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jtsl9
post Jan 8 2016, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(lilfire @ Jan 7 2016, 10:36 PM)
Dear just for sharing, all is approximate amount as i'm too lazy to go through my bank statement. So just based on my memory

My skill assessment for CPA around AUD 450
Meds check up RM 290
English Exam (Ielts)  AUD 330/ RM 750
Pearson AUD 320 / RM650
Police clearance Aust: AUD 45
Malaysia cert good conduct: RM 20
Birth cert i get it translated at the Seremban High Court @ translator: 4 copies for RM 50 including certified (quite pricey for Seremban small town)
All my other documents is certified by my migration agent so it is free.
If it is not mistaken if you are in Msia only limited occupation can certified documents.
However, if you are in Aust quite a lot of occupation can certified for you.
Migration agent, Pharmacist, Doctor, Bank Manager, police officer, post officer or etc.
If you have friend you can get it for free too.
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How is the Pearson exam if compared to IELTS since my agent suggesting to try that. I have google it and the feedback was mixed as some said it was tough while some said it is easier than IELTS. Can you share your experience since you did both IELTS & Pearson
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post Jan 8 2016, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 7 2016, 11:22 AM)
I have been receiving similar advice in regards to this, and definitely agree about how being there would definitely be a lot more helpful than applying offshore.

Unfortunately, circumstances does not allow me to move to Aus till after the middle of the year, and as such I have but limited options but to apply for jobs online even if it's not gonna be fruitful.
Better to try than to sit down waiting. CV has been modified based on the Aus preference, and cover letters are definitely tailored too.

Worst case scenario would just be to go there jobless and pick up whatever jobs available at the point.
Has anyone here managed to snag a job before the move to Aus after getting a PR? If so, how did it go? Thanks. =)
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A friend who's a qualified accountant and wife only spm. Both work with good pay back there while wife work as sales. They had their pr and they applied job offshore. Surprisingly the wife found a job offshore while hubby yet to get for years. Few years later wife promoted and manage to buy house and cars and support the whole family.

My point is there's no exact answer to your question. Sometimes luck just came to doorstep. Don't get yourself so proud with your bachelor degree coz it's everywhere. It's all about skills and talents.
Even I can't do what she did.

I landed perth jobless but I tried damn hard apply 10 jobs per day and bugging agents everyday. I landed with job in 2 weeks.
I do get stress what if no job but bite the bullet you'll walk thru. I get more negative comments than anyone else here evn my malaysia boss tan sri.

Don't get shoot down by negative comments on jobless. You'll learn something new from others. Bend your knees and back. Be humble

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post Jan 8 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 8 2016, 04:01 PM)
A friend who's a qualified accountant and wife only spm. Both work with good pay back there while wife work as sales. They had their pr and they applied job offshore. Surprisingly the wife found a job offshore while hubby yet to get for years. Few years later wife promoted and manage to buy house and cars and support the whole family.

My point is there's no exact answer to your question. Sometimes luck just came to doorstep. Don't get yourself so proud with your bachelor degree coz it's everywhere. It's all about skills and talents.
Even I can't do what she did.

I landed perth jobless but I tried damn hard apply 10 jobs per day and bugging agents everyday. I landed with job in 2 weeks.
I do get stress what if no job but bite the bullet you'll walk thru. I get more negative comments than anyone else here evn my malaysia boss tan sri.

Don't get shoot down by negative comments on jobless. You'll learn something new from others. Bend your knees and back. Be humble
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my boss also gave negative comments sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2016, 04:40 PM

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Hi there, anyone has idea how much a professional engineer with 8 years experience is paid in Australia (Sydney)?

This post has been edited by jitshiong: Jan 8 2016, 04:40 PM
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post Jan 8 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 8 2016, 04:01 PM)
A friend who's a qualified accountant and wife only spm. Both work with good pay back there while wife work as sales. They had their pr and they applied job offshore. Surprisingly the wife found a job offshore while hubby yet to get for years. Few years later wife promoted and manage to buy house and cars and support the whole family.

My point is there's no exact answer to your question. Sometimes luck just came to doorstep. Don't get yourself so proud with your bachelor degree coz it's everywhere. It's all about skills and talents.
Even I can't do what she did.

