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post Dec 16 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 16 2015, 01:18 PM)
Annoying, the number of posts here expecting instant answers without taking time to read thru the previous answers. U r on the web, right? Learn how to use Google first. If Google cannot find then ask.
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Come now, this LYN where people are expected to be spoonfed for free. it's not new and has been around for years biggrin.gif

I usually point people to LMGTFY as well.

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post Dec 16 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 16 2015, 01:36 PM)
A bad habit for some M'sians. Always looking for shortcuts and easy answers without bothering to research first.
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Quite a number of people wanted to move oversea but not serious in their hunt .

Have friends ask to inform them about openings , but didn't bother to look for them-self.

Usually this group of people I will just ignore , they arn't committed nor too serious to their job hunt , the forum here would be informative and constructive , if one make general study on situation "googling aroudn first" and ask critical info or info to clarify , then that would be better off for everyone .

Some very general question Like : I graduate Next Year from XX Uni with YY degree , what's my chance in Australia

- 1st didn't even state what are the job to look for , field ? industry ?
- 2nd didn't even check Uni recognition
- 3rd didn't bother to look through pass post ( can easily pick up experience other share then compare your status )
- Please be specific in problems and issues face
etc etc ...

Too many wanted spoon feed expecting an answer ...



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post Dec 16 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 16 2015, 01:36 PM)
A bad habit for some M'sians. Always looking for shortcuts and easy answers without bothering to research first.
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I like your first post. So many repeats, it's getting boring and makes them just look lazy.

I did HEAPS of reading and then engaged an agent because I honestly did not have time to go through everything repeatedly (paranoid OCD somewhat).

Also, fresh grads, take note- you're better off getting a job in Malaysia first, get some experience. SOL on list= you get points. Stop being lazy; READ (you're generation Google, so.. GOOGLE).

IELTS 7 for most professions. If you cannot do this, you're either going to be repeating or please just see if there's an alternative (PTE or something). rclxub.gif
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post Dec 16 2015, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin988 @ Dec 16 2015, 01:11 PM)
So u only get your job after u get your pr thr?
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Please take the advice of the rest- go through the Immigration website and this forum, page by page. If you are lazy (most Malaysians are becoming increasingly lazy these days, all want to be spoon fed), then sorry, we are not here to suap k.

NO PR- NO JOB. Simple as that.

Plus you're a long way from graduation. Do what Nemesis1980 suggested- get a job in Malaysia, get experience (more points for this), and also between the ages of 25-32, you'll collect the highest points for the age factor.

A lot of changes happen every 1 July. We are not some sort of fortune tellers, so we cannot predict what might be and such. Best bet? You go read up.
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post Dec 16 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(titarium @ Dec 16 2015, 04:57 PM)
Quite a number of people wanted to move oversea but not serious in their hunt .

Have friends ask to inform them about openings , but didn't bother to look for them-self.

Usually this group of people I will just ignore , they arn't committed nor too serious to their job hunt , the forum here would be informative and constructive , if one make general study on situation "googling aroudn first" and ask critical info or info to clarify , then that would be better off for everyone .

Some very general question Like : I graduate Next Year from XX Uni with YY degree , what's my chance in Australia

- 1st didn't even state what are the job to look for , field ? industry ?
- 2nd didn't even check Uni recognition
- 3rd didn't bother to look through pass post ( can easily pick up experience other share then compare your status )
- Please be specific in problems and issues face
etc etc ...

Too many wanted spoon feed expecting an answer ...
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Spoon feeding expected, and then want to go to Aus? Must be dreaming. I met Malaysians like this in Aus. All I can do is laugh and tell them they bring a bad name to Malaysia. Lazy bums. Well, more ignorant than lazy.
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post Dec 17 2015, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Dec 16 2015, 11:46 PM)
Spoon feeding expected, and then want to go to Aus? Must be dreaming. I met Malaysians like this in Aus. All I can do is laugh and tell them they bring a bad name to Malaysia. Lazy bums. Well, more ignorant than lazy.
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Maybe if the next guy ask again, we say no jobs, don't come to Aust.

