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Investment THE PARK 2 @ PAVILION BUKIT JALIL [OWNERS' THREAD], Malton to launch Final Phase of BJC

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post Sep 28 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(privilege2u @ Sep 28 2016, 12:14 PM)
For your info and those who did not know the actual info.
1100units of Park 1 still left about another 50 more units to go
Mostly high floor, if you like staying high above the ground enjoying good views then you may consider.
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Mainly because of the pricing .. not cos of the height lol.
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post Sep 28 2016, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 27 2016, 02:08 AM)
Lousy design and layout, taking full advantages on the buyers by branded name, dun fall into the trap of agents. Keep promoting the unrealistic projection. So many has fall into park1, still using the same old trick on park2.
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Big units layout still doable. At least view much much better than skyluxe. Facing west park view, facing old apartment rooftop or apartment wall. Facing substation or little park view. Facing road with little golf view . And many units view blocked by the facade, shading wall. LOL. I suggest you if got money then buy Park for own stay if no money then gg..
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post Sep 28 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Sep 28 2016, 01:52 PM)
Big units layout still doable. At least view much much better than skyluxe.  Facing west park view, facing old apartment rooftop or apartment wall. Facing substation or little park view. Facing road with little golf view . And many units view blocked by the facade, shading wall. LOL. I suggest you if got money then buy Park for own stay if no money then gg..
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No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro? Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:00 PM

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Ya, forgot the views, I heard park views only for big unit, small unit got fantastic highway views, or wall views ( building to building). Lol. Pu@#$÷ki malton, you wanna stay ah?
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:33 PM

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yes park 1 remaining unit are all high floor unit
unsold unit are mainly due to too expensive and high psf
went there last 2 week , saw 2-3 group of china man enquiry regarding park 1 and saw them signing cheque for park 1 @@


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post Sep 28 2016, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 02:53 PM)
No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro?  Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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308/acre is park2?what is the land size ah? i remem park sky is around 160 right? Also, comparing park,waltz, skyluxe also useless 1 la, all abang adik density..

But then 8lifts is interesting, just the layout is abit weird weird. Even small units' kitchen from park sky is more practical.
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post Sep 28 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Sep 28 2016, 03:41 PM)
308/acre is park2?what is the land size ah? i remem park sky is around 160 right? Also, comparing park,waltz, skyluxe also useless 1 la, all abang adik density..

But then 8lifts is interesting, just the layout is abit weird weird. Even small units' kitchen from park sky is more practical.
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park 1 density
1098 / 7.2arce = 152.5
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post Sep 28 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 02:53 PM)
No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro?  Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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All the developers are the same lah, bro.
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post Sep 28 2016, 04:48 PM

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8 lifts seem very generous.. Is it 2 zone ie 4 lifts for each zone?
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post Sep 28 2016, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Prop321 @ Sep 28 2016, 04:48 PM)
8 lifts seem very generous.. Is it 2 zone ie 4 lifts for each zone?
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Generous? 10 Units per floor means 28 to 40 ppl each floor for 52 floor; means easily 1500 people in one tower if fully occupied. One lift only can take 10 to 12 ppl, If give you 4 lift for peak hour wanna wait for how long? Really close my eye. It's not generous, it's bo bian, no choice, have to compensate the load density. @#$%÷×
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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 05:29 PM)
Generous? 10 Units per floor means 28 to 40  ppl each floor for 52 floor; means easily 1500 people in one tower if fully occupied. One lift only can take 10 to 12 ppl,  If give you 4 lift for peak hour  wanna wait for how long? Really close my eye. It's not generous,  it's bo bian, no choice,  have to compensate the load density. @#$%÷×
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looks like you are very anti bukit jalil property
so any good property you recommend ?
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post Sep 28 2016, 06:02 PM

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Based on most recent projects in KL, we found that if we would to follow the residential title methodology of unit density per acre, then it is on the upward trend / rising...

This is a commercial land, so we use plot ratio, and definitely, being the epicentre and final phase of BJC, we shall expect a slightly higher plot ratio.

