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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post May 3 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 09:16 AM)
I've updated my comparison table as attached.

Seems like AIA has an advantage over Prudential and Allianz.

Thoughts / comments please?
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rclxms.gif wah you actually spent time to build this up. Thought it's an agent job tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tuanlam417 @ May 2 2016, 06:24 PM)
yup yup good idea too. my fren is in need of money to settle cc debt, hence i am looking alternative for him. I worked in singapore insurance company, NTUC income, the loan interest here is only 4.5% daily, compound on yearly basis correct me if i am wrong below

my understanding is that you are not require to repay each month, a min fixed amount like normal bank personal loan / credit card, but instead it is ad hoc basis, you can pay back any amount any time, then your principal loan will reduce?
or is it a different case in malaysia?
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Settle CC debt, try looking for alternative like balance transfer 0%, instead of taking loan tho.
Yeah, very much not advisable to take loan from policy.

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 09:16 AM)
I've updated my comparison table as attached.
Seems like AIA has an advantage over Prudential and Allianz.
Thoughts / comments please?
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Impressive that you did this yourself lol
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post May 3 2016, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 09:16 AM)
I've updated my comparison table as attached.

Seems like AIA has an advantage over Prudential and Allianz.

Thoughts / comments please?
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Seems like investment not attractive at all.
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post May 3 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ May 3 2016, 10:15 AM)
Seems like investment not attractive at all.
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The investment figure shouldn't be emphasized so much as it's a projection.
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post May 3 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 09:16 AM)
I've updated my comparison table as attached.

Seems like AIA has an advantage over Prudential and Allianz.

Thoughts / comments please?
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Like I always mention, all insurance companies are similar as it's governed under BNM.
Some are more expensive, some can be very cheap and some provide less/more coverage.
Very important to see beyond benefits especially their contract/T&C.

My personal opinion if you wanna compare life insurance.. look at life insurance companies.
Their performance, track record and history.

QUOTE(Ryannate @ May 3 2016, 10:15 AM)
Seems like investment not attractive at all.
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Have to agree with you.
The investment portion helps with some returns only. Cant make wealth.
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post May 3 2016, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 3 2016, 09:42 AM)
rclxms.gif wah you actually spent time to build this up. Thought it's an agent job tongue.gif
This was done after a number of rounds of chats and Whatsap enquiries. I strongly believe in getting all the necessary information before making a decision.
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post May 3 2016, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ May 3 2016, 10:15 AM)
Seems like investment not attractive at all.
When talking about projected returns, I always focus on conservative or realistic figures. Anyway this is medical / life insurance not really an investment vehicle for me. The returns are just to cover a portion of the monthly premiums.

I have other real investments where the returns are far better.
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post May 3 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:04 PM)
Just some random questions that pop up from my head, I'm currently having a medical insurance with AIA and I would like to ask:

1. If I was diagnosis with mild dengue that would not need me to be hospitalized but still required me to pay for my med, can I claim using my medical card?

2. If I accidentally fell and break my wrist and still no hospitalization required but required to put a plaster on. Will my insurance be able to pay for it?

3. This happens to one of my colleague, her wrist was diagnosis with crack and experience pain regularly and slowly becoming more serious due to long hour of sitting in front of computer and using the mouse which puts a lot of stress on her wrist. There are few remedies, one is through surgery and another is acupuncture. Her doctor recommended her acupuncture but the full treatment was more than 10k. She tried approaching her insurance company but they refuse her claim. So I was wondering does apply to AIA as well?
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1. Not claimable unless there is an admission. Prior to the admission the resulting blood test results must show evidence that there is high fever. Otherwise the request for admission would be rejected.

2. You may get treated under the day surgery and it is claimable.

3. Acupuncture is not claimable as it falls under alternative treatment. Otherwise we may see claims for bomoh, sinsei and whatnot.

One of the terms and condition for the medical card is that it must be a certified Doctor and after the treatment, the patient gets well, if not better.
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post May 3 2016, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 10:56 AM)
When talking about projected returns, I always focus on conservative or realistic figures. Anyway this is medical / life insurance not really an investment vehicle for me. The returns are just to cover a portion of the monthly premiums.

I have other real investments where the returns are far better.
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rclxms.gif don't be misled by agents trying to confuse you.
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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:04 PM)
Just some random questions that pop up from my head, I'm currently having a medical insurance with AIA and I would like to ask:

1. If I was diagnosis with mild dengue that would not need me to be hospitalized but still required me to pay for my med, can I claim using my medical card?