I landed perth jobless but I tried damn hard apply 10 jobs per day and bugging agents everyday. I landed with job in 2 weeks.
I do get stress what if no job but bite the bullet you'll walk thru. I get more negative comments than anyone else here evn my malaysia boss tan sri.

Don't get shoot down by negative comments on jobless. You'll learn something new from others. Bend your knees and back. Be humble
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Well said
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post Jan 8 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ Jan 8 2016, 10:50 AM)
How is the Pearson exam if compared to IELTS since my agent suggesting to try that. I have google it and the feedback was mixed as some said it was tough while some said it is easier than IELTS. Can you share your experience since you did both IELTS & Pearson
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My IELTS result always ended up shorting 0.5 point in writing.
normally my R+L is 8.5-9 and my speaking is 7.5-8.
writing 6.5

Saw many review saying PEARSON is damn easy and everyone seems like scoring high points then decided to give it a go.
When i first tried pearson, i get 79 for writing, R+L around 73, but my speaking 61...
Tried few times, speaking points is even lower sad.gif
And the worst part is, my points for R+L also declining...
ended up going back to Ielts...and passed my writing finally...

i would really think that it is purely based on individual.
If writing and time is not a problem for you, you can go for IELTS.
However, if you stuck in writing all the time and short of time then try pearson.

I personally think that IELTS is actually easier in terms of overall test.
Unlike pearson, each and every section is related and will effect the points for each sections.
And have a lot of question types which i personally think is rather confusing.

Also over the few attempts my IELTS points is quite stable. definitely more than 7.5 for other sections and only need to practice in W.
However, PEARSON points variance a lot everytime. And i actually sat for my PEARSON test in AUG, where they held the test in a very small room and literally the candidates beside you can be really distracting sad.gif
Also dont forget there are many preparation materials available for IELTS compared to Pearson.

I would suggest probably try IELTS first. Then if couldnt get the desire score then only try Pearson.
I can give you the book and CDs for PEARSON if you want. Just PM me.

This post has been edited by lilfire: Jan 8 2016, 10:44 PM
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post Jan 9 2016, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(lilfire @ Jan 8 2016, 10:39 PM)
My IELTS result always ended up shorting 0.5 point in writing.
normally my R+L is 8.5-9 and my speaking is 7.5-8.
writing 6.5

Saw many review saying PEARSON is damn easy and everyone seems like scoring high points then decided to give it a go.
When i first tried pearson, i get 79 for writing, R+L around 73, but my speaking 61...
Tried few times, speaking points is even lower sad.gif
And the worst part is, my points for R+L also declining...
ended up going back to Ielts...and passed my writing finally...

i would really think that it is purely based on individual.
If writing and time is not a problem for you, you can go for IELTS.
However, if you stuck in writing all the time and short of time then try pearson.

I personally think that IELTS is actually easier in terms of overall test.
Unlike pearson, each and every section is related and will effect the points for each sections.
And have a lot of question types which i personally think is rather confusing.

Also over the few attempts my IELTS points is quite stable. definitely more than 7.5 for other sections and only need to practice in W.
However, PEARSON points variance a lot everytime. And i actually sat for my PEARSON test in AUG, where they held the test in a very small room and literally the candidates beside you can be really distracting sad.gif
Also dont forget there are many preparation materials available for IELTS compared to Pearson.

I would suggest probably try IELTS first. Then if couldnt get the desire score then only try Pearson.
I can give you the book and CDs for PEARSON if you want. Just PM me.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. I took IELTS twice, one in 2013 and the second time last year because I was trying to get more points in order to qualify for SA high points. For IELTS, it is always writing section which I fear the most. The other sections are fine for me as my score is between 8 to 9. I have watched some YouTube videos on Pearson and the part which I worries the most is the speaking part on summarising the lecture played. Another concern which you have mentioned also is the close proximity between candidates which can be distracting as you would be able to hear each other and affect your listening exam.
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post Jan 9 2016, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ Jan 9 2016, 01:52 PM)
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I took IELTS twice, one in 2013 and the second time last year because I was trying to get more points in order to qualify for SA high points. For IELTS, it is always writing section which I fear the most. The other sections are fine for me as my score is between 8 to 9. I have watched some YouTube videos on Pearson and the part which I worries the most is the speaking part on summarising the lecture played. Another concern which you have mentioned also is the close proximity between candidates which can be distracting as you would be able to hear each other and affect your listening exam.
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For me summarising of lecture is quite ok. The part that i hate the most is describe the chart/picture.
I always dont have enough time to skim through and end up dont know what to say or say too much useless thing sad.gif

Then just give Pearson a go.
But probably try other center but not AUG.
It is very distracting. It is literally just like 10 cm beside you.
So far all the candidates that i knew through AUG pearson didnt managed to pass their speaking. Even after few attempts.
I'm not sure is it the mic problem because everyone speak well and all also stuck in IELTS for W only but score flying colour in S.