Close case.
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post Dec 17 2015, 08:57 AM

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Guys, I think this thread is for them to query on migration. I won't mind to answer the question over and over again. We're the same situation before as them.
What annoying me is some questions is totally unanswerable like can i get a job offshore, no visa can work or not...
Really tired on these questions.
Please give more technical questions or something you're stuck in applying. We would love to help!

Again, please don't get us wrong that we're 'BABI' or ignorance. Your path we walked through before.
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post Dec 17 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ Dec 17 2015, 08:57 AM)
Guys, I think this thread is for them to query on migration. I won't mind to answer the question over and over again. We're the same situation before as them.
What annoying me is some questions is totally unanswerable like can i get a job offshore, no visa can work or not...
Really tired on these questions.
Please give more technical questions or something you're stuck in applying. We would love to help!

Again, please don't get us wrong that we're 'BABI' or ignorance. Your path we walked through before.
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Querying is okay, PROVIDED you also have done your homework and have run into issues whereby you don't understand stuff or you're at a roadblock.

Sometimes we cheer each other on as a means of support too, and provide recommendations for those who need it.

Not to those young 'uns who ask blatantly ignorant questions, like as if people here are part of Border Aus. This one damn over lah, right. Problem with the kids these days (not all, but most) is that they are just lazy. Laziness is something that I, personally will not tolerate. Stupidity is one thing, but laziness, oh no way no how.


Can filter one, those genuinely concerned and need help/ guidance, and those who are lazy & flood the thread with stupid q's.
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post Dec 17 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 17 2015, 06:45 AM)
Maybe if the next guy ask again, we say no jobs, don't come to Aust.

Close case.
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The Google generation. I don't get it. GOOGLE LA OMG. shakehead.gif
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Dec 17 2015, 01:05 PM)
Querying is okay, PROVIDED you also have done your homework and have run into issues whereby you don't understand stuff or you're at a roadblock.

Not to those young 'uns who ask blatantly ignorant questions, like as if people here are part of Border Aus.

Can filter one, those genuinely concerned and need help/ guidance, and those who are lazy & flood the thread with stupid q's.
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Don't mind the valid queries too. Intelligent questions or personal experience stories welcome. For example, share your personal experience in finding a job as a dog handler at a pet shop. Your experience on the first few months living in Wagga Wagga. Things that u can't find using a Google search.
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:32 AM

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Based on the quality of the question, I will gauge whether the person is worth helping or not.

If the person expects to be spoon fed, it's hard for them to be successful after migrating to Australia.
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post Dec 17 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Dec 17 2015, 11:32 AM)
Based on the quality of the question, I will gauge whether the person is worth helping or not.

If the person expects to be spoon fed, it's hard for them to be successful after migrating to Australia.
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+10000

Precisely. Spoon feeding doesn't work anywhere except in Malaysia (so unfortunate). The older generation are a different breed, though- everything was accomplished by using one's brains & capabilities.

Aus? don't even dream of spoon feeding. Ha.
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Seems like majority of LYNers are in Perth or going to move there smile.gif
Can I ask why?
I haven't been to Perth personally but I have been to Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, and Gold Coast
Finally decided to move to Sydney as I feel that there are more jobs there and I didn't want to go unemployed for too long.
Will look to relocate to a place of my liking once every thing is stable here for me smile.gif


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post Dec 17 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Dec 17 2015, 10:05 AM)
Querying is okay, PROVIDED you also have done your homework and have run into issues whereby you don't understand stuff or you're at a roadblock.

Sometimes we cheer each other on as a means of support too, and provide recommendations for those who need it.

