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sivanathan04
post May 3 2017, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ May 2 2017, 07:01 PM)
lol..what to do,those time before gst and bad currency.brought 12nsd that time 3299 only laugh.gif
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Now can get 2nd pb2000 only if anyone kind enough to let go for 3.2k biggrin.gif terrible currency value

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post May 3 2017, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 3 2017, 07:43 AM)
Hifi ghost biggrin.gif ...lets grow together bro thumbup.gif
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Haha... hifi ghost... biggrin.gif

Rxa-70 series! Better to go for a3060 or a3070. .. wt XLR balanced input if price difference rm2-3k?

http://www.avsforum.com/yamaha-rx-a-70-ser...vers-announced/

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post May 3 2017, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ May 3 2017, 10:56 AM)
Haha... ghost hifi... biggrin.gif

Rxa-70 series! Better to go for a3060 or a3070. .. wt XLR balanced input if price difference rm2-3k?

http://www.avsforum.com/yamaha-rx-a-70-ser...vers-announced/
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Honestly, if you want a flagship AVR from Yamaha - just keep an eye out on all the clearance sales for last year's models coming up. Get the A3060 while you can, it'll be significantly cheaper than the A3070 and the difference is insignificant.

The DAC "upgrade", I don't want to touch on that. There are people who will swear that they can hear the difference between a 9026 and 9018 ESS, so... yeah.
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post May 3 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2017, 04:28 PM)
Honestly, if you want a flagship AVR from Yamaha - just keep an eye out on all the clearance sales for last year's models coming up. Get the A3060 while you can, it'll be significantly cheaper than the A3070 and the difference is insignificant.

The DAC "upgrade", I don't want to touch on that. There are people who will swear that they can hear the difference between a 9026 and 9018 ESS, so... yeah.
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Thank you for your comment bro! If that's the case do you think is it even better to get RX A3050 over RX A3060 for price difference of around RM2k now!

Here's the difference based on fact sheets... biggrin.gif

RX-A3060 Compared to the RX-A3050

Last Update: 08/17/2016

The RX-A3060 has the following advantages/differences over the RX-A3050


1. Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020:
RX-A3060 has Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020 pass-through features out of the box.
RX-A3050 needed a firmware update for Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020 pass-through.
2. New Power Amp Assign allowing 5.1.2 & Bi-Amp.
3. Extra Bass Zone for 2 & 3
4. Zone Volume Equalizer (Tone Control: Auto)
5. Precision EQ with 64-bit and 3D processing
6. New HD GUI interface.
7. USB iPod/Apple has support removed.
8. Subwoofer EQ range 15.6 Hz to 250.0 Hz. (RX-A3050 31.3 Hz to 250.0 Hz)
9. DSP program over lay on Dolby Atmos and DTS-X

Power Specifications are the same:

2-channel driven (20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.06% THD, 8 ohms) 150 W

Actually I'm keen on the EQ range down to 15.6hz... don't think the EQ range can be firmware upgraded rite?

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post May 3 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ May 3 2017, 05:11 PM)
Thank you for your comment bro! If that's the case do you think is it even better to get RX A3050 over RX A3060 for price difference of around RM2k now!

Here's the difference based on fact sheets...  biggrin.gif

RX-A3060 Compared to the RX-A3050

Last Update: 08/17/2016

The RX-A3060 has the following advantages/differences over the RX-A3050


1.  Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020:
RX-A3060 has Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020 pass-through features out of the box.
RX-A3050 needed a firmware update for Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/HDR BT.2020 pass-through.
2.  New Power Amp Assign allowing 5.1.2 & Bi-Amp.
3.  Extra Bass Zone for 2 & 3
4.  Zone Volume Equalizer (Tone Control: Auto)
5.  Precision EQ with 64-bit and 3D processing
6.  New HD GUI interface.
7.  USB iPod/Apple has support removed.
8.  Subwoofer EQ range 15.6 Hz to 250.0 Hz. (RX-A3050 31.3 Hz to 250.0 Hz)
9.  DSP program over lay on Dolby Atmos and DTS-X

Power Specifications are the same:

2-channel driven (20 Hz to 20 kHz, 0.06% THD, 8 ohms) 150 W

Actually I'm keen on the EQ range down to 15.6hz... don't think the EQ range can be firmware upgraded rite?
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Well for one, the A3050 won't have DV and HLG firmware update eventhough in theory - the hardware is capable of supporting it. So, is DV important to you?

