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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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ExpZero
post Apr 28 2016, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Apr 26 2016, 09:51 AM)
Quick question usually when signing up for insurance will there be a client's copy of what he/she has signed? unsure.gif

Also does insurance cover treatment in other countries?
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Client will get a policy book usually within a month of the policy inforce.

For medical coverage, most of the insurance company are covering first 90 days when we are out of Malaysia
For Life/Critical Illness coverage, it's covered worldwide, 24/7.

QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 26 2016, 10:07 AM)
any existing old aia agent can advise and summarize this please? it is an old policy since year 1994. payment semi-annual rm400.00, i.e. per year rm800.

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For better explanation, you can always call to AIA at 1300-88-1899 nod.gif
spreeeee
post Apr 28 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Apr 28 2016, 03:50 PM)
For better explanation, you can always call to AIA at 1300-88-1899 nod.gif
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the careline waited so long.. at the end, give up..
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post Apr 28 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 28 2016, 03:58 PM)
the careline waited so long.. at the end, give up..
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ohmy.gif how long ?

I normally call in also 2 min can edi
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post Apr 28 2016, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 28 2016, 03:59 PM)
ohmy.gif how long ?

I normally call in also 2 min can edi
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>10 mins, during lunch hr..
lifebalance
post Apr 28 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 28 2016, 04:01 PM)
>10 mins, during lunch hr..
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hmm.gif ok ok, if can't get, get the agent
zest168
post Apr 28 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 28 2016, 10:41 AM)
Dear,

I totally understand. I want to point out that no annual limit, then there is a life time limit is misleading! No annual limit means unlimited annually! But there is a life time limit! Meaning annually its limited to the maximum of a lifetime limit! Which in this case its 1.5mil, 1.5 mil it self is a limit, how can there not be limit?
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It is better to have a plan without an annual limit but with a lifetime limit. Of course if there is a plan with NO LIMITS at all would be the best, but the premiums may be sky high then.

Without annual limit cap, you have the flexibility of making claims as long as cumulative of all claims still remains below the Lifetime Limit.

Those with Annual Limit cap, means if the claim for that year is more than the Annual Limit, then claim payment will stop at the Annual Limit.
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post Apr 28 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 28 2016, 10:41 AM)
Dear,

I totally understand. I want to point out that no annual limit, then there is a life time limit is misleading! No annual limit means unlimited annually! But there is a life time limit! Meaning annually its limited to the maximum of a lifetime limit! Which in this case its 1.5mil, 1.5 mil it self is a limit, how can there not be limit?
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To put it simply; there is no cap on how much you can claim annually.

e.g.
Yr 1 - zilch
Yr 2 - 100k
Yr 3 - 1m

This is because usually you are capped at how much you can claim annually.
So the term unlimited is really to say that, well, this policy, does not put a cap on how much you can claim.

However, you are then bound to another condition, which is your accumulated claim is capped at, say, 1.5m.


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post Apr 28 2016, 07:17 PM

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English problems. No limit means infinity. Since the lifetime limit is 1.5mil then put annual limit is 1.5mil.

Or can use annual and lifetime limit is the same.
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post Apr 28 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Apr 28 2016, 04:59 PM)
It is better to have a plan without an annual limit but with a lifetime limit. Of course if there is a plan with NO LIMITS at all would be the best, but the premiums may be sky high then.

Without annual limit cap, you have the flexibility of making claims as long as cumulative of all claims still remains below the Lifetime Limit.

Those with Annual Limit cap, means if the claim for that year is more than the Annual Limit, then claim payment will stop at the Annual Limit.
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How about a plan with a RM1.5mil ANNUAL LIMIT,
with NO LIFETIME LIMIT,
and comparable premiums?

QUOTE(watabakiu @ Apr 28 2016, 05:33 PM)
To put it simply; there is no cap on how much you can claim annually.

e.g.
Yr 1 - zilch
Yr 2 - 100k
Yr 3 - 1m

This is because usually you are capped at how much you can claim annually.
So the term unlimited is really to say that, well, this policy, does not put a cap on how much you can claim.

However, you are then bound to another condition, which is your accumulated claim is capped at, say, 1.5m.
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Are you hearing yourself?

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post Apr 29 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 28 2016, 04:08 PM)
hmm.gif  ok ok, if can't get, get the agent
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long time ago the agent already gone to another world..

anyway, have this sorted out at branch.. thanks everyone..
kokkit3
post Apr 29 2016, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Apr 28 2016, 04:59 PM)
It is better to have a plan without an annual limit but with a lifetime limit.
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Dear,

Annual is 1 year, life time is 99 years. So it is not a better plan to half no annual limit but with a lifetime limit. Misleading where annual limit falls back into life time limit (lifetime limited)

It is always better to have a high annual limit and no lifetime limit. Therefore claims can last a life time!!! Where as a lifetime limit, limits your claims in a life time!

