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post Feb 16 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 16 2016, 02:43 PM)
For your budget of 1300 + 1200, the Sony HT RT5 (RM2.2k).

Will actually sound better than that craptacular Denon 1312 set.
Alternatively, you can opt for a Yamaha NSP40 system which is at least more decent than the Denon.

Again, I don't suggest you opt this route if ultimately you are going to have a full HT setup. You will lose more money in the end.

It's actually a very simple choice for your budget which I'm not sure why you are still pondering on.

2.5k budget breaks down to:
- 2x Sony SS-CS3 floorstanders (RM1200)
- 1x Yamaha V477 AVR (1.4k)
- Top up RM100

You might be asking, wth no sub?!@#!@$
The real harsh truth is that all those cheap subs you see in HTiB or AIO systems are horrendous. The CS3 floorstanders can produce bass way better than any of them, with ease.

Your path to upgrading is pretty much only limited by your wallet after this, rather than replacing EVERYTHING.
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I'll check the 2x Sony SS-CS3 floorstanders (RM1200) soon. smile.gif

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post Feb 16 2016, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Feb 16 2016, 02:35 PM)
Now as for the speakers.......bookshelf or satelite?  blush.gif
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For home theater, I would suggest to pick up speakers with frequency response covering 80Hz.
Example 50Hz - 20kHz or 80Hz - 20kHz, as long as the 80Hz frequency is coverred, then it is ok.
If the speaker cannot cover 80Hz for example 120Hz - 20kHz, more likely no bass will be produced through the speaker, not enough impact. But for surround is ok.

Some speaker packages don't cover 80Hz by its satellites, but to be handled by the subwoofer. Be careful when choosing this kind of package. Need to listen them first. Some of them may have hole in frequency, i.e gap between High Frequency and Low Frequency is too obvious. Some good packages may have all of their speakers well integrated each other.

Also need to see sensitivity. Try not to use speaker lower than 86dB because it will be power hungry, you turn high volume but still can't go loud. 86db and above should be ok. Lower sensitivity speaker like 85dB will need more powerful amplifier to drive them sufficiently.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 16 2016, 02:43 PM)
For your budget of 1300 + 1200, the Sony HT RT5 (RM2.2k).

Will actually sound better than that craptacular Denon 1312 set.
Alternatively, you can opt for a Yamaha NSP40 system which is at least more decent than the Denon.


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post Feb 16 2016, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(radovantz @ Feb 16 2016, 03:03 PM)
Wow, very good info. Thanks  thumbup.gif
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I got a strange feeling that Denon 1312 speaker set going to be craptacular anyway.... wink.gif

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Feb 16 2016, 03:24 PM)
I got a strange feeling that Denon 1312 speaker set gong to be craptacular tho....  wink.gif
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Denon speaker SC-M series is ok. SC-M series is actually using Mission parts.
Other series not sure about the quality, try avoid them smile.gif
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post Feb 16 2016, 04:41 PM

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My impressions (not review!) on the RT5 was here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=77375007

tldr; Decent at best soundbar, nothing great, but not bad either.
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hi, any one here tested/auditioned Sony SS-CS3 against Pioneer SP-FS52 (RM800/pair)? tq
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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Feb 9 2016, 04:00 PM)
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Sony SS-CS5   smile.gif
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I'm really interested with this speaker. Can recommend where can I buy? I don't want buy online though. Btw. does this speakers comes with Banana Plug connectors. The current speaker cables I have are all banana plug connectors.

Thanks everyone!

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I will use Sony speaker only if I have Sony amplifier to connect it with smile.gif
Sadly Sony amplifier is currently not available in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 17 2016, 12:03 AM)
hi, any one here tested/auditioned Sony SS-CS3 against Pioneer SP-FS52 (RM800/pair)? tq
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Everything the FS52 can do, the CS3 just does better. Tonality, transparency, neutrality, detail retrieval, soundstage, low end thump, pretty much everything, the CS3 > FS52. The only thing the FS52 beats the CS3 at is price.

RM800 vs RM1200 (pair), is the CS3 worth the extra RM400? IMO yes. The FS52 can often times struggle with very dynamic bass or very sharp treble, when any source that has these kind of load, the FS52 just can't handle the transient load and worse still, distort. The CS3? Believe me when I say this, it doesn't. Mind blowing that Sony could achieve something of such balance at this price point, on a floorstander.

tldr; The FS52 sounds constrained, dull and struggles when place side by side in comparison to the CS3, in the same environment condition, fed with the same source.


QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 17 2016, 10:43 AM)
I'm really interested with this speaker. Can recommend where can I buy? I don't want buy online though. Btw. does this speakers comes with Banana Plug connectors. The current speaker cables I have are all banana plug connectors.

Thanks everyone!

cheers
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Special order from Sony Malaysia.
Call them.

And yes, they use banana plug connections.


QUOTE(radovantz @ Feb 17 2016, 10:50 AM)
I will use Sony speaker only if I have Sony amplifier to connect it with smile.gif
Sadly Sony amplifier is currently not available in Malaysia.
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It is.
Sony is selling the DN1060 now, RM2.6k + free BDP S7200 + free MDR-1ABT headphones.

Yes you read that right, insane value.

But to be honest, I don't think the DN1060's nature of wide soundstage, laid back sound is a good match for the Core series speakers. The Core series speakers are already very neutral, in fact some might even say it's a bit too bright and on the cold side. You'd want a semi-warm receiver/amp.

If discrete amp like the TA-A1ES, you'll need to special order from them. But again, I don't think they're a good match either for the Core series speakers.
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SSJben, do you know how much is the book shelf and center? tq
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700 for CS5 (bookshelve)
500 for the CS8 (center)
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thanks, is this rrp? or we will get cheaper/any where that we can audition? biggrin.gif look good to start a 3.1 ht.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 17 2016, 05:50 PM)
700 for CS5 (bookshelve)
500 for the CS8 (center)
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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Feb 17 2016, 05:57 PM)
thanks, is this rrp? or we will get cheaper/any where that we can audition? biggrin.gif look good to start a 3.1 ht.
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That's the price from Sony and it's the only price you'll ever get, officially.
The Core Series speakers was never meant to be sold in Malaysia, but seeing there was interest, Sony just brought in a few models to gauge how well it will sell.

No retailers will have the Core series speakers for sale as Sony isn't planning to distribute them, not for now at least.

As to where can audition, only in Sony KLCC.
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As much as I loved wireless but if it's for music probably I won't care much but if it's for movies I opted for wired speakers. hmm.gif
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2.5k budget breaks down to:
- 2x Sony SS-CS3 floorstanders (RM1200)
- 1x Yamaha V477 AVR (1.4k)
- Top up RM100

Good suggestion..... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Feb 17 2016, 04:10 PM)
Everything the FS52 can do, the CS3 just does better. Tonality, transparency, neutrality, detail retrieval, soundstage, low end thump, pretty much everything, the CS3 > FS52. The only thing the FS52 beats the CS3 at is price.

RM800 vs RM1200 (pair), is the CS3 worth the extra RM400? IMO yes. The FS52 can often times struggle with very dynamic bass or very sharp treble, when any source that has these kind of load, the FS52 just can't handle the transient load and worse still, distort. The CS3? Believe me when I say this, it doesn't. Mind blowing that Sony could achieve something of such balance at this price point, on a floorstander.

tldr; The FS52 sounds constrained, dull and struggles when place side by side in comparison to the CS3, in the same environment condition, fed with the same source.
Special order from Sony Malaysia.
Call them.

And yes, they use banana plug connections.
It is.
Sony is selling the DN1060 now, RM2.6k + free BDP S7200 + free MDR-1ABT headphones.

Yes you read that right, insane value.

But to be honest, I don't think the DN1060's nature of wide soundstage, laid back sound is a good match for the Core series speakers. The Core series speakers are already very neutral, in fact some might even say it's a bit too bright and on the cold side. You'd want a semi-warm receiver/amp.

If discrete amp like the TA-A1ES, you'll need to special order from them. But again, I don't think they're a good match either for the Core series speakers.
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Thank you Sir...for replying my post. So I guess I can only buy them via Sony Store online for RM699.00. Only worried about delivery (damage to the goods) hmm.gif

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QUOTE(tharmaraj @ Feb 18 2016, 03:52 AM)
Thank you Sir...for replying my post. So I guess I can only buy them via Sony Store online for RM699.00. Only worried about delivery (damage to the goods)  hmm.gif

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or you can go to the nearest sony center to purchase them.

you know, the ones in KLCC or Midvalley.. you can call them up first to check if they're selling them.

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