As for the PEQ range going down to 16hz, that was the only significant upgrade over the 2015's model. But understand that you WILL have to buy a better mic that can measure down below 20hz (like an Omni6 or UMIK1), know how to use REW and know how to port the results over. The automated YPAO is still limited at 30hz due to the subpar mic Yamaha refuses to change.

If you ask me, if you have no plans for DV - the A3050 is the wiser choice. By saving near RM2k, you can use that fund to import a minidsp (or an antimode or whatever similar) and buy a good mic, learn how to use REW and you get MUCH more options and capability in how to EQ your system over what YPAO can do. A minidsp and a UMIK1 + import tax + shipping doesn't even come close to RM2k.

I have no experience with the 64bit calculation for YPAO, nor have I seen any concrete test reports on how much better it is. So, no comment on that.
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post May 3 2017, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2017, 05:26 PM)
Well for one, the A3050 won't have DV and HLG firmware update eventhough in theory - the hardware is capable of supporting it. So, is DV important to you?

As for the PEQ range going down to 16hz, that was the only significant upgrade over the 2015's model. But understand that you WILL have to buy a better mic that can measure down below 20hz (like an Omni6 or UMIK1), know how to use REW and know how to port the results over. The automated YPAO is still limited at 30hz due to the subpar mic Yamaha refuses to change.

If you ask me, if you have no plans for DV - the A3050 is the wiser choice. By saving near RM2k, you can use that fund to import a minidsp (or an antimode or whatever similar) and buy a good mic, learn how to use REW and you get MUCH more options and capability in how to EQ your system over what YPAO can do. A minidsp and a UMIK1 + import tax + shipping doesn't even come close to RM2k.

I have no experience with the 64bit calculation for YPAO, nor have I seen any concrete test reports on how much better it is. So, no comment on that.
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Thanks again for highlighting those points! Seems like a wiser choice for A3050...

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post May 4 2017, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ May 3 2017, 10:56 AM)
Haha... hifi ghost... biggrin.gif

Rxa-70 series! Better to go for a3060 or a3070. .. wt XLR balanced input if price difference rm2-3k?

http://www.avsforum.com/yamaha-rx-a-70-ser...vers-announced/
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Tech keep changing and Dolby vision still very new even 4k material less..better get the best bang of buck avr

QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2017, 05:26 PM)
Well for one, the A3050 won't have DV and HLG firmware update eventhough in theory - the hardware is capable of supporting it. So, is DV important to you?

As for the PEQ range going down to 16hz, that was the only significant upgrade over the 2015's model. But understand that you WILL have to buy a better mic that can measure down below 20hz (like an Omni6 or UMIK1), know how to use REW and know how to port the results over. The automated YPAO is still limited at 30hz due to the subpar mic Yamaha refuses to change.

If you ask me, if you have no plans for DV - the A3050 is the wiser choice. By saving near RM2k, you can use that fund to import a minidsp (or an antimode or whatever similar) and buy a good mic, learn how to use REW and you get MUCH more options and capability in how to EQ your system over what YPAO can do. A minidsp and a UMIK1 + import tax + shipping doesn't even come close to RM2k.

I have no experience with the 64bit calculation for YPAO, nor have I seen any concrete test reports on how much better it is. So, no comment on that.
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post May 5 2017, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 4 2017, 09:53 PM)
Tech keep changing and Dolby vision still very new even 4k material less..better get the best bang of buck avr
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Ya, better take your advice Master! biggrin.gif

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post May 5 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2017, 05:26 PM)
Well for one, the A3050 won't have DV and HLG firmware update eventhough in theory - the hardware is capable of supporting it. So, is DV important to you?

As for the PEQ range going down to 16hz, that was the only significant upgrade over the 2015's model. But understand that you WILL have to buy a better mic that can measure down below 20hz (like an Omni6 or UMIK1), know how to use REW and know how to port the results over. The automated YPAO is still limited at 30hz due to the subpar mic Yamaha refuses to change.

If you ask me, if you have no plans for DV - the A3050 is the wiser choice. By saving near RM2k, you can use that fund to import a minidsp (or an antimode or whatever similar) and buy a good mic, learn how to use REW and you get MUCH more options and capability in how to EQ your system over what YPAO can do. A minidsp and a UMIK1 + import tax + shipping doesn't even come close to RM2k.