And they will give u a time to test your mic for Pearson.
When i took pearson in Aust, the mic sounds ok.
But in AUG, the mic will sounds horrible with a lot of background noises from other candidates and also the mic seems unable to capture if you are loud but if you are speaking at normal volume other candidates voice will over you sad.gif
My advise will be if you really intend to take Pearson in Aug, maybe can discuss with them to at least start a little bit later compare to other candidates at least can reduce background noise...

This post has been edited by lilfire: Jan 9 2016, 08:36 PM
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post Jan 10 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 8 2016, 04:01 PM)
A friend who's a qualified accountant and wife only spm. Both work with good pay back there while wife work as sales. They had their pr and they applied job offshore. Surprisingly the wife found a job offshore while hubby yet to get for years. Few years later wife promoted and manage to buy house and cars and support the whole family.

My point is there's no exact answer to your question. Sometimes luck just came to doorstep. Don't get yourself so proud with your bachelor degree coz it's everywhere. It's all about skills and talents.
Even I can't do what she did.

I landed perth jobless but I tried damn hard apply 10 jobs per day and bugging agents everyday. I landed with job in 2 weeks.
I do get stress what if no job but bite the bullet you'll walk thru. I get more negative comments than anyone else here evn my malaysia boss tan sri.

Don't get shoot down by negative comments on jobless. You'll learn something new from others. Bend your knees and back. Be humble
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Thanks for sharing.

Good to know about you friend's situation and their success.

Kinda suspect that it'll be a similar case when it's time to go there.
Well, life will be such: adapt or go back empty handed.

The local working experience is applicable regardless of jobs? If I work as a cashier for a year, it's considered 1 year general work experience/'working in Australia' experience?
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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 10 2016, 01:01 AM)
Thanks for sharing.

Good to know about you friend's situation and their success.

Kinda suspect that it'll be a similar case when it's time to go there.
Well, life will be such: adapt or go back empty handed.

The local working experience is applicable regardless of jobs? If I work as a  cashier for a year, it's considered 1 year general work experience/'working in Australia' experience?
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Don't be shy, embrace the Australian culture and adapt to their ways of living. It is much easier to get a job when an Asian turned up with speaking and behaving like the locals. Almost all the Asians in my company which is very limited behaves different to a normal Malaysian. Do note that I'm not asking you to forgo your roots.

Yes you are correct, but how much is it applicable in the next interview, it's up to you to stir your shit through with the hiring manager.
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QUOTE(Soony @ Jan 10 2016, 11:30 AM)
Don't be shy, embrace the Australian culture and adapt to their ways of living. It is much easier to get a job when an Asian turned up with speaking and behaving like the locals. Almost all the Asians in my company which is very limited behaves different to a normal Malaysian. Do note that I'm not asking you to forgo your roots.

Yes you are correct, but how much is it applicable in the next interview, it's up to you to stir your shit through with the hiring manager.
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Good Advice. Don't forget one's roots, yet do assimilate.

I've seen too many who refuse or cannot do this and it's been nothing but complaints from these sorts.

Whenever they ask me about difficulties, I honestly say I didn't face any sort of issues because I've always been thought to somehow assimilate with local cultures.


Dunno la why some people so stubborn.
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QUOTE(kagenn @ Jan 10 2016, 01:01 AM)
Thanks for sharing.

Good to know about you friend's situation and their success.

Kinda suspect that it'll be a similar case when it's time to go there.
Well, life will be such: adapt or go back empty handed.

