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post Jan 5 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 5 2016, 07:53 PM)
Anyone is applying/has applied for PR not thru any agency in Malaysia? How much do you spend total?

Asking on behalf of a friend.
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depends on what subclass but its basically just remove the agent fees from an agency quotation, no?

or for 189/190, just add AUD3600, meds, skill assessment, IELTS, docs notarization and translations, police clearance... i think that's just about it?
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 5 2016, 12:08 PM)
Hi guys, , if you have any queries on how to apply job here provided you already got your visa, can always give us a buzz. We'll try to advise you whatever we can
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Finally have obtained PR independently sweat.gif . But how's the current job market like for accounting industry particularly in Sydney? Has anyone tried applying from bolehland and made it to interviews? Also, is it better to go there while I am still in early stages of my career?
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post Jan 5 2016, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:26 PM)
depends on what subclass but its basically just remove the agent fees from an agency quotation, no?

or for 189/190, just add AUD3600, meds, skill assessment, IELTS, docs notarization and translations, police clearance... i think that's just about it?
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Yeah it's for subclass 189..i've actually checked borders.gov.au beforehand and found that it's A$3600 for application fee and additional A$800 for applicants over 18years old..making it a total of A$4400 from start to finish? Anyone to confirm this amount?
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post Jan 6 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Jan 5 2016, 10:32 PM)
Finally have obtained PR independently sweat.gif . But how's the current job market like for accounting industry particularly in Sydney? Has anyone tried applying from bolehland and made it to interviews? Also, is it better to go there while I am still in early stages of my career?
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Getting a job is very subjective and depends on individual. Some people get their job within weeks and some within years...however, be positive on things you do. The moment you decide to apply PR and settle down, that's the moment you need to bend your knees for the sake of your children's future.

Current job market is pretty bad. Lots of people jobless now. However, very depends on your skills and little bit of luck. There's a possibility of getting a job from offshore but the chances is minimal but no harm to try. Please note that you need to compete candidates from overseas too. Make use of your strongest skills apart from your bachelor degree. Be proactive.

For sydney might be different scenario than smaller city like Perth.

My advise is, apply whatever job you could either casual or part time so that you could pay your rent and bills.

Make sure your review your CV more often and it's 3 pages only + 1 page letter. Yes...it is 3 page CV. More than that will chuck into the bin and no photo.
Apply PR is not hard but getting 1st job is pain in the neck.

I even get phone calls from Indian candidates willing to work for free......damn, ruin the market nia

Walk in to get a job is a good idea too. Face doesn't cost anything here. All you need to do is ask. No one laugh at you coz every one is try to make a living.

Car is cheap. If you guys really die hard couldn't get a job, drive Uber lor


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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 5 2016, 11:06 PM)
Yeah it's for subclass 189..i've actually checked borders.gov.au beforehand and found that it's A$3600 for application fee and additional A$800 for applicants over 18years old..making it a total of A$4400 from start to finish? Anyone to confirm this amount?
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whats that $800? is that for your family member above 18yo?
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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 5 2016, 11:06 PM)
Yeah it's for subclass 189..i've actually checked borders.gov.au beforehand and found that it's A$3600 for application fee and additional A$800 for applicants over 18years old..making it a total of A$4400 from start to finish? Anyone to confirm this amount?
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whats that $800? is that for your family member above 18yo?
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post Jan 6 2016, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Jan 5 2016, 10:32 PM)
Finally have obtained PR independently sweat.gif . But how's the current job market like for accounting industry particularly in Sydney? Has anyone tried applying from bolehland and made it to interviews? Also, is it better to go there while I am still in early stages of my career?
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Get over to Sydney and start applying for work. Also, you will need to change the mentality of being an Asian to a Caucasian via being more outspoken and outgoing. It is still common in Perth that Asians can't speak proper English yet complain that they could not find a job, that is the biggest issue.

Once you passed that stage, getting a job shouldn't be too hard in your age as your expected wage is considered cheap compared to the seniors.

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QUOTE(Soony @ Jan 6 2016, 12:53 AM)
Get over to Sydney and start applying for work. Also, you will need to change the mentality of being an Asian to a Caucasian via being more outspoken and outgoing. It is still common in Perth that Asians can't speak proper English yet complain that they could not find a job, that is the biggest issue.

Once you passed that stage, getting a job shouldn't be too hard in your age as your expected wage is considered cheap compared to the seniors.
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For entry level jobs in accountancy ,the only way you're gonna get a job is being here. No one will hire an offshore candidate for entry level.

Plan your moves quick as now is the best time to apply for jobs. The younger you are the better this migration journey is going to be.

Most important never listen to anyone who isn't here , cause all you will here is negative news.
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post Jan 6 2016, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 5 2016, 11:06 PM)
Yeah it's for subclass 189..i've actually checked borders.gov.au beforehand and found that it's A$3600 for application fee and additional A$800 for applicants over 18years old..making it a total of A$4400 from start to finish? Anyone to confirm this amount?
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i think its AUD1800 for dependents above 18 and AUD900 for dependents below 18

and that's just the visa fees

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QUOTE(Soony @ Jan 6 2016, 12:53 AM)
Get over to Sydney and start applying for work. Also, you will need to change the mentality of being an Asian to a Caucasian via being more outspoken and outgoing. It is still common in Perth that Asians can't speak proper English yet complain that they could not find a job, that is the biggest issue.

Once you passed that stage, getting a job shouldn't be too hard in your age as your expected wage is considered cheap compared to the seniors.
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Well no doubt that's the truth here in perth
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post Jan 6 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 6 2016, 12:28 AM)
whats that $800? is that for your family member above 18yo?
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Sorry not 800 but 1800, I read wrongly.

QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 6 2016, 06:09 AM)
i think its AUD1800 for dependents above 18 and AUD900 for dependents below 18

and that's just the visa fees
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I got this from here:
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So "additional" means you have another person, other than yourself, applying for PR too?

So to confirm for ownself application only, total amount is A$3600 from start to finish, am I right?

What about other stuffs such as meds, skill assessment, docs notarization and translations, police clearance? Are there any additional payment from these?

This post has been edited by jianh: Jan 6 2016, 01:14 PM
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post Jan 6 2016, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:11 PM)
Sorry not 800 but 1800, I read wrongly.
I got this from here:
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So "additional" means you have another person, other than yourself, applying for PR too?

So to confirm for ownself application only, total amount is A$3600 from start to finish, am I right?

What about other stuffs such as meds, skill assessment, docs notarization and translations, police clearance? Are there any additional payment from these?
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yup for the first question

like i said, AUD3600 is just the visa fees alone

definitely all of them will cost you, nothing is free bro...
meds, english exams and police clearance are are standard
skill assessment, docs, etc depends on the assessing body and who is translating or notarizing your docs
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 6 2016, 01:35 PM)
yup for the first question

like i said, AUD3600 is just the visa fees alone

definitely all of them will cost you, nothing is free bro...
meds, english exams and police clearance are are standard
skill assessment, docs, etc depends on the assessing body and who is translating or notarizing your docs
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For the bolded parts above (except English exam IELTS RM750 for now), I have to pay as well? Roughly how much if you have an idea please?

Say, this friend of mine is also engineering, therefore assessing body for skills we know is Engineers Australia.

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:11 PM)
Sorry not 800 but 1800, I read wrongly.
I got this from here:
user posted image

So "additional" means you have another person, other than yourself, applying for PR too?

So to confirm for ownself application only, total amount is A$3600 from start to finish, am I right?

What about other stuffs such as meds, skill assessment, docs notarization and translations, police clearance? Are there any additional payment from these?
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the picture says it all. "additional" such as spouse and children

wondering whats the cost for non-internet application

other sutff of course not included. so you have to pay extra for medical, skill assessment,ielts,etc
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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:48 PM)
For the bolded parts above (except English exam IELTS RM750 for now), I have to pay as well? Roughly how much if you have an idea please?
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i would say $1k is more than enough for those modules

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 6 2016, 01:49 PM)
the picture says it all. "additional" such as spouse and children

wondering whats the cost for non-internet application

other sutff of course not included. so you have to pay extra for medical, skill assessment,ielts,etc
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Alright.

QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 6 2016, 01:50 PM)
i would say $1k is more than enough for those modules
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assuming a max of AUD1000, makes it a rough estimate would be AUD4600 then... I see.
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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:48 PM)
For the bolded parts above (except English exam IELTS RM750 for now), I have to pay as well? Roughly how much if you have an idea please?

Say, this friend of mine is also engineering, therefore assessing body for skills we know is Engineers Australia.
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not sure about EA but ACS is AUD500, the rest is small amount, so yeah like someone said, total about AUD1000 is a good estimate smile.gif

here, EA's fees
https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/migra...assessment-fees

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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:48 PM)
For the bolded parts above (except English exam IELTS RM750 for now), I have to pay as well? Roughly how much if you have an idea please?

Say, this friend of mine is also engineering, therefore assessing body for skills we know is Engineers Australia.
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Engineers Australia Skills Assessment Fee is AUD715. That is the amount quoted by my agent.

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Jan 5 2016, 01:37 PM)
Good luck with rent going down. Not going to happen soon.

Luck/experience applying out of Aus:
Look at this way, u have 100+ of applicants per role. Put yrself in the recruiter's shoes. How would they shortlist?
If u expect to just expect any responses to come back cos u sent a few CVs out, then u will be sorely disappointed.

Tip 1:
Tailor make CV and cover letter to suit each and every role u apply 4.

Tip 2:
Don't just submit the CV. Call recruiter and sell yourself. Tell them why they shld shortlist u.

If they want to meet u, they want u 2 b avail on short notice.
If u say u still in MY, yr CV goes to bottom of the pile.

Local experience is very valuable. This is how I got my last 2 roles. In my past role, didn't even need interview and job was not even advertised.
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I have been receiving similar advice in regards to this, and definitely agree about how being there would definitely be a lot more helpful than applying offshore.

Unfortunately, circumstances does not allow me to move to Aus till after the middle of the year, and as such I have but limited options but to apply for jobs online even if it's not gonna be fruitful.
Better to try than to sit down waiting. CV has been modified based on the Aus preference, and cover letters are definitely tailored too.

Worst case scenario would just be to go there jobless and pick up whatever jobs available at the point.


Has anyone here managed to snag a job before the move to Aus after getting a PR? If so, how did it go? Thanks. =)
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QUOTE(jianh @ Jan 6 2016, 01:51 PM)
Alright.
assuming a max of AUD1000, makes it a rough estimate would be AUD4600 then... I see.
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Dear just for sharing, all is approximate amount as i'm too lazy to go through my bank statement. So just based on my memory

My skill assessment for CPA around AUD 450
Meds check up RM 290
English Exam (Ielts) AUD 330/ RM 750
Pearson AUD 320 / RM650
Police clearance Aust: AUD 45
Malaysia cert good conduct: RM 20
Birth cert i get it translated at the Seremban High Court @ translator: 4 copies for RM 50 including certified (quite pricey for Seremban small town)
All my other documents is certified by my migration agent so it is free.
If it is not mistaken if you are in Msia only limited occupation can certified documents.
However, if you are in Aust quite a lot of occupation can certified for you.
Migration agent, Pharmacist, Doctor, Bank Manager, police officer, post officer or etc.
If you have friend you can get it for free too.


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