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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Sep 16 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Sep 16 2016, 12:05 PM)
Wau! MRT is reaching TPM which is just 600m away from Pavilion Bukit Jalil City

PM launches RM32b second MRT line to turn Klang Valley into world
class city | Malaysia | Mobile | Malay Mail Online
http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...world-class-cit

For more info can also look into this
https://www.facebook.com/MasterPiecePropertiesMalaysia/
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Guarantee next year will be Election Year.
So many Mega Infrastructure project launch even in Sarawak.
Is the time to get all these mega players to commit on election fund.

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post Sep 18 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 18 2016, 11:10 AM)
8 lifts
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If 8lift will be super premium to serve not more than 12units per floor..
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post Sep 18 2016, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(KLProperty @ Sep 18 2016, 03:45 PM)
Tks Ryan for sharing.

Park 2
Tower 1:
8 Passenger lift + 1 service lift
10 Units per floor.
2 Units dual-key with Balcony facing Bukit Jalil Park
2 Units dual key without balcony facing pavilion Mall.
6 unit of 750 sqf (1+1 room)

Tower 2 is ...
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Look like very well design.
Anyone got the indicative psf??? icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 24 2016, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 24 2016, 12:08 AM)
I'm saying 3% to 4% is Considered good already at today's market. If you compare to the majority of getting less than 4% today. If any readers who doesn't understand the concept of "relativity", please let me know for me to explain clearer.

I tracked more than 1,000 new property launches in KV with data for the last 5 years or so.  Btw I'm an accountant and a property investor myself.

Now investors always think 4% to 5% is the benchmark. But let's be honest. The minute your rental cannot cover your instalment (loan of 4.4++%), then you know you are already not getting that level of returns. Simple as that.
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By the way, when we all mentioned about 3-4% of rental yield,
It would be more accurate if we r to refer to latest market value of the property,
Not the purchase price.

For example,

10years ago I brought Apartment in Bkt Jalil for RM150k.
Rental rate during 2006 is RM800/month
Therefore, I enjoyed a rental yield of 7.2% as at Year 2006

Today this apartment is valued at RM400k,
Rental rate is RM1,200/month
The rental yield has been dropped to 3.6% as at today.

From both the above rental yield and return,
We can actually draw some conclusion as below

1) The rental rate has not been increase much (800-1200) for the pass ten years taking into consideration of inflation and time value for money.

2) The capital appreciation for Bkt Jalil apartment is increasing with the pace which is faster than rental yield.
It shown the oversupply situation is getting nearer with lesser demand for rent.

3) The increased in capital appreciation may also indicate increase in demand but more for occupier because the increase in rental yield pace is slow.

But if you plot a graph to compare both variable, you will realise that the oversupply situation is getting nearer due to the capital appreciation is starting to getting slow and constant (also due to 10years apartment).

In overall, I would still keep this property even the capital appreciation and rental yield is getting lower, increase in much slower pace for the following reason:-

1) The upcoming malls will at least keep the "minimum rental rate" been constant for rent to mall workers.
2) The increase in surrounding new property density will keep the capital value of my property when come to a stage of full and or saturated supply situation.
3) Of course, low entry cost (10years ago) and low maintenance fees which relief the pressure for holding....

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post Sep 24 2016, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Sep 24 2016, 10:56 AM)
Looks like arena green. Agree on positive points what has been well described but some issues must be addressed in tis Aprt.
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Bingo, but sadly, I didn't sell and buy and flip....

Otherwise, now would have more cash in hand, or otherwise, higher committed loan to serve...

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post Sep 24 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(maxxng12 @ Sep 24 2016, 12:22 PM)
with today so-called normal expectation of 3-4% rental yield in most of the projects, why don't considered to park your cash money in the FD instead? stably 4% annually...
and no need to deal with the hassle of the renting issue and the tenant problem, when oversupply, each people will undercut each other and war price start to come in, easily can observe from the pricing trend of twin arks...
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Yes. You are right if we only looking at rental yield and directly converted into Investment yield (fix deposit),

Also, 3-4% rental yield return is accurate if you buying the entire property by CASH MONEY (free to serve bank borrowing interest) and also assuming zero expenses such like maintenance cost.

But anyhow, I believe those invested in property also looking at Capital application despite rental yield return.

