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post Jan 8 2021, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Jan 8 2021, 11:12 PM)
when the market finally collapse, we will see x10 or x100 or x1000 or god knows x whatever of whatever we see now.

only the businesses that are standing strong and guaranteed profiting will absorb all the money in the market.

Btw, "The New Great Depression" is going to release on 12 Jan 2021, been waiting for this. Excited!Ā  rclxm9.gif
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Death and tax are the only certainty in life.

And yet piling into vulnerable assets like stock.

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post Jan 8 2021, 11:47 PM

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just now I just scan through for updates and came across a message in public Telegram group, I think it's very well said. So I like to share for your own tinkering:

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post Jan 9 2021, 12:02 AM

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Wow most major countries indexes are green

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post Jan 9 2021, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2021, 09:09 PM)

what you are trying to do ....

is trying to identify who is who in the volume.... and who is doing what?

in all honesty ... this is terribly abused .... cos there's absolutely no point in this in charting or a trader.

You really... do not have to complicate your trade with all these short sell nonsense.

For me, it was really a pathetic excuse to explain why stocks like TG was falling to such lows earlier.. wink.gif

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Hahaha..

50 pages back it was the IB Call Warrants...🤣.



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post Jan 9 2021, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 9 2021, 12:09 AM)
Hahaha..

50 pages back it was the IB Call Warrants...🤣.
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Yup. Not a healthy way to trade/invest. Always trying to find a reason to explain why the stock they bought fell.

This round, ignoring these nonsense, they could have bought for the right simple reason using simple reasoning either with fa or TA.

No need all the nonsense of trying to drcipher/track the daily shorties.


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post Jan 9 2021, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 8 2021, 10:52 PM)
Boon kor going to buy?
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Aiyooo... dont follow me la.


Picture was drawn.. explained too...

Apa lagi mau? laugh.gif

Hold your hands? tongue.gif
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Let me answer, Boon will jump in for a trade, quick in quick out, don’t ask me how quick tongue.gif

Why: resistance line broken laa..price up, volume up, momentum there, apa lagi mau confirm? biggrin.gif

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post Jan 9 2021, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 8 2021, 10:08 PM)
Huhhhh?
Okay. Nvm. smile.gif
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Perhaps you're talking about the descending tirangle.
Be early or wait for breakout? laugh.gif
QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 9 2021, 08:03 AM)
Let me answer, Boon will jump in for a trade, quick in quick out, don’t ask me how quick  tongue.gif

Why: resistance line broken laa..price up, volume up, momentum there, apa lagi mau confirm?  biggrin.gif
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Ah! You save me from the mist. notworthy.gif

I used to buy and hold for long and I'm not familiar with TA before.
Let's see how it's going next week. laugh.gif
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post Jan 9 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 9 2021, 07:04 AM)
Yup. Not a healthy way to trade/invest. Always trying to find a reason to explain why the stock they bought fell.

This round, ignoring these nonsense, they could have bought for the right simple reason using simple reasoning either with fa or TA.

No need all the nonsense of trying to drcipher/track the daily shorties.
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Haha i give up on this. No point man, people see what they want to see.

Too bad many new bursa participants now also follow all this bullshit. The market is a big conspiracy to them, trying to take their money away 😬

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post Jan 9 2021, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 9 2021, 08:03 AM)
Let me answer, Boon will jump in for a trade, quick in quick out, don’t ask me how quick  tongue.gif

Why: resistance line broken laa..price up, volume up, momentum there, apa lagi mau confirm?  biggrin.gif
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Totally agree.
Only if we are allow to c the who's doing the trade.
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 9 2021, 08:38 AM)
Haha i give up on this. No point man, people see what they want to see.

Too bad many new bursa participants now also follow all this bullshit. The market is a big conspiracy to them, trying to take their money away 😬
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Exactly!!!
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post Jan 9 2021, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Jan 8 2021, 04:40 PM)
We'll know soon when the net report out.... But of course i hope they cant cover finished........if half of 150mil share still there end of today then very very good liao  biggrin.gif
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incr... from 156mil (1.91%) to 191mil (2.34%)!
https://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/missftp/...ion20210108.pdf

1.66% more to go, will be fun next week.

