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post Feb 26 2016, 12:49 AM

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I would love to have the Yamaha RX-V479. Anyone knows the lowest price? icon_question.gif
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post Feb 26 2016, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Feb 26 2016, 12:49 AM)
I would love to have the Yamaha RX-V479. Anyone knows the lowest price?  icon_question.gif
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good choice below rm2k ask Sentinel92

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QUOTE(khaiandrew @ Feb 25 2016, 09:45 AM)
Sony Store the Curve, they ordered from KLCC, I got it the next day  smile.gif
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Thanks for your reply. Just called Sony@The Curv and they have the stock at their place. Going there tomorrow to get the speakers. Btw. just to double confirm, the speaker connector at the back using "banana" plug connectors?

Thanks again for your reply, appreciated. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 26 2016, 04:19 PM

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Btw. any good Sub-Woofer recommendation below RM1K?

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post Feb 26 2016, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 26 2016, 04:17 PM)
Thanks for your reply. Just called Sony@The Curv and they have the stock at their place. Going there tomorrow to get the speakers. Btw. just to double confirm, the speaker connector at the back using "banana" plug connectors?

Thanks again for your reply, appreciated. biggrin.gif

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Yes banana plugs on all the core series speakers actually.


QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 26 2016, 04:19 PM)
Btw. any good Sub-Woofer recommendation below RM1K?

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If you are gonna get a sub below 1k you might as well don't bother getting a sub. Wasting money for garbage, mostly.

If you are getting the CS3, its bass is actually quite adequate. It won't rumble your floors or tear down your walls, but will definitely give you that chest thump. Best of all, it doesn't distort like a complete mess like most cheap sub 1k subs.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 26 2016, 08:38 PM)
Yes banana plugs on all the core series speakers actually.
If you are gonna get a sub below 1k you might as well don't bother getting a sub. Wasting money for garbage, mostly.

If you are getting the CS3, its bass is actually quite adequate. It won't rumble your floors or tear down your walls, but will definitely give you that chest thump. Best of all, it doesn't distort like a complete mess like most cheap sub 1k subs.
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Again, thank you Sir for your advice. This is the advice I need instead wasting my money on cheap woofer. I guess I will stick with CS3 at the moment until I have enough $$$$ for a woofer.

Thanks again and have a good weekend thumbup.gif

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post Feb 27 2016, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 26 2016, 10:10 PM)
Again, thank you Sir for your advice. This is the advice I need instead wasting my money on cheap woofer. I guess I will stick with CS3 at the moment until I have enough $$$$ for a woofer.

Thanks again and have a good weekend  thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 26 2016, 10:10 PM)
Again, thank you Sir for your advice. This is the advice I need instead wasting my money on cheap woofer. I guess I will stick with CS3 at the moment until I have enough $$$$ for a woofer.

Thanks again and have a good weekend  thumbup.gif

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Speaker placement is important too, especially more so for floorstanders.

Generally the closer your speakers are to the wall, the more boomy the bass is and if you stick too close, it can cloud the mids and become muddy. But since the CS3 are front ported, there aren't issues with port flaring so you can adjust them more front or back towards your preference.

Experiment around, read up and do research.
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my Onkyo HTS-5300 7.1 AVR finally died on me after 4 years. Very sad. Been sending to the service shop almost annually due to burned capacitor and stuff. now thy told me one of the main board burnt and repair cost mounted to 800++. so decided to get a new AVR unit to replace it.

Been surveying and found this Yamaha RX-V379 unit. Cheapest I saw now is 1699 without the speakers. As I am using back Onkyo 7.1 (speakers). Just wanna know if any bros in here had any review on this HTB-379 unit? thanks.

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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Mar 13 2016, 09:44 PM)
my Onkyo HTS-5300 7.1 AVR finally died on me after 4 years. Very sad. Been sending to the service shop almost annually due to burned capacitor and stuff. now thy told me one of the main board burnt and repair cost mounted to 800++. so decided to get a new AVR unit to replace it.

Been surveying and found this Yamaha RX-V379 unit. Cheapest I saw now is 1699 without the speakers. As I am using back Onkyo 7.1 (speakers). Just wanna know if any bros in here had any review on this HTB-379 unit? thanks.
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very basic, work just right it design for small room
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 13 2016, 10:07 PM)
very basic, work just right it design for small room
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I just saw RX-V479 model. Seems better with additional 2 HDMI in and Wifi support too.
Maybe go for this if the price not that much of a different.
thanks for the reply.

