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 How To Check Your Forex Broker Is Genuine Or Scam, Real FX Broker VS Scam FX Broker

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What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.


MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators (except Cysec), Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC, Hong Kong SFC.


AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS THAT WITHOUT TIER 1 or 2 licenses. (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Comoros, Belize, Indonesia etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.


Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

Indication of SCAMs:
1. FIX RETURN (SCAM)
2. Unregulated, offshore regulated or white label(AR) brokers (Potential SCAM)
3. Lucrative upfront commission (SCAM)
4. Without live report/statement access or Myfxbook (Potential SCAM)
5. Fix exchange rate for deposit and withdrawal (SCAM)
6. Cash payment
7. Lock up period (Potential SCAM)
8. No segregated bank account
9. High monthly return with illogical low drawdown
10. Capital guaranteed
11. Fixed payout schedule or cycle
12. Funny story like ROI from rebates.
13. Owned by China boss.


Any FX companies matched at least 2 of above indications, it is a potential SCAM. If matched 3 of the above indications, then it is definitely a SCAM!

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List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. IC Markets
2. Pepperstone
3. Tradeview Markets
4. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
5. CMC Markets
6. Axi
7. equiti
8. Interactive Brokers
9. Finalto
10. FXCM
11. Saxobank
12. IG
13. FXPro
14. Oanda
15. BlueberryMarkets
16. One Royal
17. ATCBrokers
18. Velocity Trade
19. Bloomberg
20. Noor Capital
21. ZeroMarkets
22. Swissquote
23. TMGM
24. ATFX
25. EightCap
26. Moomoo
27. CFI
28. OPOFinance
29. Exness
30. Hantec Markets
31. LMAX
32. FXPro
33. Global Prime
34. Alchemy Markets
35. Varianse
36. Tickmill
37. Trade.com
38. ADS Securities
39. Markets.com
40. YCM-Invest
41. City Index (Gain Capital)
42. Scandinavian Markets
43. Capital.com
44. Plus500
45. HY Markets
46. ActivTrades
47. MAS Markets
48. Admiral Markets
49. Advanced Markets
50. ForexVox (ValuTrades)
51. Tigerwit
52. Pacific Financial Derivatives (PFD)
53. Rakuten Securities
54. GKFX
55. MiTrade
56. ValuTrades
57. FXOpen
58. EBC Financial Group
59. CMS Forex
60. GOMarkets
61. XM
62. FPMarkets
63. ThinkMarkets
64. FXTM
65. GMI (Global Market Index Limited)
66. Aetos
67. MaxFX
68. FBS
69. Kohle Capital Markets
70. Synergy FX
71. Halifax Investment Services
72. eToro
73. AAAFX
74. Amana Capital
75. FXTrading.com
76. EasyForex
77. AVAFX
78. GBE Broker



List of Genuine Forex Investments
1. VESBOLT


List of BAD B BOOK FX Brokers that you should avoid !ALERT!

1. HFM
2. Blackbull
3. FXPrimus
4. EC Markets
5. Infinox

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List of SCAM Forex Firms/Brokers !ALERT!

1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. GM Trader (TriumphFX)
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29. PTFX
30. Falconaire
31. FIN888 (SamTradeFX)
32. Xtrade
33. iiinvestments
34. Exia International Group
35. MYS CAPITAL (SFX Markets)
36. Zurich Prime
37. VenusFX
38. WMS Capital
39. MXC Forex
40. ECM
41. Sentratama Investor Future
42. Midasama (Pruton Capital)
43. FG GLOBAL ENRICH (White Label of Fullerton Markets)
44. FCMIS
45. ODIN Management (odincapital.com)
46. BlueMax Capital
47. Questra
48. Atlantic Global Asset Management
49. FXPrimus
50. OctaFX
51. AccentForex
52. Financial.org
53. OTM Capital
54. MG Falconer (TP Eagle)
55. Starexfx
56. FintechFX (MIA)
57. SuperForex
58. Algotechs
59. Bealgo
60. FiFx Global
61. UTS (Sentratama)
62. Blue Trading
63. Midtou Financials
64. OTM Capital (Midtou)
65. MX Capital (Scrptx Portfolio)
66. EssenceFX
67. Tradesto
68. GCG Asia
69. Gold Tinkle - Genesis Business Group
70. WikiFX (fxeye.com)
71. TradeFred - BrightFX Capital Limited (MIA)
72. Smart Contract Group
73. OlympusFX
74. AIP
75. Ocean Bliss Investments (oceanicblissfx)
76. IronFX
77. Veonco Group
78. ECM Trader (ECM Group)
79. CK Ltd.
80. Daweda (Midasama)
81. HiiFX
82. HKdahui
83. Trilasia.com
84. Stone Lion Financial
85. Throne Legacy Capital 腾乐
86. Fullerton Markets
87. NARTT
88. Oribix
89. Awe SwissFX
90. CTIN (MDCFOREX)
91. MAXWISE Union (Sentratama)
92. TrealFX
93. 360coinpath
94. Jadesan Capital Investments (JCI)
95. Orion Star Capital
96. Maxi Services
97. Mahamudra (MMDFX)
98. Forex Chief
99. ATA Markets
100. Juze Investment
101. CP Markets (CooperMarkets.com)
102. FDX Capital (fdxcap.com)
103. Vextrader
104. Arotrade
105. MFM Group (MFM Securities) Union Technology Platform
106. Starling Gold Asset Management HK
107. SamTradeFX
108. Victory Trade International (VTFX)
109. Zentrade (NET89)
110. MaxGlobalFX (NET89)
111. Global Premier (NET89)
112. iAL Group
113. EOB Corporation/EOB Infinity/EOB Miles (TriumphFX)
114. GFS Asia (Janis Urste)
115. Grex Capital
116. Trivial Capital (Grex)
117. Raffles Market FX
118. GST HUB
119. Sky Markets
120. Unison Corporation
121. Jireh Trillions Berjangka
122. Quantic Venture
123. DRCFX
124. AiProFX (YunikonFX)
125. PrimaFX / Prima International
126. FVP Trade
127. Panthera Trade & Pansaka (AutoTrade Gold)
128. AMG Capital (TriumphFX)
129. Herzen (AIFC Technology)
130. Goldenaire (TriumphFX)
131. ASJ Forex Global
132. MogaFX
133. FX Winning
134. VLADO
135. OPIXTECH (RAYNAR Prime)
136. Lirunex
137. UEZ Markets
138. ULTIMATE PINNACLE (Rainmaker Quantum)
139. XAU Merlion (DymonFX)
140. Dollars Markets
141. UW Global (Sentratama - Janis Urste)
142. Tradehall (ValueEnvision)
143. Ridder Trader
144. DMT (Tradehall)
145. CCT (TriumphFX)
146. Wikifx
147. European Credit Investment Bank Ltd (Labuan)
148. Global Trade Finance (BOStrading)
149. Crownstone Private Investments (Lirunex)
150. OXSecurities
151. InstaForex
152. Ultima Markets.
153. PUPrime
154. Gold Fun (AGA)
155. Maxima
156. InterTrader
157. Raze Markets




List of Genuine CRYPTOS
1. Bitcoin
2. Bitcoin Cash
3. Ripple
4. Ethereum
5. Litecoin
6. Dash
7. Neo
8. EOS
9. Qtum
10. Ontology
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.


List of Suspicious CRYPTO Companies (SCAM!)

1. OneCoin
2. WoToken
3. S Block
4. Plus Token
5. Sixmos
6. Emas Fintech
7. Crypto Grand Trade FX
8. CoinCat
9. Loom-X
10.


In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.


LEARN THE SIMILARITY OF FX SCAMS FROM MYFXBOOK.

Priority check: Check the broker on Myfxbook top left corner. If you find the unknown broker did not hold top tier 1 or 2 licenses (UK, Swiss, US, Australia, Canada, SG, Japan), AVOID IT. Scammers will not spend millions dollar to buy a good license for the purpose of scam. All FX SCAMS operate and collect funds by using offshore firms.

Secondary check: Check the Myfxbook performance on the left which stated Monthly and Drawdown. If you find illogical high returns and low drawdown, you sense something wrong. God does not exist in the real trading world. Every trader experienced drawdown.

Third check: All the charts of FX SCAMS have pretty solid growth curve, without zip zap nor drawdown period. They cant afford to have any drawdown as this will kill the investors and marketers confident.


[After this post, SCAMMERS may start to raise their drawdown. Yet they still can't get any top-tier license.] devil.gif

We have picked 5 FX SCAMS as examples for everyone to learn the skill. Please check out the Myfxbook screenshot as below.

1. MIA (James Harisson) - Game over, all investors suffered total loss.
2. TriumphFX (EOB) - Scammed several times via Hong Kong, New Zealand firms. Remain very active. Mislead by Cysec license, but in fact they are scamming with offshore.
3. SamTradeFX (FIN888) - Very active. Offshore unregulated. Use white label license to mislead investors.
4. VexTrader - Very active. Offshore unregulated. Mislead by using Canada FINTRAC and Dubai DED, both not FX license, Canada Financial license is under IIROC and Dubai is DFSA.
5. Grex Capital - Very active. Using Labuan license to mislead, it's a tier 3 license without strict requirement.


DONT LET THE FX SCAMMERS CHEAT YOUR HARD EARN MONEY DURING THIS MCO!

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RULES OF THE THREAD
1. NO MERCY FOR ANYONE WHO DEFENDING FX SCAMS.
2. Never forgot rules number 1.
3: Remember rules number 1.


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hmm.gif how am I sure that the names on that 2 lists you had posted are genuine (as separately listed as genuine/scam) and up to date? when was the last time they are updated?
who, where, how they are verified and confirmed true?
Did you get it from statutory bodies?
can provide the links?

Even Bank Negara has this disclaimer on their list for listing something like this....
"Based on information received by BNM, below is the list of known companies and websites which are not authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered by BNM:"
as sample of listing from BNM.....
http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2015/20151013_FCA_EN.pdf

BNM has this on its link too....
"This list has been compiled based on information, complaints and queries received by BNM regarding the activities of the persons and entities concerned. This list is not exhaustive and the Bank will update the list periodically from time to time. The list is intended to serve as a guide to the public.
The public is advised not to make any deposit or investment with individuals and entities that are not regulated under the relevant laws and should conduct the necessary checks with the relevant authorities if there are doubts regarding any schemes offered. The public is also advised to refer to the Investor Alert and information on enforcement actions published by the Securities Commission of Malaysia (SC) which is accessible via the following links:
• SC's Investor Alerts
• SC's Enforcement Actions
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_fina...eralert&lang=en

hmm.gif ELSE, this thread is ...... hmm.gif

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hmm.gif Come to think about it....
what is GENUINE may not be LEGAL in Malaysia.... biggrin.gif

Illegal Foreign Exchange Trading Scheme refers to the buying or selling of foreign currency by an individual or company in Malaysia with any person who is not a licensed onshore bank or any person who has not obtained the approval of Bank Negara Malaysia under the Financial Services Act 2013 or Islamic Financial Services Act 2013.

How it's done?
........
http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm

How to Protect Yourself?
• Deal only with licensed onshore banks;
• Check with the relevant authorities before remitting/ investing/ depositing;
• Be extra careful with investments over the internet;
• Be sceptical of any investment opportunity that is not in writing; and
• In case an investment has been made, keep copies of all the investment and communications

Licensed onshore banks to conduct foreign currency trading in Malaysia are as follows:
•Commercial banks
•Islamic banks
•Investment banks
•International Islamic banks

http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm

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How about exness ?
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I thought only the ones offered by our banks are legal?
The rest are illegal isn't?
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Nov 14 2015, 01:07 PM)
I thought only the ones offered by our banks are legal?
The rest are illegal isn't?
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from earlier posting...
Illegal Foreign Exchange Trading Scheme refers to the buying or selling of foreign currency by an individual or company in Malaysia with any person who is not a licensed onshore bank or any person who has not obtained the approval of Bank Negara Malaysia under the Financial Services Act 2013 or Islamic Financial Services Act 2013.

also for the listed banks....
http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm
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This is interesting because I have seen a number of private dealers advertising on business cards. Or is this allowed?
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QUOTE(highwaytuner @ Nov 14 2015, 09:07 PM)
This is interesting because I have seen a number of private dealers advertising on business cards.  Or is this allowed?
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By right under the money service business act 2011 section 23, the use of the wording (as picture) can be fine up to 5million or jail up to 10 years of both

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 14 2015, 07:42 AM)
hmm.gif how am I sure that the names on that 2 lists you had posted are genuine (as separately listed as genuine/scam) and up to date? when was the last time they are updated?
who, where, how they are verified and confirmed true?
Did you get it from statutory bodies?
can provide the links?

Even Bank Negara has this disclaimer on their list for listing something like this....
"Based on information received by BNM, below is the list of known companies and websites which are not authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered by BNM:"
as sample of listing from BNM.....
http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2015/20151013_FCA_EN.pdf

BNM has this on its link too....
"This list has been compiled based on information, complaints and queries received by BNM regarding the activities of the persons and entities concerned. This list is not exhaustive and the Bank will update the list periodically from time to time. The list is intended to serve as a guide to the public.
The public is advised not to make any deposit or investment with individuals and entities that are not regulated under the relevant laws and should conduct the necessary checks with the relevant authorities if there are doubts regarding any schemes offered. The public is also advised to refer to the Investor Alert and information on enforcement actions published by the Securities Commission of Malaysia (SC) which is accessible via the following links:
• SC's Investor Alerts
• SC's Enforcement Actions
http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_fina...eralert&lang=en

hmm.gif ELSE, this thread is ...... hmm.gif
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Above lists are based on international Forex regulation standard, not Malaysia BNM.

Thank you.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 14 2015, 08:39 AM)
hmm.gif Come to think about it....
what is GENUINE may not be LEGAL in Malaysia.... biggrin.gif

Illegal Foreign Exchange Trading Scheme refers to the buying or selling of foreign currency by an individual or company in Malaysia with any person who is not a licensed onshore bank or any person who has not obtained the approval of Bank Negara Malaysia under the Financial Services Act 2013 or Islamic Financial Services Act 2013.

