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post May 27 2016, 01:13 PM

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A/V Receiver

Yamaha A/V Receiver *RX-V381*

5-channel 500W = 100W x 5 (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9 % THD)
Bluetooth for wireless music streaming
HDMI with HDCP2.2 (4 in/1 out)
4K Ultra HD pass-through (HDCP2.2/4K60p)

A/V Receiver with a 1 year agent warranty, made in Malaysia !!!!

FREE DELIVERY IN SINGAPORE !!!!

•What Hi-Fi Awards`2015 *****

"A superb budget amp, Yamaha’s entry-level receiver is a great way to delve into home cinema." "Best home cinema amplifier under £350"

The RXV381 is the entry-level AV receiver from Yamaha's RXV81 range. It's a great introduction to home cinema, boasting 5 channels, 4 future-proof HDMI inputs with 4K Ultra HD pass-through support, Bluetooth wireless streaming and a host of handy audio features, delivering a hugely enjoyable home cinema experience at a price that won't break the bank.

Yamaha's Virtual CINEMA DSP helps to reproduce a virtual surround sound without the need for rear satellite speakers. While with Virtual CINEMA FRONT, an additional pair of surrounds can be placed at the front as well, allowing you to simplify the layout of your room for a great deal more flexibility. Yamaha's exclusive 'Extra Bass' technology also manages to enhance the lower frequencies of your satellites and subwoofer for a richer and more powerful bass performance.

The RXV381 also features Yamaha's sophisticated YPAO multi-point room calibration system, with a microphone to measure all the speakers in your room and adjust output for the best sound. All of these features ensure the Yamaha RXV381 delivers film soundtracks with authority and detail and the natural sound that we've come to expect from Yamaha receivers. Sound field programs mimic multiple music venues, bringing extra atmosphere to games or giving movies the sound the director intended for cinema viewing.

Bluetooth technology is now included for wireless music playback from your smart device with the Yamaha Compressed Music Enhancer optimised for vivid, lively wireless sound quality. A USB port can also be found on the front panel for easy and direct digital iPod/iPhone connectivity or playback of music files letting you fully enjoy your home theatre with simplicy and ease.

Representing outstanding value for money, the RXV381 delivers all the video and audio processing prowess needed to take that first leap into home cinema.

•Channel - 5.1
•Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) - 100W (4ohms, 0.9% THD)
•Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) - 70W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
•Maximum Effective Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) (JEITA) - 135W
•Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) - -/110/130/150W
•CINEMA DSP - Yes
•DSP Programs - 17
•Compressed Music Enhancer - Yes(incl. enhancer for Bluetooth)
•SILENT CINEMA / Virtual CINEMA DSP - Yes(Virtual CINEMA FRONT)
•Dolby TrueHD - Yes
•Dolby Digital Plus - Yes
•DTS-HD Master Audio - Yes
•YPAO sound optimization - Yes
•Adaptive DRC (Dynamic Range Control) - Yes
•Initial Volume & Maximum Volume Setting - Yes
•Audio Delay - Yes (0-500 ms)
•192kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels - Yes (Burr-Brown)
•4K Ultra HD passthrough - Yes
•HDMI 3D passthrough - Yes
•HDMI Audio Return Channel - Yes
•Deep Color/x.v.Color/24Hz Refresh Rate /Auto Lip-Sync - Yes
•HDMI Input/Output - 4 / 1 (HDCP2.2, HDR and BT.2020 compatible)
•HDMI CEC - Yes
•USB Input - USB Memory, Portable Audio Player
•Bluetooth - Yes (SBC)
•Front AV Input - USB/Mini Jack
•Digital Audio Input/Output: Optical - 1 / 0
•Digital Audio Input/Output: Coaxial - 2 / 0
•Analog Audio Input/Output - 3 (front 1) / 1
•Composite Video Input/Output - 3 / 1
•Preout - SW
•Headphone Output - 1
•FM/AM Tuner - Yes
•On-screen display - Yes
•SCENE - SCENE (4 sets)
•Remote Control Unit - Yes
•Standby Power Consumption (IR only) - ≤0.3W
•Auto Power Down - Yes
•ECO mode - Yes
•Dimensions (W x H x D) - 435 x 151 x 315 mm
•Weight - 7.4 kg
•Finish: Black

