Agree...US lost a lot of air assets this year...in November alone..an Apache in SoKor and a Blackhawk...followed with the more recent one in Fort Campbell

The biggest Russian lost this year was probably the upgraded Tu-95MS

Manufacturer will say pilot
Military/organization will say aircraft

Let see what investigation will say

Yeah it means the yindians are unreliable

Who will be the panel in the investigation? If I understand Indonesian, they can be quite narcissistic sometimes and will not admit their pilot mistake.

well i think it's completely from pilot error due to insufficient altitude to complete the maneuver.

Fast and Accurate: Best-Kept Secrets of Russia’s 'Sniper' Howitzer









http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151220/103...ails-video.html

LoL. AFAIK the Indian Pak-Fa will be a two seater. This was obviously Russian.



^^^
Some amateures video of the accident shows that while performing a loop maneuver at descending it seems the engine shuts down (no audible sounds of the engine) and plane went spiraling down. Seconds from impact there was a sounds of the engine starting up but it was too late. Looks like the pilots was trying hard to restart the engine while trying to avoid residential areas and saving the plane. Witnesses also confirmed of the lost of engine sounds while the plane performed a loop maneuver.

Will have to wait for the official investigation report.

With a new aircraft it could be anything. Past errors include pilot tertekan wrong switch, because in the new model its on the left side not the right side, pilot terlupa stall angle, terlupa climb rate, etc.

On the technical side, maintenance crews unfamiliar with the aircraft, terlupa buka dono what, maintain it improperly, left something open/shut, this thing jam that thing blocked.... with the new glass cockpits and fly by wire, electronic faults and system error or refresh or blue screen...

Apalagi during acrobatic manoeuvre. Really no point in pointing fingers in such a case.

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Dec 21 2015, 10:15 AM

Korean KAI is also sending a team to investigates the cause of the accident.

What does he mean by "completing formalities"?

Malaysia considering option of purchasing JF-17 Thunder
ISLAMABAD: Malaysia is considering option of purchasing JF-17 Thunder from Pakistan and deal in this regard will be finalized after completing formalities.

This was stated by Malaysian High Commissioner to Pakistan Dr Hasrul Sani bin Mujtabar in an interview.

The high commissioner said Pakistan and Malaysia enjoy excellent relations in defence as well as economic and trade sectors.

He said the current trade volume between the two countries was two billion dollars, which could be enhanced further.

The Malaysian High Commissioner said Pakistan should also focus on enhancing its trade relations with ASEAN countries as there is a great scope of exporting Pakistani goods especially rice.

APP
http://aaj.tv/2015/12/malaysia-considering...-jf-17-thunder/

RIP for Malaysian lost in chengMai in car accident,
how about send A400M to bring back body ? or injury victim?

No need to believe/bother this kind of news, just Malaysian High Commissioner only view。。。more like Social etiquette talk....
our RMAF official also got invited to china see J-10 demo too.

Mai gott... We've sunk down to buying Pakistani planes... to go with our top of the line F18s, SU30s and (fairly acceptable) Hawk 208s...

cukur ekonomi masih baik

Turkeys says 102 Kurdish militants killed in major offensive





http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/turkeys-...nsive-559009257

T-90 tanks help propel Hezbollah and the Syrian Army in Southern Aleppo



Over the last 2 months in the Aleppo Governorate’s southern countryside, the Syrian Arab Army’s 4th Mechanized Division and Hezbollah have attempted to capture the strategic town of Khan Touman from the Islamist rebels of Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham and Jabhat Al-Nusra (Syrian Al-Qaeda group).

On Sunday morning; this long battle for Khan Touman finally came to an end after the Syrian Arab Army’s 4th Mechanized Division – in coordination with Hezbollah, Harakat Al-Nujaba (Iraqi paramilitary), and the National Defense Forces (NDF) – imposed full control over the town and its surrounding farms.


Prior to capturing the town of Khan Touman, the Syrian Armed Forces and their allies seized the imperative village of Al-Qarassi following a series of intense firefights with the Islamist rebels of Faylaq Al-Sham, Jabhat Al-Nusra, Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham, and Harakat Nouriddeen Al-Zinki.

The capture of this aforementioned village paved the way for the pro-government forces to strike Khan Touman’s eastern perimeter and ultimately impose full control over it two hours later.

In addition to the capture of Al-Qarassi and Khan Touman, the Syrian Armed Forces and their allies seized the small hilltop village of Tal Al-‘Amarrah, which is located directly west of Khan Touman.

The Syrian Arab Army’s use of the Russian manufactured T-90 tank played an integral role during this battle, as its protective armor and durability made it difficult for the enemy combatants to halt their advance.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/t-90-t...outhern-aleppo/

Sure anot , feels like a down grade to the TUDM

Lol, that not going to happen.
Keyword considering.

Hahaha.... cakap kencang but isi tak ada

The problem is the government bussy scrapping money to pay 1mbddebts
Where got money but jets

But but those MIG21...ooopss... J17 cheap cheap wor