How it's done?
........
http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm

How to Protect Yourself?
• Deal only with licensed onshore banks;
• Check with the relevant authorities before remitting/ investing/ depositing;
• Be extra careful with investments over the internet;
• Be sceptical of any investment opportunity that is not in writing; and
• In case an investment has been made, keep copies of all the investment and communications

Licensed onshore banks to conduct foreign currency trading in Malaysia are as follows:
•Commercial banks
•Islamic banks
•Investment banks
•International Islamic banks

http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm
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Indeed Forex is considered illegal in Malaysia, but doesn't mean Forex is illegal entirely in terms of globalisation. Above warning/information from BNM is purely based on BNM licensing perspective to protect themselves as well as the citizen. As long as you are trading with a tier 1 licensed FX broker, then you are completely safe.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 14 2015, 10:13 AM)
How about exness ?
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Exness obtained a Cyprus license and it seems that they are genuine but doesnt mean they are good. Trade with tier 1 license FX broker will be safer bet. Tier 1 licensed FX brokers are those regulated and licensed under UK, Swiss, US, Japan and Germany regulators.
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Nov 14 2015, 01:07 PM)
I thought only the ones offered by our banks are legal?
The rest are illegal isn't?
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Indeed, if you are based on BNM perspective. We trust UK, Swiss, US, Japan and Germany regulators more than BNM, if you know what i mean.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 14 2015, 01:13 PM)
from earlier posting...
Illegal Foreign Exchange Trading Scheme refers to the buying or selling of foreign currency by an individual or company in Malaysia with any person who is not a licensed onshore bank or any person who has not obtained the approval of Bank Negara Malaysia under the Financial Services Act 2013 or Islamic Financial Services Act 2013.

also for the listed banks....
http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm
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Yes, you are right as a lawful Malaysian.

However, if you admire the international financial regulation, then you will have different point of view instead of just blindly referring to BNM. They are right in terms of protecting Malaysia citizen. As for us, we trust UK, Swiss, US, Japan and Germany regulation as the international financial standard. Furthermore, nowadays BNM integrity has become a big question in terms of dealing with recent hot topic which make Malaysia a well known country for the wrong reason.
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QUOTE(highwaytuner @ Nov 14 2015, 09:07 PM)
This is interesting because I have seen a number of private dealers advertising on business cards.  Or is this allowed?
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Yes and no, depending your perspective and the kind of business activities/structure.
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QUOTE(hujimy @ Nov 14 2015, 10:46 PM)
odfx scam ??

This company has very impressive marketing and branding. This does not mean it is not a scam. Above showed are paid either by the owner own money or worse by investors fund.

Any FX company operate and collect funds from investors without proper financial license (At least tier 1 or 2 financial license) are considered scam.
Any FX company with lucrative up front commission for agents and locked clients funds for certain period are completely scam.

Why there is a must to have a top tier license as a genuine broker?

1. Owner cannot run away with your money. The regulator will protect the clients on certain level and hunt the FX broker down if any wrong doing.
2. Well licensed FX brokers required to fulfil regulators requirements especially auditing and compliance rules & regulation.
3. Transparency and no hanky panky.
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Our comparison is more on genuine FX brokers and scam FX brokers. Not common genuine FX brokers complaints.

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QUOTE(sicklad77 @ Nov 15 2015, 07:10 PM)
By right under the money service business act 2011 section 23, the use of the wording (as picture) can be fine up to 5million or jail up to 10 years of both

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Perhaps they should keep it private.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jul 11 2016, 02:36 AM)
Perhaps they should keep it private.
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Yeah that's why. But it's another to openly advertise it out there in malaysia and another to query why the law is there and our regulators ain't doing anything about it.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jul 11 2016, 01:49 AM)
Indeed Forex is considered illegal in Malaysia, but doesn't mean Forex is illegal entirely in terms of globalisation. Above warning/information from BNM is purely based on BNM licensing perspective to protect themselves as well as the citizen. As long as you are trading with a tier 1 licensed FX broker, then you are completely safe.
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hmm.gif .....just got this from the news.....
............It said consumers should be careful when dealing with unregulated entities or individuals as there would be consequences.

“Consumer protection under the law administered by Bank Negara is not applicable, should members of the public choose to deal with illegal financial service providers.

“Those who participate in illegal financial activities could also be charged under the law for abetting operators of such illegal activities,” it added.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...hquick-schemes/

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jul 11 2016, 02:33 AM)
Good finding! There are always complaints for FX brokers where losers are not happy with the widening spreads and probably reqoute. This is considered very normal for every brokers where they or their liquidity providers are trying to protect themselves during high volatility or extreme market conditions. Even banks have the same issues.

Our comparison is more on genuine FX brokers and scam FX brokers. Not common genuine FX brokers complaints.
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I've used IC Markets for 2 years and had no problem with the withdrawals all these time. There was one issue last year where the server failed or something and people couldn't close their orders (i forgot, it was a long time ago) but I got refunded for it later on.

I'm using Tallinex now and has also heard very good reviews regarding Global Prime incase anyone wishes to know.

Cheers
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this was in the news few days back....
More young M’sians falling prey to forex schemes

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/newsother/mo...ocid=spartandhp
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jul 11 2016, 02:36 AM)
Perhaps they should keep it private.
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may I know why Triumph was classified as not genuine? is it a scam?
and my fren introduce me another broker called IgoFX. this one also not genuine?

thanks!

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XM is not on the list ?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 16 2016, 08:41 AM)
this was in the news few days back....
More young M’sians falling prey to forex schemes

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/newsother/mo...ocid=spartandhp
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nah,..yours is few days back... tongue.gif
this is just now..... biggrin.gif

Forex scheme woes
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ex-scheme-woes/


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XM is not on the list ?
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xm give bonus usually broker that give bonus are not quite good...
but i'm using xm i already have many 5digit withdrawal amount it takes 2-3days to your bank.

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Hi all sifus,

Can anyone pls help me clarify if TP Eagles is genuine or only a scam?

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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.


MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.


Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. FXDD
9. FXCM
10. HY Markets
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. Saxobank
15. ADS Securities
16. LMAX
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30.
31.
32.


List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Capital Foster Advisor
23. Otex World
24.
25.

In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.

This post has been edited by DrFX: Dec 20 2016, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 13 2016, 03:16 AM)
How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. FXDD
9. FXCM
10. HY Markets
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkForex
13. EasyForex
14. Saxobank
15. ADS Securities
16. LMAX
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Pepperstone
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29.
30.
List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20.
21.
22.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you. Please combine this thread with https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3774126/+20 once reopen.
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Hello just wanted to check yeah, why is IGOFx scam? I have friends who invested ther for months and withdrawal have no issue, i read general reviews and wanted to do affiliate marketing for this site, kindly provide me more information so i can decide whether to go with them or not
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Hello just wanted to check yeah, why is IGOFx scam? I have friends who invested ther for months and withdrawal have no issue, i read general reviews and wanted to do affiliate marketing for this site, kindly provide me more information so i can decide whether to go with them or not
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Me wanna know too. Please provide evidence. Thanks
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QUOTE(wan7075 @ Jul 16 2016, 01:36 PM)
may I know why Triumph was classified as not genuine? is it a scam?
and my fren introduce me another broker called IgoFX. this one also not genuine?

thanks!
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TriumphFX investors have reported unable to withdraw their money. With no surprise, they have scammed many investors and recent month obtained a rubbish license from Vanuatu to scam another round. You don't want to be the next victims. TriumphFX did not provide real time trading results and most of their trades are manipulated to impress innocent investors.

IGOFX is using the same method to scam innocent investors by showing too good to be true trading results which usually are not real. We have done several due diligence and based our professionalism and experiences, we have concluded that IGOFX is another scam Forex broker.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?

Beside TriumphFX, there are few others scam brokers using the same method have successfully scammed many innocent investors including GSM, NewTradeFX, FX United, etc.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif
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How about fxprimus , is that genuine now?
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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Dec 18 2016, 01:02 PM)
How about fxprimus , is that genuine now?
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Hi Alissa,

FXPrimus used to be a FX broker with plenty of bad slippages. Since their Mauritius license suspended, they have obtained Cyprus CySEC FX license and operate as an European entity. Due to their bad records, we do not list them on genuine FX brokers.

Personally i won't pick them as my FX broker since there are plenty of choices out there.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 18 2016, 04:40 AM)
TriumphFX investors have reported unable to withdraw their money. With no surprise, they have scammed many investors and recent month obtained a rubbish license from Vanuatu to scam another round. You don't want to be the next victims. TriumphFX did not provide real time trading results and most of their trades are manipulated to impress innocent investors.

IGOFX is using the same method to scam innocent investors by showing too good to be true trading results which usually are not real. We have done several due diligence and based our professionalism and experiences, we have concluded that IGOFX is another scam Forex broker.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?

Beside TriumphFX, there are few others scam brokers using the same method have successfully scammed many innocent investors including GSM, NewTradeFX, FX United, etc.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC.  icon_question.gif
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I didn't hear the investors of TripumphFX that invest in Gold Master can't get their money.

Are you sure?
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 18 2016, 04:01 PM)
Hi Alissa,

FXPrimus used to be a FX broker with plenty of bad slippages. Since their Mauritius license suspended, they have obtained Cyprus CySEC FX license and operate as an European entity. Due to their bad records, we do not list them on genuine FX brokers.

Personally i won't pick them as my FX broker since there are plenty of choices out there.
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I see. just wondering are they still obtaining the tier 1 licenses (FCA etc) now ?
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Anything on Mocaz?
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 18 2016, 04:40 AM)
TriumphFX investors have reported unable to withdraw their money. With no surprise, they have scammed many investors and recent month obtained a rubbish license from Vanuatu to scam another round. You don't want to be the next victims. TriumphFX did not provide real time trading results and most of their trades are manipulated to impress innocent investors.

IGOFX is using the same method to scam innocent investors by showing too good to be true trading results which usually are not real. We have done several due diligence and based our professionalism and experiences, we have concluded that IGOFX is another scam Forex broker.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?

Beside TriumphFX, there are few others scam brokers using the same method have successfully scammed many innocent investors including GSM, NewTradeFX, FX United, etc.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC.  icon_question.gif
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1. How do u prove that is fake trading results ? U mean all fund manager trading results is fake or just impressive one only?
2. How do u check their trade are not real time ? can it be slippage?
3. Do u mean MT4 price movement are not real time follow the market?

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 18 2016, 04:07 PM)
I didn't hear the investors of TripumphFX that invest in Gold Master can't get their money.

Are you sure?
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Yes, we have the confirmation. Perhaps Gold Master is the plan B for TriumphFX to scam another round. New investors will continue getting partial withdrawal until they end the game.

jack2, why your lowyat forum status is banned?
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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Dec 18 2016, 04:59 PM)
I see. just wondering are they still obtaining the tier 1 licenses (FCA etc) now ?
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FXPrimus has FCA registration, not license. Every European licensed brokers allow to register with any European regulators based on cross border regulation. The rules could amend soon after brexit.
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QUOTE(AzureOfSky @ Dec 18 2016, 05:10 PM)
Anything on Mocaz?
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Mocaz Financial Markets Limited is Suite 305, Griffith Corporate Centre, P.O Box 1510, Beachmont, Kingstown St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

I will avoid them if i were you. It is an unregulated broker.

Hope this help.
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QUOTE(xpmm @ Dec 18 2016, 05:48 PM)
i wonder why FXCM is in Singapore MAS Investor Alert List, Oanda Fxpro etc are not in the list.
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Our understanding is FXCM used to have rep office in Singapore without Singapore MAS license and their IB were actively solicit Singaporean. It may have caused them being listed on MAS alert list many years ago.
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QUOTE(SKL @ Dec 18 2016, 11:02 PM)
1. How do u prove that is fake trading results ? U mean all fund manager trading results is fake or just impressive one only?
2. How do u check their trade are not real time ? can it be slippage?
3. Do u mean MT4 price movement are not real time follow the market?
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Thank you for your questions.

1. Our proprietary tool able to keep track all the trades LIVE and proven not all trades are opened at real time pricing.
2. Not real time mean when a new SELL position opened, the market price for EURUSD is 1.0452 but the trade manipulated to open at 1.0472 which immediately the trade gained 20 pips profits. But this trade does not forward to any liquidity provider, it's only show on the MT4 platform for the purpose of impress investors with fake results. Meaning to say that there is no real money generated from the trades.
3. MT4 is real, but the broker who manipulated the trades which make the trades not real. When any broker hold a MT4 platform license, they are capable of editing the trades from top to bottom including the open price, date, time, closed price, etc. You can verify this info with Metaquote, the software provider.

Above cases only happened in unregulated or offshore brokers where there are no strict requirements, rules and regulations. This method getting popular nowadays for scammers to cheat innocent investors. It's like an illusion, NOW YOU SEE ME. notworthy.gif


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Thank you for your questions.

1. Our proprietary tool able to keep track all the trades LIVE and proven not all trades are opened at real time pricing.
2. Not real time mean when a new SELL position opened, the market price for EURUSD is 1.0452 but the trade manipulated to open at 1.0472 which immediately the trade gained 20 pips profits. But this trade does not forward to any liquidity provider, it's only show on the MT4 platform for the purpose of impress investors with fake results. Meaning to say that there is no real money generated from the trades.
3. MT4 is real, but the broker who manipulated the trades which make the trades not real. When any broker hold a MT4 platform license, they are capable of editing the trades from top to bottom including the open price, date, time, closed price, etc. You can verify this info with Metaquote, the software provider.

Above cases only happened in unregulated or offshore brokers where there are no strict requirements, rules and regulations. This method getting popular nowadays for scammers to cheat innocent investors. It's like an illusion, NOW YOU SEE ME.  notworthy.gif
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I see, I re-interpret your statement to server side and client side for a technical engineer. the data from the server side can be changed to a faked data on one time moment, and then client side see the faked data in his MT4 since they did not verify the data in TV channel. hmm.gif
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FXPrimus has FCA registration, not license. Every European licensed brokers allow to register with any European regulators based on cross border regulation. The rules could amend soon after brexit.
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Just want to avoid my personal confusion. 1) regulated means some portion of money will be given back if broker/bank bankrupt (similar to PIDM in Malaysia) ? 2) Licensed means government permission to operate the business?
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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine :thumbsup:  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. FXDD
9. FXCM
10. HY Markets
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. Saxobank
15. ADS Securities
16. LMAX
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Pepperstone
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. Aetos
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32.
33.

