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TScoolly
post Dec 3 2007, 09:25 PM

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how is the tax paper today?
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post Dec 3 2007, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 3 2007, 09:25 PM)
how is the tax paper today?
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Not bad Not bad ..
But questions about servce tax got problem to answer .
Pity now can't choose question, so have to do all ..
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post Dec 3 2007, 11:12 PM

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oh no mine f7 and i am just starting revising now =(
so scared to fail....
so blur at everything la...
for provision why must we unwind a discount and how to do that? so blur la me...
next semester must really start early

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post Dec 3 2007, 11:39 PM

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Kelayakan :

(a) (i) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan daripada institusi-institusi pengajian tinggi tempatan atau kelayakan yang diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1T8); ATAU

(ii) Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T8); ATAU

(iii) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh Kerajaan serta menjadi Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T9); ATAU

(iv) Ahli Penuh Institut Akauntan Malaysia.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T10)


ACCA fall in which category ? Category (iv) is MIA ? After 3 years experience, can qualified as MIA member?
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post Dec 3 2007, 11:56 PM

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i have a question to ask here...
negative goodwill on subsidiary we need to credit to I/S.
but for the negative goodwill on Associate, wat should we do when using equity method..
is it we COI + share of post acq profit + negative goodwill?
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post Dec 4 2007, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 3 2007, 11:56 PM)
i have a question to ask here...
negative goodwill on subsidiary we need to credit to I/S.
but for the negative goodwill on Associate, wat should we do when using equity method..
is it we COI + share of post acq profit + negative goodwill?
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I believe there's no negative goodwill for associate my dear smile.gif
Or you mean premium?
Associate will just deliver one thing in group B/S that's Investment in associates RMXXX under column of non-current assets. -> Comprises of cost of investment and post - acq profit.


Added on December 4, 2007, 12:35 am
QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 3 2007, 11:39 PM)
Kelayakan    :

    (a) (i) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan  daripada institusi-institusi pengajian tinggi tempatan atau kelayakan yang  diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.
  (Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1T8); ATAU

(ii) Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T8);  ATAU

(iii) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh Kerajaan serta menjadi Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T9);  ATAU

(iv) Ahli Penuh Institut Akauntan Malaysia.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T10)
ACCA fall in which category ? Category (iv) is MIA ? After 3 years experience, can qualified as MIA member?
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I think should be Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf or kelayakan yang diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.

This post has been edited by keith_hjinhoh: Dec 4 2007, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 4 2007, 12:33 AM)
I believe there's no negative goodwill for associate my dear smile.gif
Or you mean premium?
Associate will just deliver one thing in group B/S that's Investment in associates RMXXX under column of non-current assets. -> Comprises of cost of investment and post - acq profit.
But the past year(june 2007) im doing now, over the suggested answer there , the examiner shows that the carrying amount of associate should calculate like tat. the method he use is COI + post acq profit + negative goodwill.because i never saw this before so need to confirm here.

anyway..thx...
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post Dec 4 2007, 05:05 AM

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QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 3 2007, 04:52 PM)
hey~juz wanna ask u something?
u got re-do our final exam CR conso a/c?
cause cannot get balance here..u got re-do and get the correct answer...
cant get the answer again~~
haih~~internal also cannot do,dun know how to do the external~
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course mate, i've done with that after Ms chin discussed with us.

I can balance it..



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post Dec 4 2007, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(babysept @ Dec 4 2007, 05:05 AM)
course mate, i've done with that after Ms chin discussed with us.

I can balance it..
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then can u list the B/S figure to me?
coz i different 9k(less) at the upper side of the B/S.

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post Dec 4 2007, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 3 2007, 11:39 PM)
Kelayakan    :

    (a) (i) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan  daripada institusi-institusi pengajian tinggi tempatan atau kelayakan yang  diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.
  (Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1T8); ATAU

(ii) Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T8);  ATAU

(iii) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh Kerajaan serta menjadi Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T9);  ATAU

(iv) Ahli Penuh Institut Akauntan Malaysia.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T10)
ACCA fall in which category ? Category (iv) is MIA ? After 3 years experience, can qualified as MIA member?
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is that kelayakan to join the government right? they dont really give damn u acca or master or what. u start below along with those degree holders (all will start at grade w41) and you have to wait ages to get promoted. ppsss: dont want la. money not that good anyway. hoho


