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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Sep 25 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(terrykow @ Sep 25 2016, 04:10 PM)
For sure the mall will succeed. But how's the condo?
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"For sure the mall will succeed. But how's the condo?"
LOL bro i think you already answer your own question
lowyatan
post Sep 25 2016, 05:34 PM

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Bla bla concept, branded developer, come come to buy! Once all condo fully sold, agents and developer both fat fat. Buyers are on their own, no tenants, poor rental yield, oversupply, high maintenance cost, high dense and high living cost, wow, these info no agents inform ? Why ppl still wanna clean the neck to let them chop?
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post Sep 25 2016, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 25 2016, 05:34 PM)
Bla bla concept, branded developer, come come to buy! Once all condo fully sold, agents and developer both fat fat. Buyers are on their own, no tenants, poor rental yield, oversupply,  high maintenance cost, high dense and high living cost, wow, these info no agents inform ? Why ppl still wanna clean the neck to let them chop?
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Went there this morning,
Look like a lot people are interested.
Small unit even without good view can also selling fast.
A sign of good economy recovering....😆
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(limwc78 @ Sep 24 2016, 02:19 PM)
Investing property and putting in FD difference.

For example RM 500,000 property, you only need to invest 10% -30% , around RM 50,000 to RM 150,000 then you can get 3-4% rental return.

If FD you need RM 500,000 cash then only to get the 3% - 4% interest rate return.
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I think a lot of people being fooled into the terminology of return. you need to compare to the opportunity cost in this case.

Firstly if you have 100k case, lets assume with FD, you will earn let say 4% per annum, 4k per year.

Now , investing that 100k into deposit of a 500k property, will resulting in 2 things:

1. no more 4% return or 4k per year
2. You need to pay 4.5% on the loan (400k) , assuming all the cost covered and assuming property is completed. which is about 18k a year.

So, if you want to maintain 4% return on your 100k, you need to rent out the said property at min 22k a year (assuming again no other cost , like assessment, maintenance, etc). So roughly you need the rental to be about 1900 per month. on a 500k property (Assuming again that is the market price), your rental yield is about 4.4%.

take note that the rental price is driven by market and not what we desire unless the demand is so high that the owner can call whatever rental fee that they like. But still, there will be a limit , before the demand shifted or reduced due to increasing rental.

You may argue that property give you capital appreciation, that is true and only valid when the market (direct or indirect) is not suffering or you are not buying at inflated price.

SAme like stock market, you need to choose what to buy and when to buy, seriously, how many really knows for sure.
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:42 PM

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Invest in property just take it as force saving lah...

Imagine got 100k cash in hand...itchy backside will use for travel lah..buy expensive watches lah upgrade cars lah macam macam.....
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post Sep 26 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 24 2016, 11:19 PM)
Currently, Sunway Pyramid, One Utama, Midvalley, KLCC, Pavilion are those top 5 mall in Malaysia with highest PSF on NLA as valued by DTZ Nawawi Malaysia.

From Geographical location analysis, Each and every 5 malls above are strategically located in matured and developed townshipsssss.

To me, it's still too early to comments on the successfulness of PV2 due to surrounding area, so far, has no similar competitor to benchmark.

Eventually, since this mall is located between IOI Puchong and THe Mines.

So, it may gain some advantages if both of these malls are not doing well.
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my point of view , Luxury Mall in Klang Valley only this 3 : KLCC , PAVILLION, GARDEN. Maybe the upcoming Mall PAVILLION DAMANSARA HEIGHT. Must See whether they get the real luxury retail tenant or not( like prada, Gucci , LV , channel etc rclxm9.gif vmad.gif drool.gif

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post Sep 26 2016, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(18830 @ Sep 26 2016, 01:28 AM)
my point of view , Luxury Mall in Klang Valley only this 3 : KLCC , PAVILLION, GARDEN. Maybe the upcoming Mall PAVILLION DAMANSARA HEIGHT. Must See whether they get the real luxury retail tenant or not( like prada, Gucci , LV , channel etc rclxm9.gif  vmad.gif  drool.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 02:59 PM

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Million dollar for high density condo is no sense. It is better to invest in Eco city or BBCC.
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post Sep 26 2016, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 25 2016, 11:42 PM)
Invest in property just take it as force saving lah...

Imagine got 100k cash in hand...itchy backside will use for travel lah..buy expensive watches lah upgrade cars lah macam macam.....
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Better buy saving plan from HLB
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post Sep 26 2016, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Marcus CPY @ Sep 25 2016, 01:07 PM)
May I know current selling price psf?

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only indicative price given RM880/sqf
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post Sep 26 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 26 2016, 08:36 PM)
Better buy saving plan from HLB
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RM depreciate, only the figure look big later no value bro😥
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post Sep 26 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(small talk @ Sep 26 2016, 11:13 PM)
RM depreciate, only the figure look big later no value bro😥
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Buy stock better.

Economic bad, whole property market bad.
Economic bad, some stocks perform better. Even bad also giving dividend more 4%

Dont invest blindy. This period simply invest property mostly help the property agents earn money only. Must invest wisely in only good property (very limited 0.01% ) , if own stay then another story.
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post Sep 26 2016, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(kokkk @ Sep 25 2016, 12:00 PM)
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A lot of improvement room for their layout design.
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post Sep 27 2016, 01:08 AM

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Lousy design and layout, taking full advantages on the buyers by branded name, dun fall into the trap of agents. Keep promoting the unrealistic projection. So many has fall into park1, still using the same old trick on park2.
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post Sep 27 2016, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 27 2016, 01:08 AM)
Lousy design and layout, taking full advantages on the buyers by branded name, dun fall into the trap of agents. Keep promoting the unrealistic projection. So many has fall into park1, still using the same old trick on park2.
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Why so frustrated bro, hope u r not the so call vitim of park1
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post Sep 27 2016, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(small talk @ Sep 27 2016, 08:07 PM)
Why so frustrated bro, hope u r not the so call vitim of park1
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Not me bro, pity some frens stucked. Now still many units of park1 for sales, anyone interested fas go go to buy.
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post Sep 27 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 27 2016, 08:39 PM)
Not me bro, pity some frens stucked. Now still many units of park1 for sales, anyone interested fas go go to buy.
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Really?
Can show here ka?
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post Sep 28 2016, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 27 2016, 08:39 PM)
Not me bro, pity some frens stucked. Now still many units of park1 for sales, anyone interested fas go go to buy.
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I tot fully sold ??
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Sep 28 2016, 04:07 AM)
I tot fully sold ??
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For your info and those who did not know the actual info.
1100units of Park 1 still left about another 50 more units to go
Mostly high floor, if you like staying high above the ground enjoying good views then you may consider.


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post Sep 28 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Sep 28 2016, 11:14 AM)
For your info and those who did not know the actual info.
1100units of Park 1 still left about another 50 more units to go
Mostly high floor, if you like staying high above the ground enjoying good views then you may consider.
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May I know the latest net selling price psf for Park 1 and available size?

TQ

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