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watabakiu
post Mar 22 2016, 03:53 PM

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Conventional vs takaful ?

What are the differences? That, and which would be better?
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post Mar 23 2016, 11:24 PM

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This question pertain to Fire Insurance.

In determining the coverage, should it be based on the house market value,
or the cost of replacing damaged building?
watabakiu
post Mar 24 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Mar 23 2016, 11:24 PM)
This question pertain to Fire Insurance.

In determining the coverage, should it be based on the house market value,
or the cost of replacing damaged building?
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QUOTE(theFIREman @ Mar 24 2016, 12:06 AM)
It depends, are you using the property solely for investment purpose or own use?
If it is the latter, I would highly suggest that you cover the cost of replacing the damaged building because you need to replace not only the building but also everything within it. (i.e. you cant be just replacing the four walls and live inside it without any furniture)

But if solely for investment, I think market value is sufficient, unless you have something very important inside. PM me if you are interested or want to find out further.
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It is for my own use, not for investment.

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 24 2016, 01:41 AM)
Hi

Your fire insurance must be based on market value otherwise your claim will be pro rated.
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Mind to elaborate?
You mean is I insure my house for RM200k, and the damage is for 300k, then i get paid 200k/300k only?
I thought it'd be maxed out to the amount I insure, no?


QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 24 2016, 10:53 AM)
Sure based on market value, You can insure higher but when doing claim, which ever lower applies. Also many factors will affect this and if you renovate without approval, the claim will be rejected.
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So best if put the valuation based on market value? i.e. not based on the amount to repalce the damaged parts of the buidling?

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post Mar 24 2016, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 24 2016, 03:58 PM)
Case 1:
Your property valued 200k, fire insurance is 300k, you're paid 200k only

Case 2:
Your property valued 200k, fire insurance is 200k, you're paid 200k

Case 3:
Your property valued 200k, fire insurance is 100k, you're paid 50k
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Does it not take into account the damage?

e.g.
Case 1:
Your property valued 200k, fire insurance is 300k,
Damage 200k, paid 200k ?

Case 2:
Your property valued 200k, fire insurance is 200k, you're paid 200k
Damage 50k, paid 50k ?
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post Mar 27 2016, 01:40 AM

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Which would be advisable, ILP or standalone?
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post Mar 27 2016, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Mar 27 2016, 01:40 AM)
Which would be advisable, ILP or standalone?
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 27 2016, 01:46 AM)
With budget, Long term, ILP

No budget, short term, stand alone
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You meant for long-term, ILP is better?
What about flexibility? I heard for ILP, one can have flexibility to determine coverage, whereas standalone is fixed. if need to change coverage, have to buy another policy.

QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 27 2016, 02:29 AM)
Third option, don't buy any, no need to worry.
Since ILP most of the time are making profit that better than you keep money below your pillow but lesser than saving account's interest while medical there's always GH that you need to pay(if you are paying income tax)rm1, rm5 for specialist. Operate cost no more than rm1000. So if you buy a policy that you need to pay rm200 a month, you keep for 5 months is enough already to get treated. Sometimes private hospital doctors will simply do operation that are not required in the first place.
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Say that GH is out of question. But having an insurance is needed.
Which would be better then?ILP or standalone?
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post Apr 28 2016, 08:15 AM

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Can a person purchase fire insurance on behalf? example is tenant call the insurance provider and wanna buy for the owner. Can ar? Or must be the owner who contact the insurance provider?
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post Apr 28 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 28 2016, 10:41 AM)
Dear,

I totally understand. I want to point out that no annual limit, then there is a life time limit is misleading! No annual limit means unlimited annually! But there is a life time limit! Meaning annually its limited to the maximum of a lifetime limit! Which in this case its 1.5mil, 1.5 mil it self is a limit, how can there not be limit?
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To put it simply; there is no cap on how much you can claim annually.

e.g.
Yr 1 - zilch
Yr 2 - 100k
Yr 3 - 1m

This is because usually you are capped at how much you can claim annually.
So the term unlimited is really to say that, well, this policy, does not put a cap on how much you can claim.

However, you are then bound to another condition, which is your accumulated claim is capped at, say, 1.5m.


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post May 3 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(tuanlam417 @ May 2 2016, 01:06 AM)
hey can i ask something, is there policy loan from insurance in malaysia? whats the interest rate like?
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What is policy loan?
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post May 8 2016, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 8 2016, 11:05 PM)
Your friend can still apply for insurance but subject to loading.
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What is loading?
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post May 9 2016, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 9 2016, 12:01 AM)
Means you pay extra 25% - 100% of the normal premium that people normally contribute to insure your risk.