List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Capital Foster Advisor
23. Otex World
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25.

In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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hi. JJPTR is now well known everywhere. please give some advice on this as it is under scam alert. tq
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hi. JJPTR is now well known everywhere. please give some advice on this as it is under scam alert. tq
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I see, I re-interpret your statement to server side and client side for a technical engineer. the data from the server side can be changed to a faked data on one time moment, and then client side see the faked data in his MT4 since they did not verify the data in TV channel.  hmm.gif
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That's correct. There is no way investors can monitor the MT4 platform every seconds 24 hours a day to check whether the trades are open at market price.

You can only check by a specific system design to keep track 24 hours on VPS.
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hi. JJPTR is now well known everywhere. please give some advice on this as it is under scam alert. tq
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It's a game or ponzi scheme you can call it...
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Hi drfx,

What about ikofx,fxcoliseum and FxCitizen?
Thanks
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Hi drfx,

What about ikofx,fxcoliseum and FxCitizen?
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Drfx went Christmas holidays.

Instead of keep asking these forex brokers, why don't you add the reliable broker which was stated in the first page to your wish list. Forex is a world of varying, so ppl need to equip to the ability to adapt based on varying situation, don't behave as stubborn child since ppl willing to give advice for free. It is hard to verify the correct, but it is easy to falsify. Try to avoid those have potential to go wrong before too late.
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Drfx went Christmas holidays.

Instead of keep asking these forex brokers, why don't you add the reliable broker which was stated in the first page to your wish list. Forex is a world of varying, so ppl need to equip to the ability to adapt based on varying situation, don't behave as stubborn child since ppl willing to give advice for free. It is hard to verify the correct, but it is easy to falsify. Try to avoid those have potential to go wrong before too late.
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Then I wait for him to come back! anyway if you like reliable let me give you one for mt4 citifx (Citibank also a Liquidity provider) smile.gif
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Then I wait for him to come back! anyway if you like reliable let me give you one for mt4 citifx (Citibank also a Liquidity provider) smile.gif
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We understand CitiFXPro has shut down it's operation as a FX retail broker in 2015

I am not sure which CitiFX are you talking about. Hopefully not the fishy one.

FXCM and Saxo Bank Acquire Citigroup’s CitiFX Pro Client Book
FXCM's US and UK entities will take over clients of Citi's respective regions, while Singapore business will be transferred to.
http://www.financemagnates.com/forex/broke...ro-client-book/


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Hi drfx,

What about ikofx,fxcoliseum and FxCitizen?
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Thanks for checking with us.

All above added to scam broker list.

Merry Christmas!
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We understand CitiFXPro has shut down it's operation as a FX retail broker in 2015

I am not sure which CitiFX are you talking about. Hopefully not the fishy one.

FXCM and Saxo Bank Acquire Citigroup’s CitiFX Pro Client Book
FXCM's US and UK entities will take over clients of Citi's respective regions, while Singapore business will be transferred to.
http://www.financemagnates.com/forex/broke...ro-client-book/
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Not sure Citifx? hrm what about J.P. Morgan market (also known a Liquidity provider). Another popular forex been took over by RHB/rhbgroup, call rhbinvest or maybank call maybank-ke in sg are this also genuine?
etoro now day also very popular for lazy trader like me is this genuine too?
No offence but Genuine topic for free.

Merry Christmas. HoHoHO

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Hi, I'm new to forex this thing and last night one my friend asked me to join IGOFX... I'm abit worry its scam so I done some research and I found this thread. Just wanna ask... is anyone can introduce any genuine forex trader or broker ya?
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Hi, I'm new to forex this thing and last night one my friend asked me to join IGOFX... I'm abit worry its scam so I done some research and I found this thread. Just wanna ask... is anyone can introduce any genuine forex trader or broker ya?
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Please be reminded.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/0203_forex.htm
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Illegal Foreign Exchange Trading Scheme refers to the buying or selling of foreign currency by an individual or company in Malaysia with any person who is not a licensed onshore bank or any person who has not obtained the approval of Bank Negara Malaysia under the Financial Services Act 2013 or Islamic Financial Services Act 2013.

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Hi drfx,

What about ikofx,fxcoliseum and FxCitizen?
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This topic is generously to avoid early bird to be conned by IB and help to reduce forex victim. Since you knew the answer well but still keep asking faked questions without provide anything helpful, it is easy to make people think you are one of the IB as the topic is threatening your personal hidden benefit.
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Globally, it's pretty hard to take BNM as a guide in Forex trading. It doesnt consist of international capital market guideline, just like 1MDB case. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Dec 23 2016, 09:15 AM)
Not sure Citifx? hrm what about J.P. Morgan market (also known a Liquidity provider). Another popular forex been took over by RHB/rhbgroup, call rhbinvest or maybank call maybank-ke in sg are this also genuine?
etoro now day also very popular for lazy trader like me is this genuine too?
No offence but Genuine topic for free.

Merry Christmas. HoHoHO
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We are concerned about the retail FX market scams instead of liquidity provider. RHBInvest is a great platform for stocks trading. thumbup.gif

Thanks for your input, eToro is a regulated broker and we have added to genuine brokers list.
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Hi, I'm new to forex this thing and last night one my friend asked me to join IGOFX... I'm abit worry its scam so I done some research and I found this thread. Just wanna ask... is anyone can introduce any genuine forex trader or broker ya?
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Are you looking to trade FX yourself or preferred to invest?

AVOID IGOFX at all cost.
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Globally, it's pretty hard to take BNM as a guide in Forex trading. It doesnt consist of international capital market guideline.
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The ruling is about prohibited any individual people, company or institutional trade forex in Malaysia without license from BNM, nothing to do whatsoever international capital guideline.
In other word, trading forex in Malaysia without BNM license is illegal, as simple as that.



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how are you go8ng with etoro? one month got 5%?
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More than 5% depend sometimes less always can leave copytrade, I've deposite 2k pound so far earn not much but good thing is every single thing like raw material can trade, you just follow the copytrade.
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This topic is generously to avoid early bird to be conned by IB and help to reduce forex victim. Since you knew the answer well but still keep asking faked questions without provide anything helpful, it is easy to make people think you are one of the IB as the topic is threatening your personal hidden benefit.
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Jack since you ask, actually I just register in lowyat few day, why?? cause when Dr Fx seem claim to be Dr ppl getting believe what he said and that a bad thing, my judge mostly what he said is correct some are false wonder why? if refer your topic reduce forex victim. Example XM yes company have 3 regulation but is a partner only you won't find XM register hohoho and XM who he earn trader money is by spread and market maker mean you win xm lose or you lose xm win hohoho so do you want such broker???
IB of course no am just a old folk trader that it, hoping to get a reliable source for me before believe some one always do a basic testing skill, scam fxcoliseum ??? Fxcoliseum is a ECN connected to who? most of them in the list genuine.
So Mr. Jack faked question? and Merry Christmas to you.
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Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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We are concerned about the retail FX market scams instead of liquidity provider. RHBInvest is a great platform for stocks trading. thumbup.gif

Thanks for your input, eToro is a regulated broker and we have added to genuine brokers list.
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Good Morning DrFX, liquidity provider was recommend to jack right or someone else? seems it follow up to you. I wonder why you not listing up good LP which you can open account for forex too as genuine which is more 101% not a scam forex. Anyway let end this topic.

Have a good day and Merry Christmas.
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Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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Lol Jack you are the one who bring it out now you pretend to be good guy?
Just end the story all be good. Sorry to said DrFX cause your list genuine an scam is not 100% correct. MY BAD
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The ruling is about prohibited any individual people, company or institutional trade forex in Malaysia without license from BNM, nothing to do whatsoever international capital guideline.
In other word, trading forex in Malaysia without BNM license is illegal, as simple as that.
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Thanks for your reminder. The reason why BNM has such alert or warning is try to protect Malaysian from illegal Forex trading or scam FX, sadly they do not state the actual guideline of capital market. Trading Forex with well licensed FX brokers/banks is like buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers. If a Malaysian purchase Facebook shares or Apple shares through US licensed stock broker, is that considered illegal?

FYI, in 2017, Malaysia will start a new regulatory body called FMAM to regulate FX business activities. It's will take times to reach the standard of UK FCA or Swiss FINMA.

We trust the integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS, etc. They have the world standard of FX compliance rules & regulation and given the right protection to international investors.

When we talk about BNM integrity, you remind us of 1MDB case where the entire world pledged guilty on 1MDB fraud case but BNM closed the case easily.

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Jack since you ask, actually I  just register in lowyat few day, why?? cause when Dr Fx seem claim to be Dr ppl getting believe what he said and that a bad thing, my judge mostly what he said is correct some are false wonder why? if refer your topic reduce forex victim. Example XM yes company have 3 regulation but is a partner only you won't find XM register hohoho and XM who he earn trader money is by spread and market maker mean you win xm lose or you lose xm win hohoho so do you want such broker???
IB of course no am just a old folk trader that it, hoping to get a reliable source for me before believe some one always do a basic testing skill, scam fxcoliseum ??? Fxcoliseum is a ECN connected to who? most of them in the list genuine.
So Mr. Jack faked question?   and Merry Christmas to you.
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Hi hideto79,

Not many get the right picture of the FX market. We believe you need a better understanding on FX world.

Do you know 99% of liquidity providers are market makers? Sounds crazy? No, this is the fact and that's how they make money. Do you think LPs/banks/brokers can survive as a STP (non market maker) where they have to maintain their license and business expenses over million dollar a year. As long as LPs/brokers hold a market maker license from top tier regulators, they have the right to choose any trades that they want to take in and trades that they preferred to process with bigger banks. There is nothing wrong with this business model, brokers need to make sure they do not do hanky panky things to cause traders lose money. If they did, file a complaint or dispute to the respective regulators for further investigation. Banks/brokers will get fine or license being terminated once they pledged guilty.

If XM hold a market maker license, then they have the right to be a market maker. If you have bad experiences with XM, feel free to share with us. Further to your comment, which LPs/brokers do not earn spreads? Honestly, we are not protecting XM as we get nothing, we are here to shares our experiences and knowledge about FX market. As usual, we will remove a broker from the genuine list even it is regulated but found that they have plenty of bad records.

Please do not trust unknown brokers when they tell you they are ECN or STP brokers. 99% are not true, it's sound nice in terms of marketing if you understand what i mean. If you trust fxcoluseum, try request for their liquidity providers trading statement where it can show that all their trades are actually forward to LPs. If they have nothing to hide, there is no issue for them to share monthly statements. However, these unregulated brokers usually will give you all kind of funny excuses not to show you.

Merry Christmas!

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Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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Expected. Thanks for the support, Jack.

Merry Christmas!
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Lol Jack you are the one who bring it out now you pretend to be good guy?
Just end the story all be good. Sorry to said DrFX cause your list genuine an scam is not 100% correct. MY BAD
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May be you are right. Probably not 100%, but at least 99%.
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Good Morning DrFX, liquidity provider was recommend to jack right or someone else? seems it follow up to you. I wonder why you not listing up good LP which you can open account for forex too as genuine which is more 101% not a scam forex. Anyway let end this topic.

Have a good day and Merry Christmas.
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Hello hideto79,

Which liquidity providers are you talking about? If you are talking about big LPs like JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank or RBS, these banks usually required high opening deposit like USD500k and above for individual trader.

Our topic is about retail FX brokers, not liquidity provider. You actually find some good but medium scale liquidity providers on our list like Saxo Bank, Swissquote Bank, LMAX, etc.

Good night...
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 24 2016, 04:40 AM)
Hello hideto79,

Which liquidity providers are you talking about? If you are talking about big LPs like JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank or RBS, these banks usually required high opening deposit like USD500k and above for individual trader.

Our topic is about retail FX brokers, not liquidity provider. You actually find some good but medium scale liquidity providers on our list like Saxo Bank, Swissquote Bank, LMAX, etc.

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Nothing much to comment, let end it like I said no point to argue right? anyway you did very good job for certain point of my view keep it going.
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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 15 2015, 06:53 PM)
I Googled & read through many user reviews about the following Forex brokers;

FxPro: Scam (Partial)

Brief explanation: Long term users complained that after using their trading platforms for (after) a 3-6 months period; the spread becomes manipulated by the broker (to become increasingly higher & higher) to make it harder for that long-term user to win trades anymore... Claimed to be not having True-ECN spreads as claimed by the broker (but manipulated spreads)...
IC Markets: Scam (potentially)

Brief explanation: Same problem as the above (FxPro), plus another issue; that some users experienced difficulty in withdrawing their profits or even getting paid back their capitals at all... Additionally, there were also user frustrations about suspicious bugs/technical glitches they experienced in the platforms that caused them to lose profits & even their capital (& they had problems in getting back any refunds)... Claimed to be not having True-ECN spreads as claimed by the broker (but manipulated spreads)...
Pepperstone: Scam (highly likely)

Brief explanation: Suspicious company that claims to be big with established superior technology, but it could in fact be just a lie; some users claimed that this company had used random photos of large governmental buildings & had superimposed their company's logo onto the facade of the building to claim it as their very-big/established company; it is also suspected that this company doesn't actually have any of those superior technologies that they are claiming to have... Last but not least, users were facing issues in withdrawals, plus experiencing the same problems as the above (FxPro & IC Markets) as well... Claimed by users to not have True-ECN spreads (but manipulated spreads)...
DUKASCOPY: Genuine & real but with some bad points

Brief explanation: Users are generally happy & satisfied, but with some complains about the trading platform being slow & kinda primitive (aka. low-tech)... In addition, users also did comment about the somewhat bureaucratic nature of opening an account (eg. some users' application were rejected, & some were facing extends of delays of the approval process; with requirements to produce more documents)... The broker is said to accept bank-wire transfers only (which may incur some cost % for each transaction amount)... A minimum of USD$5000 is required for opening a small (the smallest) Forex account with this broker...
Source: Based on Google-Search for user reviews of the brokers listed.