UPDATE: Just got myself RX-V479 instead today with 5 years E.W. thumbsup.gif

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Hi newbie here using RX-V679. I need some advice on speakers setup.

1. How significant is a 5.1 vs 7.1 setup? Is it worth it especially considering that I would watch only 3 titles/year.

2. Is there a significant difference between using small surround speakers vs. larger ones?

3. Due to living room design, the most convenient location for my surround speakers is about 40/45 degrees behind listening position at 2.9m/2.5m distance. Is that ok or it would be much better to put it at 2/-2 degrees @ 2.2m/2.2m distance?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(teop @ Mar 19 2016, 12:35 AM)
Hi newbie here using RX-V679. I need some advice on speakers setup.

1. How significant is a 5.1 vs 7.1 setup? Is it worth it especially considering that I would watch only 3 titles/year.

2. Is there a significant difference between using small surround speakers vs. larger ones?

3. Due to living room design, the most convenient location for my surround speakers is about 40/45 degrees behind listening position at 2.9m/2.5m distance. Is that ok or it would be much better to put it at 2/-2 degrees @ 2.2m/2.2m distance?

Thanks.
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5.1 will do. Larger speaker is always better. SiZe does matter. The distant is best to keep within 2 meters as most likely your surround speaker size is small which is not enough if distance is far
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QUOTE(teop @ Mar 19 2016, 12:35 AM)
Hi newbie here using RX-V679. I need some advice on speakers setup.

1. How significant is a 5.1 vs 7.1 setup? Is it worth it especially considering that I would watch only 3 titles/year.

2. Is there a significant difference between using small surround speakers vs. larger ones?

3. Due to living room design, the most convenient location for my surround speakers is about 40/45 degrees behind listening position at 2.9m/2.5m distance. Is that ok or it would be much better to put it at 2/-2 degrees @ 2.2m/2.2m distance?

Thanks.
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If only watching 3 titles per yr, save your money, sell everything and go Cinema watch.
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QUOTE(stevenycs @ Mar 13 2016, 10:17 PM)
I just saw RX-V479 model. Seems better with additional 2 HDMI in and Wifi support too.
Maybe go for this if the price not that much of a different.
thanks for the reply.

UPDATE: Just got myself RX-V479 instead today with 5 years E.W.  :thumbsup:
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QUOTE(teop @ Mar 19 2016, 12:35 AM)
Hi newbie here using RX-V679. I need some advice on speakers setup.

1. How significant is a 5.1 vs 7.1 setup? Is it worth it especially considering that I would watch only 3 titles/year.

2. Is there a significant difference between using small surround speakers vs. larger ones?

3. Due to living room design, the most convenient location for my surround speakers is about 40/45 degrees behind listening position at 2.9m/2.5m distance. Is that ok or it would be much better to put it at 2/-2 degrees @ 2.2m/2.2m distance?

Thanks.
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put side will give wrap around effect.
put rear corner will give suprise attack effect.
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QUOTE(teop @ Mar 19 2016, 12:35 AM)
Hi newbie here using RX-V679. I need some advice on speakers setup.

1. How significant is a 5.1 vs 7.1 setup? Is it worth it especially considering that I would watch only 3 titles/year.

2. Is there a significant difference between using small surround speakers vs. larger ones?

3. Due to living room design, the most convenient location for my surround speakers is about 40/45 degrees behind listening position at 2.9m/2.5m distance. Is that ok or it would be much better to put it at 2/-2 degrees @ 2.2m/2.2m distance?

Thanks.
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1. Depending on how the speakers perform, a brand that spending more money on doing advertisement but using a speaker that only has the abilities to reveal 3 instruments from a source that actually having 7 instruments playing, at any 1 time a stereo setup that using speakers that has the abilities to reveal 7 instruments playing will whack a 13.1 setup.
2. same as above, size does not matters, more on how the enclosure being designed. I've DIY a speaker that using 4" driver which using tapped horn design, blind fold a self claim audiophile(that spending rm50k for a pair of midbass + tweeter), let him listen and he thought was a 10" subwoofer playing.
3. only your ears will tell you which is the best listening position, if anyone that can simply comes out a number without knowing your height, your room size, what is in that room, he is basically a dumb that pretend to be an expert.
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5.1 vs 7.1 depends so much on the room dimensions. So many people do not take into account about their room dimension and simply just add speakers, then complain that it either sounds worse or has zero improvements. The same reason why stereo can potentially sound as immersive as a 5 channel setup. More doesn't always mean better in audio.

