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post Sep 30 2019, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 30 2019, 12:15 PM)
Why B9 ?
Since last year the " B " series have been getting downgrades quietly , although some of the downgrades were fairly subtle .

I have noticed the brightness levels have gone down , CPU downgraded , the remaining features have also been somewhat restricted , eg : the quad step noise reduction and gradient smoothing.

LG is well aware their B series has been competing with the C series and has been deliberately delaying the launch of the B series towards the end of the year .
In 2019 , the B9 is quite a bit inferior than the flagship C,E,W series , especially with the removal of autocal supports and reduced color accuracy from 3D L.U.T with less reference points.
As shown in the latest rting review , B9 does not go through the more elaborated factory calibration as it is highly inaccurate Out of the box . ( but that is one unit , my source of information does not come from rtings )
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based on rtings rate, B9 still score 8.8 compare to C9 9.0. The rating between these 2 models for the movie performance (HDR or SDR) are almost the same...i want to see the real life picture quality vs the price before move on smile.gif
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post Sep 30 2019, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 30 2019, 01:07 PM)
based on rtings rate, B9 still score 8.8 compare to C9 9.0. The rating between these 2 models for the movie performance (HDR or SDR) are almost the same...i want to see the real life  picture quality vs the price before move on  smile.gif
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Doesn't matter how much it scores , rting ignores a lot of the contemporary issues of the TVs.

It is made for people who is not picky about picture quality but ultimately going for the cheapest models.
Almost every TV review is basically repeating itself in the same description .

If that's what you are looking for , why even bother to buy an OLED TV to begin with ? They will never beat the LCD TV when it comes to sheer price and screen brightness .



It is kind of sad when you throw rting's scores in my face when I am telling you problems outside of their review scores exist .
For eg : they did not cover any of the more severe issues from C8 , such as the HDR brightness fluctuation and the near black macro blocking . ( almost all of them have been fixed by LG 's engineers on the C, E , W series )

Again , whatever that floats your boat . I am just saying so if other people are buying TVs they are well aware of the problems and look further than the silly scoring from rtings .

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 3 2019, 06:54 AM
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post Sep 30 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 30 2019, 08:50 PM)
Doesn't matter how much it scores , rting ignores a lot of the contemporary issues of the TVs.

It is made for people who is not picky about picture quality but ultimately going for the cheapest models.
Almost every TV review is basically repeating itself in the same description .

If that's what you are looking for , why even bother to buy an OLED TV to begin with ? They will never beat the LCD TV when it comes to sheer price and screen brightness .
It is kind of sad when you throw rting's scores in my face when I am telling you problems outside of their review scores exist .
For eg : they did not cover any the more severe issue from C8  , such as the HDR brightness fluctuation and the near black macro blocking . ( almost all of them have been fixed by LG 's engineers on the C, E , W series )

Again , whatever that floats your boat . I am just saying so if other people are buying TVs  they are well aware of the problems and look further than the silly scoring from rtings .
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I’m not technical expert on tv...I only can based on internet review, rating and comment to judge. This Is the reason why I want to view it with my own eye to compare once product available smile.gif
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QUOTE(fuadfadz @ Sep 29 2019, 10:29 AM)
hi guys, i'm looking for the cheapest c8 that i can get here. so far i found 5.6k. if you guys found cheaper let me know
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There's a shop in Shopee offering it for RM5,200 (OfficePlus).

I'm extremely tempted to take the plunge.
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QUOTE(wira1979 @ Oct 1 2019, 10:34 AM)
There's a shop in Shopee offering it for RM5,200 (OfficePlus).

I'm extremely tempted to take the plunge.
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wow. will looked into it thanks!
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post Oct 2 2019, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Sep 30 2019, 08:50 PM)
Doesn't matter how much it scores , rting ignores a lot of the contemporary issues of the TVs.

It is made for people who is not picky about picture quality but ultimately going for the cheapest models.
Almost every TV review is basically repeating itself in the same description .