How long do you life? No one knows, thats why life time unlimited is the advantage unless you only live for a year, which falls back to the mention limited claim 1 year (lifetime) only 1.5 mil.

Put it in a scenario, 1.5 mil medical bill in a year.

No annual limit, lifetime limit 1.5 mil
I live 30 years, how much can I claim a year? 1.5 mil, after 1.5 mil? Can I claim some more in that year, next year, next next year? Answer is no. Then bye bye for this medical plan.

High annual limit (lets say 1.5 mil), no lifetime limit
I live 30 years, how much can I claim in a year? 1.5 mil, after 1.5 mil?
Can I claim some more in that year, next year, next next year? Answer is, that year no, next year yes, next next year yes! Because there is no limit in a life time. Medical plan still continue.

Nuff said…
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post Apr 29 2016, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Apr 28 2016, 07:17 PM)
English problems. No limit means infinity. Since the lifetime limit is 1.5mil then put annual limit is 1.5mil.

Or can use annual and lifetime limit is the same.
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Dear,

You are correct but when that particular person is hospitalize don't gamble on the English dictionary for your life. Everyone knows no limit means infinity but the second clause state otherwise instead.
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post Apr 29 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 29 2016, 09:30 AM)
long time ago the agent already gone to another world..

anyway, have this sorted out at branch.. thanks everyone..
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2016, 10:01 AM)
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Oh wells.
I guess you're not gonna answer my question.
So much for a self proclaimed consultant whistling.gif
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post Apr 29 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 29 2016, 02:13 PM)
Oh wells.
I guess you're not gonna answer my question.
So much for a self proclaimed consultant  whistling.gif
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You must be pretty ignorant to read what I replied to you 1 page back to bother to read. Anyways let's not waste my time with your unprofessional intimidation coming from someone who is not genuine to ask for consultation but instead to cause trouble.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Apr 29 2016, 02:28 PM
zest168
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Apr 28 2016, 07:19 PM)
How about a plan with a RM1.5mil ANNUAL LIMIT,
with NO LIFETIME LIMIT,
and comparable premiums?
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Yes with a RM1.5mil Annual Limit without a lifetime limit with comparable premiums is definitely better than the other way round.

Under this situation, ensure that Annual Limit is really high enough for the next 30 years or so to cover medical inflation.


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post Apr 29 2016, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2016, 02:27 PM)
You must be pretty ignorant to read what I replied to you 1 page back to bother to read. Anyways let's not waste my time with your unprofessional intimidation coming from someone who is not genuine to ask for consultation but instead to cause trouble.
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This is already intimidating? Jeez.

Well, someone asked to suggest a medical card.
And when I mentioned Prudential, you seem to have an issue about it because I only mentioned Pru.
This is what you said exactly "why share "P" medical card only ?"
So, I'm trying to understand what's the issue.

But when you said "I feel that AIA medical card is quite good", thats fine?
Aren't you being a hypocrite? Why dont you share about every other card that's available?




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post Apr 29 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Apr 29 2016, 02:55 PM)
Yes with a RM1.5mil Annual Limit without a lifetime limit with comparable premiums is definitely better than the other way round.

Under this situation, ensure that Annual Limit is really high enough for the next 30 years or so to cover medical inflation.
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It's a double edge sword, an annual limit with lifetime limit of RM1.5million isn't too ideal for certain long term treatment.

High annual limit is to hedge for high claim severity risk. Example: Heart Attack
High Lifetime limit is to hedge for long term claim risk. Example: Kidney dialysis and cancer chemotherapy.

Nowadays medical card easily can cover both in most companies, of course with the expense of higher premium smile.gif

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post Apr 30 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2016, 02:27 PM)
You must be pretty ignorant to read what I replied to you 1 page back to bother to read. Anyways let's not waste my time with your unprofessional intimidation coming from someone who is not genuine to ask for consultation but instead to cause trouble.
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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 29 2016, 05:41 PM)
This is already intimidating? Jeez.

Well, someone asked to suggest a medical card.
And when I mentioned Prudential, you seem to have an issue about it because I only mentioned Pru.
This is what you said exactly "why share "P" medical card only ?"
So, I'm trying to understand what's the issue.

But when you said "I feel that AIA medical card is quite good", thats fine?
Aren't you being a hypocrite? Why dont you share about every other card that's available?
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Hey cutie pies,

there's a sandbox by the other side of the playground called "private message".
Maybe you guys can pull each other's hair over there?

Don't come back until you two shake hands and hug okay? wub.gif

Move along now. bruce.gif


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Dear Everyone

What is the best insurance for 2016 for personal

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