Room is nearly as critical as the choice of speakers IMO.

In a proper room, even a 5.1.2 (or 5.2.2 preferably) setup is more immersive than a 7.1 (or 7.2 prerably) setup. A 5.2.4 setup can actually sound as good as a 7.2.2 setup even. It's all about balance and room conditions.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Mar 19 2016, 06:31 AM)
5.1 will do. Larger speaker is always better. SiZe does matter. The distant is best to keep within 2 meters as most likely your surround speaker size is small which is not enough if distance is far
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Actually I'm not using a subwoofer, so it is really a 5.0 system, right? So far I'm happy with the loudness. I feel that my floor stand works pretty well. Casual listening is at -35db and if I blast it it will be at -25db. YPAO did add 2.5/1.5db to my surround.

Though I did notice that if placed closer, the sound is more distinct and easier to pin point. Not sure if that is a good or bad attribute.

Currently the sound coming from surround sound pretty neutral, as in evenly distributed, so it does not sound overly discrete.

QUOTE(Ngto @ Mar 19 2016, 09:41 AM)
If only watching 3 titles per yr, save your money, sell everything and go Cinema watch.
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But seriously, how many title comes out in a year that is worth watching where surround matters.
The rest of the time is either mostly listening to music daily or watching TV.

QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 19 2016, 02:12 PM)
congrats bro. welcome to.yamaha
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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 19 2016, 02:15 PM)
put side will give wrap around effect.
put rear corner will give suprise attack effect.
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When you say put to the side or rear do you mean physically, change channel (from surround to surround back) or both?

If you just shift the speakers for the surround channel further back, will YPAO/DSP know about it and makes adjustments accordingly? I don't want sound that is meant for the side to come out from the rear because it was placed too further back.

QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 19 2016, 02:30 PM)
2. same as above, size does not matters, more on how the enclosure being designed. I've DIY a speaker that using 4" driver which using tapped horn design, blind fold a self claim audiophile(that spending rm50k for a pair of midbass + tweeter), let him listen and he thought was a 10" subwoofer playing.
3. only your ears will tell you which is the best listening position, if anyone that can simply comes out a number without knowing your height, your room size, what is in that room, he is basically a dumb that pretend to be an expert.
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For the speaker size, I was actually referring the small/large size terms used in the AVR setup. Full range (or not full range) speakers, I think. Sorry for that. So the question is really whether full range speakers have a big impact when used for surround. Agree that the physical speaker/enclosure size don't matter when looking at performance rather than the design is more important.

Ya, looking for accurate setup can only be done by actually testing it. I was looking more for a rule-of-thumb/general setup advice based on the experience you guys have on what will or will not work and what matter and does not matters. Otherwise I would not know where to start and what to try. Just like how an experienced wire-man can tell roughly what wire size to use without calculating.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Mar 19 2016, 05:53 PM)
5.1 vs 7.1 depends so much on the room dimensions. So many people do not take into account about their room dimension and simply just add speakers, then complain that it either sounds worse or has zero improvements. The same reason why stereo can potentially sound as immersive as a 5 channel setup. More doesn't always mean better in audio.

Room is nearly as critical as the choice of speakers IMO.

In a proper room, even a 5.1.2 (or 5.2.2 preferably) setup is more immersive than a 7.1 (or 7.2 prerably) setup. A 5.2.4 setup can actually sound as good as a 7.2.2 setup even. It's all about balance and room conditions.
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Hold on, you almost lost me with all the 3rd .number. Had to google those ceiling speakers, but I got your point.

Anyway I have my system setup in my living room, about 4.3m width x 5.9m x 3m high plaster ceiling. On my right-top half is solid brick/cement wall and the right-bottom half is open and connects to the dinning room. My listening position is in the center so I have about 3m of space behind me.

Not much in terms of furniture, bare walls and 3+2 sofa distributed on the left and right.

Thanks for all your feedback.

So I guess I'll just stick with 5.0 for now, only thing left to figure out is the surround speaker position.

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