2. If I accidentally fell and break my wrist and still no hospitalization required but required to put a plaster on. Will my insurance be able to pay for it?

3. This happens to one of my colleague, her wrist was diagnosis with crack and experience pain regularly and slowly becoming more serious due to long hour of sitting in front of computer and using the mouse which puts a lot of stress on her wrist. There are few remedies, one is through surgery and another is acupuncture. Her doctor recommended her acupuncture but the full treatment was more than 10k. She tried approaching her insurance company but they refuse her claim. So I was wondering does apply to AIA as well?
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1. There's no such thing of mild dengue, private hospitals won't let you in as the cost incurred are very high especially if you delay treatment, any dengue case > 4 days your risk of getting wrapped in white cloth are high . Happen to my friend's GE policy before. Wanted to admit to a private hospital, call the GE agent(their relative anyway), within 10 minutes get rejected.
2. You need to stay 1 night or settle with hospital on this, certain private hospital will help you to get claim. Again, an honest agent required to make this happens, but most of the agents will wash hand as they know the exclusion can help them not to do extra, their job are more on securing a policy from you, not serve you when you are having problem.
3. Chinese way of treatment are excluded most of the time.

So do consider does medical card really protect you or not hmm.gif
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 3 2016, 11:12 AM)
1. Not claimable unless there is an admission. Prior to the admission the resulting blood test results must show evidence that there is high fever. Otherwise the request for admission would be rejected.

2. You may get treated under the day surgery and it is claimable.

3. Acupuncture is not claimable as it falls under alternative treatment. Otherwise we may see claims for bomoh, sinsei and whatnot.

One of the terms and condition for the medical card is that it must be a certified Doctor and after the treatment, the patient gets well, if not better.
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Acupuncture and physiotherapy can claim under AIA




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post May 3 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:11 PM)
Thanks for the reply, for 3 question, my colleague did try that but the claim was rejected, so I hope this won't happens to AIA.  smile.gif
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Just to add on, by admitting to the hospital meaning you need to be in confinement

"Confinement" means admission in a Hospital as an In-Patient for a minimum period of six (6) hours
upon the recommendation of a Physician of an Insured Person and continuously stays in the
Hospital before his discharge.
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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:04 PM)
Just some random questions that pop up from my head, I'm currently having a medical insurance with AIA and I would like to ask:

1. If I was diagnosis with mild dengue that would not need me to be hospitalized but still required me to pay for my med, can I claim using my medical card?

2. If I accidentally fell and break my wrist and still no hospitalization required but required to put a plaster on. Will my insurance be able to pay for it?

3. This happens to one of my colleague, her wrist was diagnosis with crack and experience pain regularly and slowly becoming more serious due to long hour of sitting in front of computer and using the mouse which puts a lot of stress on her wrist. There are few remedies, one is through surgery and another is acupuncture. Her doctor recommended her acupuncture but the full treatment was more than 10k. She tried approaching her insurance company but they refuse her claim. So I was wondering does apply to AIA as well?
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Some medical insurance provides for emergency accidental treatment as out patient upto 30 days from the accident. Provided that treatment was sought within 24 hours of occurrence due to swollen of the wrist, bleeding, etc.
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QUOTE(tuanlam417 @ May 2 2016, 01:06 AM)
hey can i ask something, is there policy loan from insurance in malaysia? whats the interest rate like?
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What is policy loan?
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 3 2016, 12:40 PM)
What is policy loan?
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Means cashing out your money from your policy as a loan. Later have to repay
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 3 2016, 11:25 AM)
Acupuncture and physiotherapy can claim under AIA
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Yup, if the panel doctor says it is only worth rm10 while the treatment cost rm300, I still can get rm10 for the treatement thumbsup.gif
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post May 3 2016, 02:46 PM

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Updated comparison V3


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post May 3 2016, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 02:46 PM)
Updated comparison V3
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No waiver for AIA policy?! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ May 3 2016, 03:40 PM)
No waiver for AIA policy?!  ohmy.gif
Nope. They probably have but it requires an additional rider which will then increase the monthly Premium.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 02:46 PM)
Updated comparison V3
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Would you like to add in Great Eastern into the comparison?

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