Yamaha A/V Receiver *RX-V381* = S$599.00 S$569

So Singapore price is S$569 after discount. Malaysia price roughly will be ............... shocking.gif



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post May 27 2016, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 27 2016, 01:13 PM)
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A/V Receiver

Yamaha A/V Receiver *RX-V381* 

5-channel 500W = 100W x 5 (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.9 % THD)
Bluetooth for wireless music streaming
HDMI with HDCP2.2 (4 in/1 out)
4K Ultra HD pass-through (HDCP2.2/4K60p)

A/V Receiver with a 1 year agent warranty, made in Malaysia !!!!

FREE DELIVERY IN SINGAPORE !!!!

•What Hi-Fi Awards`2015 *****

"A superb budget amp, Yamaha’s entry-level receiver is a great way to delve into home cinema." "Best home cinema amplifier under £350"

The RXV381 is the entry-level AV receiver from Yamaha's RXV81 range. It's a great introduction to home cinema, boasting 5 channels, 4 future-proof HDMI inputs with 4K Ultra HD pass-through support, Bluetooth wireless streaming and a host of handy audio features, delivering a hugely enjoyable home cinema experience at a price that won't break the bank.

Yamaha's Virtual CINEMA DSP helps to reproduce a virtual surround sound without the need for rear satellite speakers. While with Virtual CINEMA FRONT, an additional pair of surrounds can be placed at the front as well, allowing you to simplify the layout of your room for a great deal more flexibility. Yamaha's exclusive 'Extra Bass' technology also manages to enhance the lower frequencies of your satellites and subwoofer for a richer and more powerful bass performance.

The RXV381 also features Yamaha's sophisticated YPAO multi-point room calibration system, with a microphone to measure all the speakers in your room and adjust output for the best sound. All of these features ensure the Yamaha RXV381 delivers film soundtracks with authority and detail and the natural sound that we've come to expect from Yamaha receivers. Sound field programs mimic multiple music venues, bringing extra atmosphere to games or giving movies the sound the director intended for cinema viewing.

Bluetooth technology is now included for wireless music playback from your smart device with the Yamaha Compressed Music Enhancer optimised for vivid, lively wireless sound quality. A USB port can also be found on the front panel for easy and direct digital iPod/iPhone connectivity or playback of music files letting you fully enjoy your home theatre with simplicy and ease.

Representing outstanding value for money, the RXV381 delivers all the video and audio processing prowess needed to take that first leap into home cinema.

•Channel - 5.1
•Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) - 100W (4ohms, 0.9% THD)
•Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) - 70W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
•Maximum Effective Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) (JEITA) - 135W
•Dynamic Power per Channel (8/6/4/2 ohms) - -/110/130/150W
•CINEMA DSP - Yes
•DSP Programs - 17
•Compressed Music Enhancer - Yes(incl. enhancer for Bluetooth)
•SILENT CINEMA / Virtual CINEMA DSP - Yes(Virtual CINEMA FRONT)
•Dolby TrueHD - Yes
•Dolby Digital Plus - Yes
•DTS-HD Master Audio - Yes
•YPAO sound optimization - Yes
•Adaptive DRC (Dynamic Range Control) - Yes
•Initial Volume & Maximum Volume Setting - Yes
•Audio Delay - Yes (0-500 ms)
•192kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels - Yes (Burr-Brown)
•4K Ultra HD passthrough - Yes
•HDMI 3D passthrough - Yes
•HDMI Audio Return Channel - Yes
•Deep Color/x.v.Color/24Hz Refresh Rate /Auto Lip-Sync - Yes
•HDMI Input/Output - 4 / 1 (HDCP2.2, HDR and BT.2020 compatible)
•HDMI CEC - Yes
•USB Input - USB Memory, Portable Audio Player
•Bluetooth - Yes (SBC)
•Front AV Input - USB/Mini Jack
•Digital Audio Input/Output: Optical - 1 / 0
•Digital Audio Input/Output: Coaxial - 2 / 0
•Analog Audio Input/Output - 3 (front 1) / 1
•Composite Video Input/Output - 3 / 1
•Preout - SW
•Headphone Output - 1
•FM/AM Tuner - Yes
•On-screen display - Yes
•SCENE - SCENE (4 sets)
•Remote Control Unit - Yes
•Standby Power Consumption (IR only) - ≤0.3W
•Auto Power Down - Yes
•ECO mode - Yes
•Dimensions (W x H x D) - 435 x 151 x 315 mm
•Weight - 7.4 kg
•Finish: Black