QUOTE(skty @ Jan 8 2021, 11:12 PM)
when the market finally collapse, we will see x10 or x100 or x1000 or god knows x whatever of whatever we see now.

only the businesses that are standing strong and guaranteed profiting will absorb all the money in the market.

Btw, "The New Great Depression" is going to release on 12 Jan 2021, been waiting for this. Excited!  rclxm9.gif
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it will come... gotta have some reserves at anytime, ready for that!
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post Jan 9 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 9 2021, 08:03 AM)
Let me answer, Boon will jump in for a trade, quick in quick out, don’t ask me how quickĀ  tongue.gif

Why: resistance line broken laa..price up, volume up, momentum there, apa lagi mau confirm?Ā  biggrin.gif
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Aiyoh.... i thought you be better than this. Don't turn this into me mah... it doesn't matter what I do or what I don't, yes? Matter is the issue itself. If you turn it into me... lol... this macam local politics. Good meh? Come..... console.gif

Ahem... I don't do resistance line la. Resistance line and the trend line is so different, so different... Mentioned it b4... so not gonna repeat it.

Anyway, just for your info. When I made that simulation idea trade on TopGlove, I was pretty much sincere and it was how I would have traded the stock IF I was really interested in TG. ( And also for your info, I did not buy any glove stocks yesterday. )

Which is why I said 'I had already drawn the picture ...'

Reference: post #41207

I will just paste the main part here................

1. Buying a stock just b4 it goes ex dividend.

Best one to TEST it out is Top Glove.

Point is, you need to test such ideas/insinuations out. Recently Maybank, went ex-dividend. Look at Maybank now... it's been sliding since then. So you would have gotten the dividend but since the market readjusts the price for the dividend, the stock automatically trades lower.

so test it out. Mark 6.70 as your buying price. Come back one month later. See the result. ( As of now, this was clearly a bad idea. Always is. Unless you are a long term trader, chasing the stock for dividends is always a bad idea. Yup. Besides testing out good ideas, I run a lot of tests on bad ideas too.)


2. Since we are on Top Gove, lol ... the unloved scape goat.. tongue.gif ... you can actually run 2 test simulations.

Technically it's trading within a descending triangle ... but since the stock has been trading right along the trend line, suggesting ... just maybe it could breakout from the descending triangle ( google that phrase - descending tirangle) , perhaps a trading buy is possible. In which there's 2 ways you can trade it...

a. Being early ... you reckon you sure it will breakout... so you want to be ahead of the crowd and you want a cheaper price... so you buy now. So mark that 6.70 as a DOUBLE trader in your book. ( Descending triangle is always bearish in nature. Unless one sees the breakout itself, being early is NEVER a good idea)

b. You wait for the breakout ... any price above 6.80, you need the volume to justify your trade... so if it breakouts with volume, mark 6.80 as your other trade.

AND OF COURSE, there's still the other option... since it's descending triangle, by technical definition it is bearish. So unless you see the breakout, you will have ZERO trade... lol ... in real life... you make your money rot in the bank for a while more.... hehehe

(the breakout point of course changed. When Syie9^_^ shouted for the chart at 3.15pm, see post #43638 , the chart posted showed clearly the breakout. The volume is of course the most important. Without it, one could fall what folks refer to as a failed breakout. But that was the breakout. A potential buy point from a traders point of view)


the 'live' chart as at 3.30pm yesterday.....

user posted image

Written out 3 possible scenario to trade, no? The correct and obvious one was the 3rd option. Which coincidently is the same as what we saw in MI recently. MI too had a descending triangle. Stock broke out of the triangle and rebounded. Same same.

And from a FA point of view, that day, Stock was at 5.46 when TG announced 70%. Math simple lor. 10 bil estimated profits. So roughly 7.5 billion profit is the size of the cake. Out of it, 70% will be returned. Shareholder base around 8.2 billion. Count lo the DY. Was that not a valid reason to buy?

Two simple reason to buy... no BS on vaccines la, covid cases, no call warrants la, no short selling la ....



Stay focus and keep it simple.

okay bo?