If that's what you are looking for , why even bother to buy an OLED TV to begin with ? They will never beat the LCD TV when it comes to sheer price and screen brightness .
It is kind of sad when you throw rting's scores in my face when I am telling you problems outside of their review scores exist .
For eg : they did not cover any the more severe issue from C8  , such as the HDR brightness fluctuation and the near black macro blocking . ( almost all of them have been fixed by LG 's engineers on the C, E , W series )

Again , whatever that floats your boat . I am just saying so if other people are buying TVs  they are well aware of the problems and look further than the silly scoring from rtings .
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Bro, what do you think about Sony 65 inch a8f? Looks like this 2018 model have stock most of the places, with price at 10k+-...compare with c9? I couldn’t find c8 at my place (non display model)
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post Oct 2 2019, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 2 2019, 07:41 PM)
Bro, what do you think about Sony 65 inch a8f? Looks like this 2018 model have stock most of the places, with price at 10k+-...compare with c9? I couldn’t find c8 at my place (non display model)
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Ultimately the A8F is still an OLED TV , which means it retains all the excellent picture quality you can expect from OLED screen.


Just between the consumers , I really wouldn't recommend anyone to get an A8F .

It has tonnes of issues remain unfixed by Sony including its raised Dolby Vision black levels , near black flashing / macro blocking noise , ultra aggressive screen dimming , no HDR dynamic tone mapping functions etc etc .
The input latency is also rather high compare to other brands , if you plan to game on it .



Unless you can find one unit that is really cheap ( like someone found a 65 " going for RM7999 couple of months ago ) , I would advice against buying one.
If you are going to spend a lot of money on an OLED TV , get the A9F or A9G instead .


It is getting close to the end of the year and CES 2020 is coming soon , which is when TV brands usually unveil their new line up .
So if you are waiting for the big discount on C9 , it should be happening soon .

This post has been edited by Convael: Oct 2 2019, 08:46 PM
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post Oct 2 2019, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 2 2019, 08:40 PM)
Ultimately the A8F is still an OLED TV , which means it retains all the excellent picture quality you can expect from OLED screen.
Just between the consumers ,  I really wouldn't recommend anyone to get an A8F .

It has tonnes of issues remain unfixed by Sony including its raised Dolby Vision black levels , near black flashing / macro blocking noise , ultra aggressive screen dimming , no HDR dynamic tone mapping functions etc etc .
The input latency is also rather high compare to other brands , if you plan to game on it .
Unless you can find one unit that is really cheap ( like someone found a 65 " going for RM7999 couple of months ago ) ,  I would advice against buying one.
If you are going to spend a lot of money on an OLED TV , get the A9F or A9G instead .
It is getting close to the end of the year and CES 2020 is coming soon , which is when TV brands usually unveil their new line up .
So if you are waiting for the big discount on C9 , it should be happening soon .
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Thank you for your feedback, I will skip a8f smile.gif

Usually the new model will only hit Malaysia market on q3 (June - aug), do you think they will give a big discount on this year end? By the way, I just realized the price for c9 65inch just increase 2k compare to last month doh.gif , the reason given was promotion for sept was ended blush.gif
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post Oct 3 2019, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 2 2019, 08:52 PM)
Thank you for your feedback, I will skip a8f  smile.gif

Usually the new model will only hit Malaysia market on q3 (June - aug), do you think they will give a big discount on this year end? By the way, I just realized the price for c9 65inch just increase 2k compare to last month doh.gif , the reason given was promotion for sept was ended  blush.gif
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They should because that is usually when people got their big bonus to spend on the more expensive electronics .

I recalled the C8 55 " dropping below $7k and 65 " hovering around $11-12k with free sound bar during the X'mas last year.


The thing with C9 is they are still facing competition from their predecessor . Sales from C8 is still strong and the HDMI 2.1 features are , apparently not very much of a reason to upgrade for many people .
Maybe things will change in the future when they actually have more devices that can truly benefit from the updated HDMI 2.1 ports .