Yamaha A/V Receiver *RX-V381* =  S$599.00 S$569 

So Singapore price is S$569 after discount. Malaysia price roughly will be ...............  shocking.gif
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my guess is RM1600
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QUOTE(dirtrun @ May 27 2016, 08:13 AM)
The Receiver in Audio Video Receiver is supposed to be a FM receiver..

Subwoofer design is the least of your worries..
I hv a sealed Rythmik F15 - front firing and an ol SvS PB12+ - downfiring one and they sound a tad different but not to the extent tat it matters even if l use both together..
Personally room modes and subwoofer positioning should be more of a concern..

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I thought i used a wrong word. FM tuner is the correct word that I'm suppose to use.
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 27 2016, 03:01 PM)
I thought i used a wrong word. FM tuner is the correct word that I'm suppose to use.
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dont worry. got fm radio tuner.
but future may switch to internet stream liao
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 27 2016, 03:00 PM)
my guess is RM1600
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Yup roughly. Currently the cheapest for RX-V379 was around RM1399 if not mistaken. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 27 2016, 04:55 PM)
Yup roughly. Currently the cheapest for RX-V379 was around RM1399 if not mistaken.  hmm.gif
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Is reasonable price
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 26 2016, 11:26 PM)
Hi All,

Please enlighten me with a silly question. Does AVR support FM receiver? Currently using HTiB which have FM Receiver. I have a target to buy an AVR maybe in two years from now.

Another question, regarding subwoofer I just read and found out there's a various design of subwoofer. The type i read was downfire cabinet. What do you guys think of this design. Is it better when the subwoofer pump out the sound to the floor?
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As bro dirtrun already explained, sub designs don't actually sound a whole lot different from one another. They aren't tweeters, which are instantly noticeable from one design to the other.

The most important thing when choosing a sub is:

1) The placement of it (this is CRITICAL)
2) How big your space is
3) How many are you putting in the room

Ported subs will always have higher SPL than sealed subs. Doesn't matter where the driver is placed, front firing, down firing, side firing or upside down firing. Bass waves are mostly omni directional, where under 20hz you won't hear bass anymore instead you will FEEL them.

Generally people believe that sealed subs will sound more accurate than ported subs. Where ported subs will sound "slow or sloppy", uncontrolled. That's true for the toy subs made by joke companies like logitech or edifier or some "insert cool x name here" brand.


QUOTE(_gearbox_ @ May 27 2016, 08:42 AM)
hey guys.. not too sure if the Yamaha 379 or up coming 381 AV receiver could drive an old pair of speakers in my current setup to replace an aging receiver.. Quad 22L2
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I don't see why not, even though your Quads are low sensitivity.

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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 27 2016, 05:00 PM)
Is reasonable price
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Pretty much the same except in the RX-V481 series it include HDR support, 4k60hz at 4:4:4 smile.gif
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ May 27 2016, 06:12 PM)
Pretty much the same except in the RX-V481 series it include HDR support, 4k60hz at 4:4:4  smile.gif
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It does have atmos too
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 27 2016, 06:37 PM)
It does have atmos too
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Nope! 381 and 481 doesn't have ATMOS. Only 581 & above does include ATMOS. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 27 2016, 06:10 PM)
As bro dirtrun already explained, sub designs don't actually sound a whole lot different from one another. They aren't tweeters, which are instantly noticeable from one design to the other.

The most important thing when choosing a sub is:

1) The placement of it (this is CRITICAL)
2) How big your space is
3) How many are you putting in the room

Ported subs will always have higher SPL than sealed subs. Doesn't matter where the driver is placed, front firing, down firing, side firing or upside down firing. Bass waves are mostly omni directional, where under 20hz you won't hear bass anymore instead you will FEEL them.