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I loled at your list

User reviews sometimes are biased and untrue, and it is no surprise if these so called reviewers comprised of IB's from other brokers

I often googled broker review at forex peace army, and there are some users who refuse to disclose their mt4 account ID (either by private message or publicly) even after being asked for many times - that means they are not real client

Brokers that you mentioned are highly regulated and audited by their own respective authorities and actively manage millions of trading contracts per month

Should any dispute arise, they will be heavily penalized by their regulatory bodies


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I loled at your list

User reviews sometimes are biased and untrue, and it is no surprise if these so called reviewers comprised of IB's from other brokers

I often googled broker review at forex peace army, and there are some users who refuse to disclose their mt4 account ID (either by private message or publicly) even after being asked for many times - that means they are not real client

Brokers that you mentioned are highly regulated and audited by their own respective authorities and actively manage millions of trading contracts per month

Should any dispute arise, they will be heavily penalized by their regulatory bodies
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Thanks for your reminder. The reason why BNM has such alert or warning is try to protect Malaysian from illegal Forex trading or scam FX, sadly they do not state the actual guideline of capital market. Trading Forex with well licensed FX brokers/banks is like buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers. If a Malaysian purchase Facebook shares or Apple shares through US licensed stock broker, is that considered illegal?

FYI, in 2017, Malaysia will start a new regulatory body called FMAM to regulate FX business activities. It's will take times to reach the standard of UK FCA or Swiss FINMA.

We trust the integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS, etc. They have the world standard of FX compliance rules & regulation and given the right protection to international investors.

When we talk about BNM integrity, you remind us of 1MDB case where the entire world pledged guilty on 1MDB fraud case but BNM closed the case easily.
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Huh? "Guideline to capital market"? What has FX got to do with the capital markets? Comparing FX trading to "buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers" is very very wrong my friend....

Retail FX is largely unregulated and open to abuse/manipulation, DrFX. It is a given. Name dropping self regulatory bodies and domestic regulatory bodies is pointless. The "integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS" will not protect you in any way.

If you are trading from Malaysia, you are subject to the FSA.
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Huh? "Guideline to capital market"? What has FX got to do with the capital markets? Comparing FX trading to "buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers" is very very wrong my friend....

Retail FX is largely unregulated and open to abuse/manipulation, DrFX. It is a given. Name dropping self regulatory bodies and domestic regulatory bodies is pointless. The "integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS" will not protect you in any way.

If you are trading from Malaysia, you are subject to the FSA.
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Thanks for your feedback, exia5733. We can see you have little idea what you are talking about. Thanks for keeping this thread active.

First of all, FX is part of capital markets if you have no idea and it's the biggest compare to equities, bonds, etc. So what is so wrong about trading FX? Both buying foreign shares and FX trading are with top tier regulated brokers/banks. Just because it is FX, so it is wrong? Or just because BNM said illegal, then you guys blindly follow and think it is illegal? Come on, wake up, my friend. This is 21st century, FX is a globalisation trading. Another example is the government said gambling is illegal except Genting, so why still so many international players walk into Sands casino in Singapore or other casinos in Macau or even Las Vegas?

Retail FX is largely unregulated? Clearly you do not know about the top tier FX regulations.
Open to abuse/manipulation? Unregulated brokers yes, top tier regulated brokers will get themselves into trouble if they do that. If you talk about FX market manipulation, i would surprise if there is no manipulation in local stocks market. brows.gif The losers will always find themselves some excuses.

You will have to find out more about the protection given to foreign traders/investors by international top tier FX regulation. If you talk about Australia ASIC, you are right. It does not protect foreigners. This is why it is considered tier 2 license. Tier 1 licenses giving protection to all foreign traders/investors.

Lastly, if you are trading FX from Malaysia locally (something like illegal money changer), yes you are subject to the FSA. But if you are trading FX ONLINE with licensed onshore banks/brokers, then you are not subject to the FSA.

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hello all, good morning

what about instaforex and midasama?

much appreciate, thanks alot
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hello all, good morning

what about instaforex and midasama?

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Hello kehgez,

instaforex is a big FX broker based in Russia. We do not recommend Russia based FX brokers due to lack of investors protection and transparency.

midasama seems like a money manager trading with Indonesia based FX broker. For the same reason, i will not trade/invest with them if i were you.

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Why IGOFX is a scam broker ? Please explain.

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Why IGOFX is a scam broker ? Please explain.
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Please find our previous post concerning IGOFX.

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IGOFX is using the same method to scam innocent investors by showing too good to be true trading results which usually are not real. We have done several due diligence and based our professionalism and experiences, we have concluded that IGOFX is another scam Forex broker.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?
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TriumphFX investors have reported unable to withdraw their money. With no surprise, they have scammed many investors and recent month obtained a rubbish license from Vanuatu to scam another round. You don't want to be the next victims. TriumphFX did not provide real time trading results and most of their trades are manipulated to impress innocent investors.

IGOFX is using the same method to scam innocent investors by showing too good to be true trading results which usually are not real. We have done several due diligence and based our professionalism and experiences, we have concluded that IGOFX is another scam Forex broker.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?

Beside TriumphFX, there are few others scam brokers using the same method have successfully scammed many innocent investors including GSM, NewTradeFX, FX United, etc.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC.  icon_question.gif
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In the case of Igofx... i think you are just judging a book by its cover. Unless someone unable to make a withdrawal... until now... everything went smooth.

Btw, I have traded manually for 5 mths in Igofx... at first i was sceptical too.

Yes... the name Vanuatu is pretty unknown... but if the broker still pays... why call it a scam? Anyone here being scammed by Igofx?... i would like to know.

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Hi cste188,

Please find our previous post concerning IGOFX.
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Hi Dr.FX,

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.
<cste188> attached is the trade results of one of the fund manager - Vladislv. His past 3 years trade results have been verified by the myfxbook - http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235. It that the trade results also fabricated too ? Please understand. I not here to challenge u or watsoever, i just want to know the truth.


2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.
<cste188>Are u sure you can get the license just 10K usd ?Since you are data driven, where you get USD10k figure from ? have you check with vanuatu fsc about it ? can you show us the proof or evidence of corresponding with vanuatu fsc ? unless you do so, i will assume u just plug the figure from air. again i not try to challenge u but i just want to find out the truth. but since u are professional, i believe u not simply provide a baseless figure out of nowhere. right ?


3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.
<cste188> thanks for head up. i do checked and i find out it verified by myfxbook. And i myself also acc holder of igofx myself. Attached is screenshot of my igofx acc. it showed the trade details of each of the trade. will it fabricated also ? if so, how ?


4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.
<cste188> this i also not sure why their fund manager don't engaged with top brokers house like fxcm or xm. but i will find out and let you know if their respond are the same as urs. lol.


5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?
<cste188> can you please be kind enough point us to the right direction ? i believe u r dr.fx and i think you have the answer. I looking for the answer from you.

P/S: don't get me wrong, i just want to find out the truth and i have many friends join and trade with igofx earning 5 figure passive income at this moment. I not try to promote nor support igofx in anyway, i just only a student who try to find out the truth, hope that you point us to the right direction with EVIDENCE BACKED ALLEGATION WHICH I BELIEVE YOU WILL DO SO IF YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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In the case of Igofx... i think you are just judging a book by its cover. Unless someone unable to make a withdrawal... until now... everything went smooth.

Btw, I have traded manually for 5 mths in Igofx... at first i was sceptical too.

Yes... the name Vanuatu is pretty unknown... but if the broker still pays... why call it a scam? Anyone here being scammed by Igofx?... i would like to know.
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notworthy.gif Seems like IGOFX scammers have collected many funds from innocent newbies.

What you are saying is as long as it pay, so it's doesn't consider as SCAM? So when it stop paying, then only considered as SCAM?

We guess you are pretty young and new in this line. Perhaps you should try once, then you will understand the world of SCAM.

We judge based on our experiences, knowledges and live test to get the confirmation. We do not earn anything for doing this. If you doubt our judgement, please come back to this thread to post your testimonial after IGOFX stop paying.

Referring to our SCAM broker list, many have stopped paying. Eg. GSM, FX United, NewTradeFX, old TriumphFX, GVF, IBS, Maxim, Efzinitus, etc. It's just the matter of time IGOFX will stop paying. Be patient...

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Hi Dr.FX,

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of.
<cste188> attached is the trade results of one of the fund manager - Vladislv.  His past 3 years trade results have been verified by the myfxbook - http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235.  It that the trade results also fabricated too ? Please understand. I not here to challenge u or watsoever, i just want to know the truth.
Myfxbook performance data synced from MT4 accounts. MT4 trades are editable from top to bottom, including open and close price, date, time, etc. You may verify with Metaquote - the software provider. All MT4 platform license holders are given a MT4 administrator. It's like your Windows setting. Without top tier financial license, these hanky panky brokers are FREE to do anything.

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders.
<cste188>Are u sure you can get the license just 10K usd ?Since you are data driven, where you get USD10k figure from ? have you check with vanuatu fsc about it ? can you show us the proof or evidence of corresponding with vanuatu fsc ? unless you do so, i will assume u just plug the figure from air. again i not try to challenge u but i just want to find out the truth. but since u are professional, i believe u not simply provide a baseless figure out of nowhere. right ?
Search around and ask for Vanuatu FX license quotation from those license providers and you will get the answer. You are not challenging us, it's normal when investors step into a SCAM but refused to accept it is a SCAM until it stop paying.


3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself.
<cste188> thanks for head up. i do checked and i find out it verified by myfxbook. And i myself also acc holder of igofx myself. Attached is screenshot of my igofx acc. it showed the trade details of each of the trade. will it fabricated also ? if so, how ?
Yes, it is fabricated. Refer our answer on 1.

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc.
<cste188> this i also not sure why their fund manager don't engaged with top brokers house like fxcm or xm. but i will find out and let you know if their respond are the same as urs. lol.
5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform?
<cste188> can you please be kind enough point us to the right direction ? i believe u r dr.fx and i think you have the answer. I looking for the answer from you.
We have provided all the answers but it doesnt pleased you. Lastly, try copy the trades live to a GENIUNE broker platform, you will understand what we are trying to tell you.

P/S: don't get me wrong, i just want to find out the truth and i have many friends join and trade with igofx earning 5 figure passive income at this moment. I not try to promote nor support igofx in anyway, i just only a student who try to find out the truth, hope that you point us to the right direction with EVIDENCE BACKED ALLEGATION WHICH I BELIEVE YOU WILL DO SO IF YOU ARE PROFESSIONAL.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
Don't blinded by the perfect returns, it doesnt exist in the real FX world. Happy New year! : )

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notworthy.gif Seems like IGOFX scammers have collected many funds from innocent newbies.

What you are saying is as long as it pay, so it's doesn't consider as SCAM? So when it stop paying, then only considered as SCAM?

We guess you are pretty young and new in this line. Perhaps you should try once, then you will understand the world of SCAM.

We judge based on our experiences, knowledges and live test to get the confirmation. We do not earn anything for doing this. If you doubt our judgement, please come back to this thread to post your testimonial after IGOFX stop paying.

Referring to our SCAM broker list, many have stopped paying. Eg. GSM, FX United, NewTradeFX, old TriumphFX, GVF, IBS, Maxim, Efzinitus, etc. It's just the matter of time IGOFX will stop paying. Be patient...
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Go to forex forum and ask me questions there. I am not young n new. I traded forex for 8th yrs. How bout u?can share your experience? Looks like any small broker is scam broker to u.
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In the case of Igofx... i think you are just judging a book by its cover. Unless someone unable to make a withdrawal... until now... everything went smooth.

Btw, I have traded manually for 5 mths in Igofx... at first i was sceptical too.

Yes... the name Vanuatu is pretty unknown... but if the broker still pays... why call it a scam? Anyone here being scammed by Igofx?... i would like to know.
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As you requested, please show ur trade results here.

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Go to forex forum and ask me questions there. I am not young n new. I traded forex for 8th yrs. How bout u?can share your experience? Looks like any small broker is scam broker to u.
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Hello cmk96,

Apologized! We are surprised by your trading experiences but your words show that you are new. Unless you are part of IGOFX. hmm.gif

Please define small broker. Maxim Trader scammed over hundred of millions US dollar, is that considered small? Being unregistered by New Zealand FSPR twice. IGOFX might the next Maxim.

We have the experiences in FX and Quant trading for over 10 years, we also experienced in setup some small brokers, obtaining financial licenses, structure hedge funds, providing FX bridge/aggregator for MT4 brokers and connecting to liquidity providers or prime brokerage.
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Hello cmk96,

Apologized! We are surprised by your trading experiences but your words show that you are new. Unless you are part of IGOFX.  hmm.gif

Please define small broker. Maxim Trader scammed over hundred of millions US dollar, is that considered small? Being unregistered by New Zealand FSPR twice. IGOFX might the next Maxim.

We have the experiences in FX and Quant trading for over 10 years, we also experienced in setup some small brokers, obtaining financial licenses, structure hedge funds, providing FX bridge/aggregator for MT4 brokers and connecting to liquidity providers or prime brokerage.
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I think you should make another list for "high risk broker" for broker such as Igofx. Coz no scammed victim so far eventhough it look like a scam broker.

I hv 4 other account with different brokers. Here, i only talk about Igofx. Ppl pm me asking why i trade manual on Igofx. Some asking me to show my result. All they know is Vladislav. They are just investors... not traders... they are also gamblers. Not me... i dun invest in him... coz i made more trading on my own..

You said you hv experience setting up small broker? Which broker you hv set up? Why not setting up your own broker?

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As you requested, please show ur trade results here.

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Yesterday you pm me wanting to about my manual trading. But you insist on knowing my profits.

I do not normally entertain newbie request like you... somemore a rude one... you are nobody to me... why should i show you my profit?

But to fullfill you curiosity... i might just grant your wish... yeah... later you may say the result its not mine... pls upload to myfxbook...bla bla bla... whistling.gif

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quote my post and debate point by point la, prove me wrong rather than just making one blank statement.
if i wanna argue, show that im an experienced trader. hmm what the hell is that suppose to mean? i no understand. you are as confused as that cmk guy.
seems like you are a real loser in forex... no profit to show?

wow just wow, another delusional idiot, its not no answer so far but so far no one has been scammed, this is kindergarten comprehension level you also cant get it?

this is the way scammer/ money games play the game, scam no one until the last minute, give false confidence so that gullible idiots can convince the fanily and friends to join, ie jjptr really give 20% yoo, tpeagles scam no one so far so its not a scam etc....
If that's your definition... "need to wait until last minute to scam".... then all brokers in the world also same... you can say "they haven't scam you ma"....you can list all brokers as scam brokers then.

in a scam / money game, you cannot scam even one person before you run away with big money, you know why? because that person would make noise and spoil the scammer big plan la.

so only idiots would say:. you see XXX has scammed no one so far so XXX is not a scammer lol.
trade manual we have handful of top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection, only greedy idiots fall for igofx.
yes you are correct, but all scammers have something in common, they cant offer any protection.

haha... why can not trade in Igofx manual? We can open as many account with other brokers... cmk96 said he already have 4 accounts.

you so naive... thinking traders only use one broker?

