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post Jan 29 2016, 07:41 PM

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Not a good sight....
as at 28 Jan...my IRR is 1.58%
(lowest since data capture)
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post Jan 29 2016, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 29 2016, 07:41 PM)
Not a good sight....
as at 28 Jan...my IRR is 1.58%
(lowest since data capture)
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Myr climbed. And still climbing.
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post Jan 29 2016, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 29 2016, 07:41 PM)
Not a good sight....
as at 28 Jan...my IRR is 1.58%
(lowest since data capture)
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Opps.. than I better not update my portfolio this weekend! tongue.gif
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post Jan 29 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 29 2016, 07:41 PM)
Not a good sight....
as at 28 Jan...my IRR is 1.58%
(lowest since data capture)
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i think you are very heavy in M'sia.....more BAD news on the way???? sweat.gif

Revised Budget 2016: Navigate Through Challenging Times.......... January 29, 2016
The seemingly bottomless dive in oil prices has seen the once prudent budget becoming unrealistic. As of time of writing, Brent crude oil price is trading at USD33.45/barrel- a level far cry from the initial assumption of USD48/barrel tabulated in the Budget 2016 last year. In this regard, government has come out a revised Budget 2016 on 28 January 2016 to account for a shortfall in the oil revenue. 11 new measures were announced, with most of them focusing on addressing a lacklustre private consumption and keeping to its fiscal targets.


Impacts On Malaysian Equities
............. In view of a dimmer earnings outlook and absence of immediate catalysts, upsides for Malaysian equities will likely be limited in the near term.

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ging-Times-6753
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post Jan 29 2016, 11:03 PM

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for those that are holding or are considering Kenanga Asia-Pacific Total Return Fund

From the Desk of Lee Sook Yee, Chief Investment Officer
Commentary on Kenanga Asia-Pacific Total Return Fund

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...eturn-Fund-6757
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post Jan 30 2016, 11:02 PM

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anyone has any idea why amb income trust fund over last 3 years graph also slow slope, then suddenly big spike up?

happened a few times
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post Jan 31 2016, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 30 2016, 11:02 PM)
anyone has any idea why amb income trust fund over last 3 years graph also slow slope, then suddenly big spike up?

happened a few times
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yklooi and I were having a conversation about this on 1st Jan. Its bond default recovery.

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post Jan 31 2016, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 31 2016, 02:21 AM)
yklooi and I were having a conversation about this on 1st Jan. Its bond default recovery.

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So it is a risky investment?
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 31 2016, 08:49 AM)
So it is a risky investment?
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Every investment comes with risk.....as to be a bit less risky.....go with fsm recommended funds as it would be a good place to starts as it had been 'filtered'
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post Jan 31 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 31 2016, 12:25 PM)
Every investment comes with risk.....as to be a bit less risky.....go with fsm recommended funds as it would be a good place to starts as it had been 'filtered'
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Are you referring particularly to bond funds, or equity fund as well? Rhb gold & General fund was once under FSM's recommended fund, the performance for that year was shocking and FSM removed that category under recommended fund in the subsequent year. Therefore, filtered does not mean will be 'better'
I think it's important not to blindly follow recommended fund though some of the recommended funds do perform well
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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Jan 31 2016, 04:23 PM)
Are you referring particularly to bond funds, or equity fund as well? Rhb gold & General fund was once under FSM's recommended fund, the performance for that year was shocking and FSM removed that category under recommended fund in the subsequent year. Therefore, filtered does not mean will be 'better'
I think it's important not to blindly follow recommended fund though some of the recommended funds do perform well
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I was referring to all....
their recommendation was based on data available from March till March of the following year...and those data are PAST records....
as with all past records, they are not indication of possible future performance.
example, if one were to refer to this kind of lists......who can predict there would be a crisis in oil, sub prime crisis or the Asian Financial crisis.
in addition, here is an article on
3 Misconceptions Of Our Recommended Unit Trusts List ..... July 10, 2015
In this Idea Of The Week, we take the time to correct some popular misconceptions investors might have had with regards to the featured list
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...July-2015--6041

thumbup.gif "I think it's important not to blindly follow recommended fund though some of the recommended funds do perform well"

from that article....
The purpose of the Recommended Unit Trusts List is to aid investors in narrowing down the over 200 funds on our platform into the various main categories for the purposes of portfolio diversification, as well as to provide them with a starting point to assess the various funds in their respective categories, given that some categories have so many funds to choose from which gives investors an oft problem of selection headache!

As different investors have different styles of investing, some of the Recommended Unit Trusts List might not be suitable for them. For example, some funds are known to be more aggressively positioned than some of their peers, which won't sit well with a more conservative investor looking for a more resilient product.

Thus, investors should consider the various merits and characteristics the individual funds possess and look to find a product that would complement and sit well with their investment style and philosophy. With a starting point to help guide them through the array of funds and categories, new investors have a good base with which to navigate through the over 200 funds.


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Amdyanamic bond
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post Jan 31 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 31 2016, 05:01 PM)
Amdyanamic bond
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What about AmDynamic bond? I have it but the returns r fairly mediocre. Used to do well but not anymore in recent years
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 31 2016, 08:49 AM)
So it is a risky investment?
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Risk is relative. It's obviously still less risky than most equity fund. But if you compare it will money market or FD it has higher risk
If you have bought it before 2008 you get a normal bond returns over the past 7 years. If u bought before 2008 and sold before 2010 it's a lousy investment. If you bought in 2011 then it's a brilliant bond fund so far.

But if u buy now and expect it to have significantly higher returns than other bond funds you will likely be disappointed - this part not I say. It was discussed previously
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 31 2016, 05:01 PM)
Amdyanamic bond
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what you're trying to say?? blink.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 31 2016, 10:01 PM)
Risk is relative....

If you have bought it before 2008 you get a normal bond returns over the past 7 years. If u bought before 2008 and sold before 2010 it's a lousy investment. If you bought in 2011 then it's a brilliant bond fund so far.
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This is some very high level kung fu.

Wise man say, if u judge a fish by its ability to climb trees, it will live it's entire life think it's stupid.
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post Feb 1 2016, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Feb 1 2016, 02:59 AM)
This is some very high level kung fu.

Wise man say, if u judge a fish by its ability to climb trees, it will live it's entire life think it's stupid.
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Aiyo, that's not the intention la. First paragraph talks about risk to answer the question if it's a risky investment
Second paragraph is reading the performance chart with rear mirror view. that is all retail investor know how to do ma
When EI bond fund has a huge debt recovery sometime last year also people rush to buy ma
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jan 29 2016, 12:31 PM)
Boss Xuzen,

I have only one bond fund - Rhb ATRF.

Shall i consider Eastspring Inv bond fund? Or what other bond fund can i add into my portfolio?
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I have said it before, my personal view is that Bond should act as a portfolio stabilizer. RHB-ATRF is behaving like a mixed asset / balanced fund behaviour, it has high return, but also check out its volatility. It is almost as high as a balanced fund. \

What is RHB-ATRF trying to be? If it is trying to be equity like, then it has lower return than an equity return.

To me, if you want to seek return, equity fund is the way to go.

My personal preference is Libra Asnita Bond. It behaves more like how a traditional bond fund would behave.... boring and stable. With bond you should expect it like dating a virgin 50 y/o woman who works for 30 years as a librarian in the same building and has never change job before.

Xuzen
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Done my monthly KGF top up today, nice and simple biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 1 2016, 01:50 PM)

My personal preference is ... a virgin 50 y/o woman who works for 30 years as a librarian...

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Kinky, but very specific.

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