really I don't really know. Currently scope knows, but we don't.(from my source anyway)
But I only know when I reach scope in end of august

This post has been edited by sweemeng: Jul 16 2008, 10:49 AM

for high ranked position, what other thing you can share with us apart from good money?

mate, with all due respect, human issue is not an issue being considered in working world.
so, look at it positively.
if they can't gear the project or they can't learn and you managed to, it only proves that you are more capable.
i am not on a high post. but i still think it will look nice in your resume if you worked in Scope before.

but i have to agree with you that fresh grad. doesn't have much choice after the training.
but please also remember there is a chance to discuss with your boss and ask for a move.

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Added on July 16, 2008, 3:59 pmJanice.Forever

look at it this way.
turnover is i believe should be evaluated with percentage%
Scope is big, so if 1 month got 50 staffs resigned or transfer.
Say Scope has 1.5k of staffs now.
Say xxx company has 100 staffs now.

Which one has a higher turnover rate?
xxx company because 50% turnover rate.

If I am not mistaken, one of the manager's KPI would be "retaining the staff or having low turnover rate in his/her dept"

So, support them and you will get their support in return.

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Added on July 16, 2008, 4:01 pmcallmepaper,

did you get any offer yet?
from what I am seeing, is a healthy environment with sufficient amount of work for you to grow.
so if you are capable, why worry?

I mean you should have enough working experience and exposure for the PM post., so if I were you, the only thing I would worry would be pipelines.

And for your information, the staffs here are quite competitive and cooperative.
To me, its PM's heaven.

cheers!

This post has been edited by noelcantona7: Jul 16 2008, 04:01 PM

hi noelcantona7,
not yet. i'm rather not worry about the workload or whatsoever, very much curious to know the culture and the top people. i guess probably this is not a right forum for sharing such info. will have to dig it out myself if i'm offered a chance. thanks for the feedback, appreciated it.

Scope and ITSC, a nice place to work. attractive remuneration package. no doubt heavy workload but learning is great. sweet memory.

My bro worked with SCOPE for 3.5 months, the problem with his job was that the working hours. He was required to work from 11am-8pm (very weird hours as they need to support middle east countries), nothing much to learn as he was in the support team. during the interview, they told him the working time is flexible, after donno how long, he would get the chance to learn programming, the pay was ok with no probation period. So he took the offer and got regretted after 2 weeks. So he tendered resignation letter and the immediate supervisor told him coz no probation period, he will need to serve for at least 3 months otherwise he will need to pay compensation. So no choice, the company made him seated at his desk doing nothing for 3 months . Thank god, he got an offer before he left the company.

Mate, i think to be fair I would ask:

1. Did your bro talk to his line mgr? If yes, how and how many times?
2. Did you bro stress that he is not comfortable with the time? there is indeed 8-5, 9-6, 10-7, 11-8 slots available.
3. Did he get a chance to learn programming?
4. Doing nothing is not good even he left 3 mths with the comp. (frankly, I join in and I am being aggressive, so I ask around for work and now I got a whole lot)

If he really looking into dev. work he should be opened enough to discuss with line mgr, and HR.
And time, again with line mgr.
And if after talking and trying and really couldn't work. Its very fair for him to give up.

Else is a waste of his time, the company's time and everyone's effort (including your bro)

clngu said is a nice place, this is my 3rd company and i have to say is a positive place.

so, keep us updated with your brother and the new company that he joined. glad to improve.

Not too sure..yeah, it could b my bro's problem, anyway it happened last 2 years. He's now in BASF, seems to be happier

This post has been edited by jimmu: Jul 16 2008, 07:57 PM

Hi guys, I just begin working with Scope this week after near 3 month training at Shah Alam (under Grad Trainee) doing midrange. We're been assign under Internet Banking Mobile team. Unfortunately,me and my friends(Java trainee) were left alone at the back of the office(near pantry 2nd floor) waiting for the manager to give the briefing but until now just wait( 3 days )...HR has told us that this prob happen due to late inform to the manager
...and the brief, tour in the office will start next week... i dont know whether the manager always busy but at least just assign us in the team first, not rotten there while other staffs just glare us like we're like outlaw or smthing...we just want to be part of the Scope..huhu...

One more thing...Whats the Internet Banking Mobile team do? One of us has assign to PICASSO team...whats PICASSO? Already ask people there but they don't know much about them...hope senioritas working in Scope can clarify it....


Does your bro work in midrange or mainframe? Really want to do programming to gain exp...

Whats your pwise id.
PM me, I will look for you tomorrow.

Sorry, I only been inform about Bank ID and given access card only...others not inform, so dunno what pwise ID use....only 4 of my friend got PC...others like me have to wait the comp to arrive (Risha said)...even has to share the empty cubicle temporary...huhuhu...

We'll be delight if you come to see us 2morrow...

where you sitting?
lyl cp?
I am sitting near the aquarium.
look for Way En, Albert Lim or Wayen's room.

pm me your name, and describe me your physical outlook, better still with pics..:-)

i will find you :-)

Mine is in CP.....i heard end of the year all staff in CP will transfer to LYL...is it true?

looks like a lot of us ends up doing testing, confirmed from source
most of us in training now will ends up in CTF, which what is it anyway?

how is the environment in hogan team and ccms team. Some might ends up there

This post has been edited by sweemeng: Jul 25 2008, 01:49 PM

How about under sue?

anyone heard of this post ? --> Virtual Relationship Consultant/ Manager

It's being opened for recruitment.
Is it a new post?
Any ideas?
NoelCantona?

Anyone heard about this post too?
Incident Management Analyst which is in Bukit Jalil?
Saw the recruitment in jobstreet.
What is the salary range?

This post has been edited by bit_bit: Jul 27 2008, 02:50 AM

CTF team is full of positive working energy! and a good place to grow! (a lot of bnking application will fall into CTF for testing, so you get to learn a lot on bnking app)
Hogan and CCMS too, and concentrating on corebanking and credit cards related.

sue what? which team?

Yes, my friend interviewed for this position. I believe this is abt gearing new prj for the banks and exploring the opportunity to enhance.
So the guy for this post. must have excellent communication skills. I would see this as a good position to grow if you are good! :-)


I believe this is a support position. Assigning tickets, talking to business user and resolve the issue.
Else, you send the tickets to the developer here in ISCM, call them escalate, and follow up then close the ticket?
And the salary range, you can talk to the person who is going to interview you.

Hi cantona,

thanks for the reply. so i heard your fren recently went for this interview.
Do u have any idea what the interview is like? lots of tests on communication skills?
i wonder if they are recruiting in large numbers for this post or just 1 .
hope you could share with us.
Thanks

i believe is probably 2-3 post.
there is no test, just interview(s).
be yourself, if you are fit, they will take you.
dont worry! :-)