E.g standard premium RM200, with loading, you might need to pay RM250 instead.
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What about those who have existing illness before? can they apply for insurance + loading and/or insurance but excluding the existing illness?
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post May 9 2016, 12:16 AM

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it is clear now, thanks @lifebalance!
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post May 9 2016, 05:48 PM

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I need opinion on buying insurance.

Currently I am reliant on the insurance coverage provided by my company. I know, not the best option...

I wish to have insurance, but am really not sure whether to go for which range, e.g. term, ILP, life, medical card, etc..etc...

My biggest concern is the financial impact, should I be hospitalized / requiring operation. I am not too worried about the Death benefit, as am not needing the money after I have passed..

As for clinic visits, I can cope.

Opinion is greatly appreciated, and if got any questions, do ask. Truthfully, I seek fellow forumers assistance in shedding some light as to what I should do.


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post May 11 2016, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ May 11 2016, 02:33 PM)
For insurance, there is, because it is depend on your sum assured. For example RM500/month covering RM200,000 life coverage, so RM50/month covering RM20,000 life coverage.

For medical card, RM50/month will be the lowest tier, something very basic with co-insurance, age limit low etc. It's like you get what what you paid for.
Yes, there is 2 version, with and without co-insurance. nod.gif
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This piques my interest! Could you please tell me more, say, thru PM?
I do not mind much about Life, but more on the coverage in case I am hospitalised / diagnosed with critical illnesses.
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post Jun 13 2016, 02:51 PM

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By any chance anyone has a full list of insurance providers in Malaysia?
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post Jun 18 2016, 10:04 PM

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To confirm, standalone comprehensive medical insurance plan would mean that the premium paid is considered burn/hangus? e.g. no accumulation of sum paid?

That, and how is 'standalone comprehensive medical insurance plan' different than other medical insurance plan? I do like the term comprehensive, but am not sure if it is any different than other medical card?
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post Jun 19 2016, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 18 2016, 10:04 PM)
To confirm, standalone comprehensive medical insurance plan would mean that the premium paid is considered burn/hangus? e.g. no accumulation of sum paid?

That, and how is 'standalone comprehensive medical insurance plan' different than other medical insurance plan? I do like the term comprehensive, but am not sure if it is any different than other medical card?
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 18 2016, 11:33 PM)
1. Yes, premium is directly offset by cost of insurance, no investment value involved.

2. for AIA, both are comprehensive, difference is with / without investment. Other companies might have different practice on the comprehensiveness.
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Does it cover Critical Illness as well?
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post Jul 7 2016, 02:35 AM

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I note that there are a myriad of insurance coverage out there, but does this sum up the purposes accurately?

Life insurance (Traditional Whole Life / Term Life) :

Meant to cushion / provide financial assistance to those you left behind. Technically, the money is not for you, but rather to assist in getting your loss-of-income (as you as the beradwinner has since passed on) to cover for the expenses for your loved ones.


Health Insurance :

Employer-sponsored programmes : The insurance coverage provided by your employer, for as long as you serve in the company. In most cases, it only provides reimbursement for clinic visits, and to some extent costs related to hospital admissions.

Medical Card : Similar to employer-sponsored programmes, but in this case, you have to pay for the premiums yourself.


Total Permanent Disabilities (TPD) :
Financial assistance provided to you in the case of permanent disabilities. Though there cover many types of disabilities, the payout is only once the policy lapses.


Am not sure where ILP stands then? A mixed of both Life + medical ?
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post Jul 7 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Jul 7 2016, 09:48 AM)
It is strictly depends on how you juggle your mind, I would suggest you look at it from the angle of financial point to understand how insurance means for yourself.

Life insurance...you understand it quite well, it is to assist to cover expenses while insurer are promoted abroad or mind dead. If you can find source which provide in par return or more than this, basically you can ignore getting this.

Health/medical insurance
This is strictly compulsory must get. Do make sure it is really can 98% can cover when admission kicks in. Or most Malaysian preferred to raise donations when severe sickness happens. You can find many true stories from the newspaper easily or fb.

Most employers will provide this to their employees, main reason is tax rebate, 2nd reason, employees normal admission or die, all the expenses covered by insurance company, hence employer saving cost. On the other hand, employees feel better because got free medical protection.

Rich people must get this. Normally we hear rich people are scare to die, nowadays they are scare to sick. Because they are protected their wealth by will and they don't want to spend their money when they are sick. Example. They are paying 6k per year to cover 2mils annual limits at the age of 50. When he got sick after 20 years and need 1mil hospital expenses. They are covered and still earning.  6000x20=180,000 spent but untung 820,000. What if never claim before, then you should be joyful because you are healthy.

Actually TPD do included in life insurance.
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Thanks for the explanation, much appreciated!

What about Critical Illnesses? Would it be better paired up with Health insurance and/or life insurance?
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post Jul 9 2016, 02:40 AM

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How is takaful different from the non-takaful insurance plan?

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