I have no experience with the 64bit calculation for YPAO, nor have I seen any concrete test reports on how much better it is. So, no comment on that.
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SSJBen,
I have read up the minidsp but still a bit confuse about it.
Let say if I plan to manual adjust the PEQ in my A860. I don't have to buy the minidsp right?
Just the mic and REW to collect the data will do?
Thanks.
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post May 5 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(stilo10 @ May 5 2017, 12:13 AM)
Ya, better take your advice Master!  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Reix @ May 5 2017, 01:00 PM)
SSJBen,
I have read up the minidsp but still a bit confuse about it.
Let say if I plan to manual adjust the PEQ in my A860. I don't have to buy the minidsp right?
Just the mic and REW to collect the data will do?
Thanks.
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If you're just going to use YPAO manual and nothing else, then no - you don't need a minidsp. A minidsp is only needed if you want more control over how to EQ your system.

So yes, all you need is a capable mic and know how to use REW.
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post May 10 2017, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 5 2017, 01:13 PM)
Don't make me cry biggrin.gif ...
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QUOTE(stilo10 @ May 10 2017, 08:55 PM)
Haha... hifi ghost! biggrin.gif
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post May 11 2017, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 3 2017, 05:26 PM)
By saving near RM2k, you can use that fund to import a minidsp (or an antimode or whatever similar)
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Any chance of kastam tax if import minidsp 2x4?

stilo10
I have dspeaker antimode 8033 S-II for sale CLICK HERE. bought it from htkaki (svs distributor) a few years ago.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 11 2017, 06:27 AM)
Any chance of kastam tax if import minidsp 2x4?

stilo10
I have dspeaker antimode 8033 S-II for sale CLICK HERE. bought it from htkaki (svs distributor) a few years ago.
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I imported the mic and the minidsp separately (although minidsp was kind enough to charge them in the same shipping bill), so mic wasn't taxed. But since I got the DDRC-24, which is too expensive to escape tax - I was charged for that. I don't remember how much though, around RM300+/- I think.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ May 11 2017, 06:27 AM)
Any chance of kastam tax if import minidsp 2x4?

stilo10
I have dspeaker antimode 8033 S-II for sale CLICK HERE. bought it from htkaki (svs distributor) a few years ago.
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Newbie question..

Not sure if this is the best thread.. but am going thru AVR and soundbar to buy, then something hit me, what about movie in hard drive?

Most soundbar would require me to use optical cable, so am I correct to assume the audio from my hard drive movies will play in the soundbar?

If I get an AVR, I will connect the TV to the ARC output with astro, BD, PS4 to the AVR. Then, the hard drive still connects to TV, will the audio play thru the AVR or just the TV speakers? What about laptop, usually I connect it to the TV HDMI, if I do that will the audio play via AVR or i have to connect it to the AVR HDMI Input?

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Most soundbar would require me to use optical cable, so am I correct to assume the audio from my hard drive movies will play in the soundbar?


I assume you connect your TV out with optical cable to your soundbar optical in. Then yes, the soundbar will replace your TV speakers.

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If  get an AVR, I will connect the TV to the ARC output with astro, BD, PS4 to the AVR. Then, the hard drive still  to TV, will the audio play thru the AVR or just the TV speakers? What about laptop, usually I connect it to the TV HDMI, if I do that will the audio play via AVR or i have to connect it to the AVR HDMI Input?
If both TV and AVR support ARC. Then the sound from TV can output in AVR. Eg. The movie from your hard drive that play in the TV. Or YouTube or any streaming apps in the TV.
But all the others devices like BD, PS4, Astro, laptop that using hdmi connection have to connect to AVR hdmi input in order get sound from AVR.
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QUOTE(Reix @ May 14 2017, 03:29 PM)
I assume you connect your TV out with optical cable to your soundbar optical in. Then yes, the soundbar will replace your TV speakers.
If both TV and AVR support ARC. Then the sound from TV can output in AVR. Eg. The movie from your hard drive that play in the TV. Or YouTube or any streaming apps in the TV.
But all the others devices like BD, PS4, Astro, laptop that using hdmi connection have to connect to AVR hdmi input in order get sound from AVR.
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Awesome!!!

Thanks for the fast reply. Ok, I can continue researching for which AVR to invest in biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Senforr @ May 14 2017, 03:48 PM)
Awesome!!!

Thanks for the fast reply. Ok, I can continue researching for which AVR to invest in  biggrin.gif
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