This post has been edited by Boon3: Jan 9 2021, 09:42 AM
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post Jan 9 2021, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Jan 8 2021, 03:56 PM)
Ok now I know I should address you as Boon kor smile.gif
Well I did ask you whether you got buy Smax or TG the other day. Still cannot entice you to join our campkah?  nod.gif
I thought your strength in chart reading will give you an added advantage in such momentum play.
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Going thru some stuff then I remembered you .... laugh.gif

This one ....

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 9 2021, 09:35 AM)
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Aiyoh.... i thought you be better than this. Don't turn this into me mah... it doesn't matter what I do or what I don't, yes? Matter is the issue itself. If you turn it into me... lol... this macam local politics. Good meh? Come.....  console.gif

Ahem... I don't do resistance line la. Resistance line and the trend line is so different, so different... Mentioned it b4... so not gonna repeat it.

Anyway, just for your info. When I made that simulation idea trade on TopGlove, I was pretty much sincere and it was how I would have traded the stock IF I was really interested in TG. ( And also for your info, I did not buy any glove stocks yesterday. )

Which is why I said 'I had already drawn the picture ...'

Reference: post #41207

I will just paste the main part here................

1. Buying a stock just b4 it goes ex dividend.

Best one to TEST it out is Top Glove.

Point is, you need to test such ideas/insinuations out. Recently Maybank, went ex-dividend. Look at Maybank now... it's been sliding since then. So you would have gotten the dividend but since the market readjusts the price for the dividend, the stock automatically trades lower.

so test it out. Mark 6.70 as your buying price. Come back one month later. See the result. ( As of now, this was clearly a bad idea. Always is. Unless you are a long term trader, chasing the stock for dividends is always a bad idea. Yup. Besides testing out good ideas, I run a lot of tests on bad ideas too.)


2. Since we are on Top Gove, lol ... the unloved scape goat.. tongue.gif ... you can actually run 2 test simulations.

Technically it's trading within a descending triangle ... but since the stock has been trading right along the trend line, suggesting ... just maybe it could breakout from the descending triangle ( google that phrase - descending tirangle) , perhaps a trading buy is possible. In which there's 2 ways you can trade it...

a. Being early ... you reckon you sure it will breakout... so you want to be ahead of the crowd and you want a cheaper price... so you buy now. So mark that 6.70 as a DOUBLE trader in your book. ( Descending triangle is always bearish in nature. Unless one sees the breakout itself, being early is NEVER a good idea)

b. You wait for the breakout ... any price above 6.80, you need the volume to justify your trade... so if it breakouts with volume, mark 6.80 as your other trade.

AND OF COURSE, there's still the other option... since it's descending triangle, by technical definition it is bearish. So unless you see the breakout, you will have ZERO trade... lol ... in real life... you make your money rot in the bank for a while more.... hehehe

(the breakout point of course changed. When Syie9^_^ shouted for the chart at 3.15pm, see post #43638 , the chart posted showed clearly the breakout. The volume is of course the most important. Without it, one could fall what folks refer to as a failed breakout. But that was the breakout. A potential buy point from a traders point of view)


the 'live' chart as at 3.30pm yesterday.....

user posted image

Written out 3 possible scenario to trade, no? The correct and obvious one was the 3rd option. Which coincidently is the same as what we saw in MI recently. MI too had a descending triangle. Stock broke out of the triangle and rebounded. Same same.

And from a FA point of view, that day, Stock was at 5.46 when TG announced 70%. Math simple lor. 10 bil estimated profits. So roughly 7.5 billion profit is the size of the cake. Out of it, 70% will be returned. Shareholder base around 8.2 billion. Count lo the DY. Was that not a valid reason to buy?

Two simple reason to buy... no BS on vaccines la, covid cases, no call warrants la, no short selling la ....
Stay focus and keep it simple.

okay bo?
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Okay my apologies I take back what I said smile.gif , and thanks for taking the time to explain your TA on TG thumbup.gif
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(MedElite23 @ Jan 9 2021, 09:57 AM)
Okay my apologiesĀ  I take back what I saidĀ  smile.gif , and thanks for taking the time to explain your TA on TGĀ  thumbup.gif
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Hahaha... no problem la. Not that small gas la.