Added on December 4, 2007, 10:21 am
QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 3 2007, 11:56 PM)
i have a question to ask here...
negative goodwill on subsidiary we need to credit to I/S.
but for the negative goodwill on Associate, wat should we do when using equity method..
is it we COI + share of post acq profit + negative goodwill
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what i know, equity method, 2 ways :

1. coi + post res of H% - goodwill imp ------------> not -ve goodwill but goodwill impaired. different ok
or
2. FV of NA at ye of H% + goodwill not imp

QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 4 2007, 12:39 AM)
But the past year(june 2007) im doing now, over the suggested answer there , the examiner shows that the carrying amount of associate should calculate like tat. the method he use is COI + post acq profit + negative goodwill.because i never saw this before so need to confirm here.

anyway..thx...
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eh... june 2007? glove, body and fit? where got associate? i dont see any associate. blink.gif no -ve goodwill also

glove owns body 80%
glove owns fit 56% indirect method

This post has been edited by princessintan: Dec 4 2007, 11:02 AM
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post Dec 4 2007, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 4 2007, 12:33 AM)
I believe there's no negative goodwill for associate my dear smile.gif
Or you mean premium?
Associate will just deliver one thing in group B/S that's Investment in associates RMXXX under column of non-current assets. -> Comprises of cost of investment and post - acq profit.


Added on December 4, 2007, 12:35 am
I think should be Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf or kelayakan yang diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.
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Just get ACCA, can consider as Ahli Penuh ??

Wan to ask, 15 minutes reading & planning time...

So its start from 2.45- 6.00 PM or 3.00 - 6.15 PM. The reading time is b4 3.00


This post has been edited by Irresistible: Dec 4 2007, 11:48 AM
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post Dec 4 2007, 02:57 PM

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Giving up on F8 already ... way too much to study cry.gif rclxub.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(coolly @ Dec 3 2007, 09:25 PM)
how is the tax paper today?
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Hi.. Im not sure ur asking which tax paper, but i shall assume u asking adv taxation rite.? since ur ckw main supporter..

Anyway, the paper was quite fair.. But, first time under richard that he wrote an articles in oct n it didnt out.!! All tips didnt come out as well.. Questions really all emphasis on theory n explaination alot, computation consist of bout 15marks only of the paper.. Some questions (Q2, Q3) quite indirect n im not too sure wat he wan us to answer.. overall, i think ok.. conclusion, never spot anything in acca, especially this paper.. haiz.. blush.gif

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 4 2007, 11:47 AM)
Just get ACCA, can consider as Ahli Penuh ??

Wan to ask, 15 minutes reading & planning time...

So its start from 2.45- 6.00 PM or 3.00 - 6.15 PM. The reading time is b4 3.00

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reading time 3.00-3.15pm
exam time 3.15-6.15pm

QUOTE(b3llad0nna @ Dec 4 2007, 02:57 PM)
Giving up on F8 already ... way too much to study  cry.gif  rclxub.gif
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Hey, my fren.. Neva give up till the last minute.. If i could do it in my previous sitting, y not u.? nobody knows wat will happen.. so long that u do your best n try your best, trust me, result will be the best.. goodluck.. cheerz.. nod.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 05:40 PM

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Yea, Never give up!!! I've been holiday for nearly a week never touch the book.. =.=''
Have to study hard for my 12th December now onwards!!!
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post Dec 4 2007, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 4 2007, 12:39 AM)
But the past year(june 2007) im doing now, over the suggested answer there , the examiner shows that the carrying amount of associate should calculate like tat. the method he use is COI + post acq profit + negative goodwill.because i never saw this before so need to confirm here.

anyway..thx...
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Negative goodwill is deal at Group B/S
Dr Retained Profits
Cr Investment in associates
somehow the question is the goodwill should be fully treated when calculate total COI - FV of net assets, why you have this negative goodwill later?
**Goodwill + FV of Net Asset = Cost of investment FYI...

Is it goodwill impairment?

QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 4 2007, 11:47 AM)
Just get ACCA, can consider as Ahli Penuh ??

Wan to ask, 15 minutes reading & planning time...

So its start from 2.45- 6.00 PM or 3.00 - 6.15 PM. The reading time is b4 3.00

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Setaraf dengan nya... i'm not really sure, you've to call em up to ask.

