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post May 14 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(pigin @ May 13 2016, 04:56 PM)
Hi All,

Who can confirm if the dashboard, steering material quality (Soft plastic) is the same across all the variants.

and if all variants will come withe the LCD instrument display?

and 7" infotainment system also standard?

im planning to get 1.8 but duno if the interior material quality will be the same across all variants.
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Be patient a little more as the official launch is next week.

Go to a showroom and touch/knock/feel/grab the exterior and interior and determine for yourself whether the materials and fittings are up to your expectations. No one can confirm the full actual specifications as the information is under embargo until the official launch and the local brochure gets distributed.

If not happy, can walk to other camp (Altis or Mazda3) or (if you're patient enough) the upcoming Peugeot 408 and new Hyundai Elantra.

Regardless of the speculations, this new Civic will set the benchmark for this class of cars in the market, it is actually that good. However, whether it satisfies your expectations, that's another question to find out in the foreseeable future. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 14 2016, 06:53 PM

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is honda's steering numb like toyota
i wan to compare with Mazda3 (feels like driving MX-5 thumbup.gif)
if numb I'm out
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post May 14 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(RalphRatedR @ May 14 2016, 06:53 PM)
is honda's steering numb like toyota
i wan to compare with Mazda3 (feels like driving MX-5 thumbup.gif)
if numb I'm out
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Based on most reviews on Usdm 2016 Civic i found out that Dual pinion electric steering wheel is well weighted, quick and precise. It gives sufficient input for the driver. But of cos Mazda performs better in this department. This civic is all rounder car between Mazda 3 and Altis. You get fun to drive handling( not as fun as M3 I suppose)and comfort that mazda doesn't have.


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post May 14 2016, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 14 2016, 05:57 PM)
There's nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged cars. It will beat NA once they get to their efficency zone. Just enjoy it and don't start racing with VW or Ford. Just drive safe. There's no prize for winning.
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True. I'm currently driving a Civic FD2 2.0. I'm not looking for a Type R, but something that sips less fuel (currently I'm averaging 10km/l city driving) and more powerful (+18hp and +22Nm) than my current car - of course it has more bells and whistles too.

With more torque on the low end, it will mean more power from standing start. I got no issues with CVT as I previously drove a Honda City VTEC 2006 - I don't need to feel the "turbo kick". Civic Turbo is a family sedan car. If you need a poweful race ready Civic, you should get a Honda Civic Type R.

If you say, need manual la, need normal autobox la, please get another car - this Civic Turbo is what I want, CVT and all.
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post May 14 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ May 14 2016, 08:23 PM)
True. I'm currently driving a Civic FD2 2.0. I'm not looking for a Type R, but something that sips less fuel (currently I'm averaging 10km/l city driving) and more powerful (+18hp and +22Nm) than my current car - of course it has more bells and whistles too.

With more torque on the low end, it will mean more power from standing start. I got no issues with CVT as I previously drove a Honda City VTEC 2006 - I don't need to feel the "turbo kick". Civic Turbo is a family sedan car. If you need a poweful race ready Civic, you should get a Honda Civic Type R.

If you say, need manual la, need normal autobox la, please get another car - this Civic Turbo is what I want, CVT and all.
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True, couldn't agree more. This car is a normal family sedan with sufficient torque for undertaking other car when you need them period.

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post May 14 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 14 2016, 05:57 PM)
There's nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged cars. It will beat NA once they get to their efficency zone. Just enjoy it and don't start racing with VW or Ford. Just drive safe. There's no prize for winning.
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Of course this civic is not built to race but it's power hike is indeed a technological bonus.

The design language of this civic leans towards a more mature audience. Since civic fb, most ricers have gone to Mazda 3 and let's hope they stay there laugh.gif
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post May 15 2016, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 14 2016, 05:57 PM)
There's nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged cars. It will beat NA once they get to their efficency zone. Just enjoy it and don't start racing with VW or Ford. Just drive safe. There's no prize for winning.
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Bro....nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged car?
Can you share what is excited for you ?
Wondering what cars you are using.
Cheers
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post May 15 2016, 07:14 AM

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Haha too late.

I already booked. I'm just deciding on the variant ..

Btw.

What's. Hydraulic rear suspension bushing and what does it do?

This post has been edited by pigin: May 15 2016, 07:16 AM
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post May 15 2016, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ May 15 2016, 07:14 AM)
Bro....nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged car?
Can you share what is excited for you ?
Wondering what cars you are using.
Cheers
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1.5 turbo with cvt and only have 220nm of torque.
Nothing to brag about.

That figure already been in malaysia long long time ago.

For eg vw jetta 1.4 tsi 160ps and 240nm of torque + superfast dsg gearbox.
Last time vw offee 88k sudah dapat lol

Heck even 508 pugeuot 1.6 thp 165ps 240nm.
Thp engine sudah how long been here ?

Vw polo gti 1.4tsi 177hp 250nm , pair wirh dsg superfast gearbox

Nothing to brag about. For car ethuasist that play with 290-300hp above, golf r , subbies, those evos ,even proton wira with evo 3 engine, 172hp 220nm seem nothing.

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post May 15 2016, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ May 15 2016, 07:43 AM)
1.5 turbo with cvt and only have 220nm of torque.
Nothing to brag about.

That figure already been in malaysia long long time ago.

For eg vw jetta 1.4 tsi 160ps and 240nm of torque + superfast dsg gearbox.
Last time vw offee 88k sudah dapat lol

Heck even 508 pugeuot 1.6 thp 165ps 240nm.
Thp engine sudah how long been here ?

