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post Dec 27 2015, 03:24 PM

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hi guys

for cooling off period, does that mean if i withdraw within that period, no sales charge occurs?

can we utilize this feature to exit the fund if price drop a lot during that period?
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post Dec 27 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Dec 27 2015, 02:38 PM)
I am talking about bond fund in general...

Let's say a company issued bond at par value of US$1000, with coupon rate of 5%. That means every year, it pays interest of $50/unit.

With Fed rate hike, the market value of the bond may drop. Let's say before that it was traded at $1000. Now the market price has dropped to $980. The issuer will still pay interest at $50, not $49.

And, as maturity date draws close, the market price will move towards its par value, which is $1000.

All these, provided that there is no DEFAULT.

Rate hike does increase the possibility of default. However, from what I know, bond default rate is low, even among junk bonds.

OK, will all those said, you make your own judgment  tongue.gif

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why forego RHB Islamic BF ? it has been doing extremely well and consistently for past 5 years
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post Dec 27 2015, 04:17 PM

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for investing in FSM with EPF money, i am a bit confused after reading FSM website. appreciate for some enlightenment

1. The EPF form, should we use original ones or we can print them? if need original form, i see FSM can mail the form. can ask to mail more copies?

2. i assume we need to mail hard copy to FSM to trigger the purchase?

3. are there cheaper alternative to the need to mail the doc? (handing the doc to epf office is not an option)

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post Dec 27 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 27 2015, 04:21 PM)
softcopy will do
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oh, can email softcopy to FSM?
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:23 AM

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hi guys

for cooling off period, does that mean if i withdraw within that period, no sales charge occurs?

can we utilize this feature to exit the fund if price drop a lot during that period?
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:36 AM

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thanks for the answers
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:37 AM

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anyone here use EPF to invest? average EPF past few years about 6% and always positive

any advice which fund is a safer bet? maybe KGF?
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:43 AM

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regarding dividend, i am not familiar with the price that will be bought

is the dividend money that reinvested will also be charged a sales charge?

if yes, isn't that a disadvantage to us? is it better no dividend at all?
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 28 2015, 09:51 AM)
reinvested distribution no SC lar doh.gif
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just an example to clarify yah


Let's say the UT current price is RM 1.0000 and normal sales charge is 2%

invested RM 1000, so total units i get is 980 units

Dividend declared 1 unit = RM 0.1000

So, i will get dividend of RM 98 which is reinvested

if the current UT price is still RM 1.0000 (i know that's not realistic but this number is only for easy calculation), do i get extra

1. 98 units or
2. 96 units

thanks
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 28 2015, 10:04 AM)
980 x RM0.10 / RM1.0000
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Dec 28 2015, 10:03 AM)
i do BUT.. for my own reasons:
1. I've waaaaay too much "Fixed Income" in terms of EPF (humongous compared to cash) + cash/FD/Bonds (little) VS Equities

2. I don't want to have too much % in 1 entity, especially one that can be "robbed" publicly if U get my drift.

3. 6%+/- pa returns from EPF is abnormally high, when compared to the recent 10 years average.

Thus, technically, if one is not heavily lopsided in terms of TOTAL ASSETS in Fixed Income and/or EPF, i'd personally "let it ride" in EPF.

Just a thought  notworthy.gif
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thanks for the hindsight

i was thinking of putting some EPF money on KGF since it consistently beat EPF every single year by a margin. even if there's a bad performance for certain period, the previous return would outweigh the potential deficit
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 28 2015, 10:10 AM)
EPF is bounded by law to pay at least 2.5% pa. You will never see negative returns, even if this means the amount has to magically come from somewhere else.

There is no other scheme like it in the world. Do a quick read of CPF in singapore and compare mandates and rates.
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Regarding EPF, yes i understand it is always positive like FD

I am targeting to put some EPF money on KGF as it consistently outperform EPF by a comfortable margin every year
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2015, 03:59 PM)
hope you have a BETTER luck than me....
mad.gif i got mine wrong again (as usual)...switched in 23 July....few days later it crashed and it is still in RED since
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DCA lah rclxms.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2015, 04:02 PM)
DCA cannot lose money?
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you are smart enough to know what i mean
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2015, 04:05 PM)
you mean top up when it is in RED?
if "YES",...is there "Better" funds out there to top up instead of DCA this Bond fund?
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i agree possibly got

but if you have chosen that fund in the 1st place, i assume you already done your research and think that's the best performing fund, right?

unless you think you have made a wrong choice, then i agree don't DCA
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 28 2015, 04:13 PM)
cry.gif there is only 1 bond fund in TA to temporarily switch to, to get credit and stay low for a while.... cry.gif
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i don't understand the credit part. care to explain?
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post Dec 30 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 11:19 AM)
High correlation coefficient with Ponzi 2.0 ma...

Anyway, all these correlation stuffs sounded familiar to me but not exactly sure what it really includes... Now I know why, I studied them in ACCA last time  sweat.gif Was clearing some old boxes from store room and found my notes... sei mou.. completely forgotten what I studied  doh.gif

As to EI bond fund, is it such a great fund? If I judge from 6 months returns of 1.9%*2, the annualised return is 3.8% which is the same as CMF. I disregarded the one off recovery of previously impaired bond that caused 1 year return of 11.7%

I hold RHB Islamic bond... but it's riskier la, 20% on a single A rated bond  sweat.gif
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how to check RHB Islamic bond is holding single A rated bond?
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post Jan 5 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 31 2015, 05:02 PM)
rclxms.gif i loves angels........don't you loves angels?  brows.gif  wub.gif

btw,...found this...
LOWEST PROMOTION AT THE EVENT!

Good news for investors who will attend our event on 9 January 2016 and 16 January 2016! Fundsupermart.com is offering 0.5% sales charge for all unit trusts from 10 participating fund houses at the event, on both dates only. This means, 160 unit trusts are at 0.5% sales charge on 9 and 16 January 2016 from 10 participating fund houses which include Aberdeen, Affin Hwang Capital, AmInvest, Amanah Mutual, CIMB-Principal, Eastspring, Kenanga, Manulife, Pheim and RHB Asset Management. Investors can place a purchase order on these event dates and ensure that payments reach us latest by 15 January 2016, 3pm (for Penang) and 22 January 2016, 3pm (for KL).


get your BULLETS ready... biggrin.gif
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-1-Jan-16--6668
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must be physically there?
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post Jan 5 2016, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 5 2016, 04:07 PM)
hmm.gif Almost similar question posted last year.. biggrin.gif
if this time the 0.5%Sc T&C is as per last year..then.....
make sure your internet connection and PC/smartphone is working.... biggrin.gif
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don't quite understand what he wrote there
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post Jan 5 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 5 2016, 04:24 PM)
which just means...in the FSM website...the SC for the relevant fund houses are amended to 0.5% just for that day till 12 midnight......
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ic. so we have 2 days (till 12 mid) to buy at 0.5% online?

cool. will mark those dates

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