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post Oct 3 2019, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 3 2019, 07:12 AM)
They should because that is usually when people got their big bonus to spend on the more expensive electronics .

I recalled the C8 55 " dropping below $7k  and 65 " hovering around  $11-12k with free sound bar during the X'mas last year.
The thing with C9 is they are still facing competition from their predecessor . Sales from C8 is still strong and the HDMI 2.1 features are , apparently not very much of a reason to upgrade for many people .
Maybe things will change in the future when they actually have more devices that can truly benefit from the updated HDMI 2.1 ports .
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thanks again. like what you say, hopefully they can drop the price below 12k on this coming Dec, i dont need soundbar but price drop smile.gif
will wait for it.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Oct 2 2019, 08:40 PM)
Unless you can find one unit that is really cheap ( like someone found a 65 " going for RM7999 couple of months ago ) ,  I would advice against buying one.

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The crazy thing is, i found 75" samsung Q9fn going for rm17k 3 days ago. Same location

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Rm7999 c8 is display unit tho. Should be 1000 hours on it becauSe salesman say 3 months unit with 12 hours clocked in daily

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QUOTE(mois @ Oct 3 2019, 08:41 AM)
The crazy thing is, i found 75" samsung Q9fn going for rm17k 3 days ago. Same location

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Rm7999 c8 is display unit tho. Should be 1000 hours on it becauSe salesman say 3 months unit with 12 hours clocked in daily
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too risky to buy OLED display unit....we never know what content they display all the time...
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 3 2019, 09:05 AM)
too risky to buy OLED display unit....we never know what content they display all the time...
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Yea that is what i thought. But the q9fn really cheap. 75" going for 17k.
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post Oct 4 2019, 07:19 PM

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Finally, bought the 65c9 at homedec event with 11k++ , free lg kp7. Will receive it by tomorrow biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(mois @ Oct 3 2019, 09:11 AM)
Yea that is what i thought. But the q9fn really cheap. 75" going for 17k.
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I think the q90r would be a good compromise due to the wide angle filter compared to the q9fn. But the price has not dropped for the series as yet.
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 4 2019, 07:19 PM)
Finally, bought the 65c9 at homedec event with 11k++ , free lg kp7. Will receive it by tomorrow  biggrin.gif
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Good price for a 65in 2019 OLED. Hv fun. The 2017 C7 just received an update so it's good to know that LG still supports it well after 2 yrs. I believe they are still issuing firmware updates to the 2016 range as well so u r set for some time.
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 4 2019, 07:19 PM)
Finally, bought the 65c9 at homedec event with 11k++ , free lg kp7. Will receive it by tomorrow  biggrin.gif
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Wow this is very good price, currently looking for 65" OLED TV as well, the LG KP7 is soundbar?
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Oct 6 2019, 12:29 AM)
Wow this is very good price, currently looking for 65" OLED TV as well, the LG KP7 is soundbar?
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Nope, is portable Bluetooth speaker.
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Guys, any idea how to Key in Chinese word in lg YouTube app? Im added Chinese pinyin in keyboard setting, but I found no way to call out the soft keyboard in YouTube app, but no issue in internet browser
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Oct 6 2019, 07:07 AM)
Guys, any idea how to Key in Chinese word in lg YouTube app? Im added Chinese pinyin in keyboard setting, but I found no way to call out the soft keyboard in YouTube app, but no issue in internet browser
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You can't , either the Youtube team has decided to forbid the feature or they have completely overlooked it .



The youtube TV app is really lackluster, you can't even read the comments posted by the users on the TV apps .
Same thing is happening on Samsung 's YT TV app as well .


One way to go around this is to search for the result on PC or via Mobile phone and look through your search history on TV ( do make sure your youtube TV app are linked ) .


The other way is to change the entire APP language setting into Chinese , that should allow you to input Chinese language from the search bar.

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