Not to those young 'uns who ask blatantly ignorant questions, like as if people here are part of Border Aus. This one damn over lah, right. Problem with the kids these days (not all, but most) is that they are just lazy. Laziness is something that I, personally will not tolerate. Stupidity is one thing, but laziness, oh no way no how.
Can filter one, those genuinely concerned and need help/ guidance, and those who are lazy & flood the thread with stupid q's.
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I agree, I did my research before lodging the application myself, and that time I was in KL working Mon-Sat till late night.
Did IELTS, skills assessment, EOI as required.
All the information is readily available on the Immi website and everything is pretty straightforward.
Even applied for my de facto, got statutory declarations from parents and other evidence etc.
The only question I asked was how long it took the others for their visa grant, the waiting time is so torturing!
We got a direct grant for our PR exactly 60 days from application, I fed them all the information they could possibly want, didn't want them to ask for this and that missing docs tongue.gif

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post Dec 17 2015, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Dec 17 2015, 01:45 PM)
I agree, I did my research before lodging the application myself, and that time I was in KL working Mon-Sat till late night.
Did IELTS, skills assessment, EOI as required.
All the information is readily available on the Immi website and everything is pretty straightforward.
Even applied for my de facto, got statutory declarations from parents and other evidence etc.
The only question I asked was how long it took the others for their visa grant, the waiting time is so torturing!
We got a direct grant for our PR exactly 60 days from application, I fed them all the information they could possibly want, didn't want them to ask for this and that missing docs  tongue.gif
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yea it's actually quite straight forward, I was just jittery about the VETASSESS situation as they had some misunderstandings and I had to get mine reassessed twice! I read up SO MUCH and asked my agent so many questions hehe.

Same here; i Got my EOI invite 10 days after putting it in, and visa was granted around 55 days later. I was in shock, but absolutely stoked. smile.gif

Perth- weather wise it's great, and plus it was always easier for me to fly back during the breaks. Although now things are more expensive than the east coast, which is likely because of the mini boom (which is slowing down,apparently).
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QUOTE(azrb.com @ Dec 17 2015, 04:33 PM)
Seems like majority of LYNers are in Perth or going to move there  smile.gif
Can I ask why?
I haven't been to Perth personally but I have been to Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, and Gold Coast
Finally decided to move to Sydney as I feel that there are more jobs there and I didn't want to go unemployed for too long.
Will look to relocate to a place of my liking once every thing is stable here for me smile.gif
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Think its just a coincidence. In terms of numbers, I think Mel has the most migrants frm MY followed by Sydney.
There are definitely more jobs in Syd esp in finance. While Adelaide and Brisbane possibly hv a more laidback vibe and cheap rent, there are scarce jobs. Mel I feel has the best balance between jobs n property but salaries r much lower compared to Syd.
Syd is v expensive v congested. Long commute times. But it is a beautiful city in some parts n not as cold as Mel.
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Looks like you guys did one heck of a job deterring anymore questions from appearing.

On a side note, how are things in Sydney for anyone who's currently there?
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post Dec 23 2015, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(kagenn @ Dec 23 2015, 04:29 AM)
Looks like you guys did one heck of a job deterring anymore questions from appearing.

On a side note, how are things in Sydney for anyone who's currently there?
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Yes, no one seems to have intelligent questions.

Re Sydney - A broad question.

Depends which industry u r in (job stability, demand etc).
--If u hv right contact and experience, there will be jobs.

Real estate prices (rent or buy) still crazy but rumors that there will be a correction soon.

Traffic is mad, no change, take PT if possible.

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QUOTE(shazam7 @ Dec 23 2015, 07:58 AM)
Yes, no one seems to have intelligent questions.

Re Sydney - A broad question.

Depends which industry u r in (job stability, demand etc).
--If u hv right contact and experience, there will be jobs.

Real estate prices (rent or buy) still crazy but rumors that there will be a correction soon.

Traffic is mad, no change, take PT if possible.
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You know most of the states in Australia
Where are you based? tongue.gif
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post Dec 23 2015, 12:47 PM

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Well at work I always encourage people to ask question, to me no questions are stupid. So if anyone has any questions about migration, feel free to drop me a message and I will try my best to help out =)

I'm just a new migrant that was sponsored a working visa and PR after two years by my current company.

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