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anybody heard about IGOFX?
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thanks for the reply rachel.

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This broker very sensitive to certain forumers.... jangan main-main... thumbup.gif
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I think you should make another list for "high risk broker" for broker such as Igofx. Coz no scammed victim so far eventhough it look like a scam broker.

I hv 4 other account with different brokers. Here, i only talk about Igofx. Ppl pm me asking why i trade manual on Igofx. Some asking me to show my result. All they know is Vladislav. They are just investors... not traders... they are also gamblers. Not me... i dun invest in him... coz i made more trading on my own..

You said you hv experience setting up small broker? Which broker you hv set up? Why not setting up your own broker?
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Thanks for your suggestion. No point to have another high risk brokers list as IGOFX will end up as a scam broker. Just the matter time it will stop paying, same happened to all those listed on the scam brokers list. We are here to warn investors about the scam activities. There is no MAY BE in counter scams. Usually these scams will end with stop paying or loss all accounts through fake trades.

We are not interested to run as a FX broker. As for which broker we ddid set up for, clients info are strictly confidential. Thank you.
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Avoid it at all cost. The numbers of questions concerning IGOFX have worried us. The virus is spreading fast. doh.gif

It's going to be the next big scam. Players still getting paid for now. Once the scammer pull the plug, that's it.

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No hard feeling, but i think you're too young and naive to justify a scam. You will learn.
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Rachel,

No hard feeling, but i think you're too young and naive to justify a scam. You will learn.
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DrFx... why do you like to call forumers here young and new? i oso a forex trader... making 5 figures a mth... ringgit la.. laugh.gif
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Thanks for your suggestion. No point to have another high risk brokers list as IGOFX will end up as a scam broker. Just the matter time it will stop paying, same happened to all those listed on the scam brokers list. We are here to warn investors about the scam activities. There is no MAY BE in counter scams. Usually these scams will end with stop paying or loss all accounts through fake trades.

We are not interested to run as a FX broker. As for which broker we ddid set up for, clients info are strictly confidential. Thank you.
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Client info are highly confidential...ok.

How about your company info? is that confidential too?

PM me those info... maybe your contact is useful in the future.
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to xpmm,

your post is just showing how little you know about forex.

the words you use also disgraceful as this is not kopitiam.

if you want to argue, show that you are an experienced trader.

cmk96 asked DrFX who being scammed by Igofx... but no answer so far.

everything is just assumptions.

1: Unreal trading results - There is no real trading behind which those trades are suppose to process on a liquidity provider/banks. In short, they are showing investors impressive fake trading results. MT4 is a front end platform which the trades are editable from date to price. Without proper regulation, you know what they are capable of. (cmk96 said he trade manual, he not saying thos PAMM Vladislav result)

2: Holding a Vanuatu license - Recently this license has been a very popular tool for scammers due to low requirements. You can get it within USD10k and approval within a month. So basically anyone can get a Vanuatu license. And there is no protection for investors or traders. (no protection doesn't make it a scam right away)

3: Additional to 1, we have checked and confirmed their trades are not real time which similar to what TriumpFX has done. If you need evidence, then we suggest you to do it yourself. (Drfx still refers to those PAMM Vladislav result, not individual private traders like CMK96)

4: Get the traders/managers to trade with a top tier regulated brokers, any brokers will be fine. They will give you plenty of funny excuses like "We don't trade with other broker", "We don't want to let other brokers know our trading secret.", etc. (cmk96 is not fund manager)

5: Ask yourself, what make you think it is real? The license? The MT4 platform? (not relevant, cmk96 can withdraw)
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Let us get straight into point.

YOU ARE RIGHT, NO ONE BEING SCAMMED NOW, but DOESNT MEAN IT IS NOT A SCAM. NOT YET. COULD BE THIS YEAR OR NEXT. ONCE THE SCAMMER DECIDED TO PULL THE PLUG, THAT'S IT. We will not wait until they stop paying, then only announce it is a scam. By the time it stop paying, it is too late, many innocent investors have loss their money to the scammers.

You can think it is based on assumptions but we judged base on facts and data. Please leave your testimonial once IGOFX stop paying later this year. If you can't take it, we are completely fine. We have nothing to lose, remember! We are not being PAY by those genuine FX brokers for doing this.

3 years ago MAXIM paying well and agents selling as guaranteed returns, what happened last year?
2 years ago FX United giving high profits returns, what happened now?
We heard JJPTR stop paying recently. Can someone confirm? It's sooner than expected. Let see when is going to be IGOFX turn.




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DrFx... why do you like to call forumers here young and new? i oso a forex trader... making 5 figures a mth... ringgit la..  laugh.gif
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We don't call but many forumers can read your posts. That's the feel you presented yourself.
That's good, we hope it's not the money from introducing investors to IGOFX.
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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Jan 3 2017, 10:59 PM)
Client info are highly confidential...ok.

How about your company info? is that confidential too?

PM me those info... maybe your contact is useful in the future.
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We do not reveal our identity just like majority of the forumers. We expect many attacks and hates from scammers. We always stay neutral in counter scams and we are not here for business but to share our knowledge and experiences in order to benefit new investors/traders.

We are sorry if our posts does not benefit you.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jan 3 2017, 11:04 PM)
We don't call but many forumers can read your posts. That's the feel you presented yourself.
That's good, we hope it's not the money from introducing investors to IGOFX.
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Feeling is subjective... some forumers hv been around more than 5 years... some less than 5 mths... that's the fact i can see on your avatar.

You claimed you been around forex industry for 10 yrs... setting up brokers... sound great... but you never reveal your company or client info.

Seems like you are not a trader after all.


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Feeling is subjective... some forumers hv been around more than 5 years... some less than 5 mths... that's the fact i can see on your avatar.

You claimed you been around forex industry for 10 yrs... setting up brokers... sound great... but you never reveal your company or client info.

Seems like you are not a trader after all.
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Is that important?

We trade for living.
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Let us get straight into point.

YOU ARE RIGHT, NO ONE BEING SCAMMED NOW, but DOESNT MEAN IT IS NOT A SCAM. NOT YET. COULD BE THIS YEAR OR NEXT. ONCE THE SCAMMER DECIDED TO PULL THE PLUG, THAT'S IT. We will not wait until they stop paying, then only announce it is a scam. By the time it stop paying, it is too late, many innocent investors have loss their money to the scammers.

You can think it is based on assumptions but we judged base on facts and data. Please leave your testimonial once IGOFX stop paying later this year. If you can't take it, we are completely fine. We have nothing to lose, remember! We are not being PAY by those genuine FX brokers for doing this.

3 years ago MAXIM paying well and agents selling as guaranteed returns, what happened last year?
2 years ago FX United giving high profits returns, what happened now?
We heard JJPTR stop paying recently. Can someone confirm? It's sooner than expected. Let see when is going to be IGOFX turn.
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I trade on my own. You need to get the facts right.

There are many pool funds...money games... whatever you call it... that promised fixed return every mth.

I trade myself... no fixed return. rclxm9.gif

Your advice is targeted towards investors in those fixed return products... Not me.

you don't ask me about Maxim, Fx United...JJPTR... i'm hv nothing to do with them.
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I trade on my own. You need to get the facts right.

There are many pool funds...money games... whatever you call it... that promised fixed return every mth.

I trade myself... no fixed return.  rclxm9.gif

Your advice is targeted towards investors in those fixed return products... Not me.

you don't ask me about Maxim, Fx United...JJPTR... i'm hv nothing to do with them.
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I am not asking you cmk96. I am showing you the samples that agents insist their program/broker is not a scam but still end up a big scam. Just like IGOFX now. bruce.gif
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I am not asking you cmk96. I am showing you the samples that agents insist their program/broker is not a scam but still end up a big scam. Just like IGOFX now.  bruce.gif
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Since i trade on Igofx... you will be the first to know if any of my withdrawals fails in the future. Until then... bye bye. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jan 3 2017, 10:20 PM)
Avoid it at all cost. The numbers of questions concerning IGOFX have worried us. The virus is spreading fast. doh.gif

It's going to be the next big scam. Players still getting paid for now. Once the scammer pull the plug, that's it.
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I am fully agreed with DrFx. Please be very be careful on Igofx and should avoid it at all cost.

I have a friend introduce to me and I tried it out, fund the account and invest in small first to test out. It was in good profit and I tried to test on their fund withdrwal. Unfortunately I still not receive the money yet since Dec 15th fund withdrawal request using bank wire transfer., the amount is usd400. I have tried many ways to contact them but no response. Email no respond, phone call no answer, online chat always said forwarded my issue to respective department.

My friend who introduce to me said they have no issue if using local depositor rather than bank wire transfer. I wanted to use bank wire transfer mainly to reduce the in/out exchange rate that charge by using local depositor which is 4.30 out and 4.6 in because I plan to invest larger amount if everything looks good on Igofx.

DrFx, do you have any advice on what can I do to get back my money?

Thanks
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Since i trade on Igofx... you will be the first to know if any of my withdrawals fails in the future. Until then... bye bye.  cool2.gif
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We believe their major scam activity is on the too good to be true investment.

They will continue pay for manual traders, just like TriumphFX.
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I am fully agreed with DrFx. Please be very be careful on Igofx and should avoid it at all cost.

I have a friend introduce to me and I tried it out, fund the account and invest in small first to test out. It was in good profit and I tried to test on their fund withdrwal. Unfortunately I still not receive the money yet since Dec 15th fund withdrawal request using bank wire transfer., the amount is usd400. I have tried many ways to contact them but no response.  Email no respond, phone call no answer, online chat always said forwarded my issue to respective department.

My friend who introduce to me said they have no issue if using local depositor rather than bank wire transfer.  I wanted to use bank wire transfer mainly to reduce the in/out exchange rate that charge by using local depositor which is 4.30 out and 4.6 in because I plan to invest larger amount if everything looks good on Igofx.

DrFx, do you have any advice on what can I do to get back my money?

Thanks
Ctan6611
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We are sorry to hear that, ctan6611.

You may seek for your friend who introduced you to help you, we assume your friend has earned some commission from your account. If he/she can't, bring your friend together to the nearest Police Station to file a report. In real FX, there is no such thing called local depositor unless it is well regulated party.

Make things ugly and show the scammer what you are capable of. For the time being, they may force to pay you for the sake of shut you up.


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why are the IGOFX traders so sensitive? DrFX is doing a good deed and tryna warn u guys about this group might be a potential scam...just take note and be thankful even though there are no withrawal fails yet...

DrFx could sit back and do nothing..yet he choose to warn those who are in IGOFX..be thankful la..

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QUOTE(TaintedSoul @ Jan 4 2017, 01:32 AM)
why are the IGOFX traders so sensitive? DrFX is doing a good deed and tryna warn u guys about this group might be a potential scam...just take note and be thankful even though there are no withrawal fails yet...

DrFx could sit back and do nothing..yet he choose to warn those who are in IGOFX..be thankful la..

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The topic is threatening multiple IBs' commission income. For example, you can see that CMK96. He has multiple brokers connections, in which he is not only IB from igoforex, but also works as IB from other firm brokers. In this case, if newbie read this topic, the chance to "fish" newbie to join his 30 percent income scheme is greatly reduced in the world in internet today.

Think in the opposite way if we do bad comments about Oanda, anyone will attack us ? Those high reputations not even care what you talking. But such thing is totally different for a scam broker and IB such as CMK96.

Based on the photo he posted, the trading result was 2015 year which is 2 years long ago, and no igoforex logo in the printscreen. One more important point is (which is not hard to see from photo), his main income is not from trading (of course he did some small lots trade to do some illusions), but primary source income are come from commission earned from newbie investor since many credit would give to him "automatically" every time, every minute. Eventually this makes himself rich but make his investors poor. So, do you consider this is SCAM ?
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This broker very sensitive to certain forumers.... jangan main-main...  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 4 2017, 03:15 AM)
The topic is threatening multiple IBs' commission income. For example, you can see that CMK96. He has multiple brokers connections, in which he is not only IB from igoforex, but also works as IB from other firm brokers. In this case, if newbie read this topic, the chance to "fish" newbie to join his 30 percent income scheme is greatly reduced in the world in internet today.

Think in the opposite way if we do bad comments about Oanda, anyone will attack us ? Those high reputations not even care what you talking. But such thing is totally different for a scam broker and IB such as CMK96.

Based on the photo he posted, the trading result was 2015 year which is 2 years long ago, and no igoforex logo in the printscreen. One more important point is (which is not hard to see from photo), his main income is not from trading (of course he did some small lots trade to do some illusions), but primary source income are come from commission earned from newbie investor[B][/font][COLOR=red][B] since many credit would give to him "automatically" every time, every minute. Eventually this makes himself rich but make his investors poor. So, do you consider this is SCAM ?
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You again.... i remembered your post was deleted by MOD in the forex tread... coz u just a member since Nov 2016... u start flaming other forumers.

Where do you see i took commission from broker? I give you USD1000 if you can prove what you just said.

Since when i say i am an IB for Igofx? Can you explain where the 183k profit came from? True traders will know profit can only come from trading. Not commission or credits...all those BS.

you are creating so much negative karma for yourself.

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I got no issue so far with igofx. All withdrawal done within 24hrs. Not trying to promote igofx but just to share my experience with igofx since a lot of ppl here are asking bout it. I can't prove wherever it's legit or not but at least I got no issue with it for the past six months

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 4 2017, 03:15 AM)
The topic is threatening multiple IBs' commission income. For example, you can see that CMK96. He has multiple brokers connections, in which he is not only IB from igoforex, but also works as IB from other firm brokers. In this case, if newbie read this topic, the chance to "fish" newbie to join his 30 percent income scheme is greatly reduced in the world in internet today.

Think in the opposite way if we do bad comments about Oanda, anyone will attack us ? Those high reputations not even care what you talking. But such thing is totally different for a scam broker and IB such as CMK96.