This post has been edited by keith_hjinhoh: Dec 4 2007, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(littlediana @ Dec 3 2007, 11:12 PM)
for provision why must we unwind a discount and how to do that?
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why no one answer my question de ?
cry.gif

This post has been edited by littlediana: Dec 4 2007, 07:36 PM
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Dec 3 2007, 11:39 PM)
Kelayakan    :

    (a) (i) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan  daripada institusi-institusi pengajian tinggi tempatan atau kelayakan yang  diiktiraf setaraf dengannya.
  (Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1T8); ATAU

(ii) Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh kerajaan.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T8);  ATAU

(iii) Ijazah Sarjana Muda Perakaunan yang diiktiraf oleh Kerajaan serta menjadi Ahli Penuh Badan-Badan Ikhtisas Perakaunan yang diiktiraf.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T9);  ATAU

(iv) Ahli Penuh Institut Akauntan Malaysia.
(Gaji permulaan ialah pada Gred W41: P1 T10)
ACCA fall in which category ? Category (iv) is MIA ? After 3 years experience, can qualified as MIA member?
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i think if u jus become ACCA member and did not join MIA,then u belongs to (ii)
if u join MIA liao,then is (iv) o (ii) lo..

QUOTE(G[a]rY @ Dec 4 2007, 04:33 PM)
Hi.. Im not sure ur asking which tax paper, but i shall assume u asking adv taxation rite.? since ur ckw main supporter..

Anyway, the paper was quite fair.. But, first time under richard that he wrote an articles in oct n it didnt out.!! All tips didnt come out as well.. Questions really all emphasis on theory n explaination alot, computation consist of bout 15marks only of the paper.. Some questions (Q2, Q3) quite indirect n im not too sure wat he wan us to answer.. overall, i think ok.. conclusion, never spot anything in acca, especially this paper.. haiz..  blush.gif
reading time 3.00-3.15pm
exam time 3.15-6.15pm
Hey, my fren.. Neva give up till the last minute.. If i could do it in my previous sitting, y not u.? nobody knows wat will happen.. so long that u do your best n try your best, trust me, result will be the best.. goodluck.. cheerz..  nod.gif
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haha..is ckf la..aiyo.. tongue.gif
ya,for 2.3 i know many ppl said quite ok la..but my friend say 3.2 quite tough ma..so mah ask ask here lo..
i still go and tell ppl normally he wrote article will out,and also will out pilot..
luckily pilot got out,jus article no out lo..

yaya..richard still wan prove his capability to kill students..hehe..so cannot spot the questions..

yaya.agree with gary...don give up,no matter how jus go to hantam it...
u give up then will fail,u no give up not nece u fail,got hope to pass..so why not fight till the last minute leh.. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(littlediana @ Dec 4 2007, 07:35 PM)
why no one answer my question de ?
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that is not necessary to discount the provision as long as the provision is paid not more than one year later..
If the provision need to discounted, the question normally will give the discount rate or market rate...

For example, when the provision need to be paid at 2 years later is 1000 (discount rate = 5%)and the amount in the B/S should be

Year 1 = 1000 / 1.05^2 = 907 PLUS interest for the year =907x5%=45.35
=952.35
Year 2 =952.35 +(952.35x5%)=999.9675
=1000

Figure different due to rounding error..so at the end of the year 2 is should have 1000 in the liability which is the amount expected to settle the obligation..


Added on December 4, 2007, 9:29 pm
QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Dec 4 2007, 07:19 PM)
Negative goodwill is deal at Group B/S
Dr Retained Profits
Cr Investment in associates
somehow the question is the goodwill should be fully treated when calculate total COI - FV of net assets, why you have this negative goodwill later?
**Goodwill + FV of Net Asset = Cost of investment FYI...

Is it goodwill impairment?
Setaraf dengan nya... i'm not really sure, you've to call em up to ask.
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this i also not sure..since is the answer given in the past year...
and is it..
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QUOTE(scorpiok @ Dec 4 2007, 08:44 AM)
then can u list the B/S figure to me?
coz i different 9k(less) at the upper side of the B/S.
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check is its ur cash and bank bal..

my computation is 400+300+200+9

30%xRM30,000 = RM 9,000

under note 1 2nd para, stated that Sky paid a dividend to Heavyweight but have not recorded its share of the dividend received.
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QUOTE(babysept @ Dec 4 2007, 10:01 PM)
check is its ur cash and bank bal..

my computation is 400+300+200+9

30%xRM30,000 = RM 9,000

under note 1 2nd para, stated that Sky paid a dividend to Heavyweight but have not recorded its share of the dividend received.
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Ooo..thx... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
i missing the 9 eledi~~


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