Malaysia house price index is 6~7% increased average for the past 10years records. This may sufficiently offset the borrowing interest serve as this is calculated by compounded basis....

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post Sep 24 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(terrykow @ Sep 24 2016, 01:18 PM)
Based on the developer profile, famous malton track record, this project is still a reasonable good buy for investment but is a big NO for ownstay, especially for small unit.
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Depending on our individual financial capability and flexibility,

Investing in.property is also the wise choice and more stable (not very high return) in compare to stock market, currency...

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post Sep 24 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Sep 24 2016, 03:44 PM)
Ya. Because of inflation which is out of Malaysia gov control. Corrupted racist Malaysia gov only can affect the malaysian income increase slowly but appreciation of property due to inflation and ringgit malaysia depreciation definitely caused the property prices seems higher and higher in malaysia.

Lost decade of Malaysia already started.
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When I was in primary school,
Primary school teacher afford to buy Honda Accord to work.
Now, primary school teacher can only afford local car and probably Korean car...
In fact, is not because car price is increase (yes, increase in value but due to inflation).
It's because our malaysia ringgit dropping and directly affected our wages.
Honda Accord price increase in line with Global inflationary standard.
Our salary rate is increase in a very slower pace and worst still RM depreciated.

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post Sep 24 2016, 11:19 PM

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Currently, Sunway Pyramid, One Utama, Midvalley, KLCC, Pavilion are those top 5 mall in Malaysia with highest PSF on NLA as valued by DTZ Nawawi Malaysia.

From Geographical location analysis, Each and every 5 malls above are strategically located in matured and developed townshipsssss.

To me, it's still too early to comments on the successfulness of PV2 due to surrounding area, so far, has no similar competitor to benchmark.

Eventually, since this mall is located between IOI Puchong and THe Mines.

So, it may gain some advantages if both of these malls are not doing well.
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post Sep 25 2016, 01:12 PM

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Also interested to kNow.
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post Sep 25 2016, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 25 2016, 05:34 PM)
Bla bla concept, branded developer, come come to buy! Once all condo fully sold, agents and developer both fat fat. Buyers are on their own, no tenants, poor rental yield, oversupply,  high maintenance cost, high dense and high living cost, wow, these info no agents inform ? Why ppl still wanna clean the neck to let them chop?
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Went there this morning,
Look like a lot people are interested.
Small unit even without good view can also selling fast.
A sign of good economy recovering....😆
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post Sep 28 2016, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 02:53 PM)
No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro?  Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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Park 1, Park 2 and Skyluxe are all commercial title,
Measure by Plot Ratio,
Not density.

Except like HARVE and Waltz,
Both are residential title,
Measure by density
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post Oct 2 2016, 01:34 PM

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Not used to stay on top of 6-7 storey car park podium.
Just feel something is missing in today's high rise residential environment.

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post Oct 2 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(SeanFD2 @ Oct 2 2016, 06:52 PM)
If I were Dato Peter, I will sack all this thousands ringgits salary pay sales staff to save my billions ringgit NSV haha.
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Actually what he said is very true,
I have got the same experienced while I am visiting the show room as well.
One of the main reason might due to their low sales commission or they already hit the target,
Waiting for next phase notworthy.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(CORBUSIER @ Oct 6 2016, 02:09 PM)
Park 1, 2 and Skyluxe are luxury service apartments with commercial title.
Waltz is luxury condominium with residential title
Harve is more like prima/ medium range residential

correct me if i am wrong.
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The different in nature between these three developments are the land title.
Either luxury, or prima range of class,...I got no idea.....
Because it is very hard to measure and in our Malaysia industry,
There is no standard guideline in defining the classes of those condominium or service apt.
No point scoring or any rating system.
So better leave it to your own judgement....

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post Oct 13 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(mthc @ Oct 13 2016, 01:25 PM)
Sales must be bad. Private preview since 2 weeks ago already..
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Haha....the first preview in fact in more than two weeks ago....
Never ending preview....
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post Oct 15 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Lowtan @ Oct 15 2016, 01:23 PM)
Placed a booking for Park 2 last week.
smallest unit.
like the location, the whole integrated development huge reputable mall in front and lush greenery park behind.
my only concern is how much i have to top up for installment from my rental..
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Huge mall front,
Large park back.
Look like the only one in Malaysia at this moment.... thumbup.gif


 

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