Based on the photo he posted, the trading result was 2015 year which is 2 years long ago, and no igoforex logo in the printscreen. One more important point is (which is not hard to see from photo), his main income is not from trading (of course he did some small lots trade to do some illusions), but primary source income are come from commission earned from newbie investor since many credit would give to him "automatically" every time, every minute. Eventually this makes himself rich but make his investors poor. So, do you consider this is SCAM ?
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jan 3 2017, 11:02 PM)
Let us get straight into point.

YOU ARE RIGHT, NO ONE BEING SCAMMED NOW, but DOESNT MEAN IT IS NOT A SCAM. NOT YET. COULD BE THIS YEAR OR NEXT. ONCE THE SCAMMER DECIDED TO PULL THE PLUG, THAT'S IT. We will not wait until they stop paying, then only announce it is a scam. By the time it stop paying, it is too late, many innocent investors have loss their money to the scammers.

You can think it is based on assumptions but we judged base on facts and data. Please leave your testimonial once IGOFX stop paying later this year. If you can't take it, we are completely fine. We have nothing to lose, remember! We are not being PAY by those genuine FX brokers for doing this.

3 years ago MAXIM paying well and agents selling as guaranteed returns, what happened last year?
2 years ago FX United giving high profits returns, what happened now?
We heard JJPTR stop paying recently. Can someone confirm? It's sooner than expected. Let see when is going to be IGOFX turn.
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They're still paying on time every month. I can confirm on this one
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Just my two cents.. Even big brokers have the possibility of not paying..... Look at it from another POV, to obtain certain regulations you need to fulfill certain requirements and pay a sum of money.. This can be a way to boost the company's "image" to the masses.

My personal belief is not to keep too much money in one broker and also please make constant withdrawal from time to time. IGOFX is still paying regardless of PAMM service or manual trading.
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QUOTE(xdeathz @ Jan 4 2017, 12:39 PM)
I got no issue so far with igofx. All withdrawal done within 24hrs. Not trying to promote igofx but just to share my experience with igofx since a lot of ppl here are asking bout it. I can't prove wherever it's legit or not but at least I got no issue with it for the past six months
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May I know is your withdrawal thru local depositor or bank wire transfer?


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We are sorry to hear that, ctan6611.

You may seek for your friend who introduced you to help you, we assume your friend has earned some commission from your account. If he/she can't, bring your friend together to the nearest Police Station to file a report. In real FX, there is no such thing called local depositor unless it is well regulated party.

Make things ugly and show the scammer what you are capable of. For the time being, they may force to pay you for the sake of shut you up.
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Hi DrFx, may I know which platform is trusted and have copy trading similar to Igofx?

Thanks
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May I know is your withdrawal thru local depositor or bank wire transfer?
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You have very wild imagination.

Who teach you commission = profit? Commission goes to "Balance" la.
Credit if convert to cash...also will go to "Balance".

cmk96 have 183k "Profit"... how do you explain that? As Drfx like to say.... "you must be young and new"...LOL
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Profit 183k , not necessary must be real profit. There are thousand of ways to create illusion. I am not to say about photoshop or change trading record. It can be real trading.

Since I knew CMK96 in personal long time ago, I am going to say what CMK96 used to do only using the old trick, maybe present CMK96 now has evolved and use much advanced illusion. I have no idea on his new trick, but only has some idea on his old trick.

Normally what he did is : Just simply open two real accounts, put in some deposits in two accounts. Each time in two accounts, do two opposite trades. For example, one account do buy, then another account must do sell. At the end, one account profit is +183k while another is -183k. In combination of two accounts, he has no loss at all. The account cannot do pure SELL trades, because people will suspect. The account must be combined SELL and BUY trades, and some lose trades also, as long as the result is convincing. Since his deposit were came from his commission, but not his personal deposit, so the "illusion" profit also came from commission. At the end, he only shown the +183k accounts, but not the -183k account. he will show his bank account statement as well to trick people join him.

I am definitely "new and young" in the world of forex, this point you are right. That is why I am one of the early bird batch and wish to invoke all early bird do not get cheated by CMK96 or by SCAMMER. As the matter of fact, I read thru your posts, I have learn a lot.

Unfortunately, since you know a lot and has a lot experience, you don't your knowledge to help people, but use your experience to help devil to cheat people. Don't you fell yourself are "old and ugly" .
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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 5 2017, 05:34 AM)
Profit 183k , not necessary must be real profit. There are thousand of ways to create illusion. I am not to say about photoshop or change trading record. It can be real trading.

Since I knew CMK96 in personal long time ago, I am going to say what CMK96 used to do only using the old trick, maybe present CMK96 now has evolved and use much advanced illusion. I have no idea on his new trick, but only has some idea on his old trick.

Normally what he did is : Just simply open two [b]real accounts
, put in some deposits in two accounts. Each time in two accounts, do two opposite trades. For example, one account do buy, then another account must do sell. At the end, one account profit is +183k while another is -183k. In combination of two accounts, he has no loss at all. The account cannot do pure SELL trades, because people will suspect. The account must be combined SELL and BUY trades, and some lose trades also, as long as the result is convincing. Since his deposit were came from his commission, but not his personal deposit, so the "illusion" profit also came from commission. At the end, he only shown the +183k accounts, but not the -183k account. he will show his bank account statement as well to trick people join him.

I am definitely "new and young" in the world of forex, this point you are right. That is why I am one of the early bird batch and wish to invoke all early bird do not get cheated by CMK96 or by SCAMMER. As the matter of fact, I read thru your posts, I have learn a lot.

Unfortunately, since you know a lot and has a lot experience, you don't your knowledge to help people, but use your experience to help devil to cheat people. Don't you fell yourself are "old and ugly" .
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LOL... u know me long ago? since when?

U just registered in Nov 2016... i was here since Oct 2007. Don't bluff readers la.

Now you say i have 2 accounts... one -183k..the other +183k?.... wah... like that i need to deposit 183k in order to lose -183k lo?

Your story don't make any sense. Profit is profit...it must come from trading... can not be transferred. ...Once transfered.... the "Balance" will change...Not the "Profit".

If what you said can be done... u try do it... do the transfer...attached a screenshot with profits, balance and withdrawal... i give RM100.... i oso want to learn from you.

Btw, my offer for you USD1000 still valid if you can prove i am IB for any broker you can think of. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 5 2017, 05:34 AM)
Profit 183k , not necessary must be real profit. There are thousand of ways to create illusion. I am not to say about photoshop or change trading record. It can be real trading.

Since I knew CMK96 in personal long time ago, I am going to say what CMK96 used to do only using the old trick, maybe present CMK96 now has evolved and use much advanced illusion. I have no idea on his new trick, but only has some idea on his old trick.

Normally what he did is : Just simply open two real accounts, put in some deposits in two accounts. Each time in two accounts, do two opposite trades. For example, one account do buy, then another account must do sell. At the end, one account profit is +183k while another is -183k. In combination of two accounts, he has no loss at all. The account cannot do pure SELL trades, because people will suspect. The account must be combined SELL and BUY trades, and some lose trades also, as long as the result is convincing. Since his deposit were came from his commission, but not his personal deposit, so the "illusion" profit also came from commission. At the end, he only shown the +183k accounts, but not the -183k account. he will show his bank account statement as well to trick people join him.

I am definitely "new and young" in the world of forex, this point you are right. That is why I am one of the early bird batch and wish to invoke all early bird do not get cheated by CMK96 or by SCAMMER. As the matter of fact, I read thru your posts, I have learn a lot.

Unfortunately, since you know a lot and has a lot experience, you don't your knowledge to help people, but use your experience to help devil to cheat people. Don't you fell yourself are "old and ugly" .
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you sound so desperate to spin up a new story... doh.gif

cmk96 have been around for very long time in forex tread. you can check it yourself.

talking about creditability, cmk96 definately win hands down. you only been here for 3 mths.

i have seen cmk96 previous results and he NEVER do any marketing for any broker... i even follow his trades in the past and i made profit too.. he is a real trader.

maybe you are uncomfortable seeing someone else can profit so much... if he attached a screenshot with just 200-300 profits... it will be more believable than a 200,000-300,000 profit account.

like what cmk96 just said, if a "transfer" can boost up the profits of a particular account. You should do it and show us the screenshot.


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Profit 183k , not necessary must be real profit. There are thousand of ways to create illusion. I am not to say about photoshop or change trading record. It can be real trading.

Since I knew CMK96 in personal long time ago, I am going to say what CMK96 used to do only using the old trick, maybe present CMK96 now has evolved and use much advanced illusion. I have no idea on his new trick, but only has some idea on his old trick.

Normally what he did is : Just simply open two real accounts, put in some deposits in two accounts. Each time in two accounts, do two opposite trades. For example, one account do buy, then another account must do sell. At the end, one account profit is +183k while another is -183k. In combination of two accounts, he has no loss at all. The account cannot do pure SELL trades, because people will suspect. The account must be combined SELL and BUY trades, and some lose trades also, as long as the result is convincing. Since his deposit were came from his commission, but not his personal deposit, so the "illusion" profit also came from commission. At the end, he only shown the +183k accounts, but not the -183k account. he will show his bank account statement as well to trick people join him.

I am definitely "new and young" in the world of forex, this point you are right. That is why I am one of the early bird batch and wish to invoke all early bird do not get cheated by CMK96 or by SCAMMER. As the matter of fact, I read thru your posts, I have learn a lot.

Unfortunately, since you know a lot and has a lot experience, you don't your knowledge to help people, but use your experience to help devil to cheat people. Don't you fell yourself are "old and ugly" .
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Gonna side with cmk96 here. I PMed him before and he never once market any brokers to me.. Perhaps you carry a grudge against him.. To be fair, you shouldn't slander him in public without concrete proof...
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Hi DrFx, may I know which platform is trusted and have copy trading similar to Igofx?

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Hi Ctan6611,

You can try zulutrade, fxstat, myfxbook, etc that offering copy trades through various well regulated brokers.

IGOFX is not a copy trade platform, it's using PAMM/MAM system that usually apply on managed accounts.
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I got no issue so far with igofx. All withdrawal done within 24hrs. Not trying to promote igofx but just to share my experience with igofx since a lot of ppl here are asking bout it. I can't prove wherever it's legit or not but at least I got no issue with it for the past six months
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As mentioned, not yet, it's just the matter of time it stop paying. Scam or not is not justify by payments. Nice payment is to lure more innocent investors. This is common tactic of scams.
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Just my two cents.. Even big brokers have the possibility of not paying..... Look at it from another POV, to obtain certain regulations you need to fulfill certain requirements and pay a sum of money.. This can be a way to boost the company's "image" to the masses.

My personal belief is not to keep too much money in one broker and also please make constant withdrawal from time to time. IGOFX is still paying regardless of PAMM service or manual trading.
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Hi TradeForLife,

We would like to know which big brokers stop paying? It helps a lot.

We understand Alpari UK default in 2015 and traders managed to get back their funds through capital protection. Although it took some time for auditors to complete the book, it's still safer than SCAM brokers that without proper regulations and may run away investors money whenever they want.
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Hi Ctan6611,

You can try zulutrade, fxstat, myfxbook, etc that offering copy trades through various well regulated brokers.

IGOFX is not a copy trade platform, it's using PAMM/MAM system that usually apply on managed accounts.
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Thanks for the recommendation.

Do you know roughly what are the ROI on copy trade platform? How many % profit sharing with the trader?

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You again.... i remembered your post was deleted by MOD in the forex tread... coz u just a member since Nov 2016... u start flaming other forumers.

Where do you see i took commission from broker? I give you USD1000 if you can prove what you just said.

Since when i say i am an IB for Igofx? Can you explain where the 183k profit came from? True traders will know profit can only come from trading. Not commission or credits...all those BS.

you are creating so much negative karma for yourself.
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You are not IB of IGOFX, but perhaps the agent of IGOFX where you gain spread/commission rebate from the fake trades. Even though those profits are not real, IGOFX still pay agents attractive rebates, so they will continue market and bring in more innocent investors for the scammer.

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Hi TradeForLife,

We would like to know which big brokers stop paying? It helps a lot.

We understand Alpari UK default in 2015 and traders managed to get back their funds through capital protection. Although it took some time for auditors to complete the book, it's still safer than SCAM brokers that without proper regulations and may run away investors money whenever they want.
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Hmm... If I'm not wrong. The traders failed to get back 100% of their capital and only got back a portion after a huge delay..
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Hmm... If I'm not wrong. The traders failed to get back 100% of their capital and only got back a portion after a huge delay..
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It's standard procedure when a broker/bank default. It take times for auditors to check the book. Smaller traders got back 100%, only bigger accounts got back around 80% of their balance. Remember capital protection for UK FCA is cap at 75k pound.

Is that better than a scam broker disappeared over the night?

By the way, you did not answer our question which big broker did not pay. Please advise. Thank you.

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why are the IGOFX traders so sensitive? DrFX is doing a good deed and tryna warn u guys about this group might be a potential scam...just take note and be thankful even though there are no withrawal fails yet...

DrFx could sit back and do nothing..yet he choose to warn those who are in IGOFX..be thankful la..

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Thank you, TaintedSoul.

We can understand the enthusiasm of IGOFX marketers when they received lucrative commission which virtually money from their investors since no real trades behind.
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Hi, is hot forex safe?
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Hotforex is a St. Vincent and the Grenadines offshore unregulated FX broker.

You have much better options available. Thank you.

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You are not IB of IGOFX, but perhaps the agent of IGOFX where you gain spread/commission rebate from the fake trades. Even though those profits are not real, IGOFX still pay agents attractive rebates, so they will continue market and bring in more innocent investors for the scammer.
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Perhaps?

Perhaps you are agents from other broker who like to see your opponent business go down.

You guess me. I can guess u too.
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Perhaps?

Perhaps you are agents from other broker who like to see your opponent business go down.