Anyway, I am not a fan for TG and I have stated my reasons for it... but calling it as it is ..... the rebound/trend reversal/ is here ....
if one is IN then congrats la. thumbup.gif


Nah.... was updating some charts.... share 2 with you...
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 9 2021, 11:05 AM)
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Aiyoh.... i thought you be better than this. Don't turn this into me mah... it doesn't matter what I do or what I don't, yes? Matter is the issue itself. If you turn it into me... lol... this macam local politics. Good meh? Come.....  console.gif

Ahem... I don't do resistance line la. Resistance line and the trend line is so different, so different... Mentioned it b4... so not gonna repeat it.

Anyway, just for your info. When I made that simulation idea trade on TopGlove, I was pretty much sincere and it was how I would have traded the stock IF I was really interested in TG. ( And also for your info, I did not buy any glove stocks yesterday. )

Which is why I said 'I had already drawn the picture ...'

Reference: post #41207

I will just paste the main part here................

1. Buying a stock just b4 it goes ex dividend.

Best one to TEST it out is Top Glove.

Point is, you need to test such ideas/insinuations out. Recently Maybank, went ex-dividend. Look at Maybank now... it's been sliding since then. So you would have gotten the dividend but since the market readjusts the price for the dividend, the stock automatically trades lower.

so test it out. Mark 6.70 as your buying price. Come back one month later. See the result. ( As of now, this was clearly a bad idea. Always is. Unless you are a long term trader, chasing the stock for dividends is always a bad idea. Yup. Besides testing out good ideas, I run a lot of tests on bad ideas too.)


2. Since we are on Top Gove, lol ... the unloved scape goat.. tongue.gif ... you can actually run 2 test simulations.

Technically it's trading within a descending triangle ... but since the stock has been trading right along the trend line, suggesting ... just maybe it could breakout from the descending triangle ( google that phrase - descending tirangle) , perhaps a trading buy is possible. In which there's 2 ways you can trade it...

a. Being early ... you reckon you sure it will breakout... so you want to be ahead of the crowd and you want a cheaper price... so you buy now. So mark that 6.70 as a DOUBLE trader in your book. ( Descending triangle is always bearish in nature. Unless one sees the breakout itself, being early is NEVER a good idea)

b. You wait for the breakout ... any price above 6.80, you need the volume to justify your trade... so if it breakouts with volume, mark 6.80 as your other trade.

AND OF COURSE, there's still the other option... since it's descending triangle, by technical definition it is bearish. So unless you see the breakout, you will have ZERO trade... lol ... in real life... you make your money rot in the bank for a while more.... hehehe

(the breakout point of course changed. When Syie9^_^ shouted for the chart at 3.15pm, see post #43638 , the chart posted showed clearly the breakout. The volume is of course the most important. Without it, one could fall what folks refer to as a failed breakout. But that was the breakout. A potential buy point from a traders point of view)


the 'live' chart as at 3.30pm yesterday.....

user posted image

Written out 3 possible scenario to trade, no? The correct and obvious one was the 3rd option. Which coincidently is the same as what we saw in MI recently. MI too had a descending triangle. Stock broke out of the triangle and rebounded. Same same.

And from a FA point of view, that day, Stock was at 5.46 when TG announced 70%. Math simple lor. 10 bil estimated profits. So roughly 7.5 billion profit is the size of the cake. Out of it, 70% will be returned. Shareholder base around 8.2 billion. Count lo the DY. Was that not a valid reason to buy?

Two simple reason to buy... no BS on vaccines la, covid cases, no call warrants la, no short selling la ....
Stay focus and keep it simple.

okay bo?
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shocking.gif spot on shout? shocking.gif I was just BBBUUU for fun, never have pun intended sweat.gif
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post Jan 9 2021, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jan 9 2021, 10:12 AM)
shocking.gif spot on shout? shocking.gif I was just BBBUUU for fun, never have pun intended sweat.gif
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hmm.gif ...... bruffer !!

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post Jan 9 2021, 10:22 AM

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this was talked about the other day....

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hmm.gif  ...... bruffer !!

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