2 yrs?

Lot 15 is not perfect? What wrong with that? Its just one condo amongst dozen of others there....and it wont affect sjcc.

Please dun put words in my mouth. Something you really need to learn. Pls copy and paste my previous posting abt bj is going to do badly......

I just said bj is not the center of klang valley and never will be. What ever bj has or proposed to have will not be unique enough to attract outsiders to come to bj.

Perhaps a linked bridge to mall and a park will be tourist attraction.

Tell you want.....setia residences also have link bridge to setia mall, and setia mall is facing a park also.

Perhaps a new bj already been born before...just that nobody really care......

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post Jan 14 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jan 14 2019, 11:31 PM)
Your argument implies BJ city will do badly, even other forumers here are saying you sour grape. Perhaps in your mind you think what you are saying is neutral but it is not, everything you've said before and now has always been leaning towards a heavy implication on something good or bad.

I've argued that Park 2 is better than Lot 15 overall few months ago but you can't seem to actually challenge my points but the only thing you've said is because it is Subang and Subang is better than BJ. Care to refute my points said earlier and actually challenge why you think Lot 15 is better than the points I gave few posts earlier? SA mentioned that Lot 15 is the last piece of land for service apartment in ss16/1 (within the TOD area) so it is unique in a way and based on Sime's original plan, it is indeed the last piece of land used for service apartment while the rest within SS16/1 (TOD area) will be either soho/office or a mall. So I'm not sure what you meant by one condo amongst dozen of others there meant cause there are no other high end high rise condo like Lot 15 in SS16/1 .

And what is your argument that BJ is not unique enough to attract outsiders? So far, you've been giving statements but there is not facts/figures hence what is the purpose? Are we suppose to just say "Yeah, no one will go BJ because beanboy said so"

Tell me what? Your sentence ends with Setia res also have link bridge to the mall and facing park, what are you actually wanting to tell me? Is there any actual point or it is just a statement?
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I read and re read but i dont see your points......

You seem like need a guiding hand to explain to you every line i posted then you baru understand....

No one got time for that....

And yr assumptiom is terrible....and simple put words in my mouth. Your assumption doesnt mean universal assumption. only one forumer like you said i am sour grape and i still wanting for him or her to explain to me what is sour grape in my context.

Sour grape butthurt are the two vocabs here.....used by haters.


Park2 n pav and park already reproduced else where already.....you think this is only unique to park2 and it will perform outstandingly to over take mid valley and 1u?

You also didnt buy park2 or lot 15 just like me....stop refute about my comment for the sake of refuting....

What you also sour grape and butthurt?

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post Jan 15 2019, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Jan 14 2019, 11:59 PM)
no need to argue
why waste time ?
only time will tell

in investment , we always heard " aiya , i should have bought this 10 years back , i should have bought this 20 years back "
but in fact give them another opportunity again , they will still miss it

thats what make some people millionaire and some just common folks

one men meat is another men poison

u got ur own view , we got ours

u can stay invest in your subang / kajang / klang and what ever place

and lets look back this thread 10 years later

malton and desmond Lim is not stupid enough to throw billion and built a failing mall with the most successful Brand he created , the "pavilion" name

so what is it he had spotted in this land and we dont ?
you think you can outsmart him ?
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When is this 10yrs time frame came from???
Did anyone in the last day talked abt 10yrs period???

Tis thread is just like cyber and em.....when reality hit and cant flip or rent.....then owners will say thing like good for own stay, cant flip ones......or wait lah for 10yrs....sure boom one....

10yrs my iron tree also can flower already......
Beside...who has many years of 10 yr for investment????

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