You guess me. I can guess u too.
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you sound so desperate to spin up a new story...  doh.gif

cmk96 have been around for very long time in forex tread. you can check it yourself.

talking about creditability, cmk96 definately win hands down. you only been here for 3 mths.

i have seen cmk96 previous results and he NEVER do any marketing for any broker... i even follow his trades in the past and i made profit too.. he is a real trader.

maybe you are uncomfortable seeing someone else can profit so much... if he attached a screenshot with just 200-300 profits... it will be more believable than a 200,000-300,000 profit account.

like what cmk96 just said, if a "transfer" can boost up the profits of a particular account. You should do it and show us the screenshot.
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QUOTE(empire177 @ Jan 5 2017, 02:03 PM)
Gonna side with cmk96 here. I PMed him before and he never once market any brokers to me.. Perhaps you carry a grudge against him.. To be fair, you shouldn't slander him in public without concrete proof...
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Thank you for your support. Next time i only post small profit if requested. So many self-claimed sifu unhappy here.
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Hotforex is a St. Vincent and the Grenadines offshore unregulated FX broker.

You have much better options available. Thank you.
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so isnt safe or what?
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so isnt safe or what?
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Thanks... don't play guessing games... it's childish.
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It's not a guess for us. The way you answers and posts, it defined that you are part of IGOFX.
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It's not a guess for us. The way you answers and posts, it defined that you are part of IGOFX.
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Its the way you hide your company's name and client which suggest you are not who you claimed to be.

"We have the experiences in FX and Quant trading for over 10 years, we also experienced in setup some small brokers, obtaining financial licenses, structure hedge funds, providing FX bridge/aggregator for MT4 brokers and connecting to liquidity providers or prime brokerage."

We are not interested to run as a FX broker. As for which broker we ddid set up for, clients info are strictly confidential. Thank you.

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It's not a guess for us. The way you answers and posts, it defined that you are part of IGOFX.
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Seems like you are not neutral after all. You just use your guts feeling to judge a person. Without any proves given. wink.gif


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LOL... u know me long ago? since when?

U just registered in Nov 2016... i was here since Oct 2007. Don't bluff readers la.

Now you say i have 2 accounts... one -183k..the other +183k?.... wah... like that i need to deposit 183k in order to lose -183k lo?

Your story don't make any sense. Profit is profit...it must come from trading... can not be transferred. ...Once transfered.... the "Balance" will change...Not the "Profit".

If what you said can be done... u try do it... do the transfer...attached a screenshot with profits, balance and withdrawal... i give RM100.... i oso want to learn from you.

Btw, my offer for you USD1000 still valid if you can prove i am IB for any broker you can think of.  thumbup.gif
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Don't pretend you don't know that trick.

I have revealed and uncovered one of the tricks that you have used to cheat many investors. Now, I bet you/your group (possible multiple log-in accounts) have next movement. The movement are posting as many posts as possible, to flood the topic with unnecessary posts, so that you hope early bird cannot exactly read and get the important post. And forgot the your illusion trick.

Now, you using "flooding the post" or "change focus" strategy. Another illusion skill just do not want people read the post about how to you trick people.

I would say you are a great and smart IB/Agent with a lot of wonderful illusion skills and know how early bird investor think. Unfortunately, you used the skills to trick people.


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Don't pretend you don't know that trick.

I have revealed and uncovered one of the tricks that you have used to cheat many investors. Now, I bet you/your group (possible multiple log-in accounts) have next movement. The movement are posting as many posts as possible, to flood the topic with unnecessary posts, so that you hope early bird cannot exactly read and get the important post. And forgot the your illusion trick.

Now, you using "flooding the post" or "change focus"  strategy. Another illusion skill just do not want people read the post about how to you trick people.

I would say you are a great and smart IB/Agent with a lot of wonderful illusion skills and know how early bird investor think. Unfortunately, you used the skills to trick people.
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Its already clear now that you are merely spinning up stories and jealous of my result. All your so call "tricks" of transfering profits... convert credit/commission into profits...are not workable. Don't try to cheat readers. True traders can see your fake stories right away.

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Don't pretend you don't know that trick.

I have revealed and uncovered one of the tricks that you have used to cheat many investors. Now, I bet you/your group (possible multiple log-in accounts) have next movement. The movement are posting as many posts as possible, to flood the topic with unnecessary posts, so that you hope early bird cannot exactly read and get the important post. And forgot the your illusion trick.

Now, you using "flooding the post" or "change focus"  strategy. Another illusion skill just do not want people read the post about how to you trick people.

I would say you are a great and smart IB/Agent with a lot of wonderful illusion skills and know how early bird investor think. Unfortunately, you used the skills to trick people.
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Jack_1 why you always like to bug someone are you as good like drfx or cmk96 or you a friend of drfx? cmk96 have done lot job take you time and look what he post.
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Thank you for your questions.

1. Our proprietary tool able to keep track all the trades LIVE and proven not all trades are opened at real time pricing.
2. Not real time mean when a new SELL position opened, the market price for EURUSD is 1.0452 but the trade manipulated to open at 1.0472 which immediately the trade gained 20 pips profits. But this trade does not forward to any liquidity provider, it's only show on the MT4 platform for the purpose of impress investors with fake results. Meaning to say that there is no real money generated from the trades.
3. MT4 is real, but the broker who manipulated the trades which make the trades not real. When any broker hold a MT4 platform license, they are capable of editing the trades from top to bottom including the open price, date, time, closed price, etc. You can verify this info with Metaquote, the software provider.

Above cases only happened in unregulated or offshore brokers where there are no strict requirements, rules and regulations. This method getting popular nowadays for scammers to cheat innocent investors. It's like an illusion, NOW YOU SEE ME.  notworthy.gif
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1. Our proprietary tool able to keep track all the trades LIVE and proven not all trades are opened at real time pricing.

what sort of tool you using? would like to have one to track on my own too.

Thanks
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Its the way you hide your company's name and client which suggest you are not who you claimed to be.

"We have the experiences in FX and Quant trading for over 10 years, we also experienced in setup some small brokers, obtaining financial licenses, structure hedge funds, providing FX bridge/aggregator for MT4 brokers and connecting to liquidity providers or prime brokerage."

We are not interested to run as a FX broker. As for which broker we ddid set up for, clients info are strictly confidential. Thank you.
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It doesn't make a different even if you know who we are. We are not interested to know you too.

We will continue post the lists as usual.
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Seems like you are not neutral after all. You just use your guts feeling to judge a person. Without any proves given.  wink.gif
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You have the right not the trust our judgement, but do come back post your testimonial after IGOFX stop paying.

You will understand the neutral after all.
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1. Our proprietary tool able to keep track all the trades LIVE and proven not all trades are opened at real time pricing.

what sort of tool you using? would like to have one to track on my own too.

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A proprietary tool mean it's a system for in house use.

Alternatively, you can ask the scammer to trade with top regulated brokers. Normally they won't and will give you all sort of funny excuses.

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Dear DrFX,
i am a recent user of IGOfx but i am always skeptical about these things, and i only decide to give it a try after i saw the verified record in MyFxBook, IGOfx main power is a trader name Vladislav77 with a 3 years unbeatable record recorded in myfxbook.com with Verified Track Record and Trading Privileges
(2 green ticks)
so you mean that all these thing can be faked??? then how can anyone trust myfxbook? i am here just trying to get more answer, not to challenge you, would you mind to research on the profile of Vladislav77 and give me an analysis and reason of how Vladislav77 profile in Myfxbook can be Faked and no action is taken, treat this as an effort to help everyone involved in IGOfx, a lot of Malaysian are into this now as everyone trust the profile of Vladislav77 i am a fact guy, would you be so kind please? thanks
here is a link to the profile
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235 icon_rolleyes.gif
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DrFx something to add on, today, IGOfx just received 2 award from Global Banking and Financial Review for
Fastest Growing IB Program South East Asia 2016 and
Best New Investment Platform Asia 2016

Again this has raise a lot of confident for many people, can a scam company get reward???
Please DrFx, if you have evidence to convince and show all people this is a scam, do it now, or more and more people will definately go for this
link are attached for your referece :https://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/global-banking-finance-review-awards-2016/ confused.gif
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Dear DrFX,
i am a recent user of IGOfx but i am always skeptical about these things, and i only decide to give it a try after i saw the verified record in MyFxBook,  IGOfx main power is a trader name Vladislav77 with a 3 years unbeatable record recorded in myfxbook.com with Verified Track Record and Trading Privileges
(2 green ticks)
so you mean that all these thing can be faked??? then how can anyone trust myfxbook? i am here just trying to get more answer, not to challenge you, would you mind to research on the profile of Vladislav77 and give me an analysis and reason of how Vladislav77 profile in Myfxbook can be Faked and no action is taken, treat this as an effort to help everyone involved in IGOfx, a lot of Malaysian are into this now as everyone trust the profile of Vladislav77 i am a fact guy, would you be so kind please? thanks
here is a link to the profile
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235 icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hello Georgechoo1990,

Myfxbook retrieved trades data from the MT4 account and it cannot determine the trades are based on real market price or not. The "verified" tell you that YES, the trading performance is synced from a MT4 account. It does not mean anything. If the broker manipulated the trades on the MT4 account, Myfxbook system does not able to identify it.

Myfxbook is a free 3rd party performance analysis web site. It provide you the overall analysis based on your MT4 account. Why should action being taken on myfxbook? It's the investors who need to know how to differentiate a real broker and a fake broker. Not myfxbook.

Trust only those Myfxbook performance from accounts trading with well regulated brokers.

Since this SCAM issue is getting serious, we are offering FREE for IGOFX investor who willing to share your MT4 account view only password. We shall run a mirror system to duplicate your account trades LIVE to a demo account under top tier broker of your choice. The demo account able to show you the different between the trades on your IGOFX Vladislav77 account and a real market. Any volunteer?

We need 1 volunteer from the investor and also volunteer who can validate the differences. Let's do it for 3-6 months. OK? bruce.gif

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DrFx something to add on, today, IGOfx just received 2 award from Global Banking and Financial Review for
Fastest Growing IB Program South East Asia 2016 and
Best New Investment Platform Asia 2016

Again this has raise a lot of confident for many people, can a scam company get reward???
Please DrFx, if you have evidence to convince and show all people this is a scam, do it now, or more and more people will definately go for this
link are attached for your referece :https://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/global-banking-finance-review-awards-2016/ confused.gif
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You will be surprised that most of the brokers out there earn a few awards, either by real competition or by a package selling by the web site. You have to question the credibility of the web site before you believe the awards are real.

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We will continue post the lists as usual.
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Empty talk again.
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Hi DrFx, i am also a recent investor of IGOfx, i always think these things is too good to be true, but i go for it after i saw the verified profile of Vladislav, i would like to volunteer to help you investigate into this matter, i am also seeking the answer, please let me know how can we do this, PM me, thank you icon_question.gif
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I am fully agreed with DrFx. Please be very be careful on Igofx and should avoid it at all cost.

I have a friend introduce to me and I tried it out, fund the account and invest in small first to test out. It was in good profit and I tried to test on their fund withdrwal. Unfortunately I still not receive the money yet since Dec 15th fund withdrawal request using bank wire transfer., the amount is usd400. I have tried many ways to contact them but no response.  Email no respond, phone call no answer, online chat always said forwarded my issue to respective department.

My friend who introduce to me said they have no issue if using local depositor rather than bank wire transfer.  I wanted to use bank wire transfer mainly to reduce the in/out exchange rate that charge by using local depositor which is 4.30 out and 4.6 in because I plan to invest larger amount if everything looks good on Igofx.

DrFx, do you have any advice on what can I do to get back my money?

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How did you initially fund your account? Was it through bank wire transfer or local depositor?

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Hi Dr FX,

On Jan 6, 30% (as IGOFX announced on the cabinet account page) of investors investing through Vladislav suffered opening failure with their MT4 platform. The company did however reimburse all affected investors with their respective amounts that would otherwise be earned through the 5% gain on that day. Could this be part of the intended or purported strategies to gain investors' confidence using fake trading report again and funding through new funds received? It's fishy since almost everyone (instead of just 30%) from our Wechat group had the same issue but was happily reimbursed though.

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Hi Dr FX,

On Jan 6, 30% (as IGOFX announced on the cabinet account page) of investors investing through Vladislav suffered opening failure with their MT4 platform. The company did however reimburse all affected investors with their respective amounts that would otherwise be earned through the 5% gain on that day. Could this be part of the intended or purported strategies to gain investors' confidence using fake trading report again and funding through new funds received? It's fishy since almost everyone (instead of just 30%) from our Wechat group had the same issue but was happily reimbursed though.

Japin
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Hello Japin,

Usually these special cases only happened on SCAM brokers where there are no real trades being sent to liquidity provider. They are generous to reimburse the profits on affected accounts to gain your confidents. There are no actual profits but money from new investors. The ball will keep rolling until they decided to stop.
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Hi DrFx, i am also a recent investor of IGOfx, i always think these things is too good to be true, but i go for it after i saw the verified profile of Vladislav, i would like to volunteer to help you investigate into this matter, i am also seeking the answer, please let me know how can we do this, PM me, thank you icon_question.gif
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Hello Japin,

Usually these special cases only happened on SCAM brokers where there are no real trades being sent to liquidity provider. They are generous to reimburse the profits on affected accounts to gain your confidents. There are no actual profits but money from new investors. The ball will keep rolling until they decided to stop.
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Thanks, Dr FX. Will get out ASAP and alert my other group members too.

What about TPEAGLE, I also have investment through this company but making me worried also since I saw it listed under your alert list.

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Interesting point of views. Learned a lot from it. Quick question, how bout Tradesto?
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tpeagles

1. dr frankie, his phd is doubtful,  before tpeagle he used to have forex class, charge rm16k per student, need to swear cannot teach others the forex method, if one losses he is not following the method if one wins the method works.

2. read pg 1 of this thread
AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

mgmc has belize license, watch when their reps do presentation to convince people they make it like belize license is something great.

what we after is Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

3. mgmc hypestat, see image, only 21 visitors per day, go compare with oanda fxcm see how many visitors per day.

mgmc disables geographical stats, compare again to genuine brokers geographical stats.

4. imo i find that their ib earn too much commission its bound to collapse, its just a matter of time.
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good info..
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igofx mostly is intentionally to scam.

You try to open the manager account and you will know.
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IGOFX - A shady broker and should not be defended for. Whoever does and receives sceptical views, it is not unexpected.

How to scam in Myfxbook - A broker registers an account in Myfxbook. Manipulates the trades/prices from the broker's side and everything will be updated in Myfxbook. People who see it would think traders like "Vladislav" is a real trader and not a trick done by the broker.

Edit: Not saying "Vladislav" is one tough.

