Appartamento does not have PID and is terribly expensive for what it offers, among Italian machines. For example, Quickmill Rubino or Lelit Mara X are cheaper HX machines. I was contemplating the Quickmill Sunny, which is priced closed to the Appartamento. It has a thermoblock for brewing, a 1.5L boiler for steam, and has pressure profiling. It comes with a barista kit with a bottomless portafilter. It has quick heat up time since it is not a E61.

there is a video by david hoffman comparing Appartamento segment coffee machine. worth to hv a look if you looking at that price segment coffee machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0kQ5WqjcU8
Mainly to choose is E61 vs normal one and HX vs boiler or dual boiler..

I'm in the same boat. I've been a nespresso pod user for about 3+ years now and about a 2 months ago, I've decided to get an espresso machine to compliment my coffee addition setup. Needless to say it was the best thing ever. There are days where u just want a quick coffee fix and thats where the pods come in and nespresso if u really want to pull those barista/cafe mouthfeel goodness. So, I got myself a Milesto EM19M2 for about 1K used.. It's a China brand but don't let that put u off.. It has so far done wonders I can froth and pull a shot at the same time because of the double boiler. It's an entry unit so don't expect it to perform like your Lelit, Marazocca, ECM, Rocket.. etc.. etc.. but if you're just looking to get into espresso machine this would probably be it.

I know a lot of people are pro delonghi and the likes, where it's really no hassle and easy push of a button like the nespresso. If you're looking for that kind of simplicity no hassle then yes I believe those will get you what u need. I originally had a budget of about RM700 but end up spending way more to also get a good grinder. I didn't want a machine that would 'pull' the same taste/feel like a nespresso machiane would. If you can, go above and get a good machine that will last u.

FYI, even with nespresso pods i still crave the cafe style coffee.. but every since getting the Milesto, I've stopped altogether. End up just buying the whole beans from the cafes i used to frequent and do it myself. ..

Hi

My Bararza encore I some plastic chip off where the burr holder rest. Anyone know if it is replaceable or repairable?

Think one day the hopper jammed and I turn too hard

This post has been edited by Johnslow: May 14 2023, 03:11 PM

their us site sells spare parts... can check there

I've been reading up if not mistake n think it's called adjustment ring

So you recommend quickmill sunny over appartamento.

Sorry that I just noticed your reply since it is not tagged to my initial post

Any recommended place to get these coffee machines in retail stores so I can go see it physically instead? Preferably in Klang valley


This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: May 15 2023, 07:11 PM

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This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: May 15 2023, 07:12 PM

https://www.jcoffee.com.my/product-category/coffee-machine/

Yes, in fact, at that kind of price point, you probably would want a double boiler with better temp stability and no need to do temp surfing. Italian options:
- Breville BDB - "consumer" grade. dual 750ml SS boilers
- Lelit Elizabeth - 600ml SS steam boiler, 300ml brass brew boiler
- Rancilio Silvia Pro X - can't remember exact specs, but I think 1L SS steam boiler
- Quickmill Sunny - not exact dual boiler because usess thermoblock for brew but 1.5L SS steam boiler

But at that kind of price point, with Chinese options, you can get rotary pump.
- Gemilai 3131A - 2L SS steam boiler, rotary pump

I was keen on the Chinese machine too but i am worried about reliability and support, plus it is quite big.

So far, my WPM 210 is still soldiering on. I had replaced its steam pump 3 times because of leakage over 4 years of use.

Gonna be in a hospital for a week and I am looking between aeropress go but any other suggestions for portable coffee makers Ala camping as I'm planning to bring Arabica pre grounded powder and just make it simple. Coffee shop coffee in kl have some weird acidic taste.

get those individual drip brew coffee bags. less clean up imo. not sure where to get them though..

what are some of the best coffees in town now? I tried many of the special hipster cafes. they dont really feel kaw. presentation is ok. yes the coffee content is strong but taste why still so so. it may be smooth yes but also often sourish.

we grew up with over roasted with margarine cheap liberica or cheap arabica beans... our palate is used to kedai kopi kaw kaw with condensed milk... and so we have this expectation and bias...

good arabica beans can have varied smells and tastes... acidity or sourness is often one of it... a good coffee may be sour but should be well balanced... if overly sour means it wasn't brew properly... and of course you can have some coffee without much acidity/sourness... and roasting can adjust the flavor profile of the beans...



no such thing as best coffee in town... one man's meat another man's poison...

hi, recently the coffee machine broke looking to buy a new one, would like some recommendations

Guys. I used to experience Delonghi entry level EC310 more than decades. I asked the dealer that my model already obsolete and my steam wand gasket seems like leakage the water or steam during extract the coffee. I love delonghi but my wallet not friendly now. I am looking for Gemilai but I read through many users on Facebook that their gemilai coffee machine so many cases regarding water leakage. Even though the Shoppe got selling the gasket but I don't know the Brand is it reliable or not. And i also struggling in between Gemilai CRM3018 vs Gaggia Classic pro. Of course both of them are different segment. One is china made pro summer range and another is entry 'premium' level.

PS. I am using quite long time and i wish to invest a new machine which is more advance from now. But I am doubt gemilai is worthy?

Do you consider china made or italian made?

Hi Sifus,

I was recently given a simple espresso setup to start my journey - previously fell into nespresso trap. I have a donlim KF-6001 and a Groenenberg Coffee Grinder Manual and i have been tweaking and dialing in new beans (pretty slowly).

From what i read through the forum, there isn't any good electric burr grinder below 1k and we should use hand grinder. If that's the case, what would be the recommendation?

I was thinking the budget for about 500, but i know quite a lot of recommendation has been for 1Zpresso that may cost more - is it worth the extra money for the K-pro/plus series in the longer term?

Currently doing 1 cup a day, and occasionally two.

Good Day Everyone,

I've been using Moka Pot and pour over for quite a number of year now and would love to explore using espresso machine.

Due to aesthetical purposes (wife requirement), we've decided to get the below:-

1) Delonghi EC685
2) This Unbranded Coffee Grinder --> seems good enough to do the job
3) 51MM Bottomless Portafilter
4) Scale??
5) and other chapalang accessories such as filter holder, tamper and etc

It is too much for a newbie? Would love to hear more suggestions from Sifus here.

Thanks.

The machine usually comes with all the required accessories out of the box. You just need to buy the grinder and maybe a milk pitcher. And the beans, of course.

You equipment setup will depend on your budget. What's your budget?

Does anyone know who still has stock of the Delonghi Dinamica Plus?

Thanks in advance.