i mean is ppl wont even bother to do research before hand, at least u do some shortlisting. Most ppl here when want to buy TV, just go harvey norman, then say wan buy TV, then all is let salesman bring u fly kite lol. like if u dunno samsung no dolby vision, then u go for samsung, then u missed out dolby vision. yeah some ppl may think it is not important, but i can say dolby vision vs HDR10 difference is there, dolby vision HDR is much more realistic lighting if u watch in dark room and the video is properly mastered, thats y OLED benefit much from it.

i wont even bother about TV sound quality lol, prefer proper speakers setup.

from my experienced , i do noticed some people when searching for a tv , the first thing they asked - what is the cheapest tv for lets say 55' , after a while when they already bought it , they will complaint here and there plus will said this brand not good

Most people wouldnt know unless 1) they are already used to dolby vision, 2) they have 2 different TV at the same time (one w dv vs one without) that they can tell the difference side by side. I'm not saying DV is bad, the fact is its the standard now when it comes to HDR, but most consumers would struggle to point out the difference

As long the image looks good to your eyes is all that matters. To hell with image accuracy, yeah I'm gonna get flamed for this but in the end you buy your TV to enjoy according to what your eyes perceive. First week I have my TV, i set it up accordingly to have the most accurate settings, ok not bad I thought, image look good. Then onwards I started playing around with settings that are deemed illegal by enthuasiast (eg: Contrast Enhancer etc), and to me the image looked even better. Yes its probably not accurate at this point but damm I just like how it looks and everyone will be wowed by it as well

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 19 2023, 03:54 PM

Most ppl these days : SONY saja Old brand trusted ada warranty Android TV jem jem works with PS5 !!

This post has been edited by TongCN: Sep 19 2023, 02:18 PM

Tell me about it bro. I have a friend who a few years ago kept asking me about "the best tv to buy". He was a fan of Sony Tvs (he had an old trinitron from the late '90s). At that time I suggested him to get the LG Oled which was the best tv available locally. Then when I went to his house for house warming, saw a brand new LG LCD tv (basically the worst tv you can buy at that time). He some more can say that he bought it based on my recommendation.
Bro, I told you to buy LG Oled not LG's IPS tv.

This post has been edited by gobiomani: Sep 19 2023, 05:26 PM

LG already correct but he should ask you first , which model he should go for .. oh well

Actually Dolby Vision came out a year before HDR10 on 2014. It is actually not just a standard but an "absolute standard" for HDR format. It's already capable of mastering up to peak brightness of 10,000 nits and 12 bit depth representing 68.7 billion colors (of course there are no commercially available display that can support 12 bit yet) vs 10 bit 1.07 billion on the HDR10, dynamic vs static metadata.

Basically, what Dolby created is a mastering workflow for content creators so contents displayed can be as consistent as possible across so many TV brands that come with Dolby Vision with Samsung being an exception. So it's up to the TV to display the contents based on different tone map, brightness clipping, roll-off and etc capabilities. You can read up more why there is a need for absolute standard when contents slowly shift from SDR (normally display with 100 nits capabilities CRT last time) to HDR.

Not saying using contrast enhancer or saturated color is wrong, you can adjust whatever that fits your viewing experience for the wow factor. But for me, I can definitely tell DV vs HDR10 even on the same set of TV, even more so on OLED TVs and personally feel much more satisfied knowing I am viewing a well mastered content. Haha.

Agree with what you said above but correct me if I'm wrong with the bolded part - it doesnt matter if the content is mastered with Dolby Vision or not, in the end when its displayed to the consumers (our TVs), it boils down to how the TV process the image. I've seen so many reported cases where a TV's Dolby Vision profile is not displaying the accuracy that was expected, ending up the users still have to do their own tweaks to get the best picture. The metadata is still there which is better than none, but its not always fully utilised depending on the TV model and the user

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 19 2023, 09:17 PM

Well, all TVs have their own flaws, there is no perfect TVs or perfect tone map processing. That's why it's very important to use the correct presets for SDR, HDR10, DV mode. My post above is actually more to why the need for Dolby Vision as the consistent standard across displays if you know more about HDR10 and SDR standard.

Best picture according to and expected as in? For the most of us including me myself, we don't even have that super expensive reference display and reference monitor like Sony HX310 the one Vincent Teoh uses. So how do we know for a fact that it's half or fully utilized, DV picture accurate or not? If you want to talk about picture accuracy, you need reference, you need to calibrate your TV with colorimeter and pattern generators. Then calibrate greyscale and color using 1D and 3D LUT, then check for RGB balance and delta error. Then use the correct calibrated preset and view your content. That's an entire topic for another day and that's the best you can do. There will always be issues like black crush, stutter, judder and so forth depending on contents (not saying tweaking is wrong, I myself also tweak a bit here and there), but I still prefer to adhere to a standard than totally none lo.

TLDR: There is no right or wrong to be honest la, it's completely fine if you like what you are viewing. Peace.

This post has been edited by Kahlamx: Sep 19 2023, 10:30 PM

Accuracy is important.

I just got done installing and calibrating the new 77" G3 in my room. Over the last 2 weekends, I've managed to convert every single snob who previously only believed in "adjust settings to personal preference because, my TV I like la".

Ignorance is bliss. You don't know how lifelike an image is until you see it calibrated to an industry reference point.

Yes while the whole "my TV, my settings, I like" argument is still valid, you don't know what you're missing out until you see what a calibrated display looks like.

is there any good movie streaming apps that I can get on WebOS? Something like Popcorn, Fmovies of Bflix?

Ok, at first try 2 sellers at Shopee.

After ping pong for a week, they say Samsung QN90C 43-inch out of stock & discontinued model.

So, confirm if want to buy Samsung / LG, need to buy early of year, especially for uncommon sizes.

Near end of year, confirm habis stock and they discontinue to make way for next year model..

Just when I already locked in on a preferred TV replacement. Haizzz...

At least their phones still can buy old models. Cant see why TV so limited stock...

This post has been edited by wiki47: Sep 22 2023, 02:42 PM

i guess it's worth to wait until jan 2024 , by then new models coming up , then decide which one

Hahaha. already buy the 2nd choice: Gigabyte M32U.

New model not sure if better or worse than QN90C and for sure sell at even higher price. And even then, not confirm if new model got 43" or not.

yes you're right btw congratulations on the newly bought gigabyte m32u

I am trying to get OLED TV 65". Seek for few brands with almost same price.
1. LG G3 ... 2 yrs warranty.
2. LG C3 ... 3 yrs warranty.
3. Sony A80L ... 3 yrs warranty.
4. 65", should I get the 8K QLED?

My thinking here is, if LG build the good quality product, then I am safe to pick LG C3. Else, I should take C3 with 3 yrs warranty.
Sony I heard 4k upscaling is very good. Does it better than LG? I only concern is they said A80L not so bright and anti-reflection no good.

All sifu, need your advice.

Get the LG G3 for the MLA technology.

G3 is a no brainer in your list there. Its a high end OLED with the latest tech (MLA) compared with others which are just mid range. If you can afford it then go for it. Alternatively you may consider Sony A95L with QD OLED. There's on going early bird promo now with free PS5

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 26 2023, 02:47 PM

Thanks.. I worry the OLED burn in as well.. Hope to get 3 yrs warranty. That's why in dilemma.

About A95L, that is close to rm20k .. too much. My budget around rm10k, that can get TVs listed above.

I dont think our warranty here covers burn in though. Better check to be sure

G3 65" is already around 14 - 15k+ no? In Sony thread someone managed to get a price of 18k for A95L with free PS5

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 26 2023, 08:40 PM