The local working experience is applicable regardless of jobs? If I work as a  cashier for a year, it's considered 1 year general work experience/'working in Australia' experience?
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That's a general experience working culture. The best is on your job profession.
Some work experience transferable but some were not. 1st 2 years is pain in the neck. After that, you'll be on track
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post Jan 10 2016, 06:05 PM

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Hi there guys, sorry if I'm asking the same old questions everyone here asked before.
I have around 5 years of working experience delivering services in support department here in Malaysia.
Tried to search around most of the websites for Australia job, but unable to identify which are for overseas employee like me.
I do have a relative in Melbourne, did ask my relative to intro me some IT jobs, but unfortunately we are both in different department.

He himself is sponsored by company to be able to live in Melb and work in Melb.

I would like to ask what is my alternative to be able to find a job over there starting from now?

Thanks sir for your time.
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post Jan 10 2016, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ Jan 10 2016, 06:05 PM)
Hi there guys, sorry if I'm asking the same old questions everyone here asked before.
I have around 5 years of working experience delivering services in support department here in Malaysia.
Tried to search around most of the websites for Australia job, but unable to identify which are for overseas employee like me.
I do have a relative in Melbourne, did ask my relative to intro me some IT jobs, but unfortunately we are both in different department.

He himself is sponsored by company to be able to live in Melb and work in Melb.

I would like to ask what is my alternative to be able to find a job over there starting from now?

Thanks sir for your time.
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Get a PR.
http://www.border.gov.au

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QUOTE(Soony @ Jan 10 2016, 11:30 AM)
Don't be shy, embrace the Australian culture and adapt to their ways of living. It is much easier to get a job when an Asian turned up with speaking and behaving like the locals. Almost all the Asians in my company which is very limited behaves different to a normal Malaysian. Do note that I'm not asking you to forgo your roots.

Yes you are correct, but how much is it applicable in the next interview, it's up to you to stir your shit through with the hiring manager.
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Adapting should be alright, I quite enjoy absorbing values or traits that I find beneficial to myself.

The only part I'm worried is just the way people there drink, and the possibility they may outcast those who can't drink or are allergic to alcohol.


QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jan 10 2016, 12:20 PM)
Good Advice. Don't forget one's roots, yet do assimilate.

I've seen too many who refuse or cannot do this and it's been nothing but complaints from these sorts.

Whenever they ask me about difficulties, I honestly say I didn't face any sort of issues because I've always been thought to somehow assimilate with local cultures.
Dunno la why some people so stubborn.
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One of the issues I've seen with people is a very pro-western or pro-eastern mentality. It's always a race versus race kind of thing, which defines who they are.
It's like a set of values that they can never imagine changing or removing from themselves.

Pros and cons to that I guess, but it's just hard to understand those who don't try to make the best out of whatever is available to them and remain so stubborn.


QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Jan 10 2016, 12:54 PM)
That's a general experience working culture. The best is on your job profession.
Some work experience transferable but some were not. 1st 2 years is pain in the neck. After that, you'll be on track
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Thanks, still doing what I can and applying for jobs that match my skill set while I am still in Msia.

Sad thing is, I know several people who are doing a similar job, and a lot of them are unable to find the desired job in Aus, which is quite stressful to know.

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Hi

So i tried ny luck and send my cv to australian migration company based in subang jaya.. they call me and set up an appointment for me to come in for consultation to migrate to australia.. they say i have potential to apply for skilled visa etc etc... just wanna meet up to discuss on how i can take the next step... they say they can intro me to work agents in australia

My question is... is this legit or scam?
Definitely no money or cost issue has been brought up.
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QUOTE(kaif14 @ Jan 10 2016, 11:22 PM)
Hi

So i tried ny luck and send my cv to australian migration company based in subang jaya.. they call me and set up an appointment for me to come in for consultation to migrate to australia.. they say i have potential to apply for skilled visa etc etc... just wanna meet up to discuss on how i can take the next step... they say they can intro me to work agents in australia

My question is... is this legit or scam?
Definitely no money or cost issue has been brought up.
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ask for the agent's MARA ID and validate it...


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post Jan 10 2016, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 10 2016, 11:32 PM)
ask for the agent's MARA ID and validate it...
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He did give his MARA ID.. but how to validate
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Jan 8 2016, 04:40 PM)
Hi there, anyone has idea how much a professional engineer with 8 years experience is paid in Australia (Sydney)?
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