Buyers are then returned with a much higher no. of lifts per unit, which i think will be one of the biggest selling point here.
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post Sep 28 2016, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Sep 28 2016, 06:02 PM)
Based on most recent projects in KL, we found that if we would to follow the residential title methodology of unit density per acre, then it is on the upward trend / rising...

This is a commercial land, so we use plot ratio, and definitely, being the epicentre and final phase of BJC, we shall expect a slightly higher plot ratio.

Buyers are then returned with a much higher no. of lifts per unit, which i think will be one of the biggest selling point here.
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You can use any phrases that you want, per acre, per population or plot ratio, high density means high la. Since when higher no of lifts become selling point of a high end property? What kind of point ? Dun twist the facts with words.
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post Sep 28 2016, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Sep 28 2016, 05:58 PM)
looks like you are very anti bukit jalil property
so any good property you recommend ?
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I never anti bukit jalil property, just pointed out the cons of each project. No offence. If you think Wat I said is not a fact then don't listen. I always give negative side of comments to let ppl to judge, besides listening to beautiful lies.
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post Sep 28 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 06:18 PM)
I never anti bukit jalil property, just pointed out the cons of each project. No offence. If you think Wat I said is not a fact then don't listen. I always give negative side of comments to let ppl to judge, besides listening to beautiful lies.
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Pricing of property can be very subjective to many ppl.some just wanted the pavilion address so they grab it and don't mind paying higher. Sometime Rich ppl prioritizes what they like and not the con bro..
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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 06:13 PM)
You can use any phrases that you want, per acre, per population or plot ratio, high density means high la. Since when  higher no of lifts become selling point of a high end property?  What kind of point ? Dun twist the facts with words.
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U sure it's not a selling point? Did you ask an M&E Engineer? When you calculate the waiting time is much lesser hence this is the fact that you cannot deny.

I'm a prospect buyer. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 28 2016, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 02:53 PM)
No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro?  Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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Park 1, Park 2 and Skyluxe are all commercial title,
Measure by Plot Ratio,
Not density.

Except like HARVE and Waltz,
Both are residential title,
Measure by density
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 06:29 PM)
Generous? 10 Units per floor means 28 to 40  ppl each floor for 52 floor; means easily 1500 people in one tower if fully occupied. One lift only can take 10 to 12 ppl,  If give you 4 lift for peak hour  wanna wait for how long? Really close my eye. It's not generous,  it's bo bian, no choice,  have to compensate the load density. @#$%÷×
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I think u count wrongly or maybe ur logical thinking not so good.
Population not base on number of units but area per person or number of person per bed. So a floor with same area can be 10units can be 1unit but population can be the same. LOL

I think you dont know one lift can help to improve 5min handling capacity by alots. Thats why you think lift like nothing .


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post Sep 28 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatan @ Sep 28 2016, 03:53 PM)
No jokes bro, this malton project, very very high density 308unit / acre for high end products. Acceptable range is 200 to 260unit per acre for onw stay, ideal is less than 200unit/ acre. Expected to be damn congested, one carpark for small unit,, all so branded outlets cost of living damn high over here. How to own stay bro?  Is true, Layout and design is better than park 1 but is still dull. Personally I would prefer skyluxe or waltz than park 2. F@#×*×¥ malton, berjaya and exsim! Greedy developer.
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If uare comparing v skyluxe. Number of carpark given is the same follow sf size of unit. Same sf size unit can be 1bed can be 10bedrooms. If your carpark number refer to bedrooms . LOL

Somemore u comment park2 design better than park1...why i feel park 1 layout better than park2.. only i feel location, connection bridge, and outlooks of park2 win park1.
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post Sep 28 2016, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Sep 28 2016, 08:22 PM)
If uare  comparing v skyluxe. Number of carpark given is the same follow sf size of unit.  Same sf size unit can be 1bed can be 10bedrooms. If your carpark number refer to bedrooms . LOL

Somemore u comment park2 design better than park1...why i feel park 1 layout better than park2.. only i feel location, connection bridge, and outlooks of park2 win park1.
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Nice or not nice and personal preference is subjective. Sorry bro, I dunno you bought park1. If don't like my negative comments just ignore it. No offence.

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