Generally people believe that sealed subs will sound more accurate than ported subs. Where ported subs will sound "slow or sloppy", uncontrolled. That's true for the toy subs made by joke companies like logitech or edifier or some "insert cool x name here" brand.
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Thank you Bro SSJ and Dirtrun. Now I learn more new stuff. Sealed sub and port sub. May i know if YAMAHA sub good enough for movies considering it well placed in a room.

My room size about 12x10x10. The tv will placed at 12' wall and viewing distance maybe around 8-9 feet considering other furniture such as sofa.
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 27 2016, 07:13 PM)
Thank you Bro SSJ and Dirtrun. Now I learn more new stuff. Sealed sub and port sub. May i know if YAMAHA sub good enough for movies considering it well placed in a room.

My room size about 12x10x10. The tv will placed at 12' wall and viewing distance maybe around 8-9 feet considering other furniture such as sofa.
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 27 2016, 07:13 PM)
Thank you Bro SSJ and Dirtrun. Now I learn more new stuff. Sealed sub and port sub. May i know if YAMAHA sub good enough for movies considering it well placed in a room.

My room size about 12x10x10. The tv will placed at 12' wall and viewing distance maybe around 8-9 feet considering other furniture such as sofa.
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Which Yamaha sub specifically?

Hard to say if the sub will fit your room. The thing is, sub placement is often tricky because most people put it in a multi functional room, not a dedicated HT room. Furnitures, dimensions, shape of the room, all of these things can and will cause an effect of how the LFE and mid-bass frequencies are transferred around the listening area(s).

That room size is considered is considered on the "small" side. You can opt for a ported sub of course, but if you don't have the space for it (since you said you have other furniture), a nice sealed sub like the SVS SB2000 should fill the room up quite nicely in the proper position.
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 27 2016, 07:13 PM)
Thank you Bro SSJ and Dirtrun. Now I learn more new stuff. Sealed sub and port sub. May i know if YAMAHA sub good enough for movies considering it well placed in a room.

My room size about 12x10x10. The tv will placed at 12' wall and viewing distance maybe around 8-9 feet considering other furniture such as sofa.
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Sub are non directional. Basically put a sub almost any where in the room is pretty ok.
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QUOTE(capoi @ May 27 2016, 07:13 PM)
Thank you Bro SSJ and Dirtrun. Now I learn more new stuff. Sealed sub and port sub. May i know if YAMAHA sub good enough for movies considering it well placed in a room.

My room size about 12x10x10. The tv will placed at 12' wall and viewing distance maybe around 8-9 feet considering other furniture such as sofa.
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listen to 10" port sub of yamaha sw300 in friend living room. not proper calibrate yet. so so
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 28 2016, 10:57 AM)
listen to 10" port sub of yamaha sw300 in friend living room. not proper calibrate yet. so so
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Yamaha are not really good in speaker or sub
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 27 2016, 07:48 PM)
Sub are non directional. Basically put a sub almost any where in the room is pretty ok.
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Saying this will lead to confusion bro.

Bass waves are omni directional, but proper placement to deal with nulls and peaks are critical to intergrating a sub's performance. Technically it can be put anywhere in comparison to the LCR, but it should be in the location where the nulls are the least.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 28 2016, 09:42 PM)
Saying this will lead to confusion bro.

Bass waves are omni directional, but proper placement to deal with nulls and peaks are critical to intergrating a sub's performance. Technically it can be put anywhere in comparison to the LCR, but it should be in the location where the nulls are the least.
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Is true sub can be place with good location for better respond to avoid nulls. This does not mean you cannot place the sub any where in the room.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ May 28 2016, 10:57 PM)
Is true sub can be place with good location for better respond to avoid nulls. This does not mean you cannot place the sub any where in the room.
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Yes, in comparison to the LCR, the sub has more than just 1 place to be put in. Technically it can be anywhere, even inside the wall if need be, but just saying "anywhere" is not really the recommended way to go about placing a sub I think.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 28 2016, 11:23 PM)
Yes, in comparison to the LCR, the sub has more than just 1 place to be put in. Technically it can be anywhere, even inside the wall if need be, but just saying "anywhere" is not really the recommended way to go about placing a sub I think.
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Of course is also dependent on room and all but again it is correct to say any where is generally not a problem for sub

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