Vw polo gti 1.4tsi 177hp 250nm , pair wirh dsg superfast gearbox

Nothing to brag about. For car ethuasist that play with 290-300hp above, golf r , subbies, those evos ,even proton wira with evo 3 engine, 172hp 220nm seem nothing.
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Agreed. This Civic's turbocharging is not about performance per se, but about efficiency. It's basically a 1.5L engine, but with 2.4L engine performance. It's not a VW Golf GTI, but rather a VW Golf TSI.

DSG gearbox? Yes it's fast, but not really reliable is it? You won't get asked how fast your car can go, but rather, how reliable is your gearbox? biggrin.gif

Never had any problems with my City CVT last time, and neither did my friends. I guess the CVT had a bad rep from the olden days
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post May 15 2016, 09:41 AM

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Bragging is when u claim ur better than others. Talking about performance stats and comparing is not. I don't see anyone bragging but lots of butthurters and ricers coming thick and fast.
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post May 15 2016, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(pigin @ May 15 2016, 07:14 AM)
Haha too late.

I already booked. I'm just deciding on the variant ..

Btw.

What's. Hydraulic rear suspension bushing and what does it do?
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Hydraulic bushing gives better noise reduction. Better NVH.
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post May 15 2016, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Alternation @ May 14 2016, 10:59 PM)
Of course this civic is not built to race but it's power hike is indeed a technological bonus.

The design language of this civic leans towards a more mature audience. Since civic fb, most ricers have gone to Mazda 3 and let's hope they stay there laugh.gif
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If anything, the new Civic looks way more rice than the FB.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


I think it is abundantly clear who Honda is aiming at with this design language, and it's not the mature buyers.

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post May 15 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2016, 10:30 AM)
If anything, the new Civic looks way more rice than the FB.

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I think it is abundantly clear who Honda is aiming at with this design language, and it's not the mature buyers.
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SO MUCH RICE
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post May 15 2016, 11:58 AM

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Tempting.. smile.gif
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post May 15 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldo123 @ May 15 2016, 07:14 AM)
Bro....nothing to be excited regarding turbo charged car?
Can you share what is excited for you ?
Wondering what cars you are using.
Cheers
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I think it doesn't matter which car I owned anyway. The engine is just one part of the car. There is nothing exciting about turbo charging. It's just increase efficiency on entry level.


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post May 15 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(isr25 @ May 15 2016, 09:26 AM)
Agreed. This Civic's turbocharging is not about performance per se, but about efficiency. It's basically a 1.5L engine, but with 2.4L engine performance. It's not a VW Golf GTI, but rather a VW Golf TSI.

DSG gearbox? Yes it's fast, but not really reliable is it? You won't get asked how fast your car can go, but rather, how reliable is your gearbox? biggrin.gif

Never had any problems with my City CVT last time, and neither did my friends. I guess the CVT had a bad rep from the olden days
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The fella never exprience 40k km VW engine overhaul before with a failing gearbox. So fast that it fails faster. Plus VW after sales service.. it's so horrible that you just want to disconnect with VW.
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post May 15 2016, 05:45 PM

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Our tester was an EX-L NAV model with the 1.5-liter turbo engine that produces 174 hp and 162 lb-ft of torque (the Touring model with the same engine is pictured here). Currently, that engine is only available paired with a CVT, but Honda says the turbo model will soon get the six-speed manual as an option. That doesn’t mean buyers that choose the CVT will miss out on all the fun, however. As CVTs come, Honda’s is one of the most intelligent and un-CVT-like. The transmission makes the best use of the turbo engine’s broad powerband, allowing the car to pull throughout the rev range. Throttle response is good and has relatively low turbo lag in the lower rpms. The engine feels just as at home cruising on the highway as it does at wide-open throttle. For a non-performance variant, the Civic 1.5 turbo is decently quick. A 2016 Civic turbo recorded a 0-60 time of 7.2 seconds in our tests.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-honda-...t-sedan-review/

Don't shoot the messenger(s)! whistling.gif

Honestly more worried bout CKD quality and infotainment issues.


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post May 15 2016, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(tetsu @ May 15 2016, 05:45 PM)
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-honda-...t-sedan-review/

Don't shoot the messenger(s)! whistling.gif

Honestly more worried bout CKD quality and infotainment issues.
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Then how about this official figure from Honda China...cropped from Paultan. Conflicting right...they tune higher to make US customer happier is it. sweat.gif

"Only one engine is available for the Chinese-market Civic for now – the 1.5 litre VTEC Turbo unit which produces 174 hp from 6,000 rpm and 220 Nm from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm and will go from 0-100 km/h in 8.6 seconds. As for transmissions, the Civic can be specified with a six-speed manual gearbox (the first market to pair a row-your-own transmission to the turbo mill) or a CVT."

Paultan Honda Civic China
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QUOTE(Hizami_83 @ May 15 2016, 09:04 PM)
Then how about this official figure from Honda China...cropped from Paultan. Conflicting right...they tune higher to make US customer happier is it.  sweat.gif

"Only one engine is available for the Chinese-market Civic for now – the 1.5 litre VTEC Turbo unit which produces 174 hp from 6,000 rpm and 220 Nm from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm and will go from 0-100 km/h in 8.6 seconds. As for transmissions, the Civic can be specified with a six-speed manual gearbox (the first market to pair a row-your-own transmission to the turbo mill) or a CVT."

<a href='http://<link removed>/2016/04/14/honda-civic-launched-in-china-with-1-5-litre-turbo-mill/' target='_blank'>Paultan Honda Civic China</a>
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This is the so called "official" spec from Honda. I have seen various China reviewers showing they can easily achieve <7.5s century sprint (autohome tested 7.09s). Anyway, even 8.6s is still faster than FB 2.0.

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