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igofx mostly is intentionally to scam.

You try to open the manager account and you will know.
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Can you explain further please ? Thanks.
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Rules of Thumb in identifying Fake and Legit.

Can you view the live trades in MT4 24hour? -> Yes -> Is most of the trades last for at least 1 hour? -> Yes -> Legit

One no above is confirm scam!

Looks like JJPTR/FxUnited/IGOFX did not fall in above category -> Withdraw all ASAP -> After this post Hell may break lose so act ASAP!!
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look like drfx know everything but for me nothing special...
i'm trader for 9 years exp.

1. fxcoliseum is not a broker .. hanya tempat copy trade antara broker. so dia bukannya scam sebab bukannya broker.

2. broker kebanyakkan yang list dalam scam adalah malaysia base company seperti mocaz igofx premierfx essencefx dan sebagainya adalah local broker. local broker susah untuk dapat regulated dagi negara luar. iadisebabkan banyak halangan seperti mahukan jumlah wang yang besar seperti new zealand perlukan 1 million nzd untuk regulation dari nfz... apakan lagi regulation dari negara europe yang lain.

3. ya memang benar company2 yang ada regulation dari europe uk atau australia adalah yang terbaik tapi hanya broker2 base europe senang dapat sebab mereka mempunyai client yang ramai dan companynya besar dan mempunyai investor untuk company dengan jumlah yang besar. tidak bermakna broker yang kecil kecil ialah broker scam disebabkan mereka tidak ada fund yang besar untuk dapatkan regulation dari negara luar.

4. walaupun broker kecil dari malaysia tapi mereka menjalankan pernigaan dengan baik. mereka bayar semua withdrawal walaupun besar sebabnya credit usd yang withdraw tadi akan di beli oleh trader yang lain atau fund yang broker bayar mampu untuk bayar trader.

5. xm juga retail broker dimana keuntungan diambil dari lost trader buaknnya dari spread. kalau tidak tahu apa itu retail broker sila google. retail broker kita dapat lihat dengan bonus yang tinggi diaman sekiranya akaun negative broker tidak rugi dan trader juga tidak rugi. trade hanya di server broker bukannya di liquidity provider. broker mampu membayar komisyen yang besar kepada ibnya di malaysia.

6. sebenarnya regulated broker dengan badan badan besar tidak membenarkan adanya local depositor maka exness xm insta dan broker2 yang genuine broker yang dilistkan diatas yang ada local depositor diamalaysia adalah tidak regulated atau pun regulated dengan badan2 kecil. local depositor hanyalah untuk memudahkan trader untuk membuat deposit ke broker. ianya perantaraan antara trader dan broker.

sekiranya tiada local depositor duit mesti melalui tt atau credit card yang memberi masalah kepada trader pada satu masa nanti. sebab ianya dibawah amla apabila duit keluar masuk luar negara terlalu banyak. sekiranya trader withdraw 100k usd melalui tt adalah ianya lepas? adakah selamat? saya ada kawan akaun banknya dipaksa close oleh standard charted bank sebab kes withdraw dari oeversea (TT) dengan acap kali.

mengenai igofx... akaun fund manager itu legit dan betul... saya sudah lihat tradenya dgn menggunakan broker yang drfx guna xm... cuma money management dan pips yang diambilnya sedikit2 pada setiap kali trade. sebab tu emosi dan money management adalah penting untuk consistant trading yang tidak ada kepada 95% trader seluruh dunia.

banyak saya ingin cakapkan disini tapi walau banyak mana saya cakap banyak juga argue daripada drfx.

dalam setandan kelapa tak semuanya elok dan tak semuanya tak elok. broker dimalaysia di terlalu banyak...9 tahun dulu marketiva yan gpaling popular dan sekarang bertambah banyak dan ada yang mengambil kesempatan untuk scam menggunakan jenama forex.

yang real forex ini pula yang busuk namanya.
jangan trade di forex yang menawarkan fix ROI iatulah scam seperti fxunited GWG jjptr dan sebagainya. copy trade tak salah. banyak copytrade yang ada di broker kamu pilihlah yang mana satu yang kamu suka.

95% lost dalam forex trading... trading is high risk.. so follow trader yang 5% yang consistent win.


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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Jan 13 2017, 02:48 AM)
look like drfx know everything but for me nothing special...
i'm trader for 9 years exp.

1. fxcoliseum is not a broker .. hanya tempat copy trade antara broker. so dia bukannya scam sebab bukannya broker.

2. broker kebanyakkan yang list dalam scam adalah malaysia base company seperti mocaz igofx premierfx essencefx dan sebagainya adalah local broker. local broker susah untuk dapat regulated dagi negara luar. iadisebabkan banyak halangan seperti mahukan jumlah wang yang besar seperti new zealand perlukan 1 million nzd untuk regulation dari nfz... apakan lagi regulation dari negara europe yang lain.

3. ya memang benar company2 yang ada regulation dari europe uk atau australia adalah yang terbaik tapi hanya broker2 base europe senang dapat sebab mereka mempunyai client yang ramai dan companynya besar dan mempunyai investor untuk company dengan jumlah yang besar. tidak bermakna broker yang kecil kecil ialah broker scam disebabkan mereka tidak ada fund yang besar untuk dapatkan regulation dari negara luar.

4. walaupun broker kecil dari malaysia tapi mereka menjalankan pernigaan dengan baik. mereka bayar semua withdrawal walaupun besar sebabnya credit usd yang withdraw tadi akan di beli oleh trader yang lain atau fund yang broker bayar mampu untuk bayar trader.

5. xm juga retail broker dimana keuntungan diambil dari lost trader buaknnya dari spread. kalau tidak tahu apa itu retail broker sila google. retail broker kita dapat lihat dengan bonus yang tinggi diaman sekiranya akaun negative broker tidak rugi dan trader juga tidak rugi. trade hanya di server broker bukannya di liquidity provider. broker mampu membayar komisyen yang besar kepada ibnya di malaysia.

6.  sebenarnya regulated broker dengan badan badan besar tidak membenarkan adanya local depositor maka exness xm insta dan broker2 yang genuine broker yang dilistkan diatas yang ada local depositor diamalaysia adalah tidak regulated atau pun regulated dengan badan2 kecil. local depositor hanyalah untuk memudahkan trader untuk membuat deposit ke broker. ianya perantaraan antara trader dan broker.

sekiranya tiada local depositor duit mesti melalui tt atau credit card yang memberi masalah kepada trader pada satu masa nanti. sebab ianya dibawah amla apabila duit keluar masuk luar negara terlalu banyak. sekiranya trader withdraw 100k usd melalui tt adalah ianya lepas? adakah selamat? saya ada kawan akaun banknya dipaksa close oleh standard charted bank sebab kes withdraw dari oeversea (TT) dengan acap kali.

mengenai igofx... akaun fund manager itu legit dan betul... saya sudah lihat tradenya dgn menggunakan broker yang drfx guna xm... cuma money management dan pips yang diambilnya sedikit2 pada setiap kali trade. sebab tu emosi dan money management adalah penting untuk consistant trading yang tidak ada kepada 95% trader seluruh dunia.

banyak saya ingin cakapkan disini tapi walau banyak mana saya cakap banyak juga argue daripada drfx.

dalam setandan kelapa tak semuanya elok dan tak semuanya tak elok. broker dimalaysia di terlalu banyak...9 tahun dulu marketiva yan gpaling popular dan sekarang bertambah banyak dan ada yang mengambil kesempatan untuk scam menggunakan jenama forex.

yang real forex ini pula yang busuk namanya.
jangan trade di forex yang menawarkan fix ROI iatulah scam seperti fxunited GWG jjptr dan sebagainya. copy trade tak salah. banyak copytrade yang ada di broker kamu pilihlah yang mana satu yang kamu suka.

95% lost dalam forex trading... trading is high risk.. so follow trader yang 5% yang consistent win.
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You are infomative like wikipedia , but also brainless like wikipedia. Why, because you don't know to analyze the information. You keep focusing on the unimportant and insignificant logic and reasons, but do not question on the primary point.

You emphasized that unregulated broker is not a problem because they just not enough fund to register becomes regulated broker, and furthermore as long as they allow you withdraw, people should trust these brokers. I would say the logic you gave have severe problems and misleading public.

You purposely do not want to highlight the most impotant point such as "what happen if a forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . This is a headshot to die problem of investor regardless the trading skill.

One more point you gave is people should have good trading skill, the skill is more important than selection of brokers. Such illusion that purposely let people feel broker selection is not so important. In the real fact, good broker selection with good trading skill can get mush more benefit. It is not the way you say that just need to solely stress on good skill, but no need care about broker.

As you had said, you have 9 years experience. I would say you are informative, because you know a lot information. But, sorry to say..., you are brainless, because did not analysis on the logic of information you gained. Probably, your 9 years experience are built on "repeat and forward", receive the information from source and repeat/forward to your audiences without analyze the logic with your own brain.


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You are infomative like wikipedia , but also brainless like wikipedia. Why, because you don't know to analyze the information. You keep focusing on the unimportant and insignificant logic and reasons, but do not question on the primary point.

You emphasized that unregulated broker is not a problem because they just not enough fund to register becomes regulated broker, and furthermore as long as they allow you withdraw, people should trust these brokers. I would say the logic you gave have severe problems and misleading public.

You purposely do not want to highlight the most impotant point such as "what happen if a forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . This is a headshot to die problem of investor regardless the trading skill.

One more point you gave is people should have good trading skill, the skill is more important than selection of brokers. Such illusion that purposely let people feel broker selection is not so important. In the real fact, good broker selection with good trading skill can get mush more benefit. It is not the way you say that just need to solely stress on good skill, but no need care about broker.

As you had said, you have 9 years experience. I would say you are informative, because you know a lot information. But, sorry to say..., you are brainless, because did not analysis on the logic of information you gained. Probably, your 9 years experience are built on "repeat and forward", receive the information from source and repeat/forward to your audiences without analyze the logic with your own brain.
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you have option to trade or not to trade... forex is risky... dari pemilihan broker hingga you trade....you trade also chances untuk loss pun tinggi...
i know broker unregulated lagi tinggi untuk scam tapi so far as i know malaysia broker yang scam adalah intelfx... yang lainnya adalah genuine ... they paid all trader yang request withdraw.

kecuali some mlm people jadikan forex broker sebagai money game seperti gwgfx fxunited dan sebagainya... avoid broker yang bagi fix roi....

how much money you trade for living? saya yakin kamu trade tak lebih pun 10k usd starting capital. dan saya yakin kamu bukannya consistent trader. trader bukannya kaya yang kaya adalah broker (retail broker) dan introducing broker dan trader yang buat training class dan jual ebook.

selalunya trader yang bising pasal regulated atau unregulated broker ni adalah trader sampah trade kecil kecil dan bukannya full time trader. attention seeker untuk tunjuk dia tau semuanya dan avoid this avoid that tapi trade kelaut.

compare semua chart yang you kata broker scam broker tu dengan regulated broker... chart price semua sama... kalau lari pun 3-5 pips sahaja sebab different liquidity provider. rules semua sama. come on.... trade consistent profit 1st before you judge the broker. scammer terbesar dalam forex adalah yourself emosi dan teknik...

broker kecil tak close sebab dia tahu more 95% trader akan lost. trade kat mana mana broker regulated pun >95% lost... they have money to pay <5% winning. even you deposit 100k usd you can lost in forex sebab the biggest scammer ialah yourself.

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jan 9 2017, 04:50 AM)
You will be surprised that most of the brokers out there earn a few awards, either by real competition or by a package selling by the web site. You have to question the credibility of the web site before you believe the awards are real.
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DrFX you should help him to verify not to pump back. Anyway I very curious to know this kind award really or a scam?
asia starfishfx what do you think?
I've email to BNM this morning hope they will reply. Beside of this hope you have alternative way to find more answers for every asian ppl.

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you have option to trade or not to trade... forex is risky... dari pemilihan broker hingga you trade....you trade also chances untuk loss pun tinggi...
i know broker unregulated lagi tinggi untuk scam tapi so far as i know malaysia broker yang scam adalah intelfx... yang lainnya adalah genuine ... they paid all trader yang request withdraw.

kecuali some mlm people jadikan forex broker sebagai money game seperti gwgfx fxunited dan sebagainya... avoid broker yang bagi fix roi....

how much money you trade for living? saya yakin kamu trade tak lebih pun 10k usd starting capital. dan saya yakin kamu bukannya consistent trader. trader bukannya kaya yang kaya adalah broker (retail broker) dan introducing broker dan trader yang buat training class dan jual ebook.

selalunya trader yang bising pasal regulated atau unregulated broker ni adalah trader sampah trade kecil kecil dan bukannya full time trader. attention seeker untuk tunjuk dia tau semuanya dan avoid this avoid that tapi trade kelaut.

compare semua chart yang you kata broker scam broker tu dengan regulated broker... chart price semua sama... kalau lari pun 3-5 pips sahaja sebab different liquidity provider. rules semua sama. come on.... trade consistent profit 1st before you judge the broker. scammer terbesar dalam forex adalah yourself emosi dan teknik... 

broker kecil tak close sebab dia tahu more 95% trader akan lost. trade kat mana mana broker regulated pun >95% lost... they have money to pay <5% winning. even you deposit 100k usd you can lost in forex sebab the biggest scammer ialah yourself.
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Again, brainless people always prefer to give brainless excuse. Simply give excuse points to fun/entertain himself, once he successfully been entertained by his own imagination, he also forces his audiences to accept his idea to join his "virtual" world. If people asking the proof of his "virtual" world, he started to become mad in emotion.

You never really give answer on the most important point. "what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? ", which is the topic of this forum.

But keep diverse the focus on other insignificant point/questions, such as regulate/unregulated is not important..., how much you can earn.. and keep emphasize on how much experience you are... 95% 5%SCAMMER.. .. and etc.

Again.. brain (the ability to analysis), wealth (how money earn) and experience (how much you had seen), are totally different meaning. The people has a lot money can be brainless or brain-ful (smart). because these words themselves carries different meanings.

For such simply logic statement, you even also cannot see it clearly. I doubt that what kind of logic/brain you have....

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Again, brainless people always prefer to give brainless excuse. Simply give excuse points to fun/entertain himself, once he successfully been entertained by his own imagination, he also forces his audiences to accept his idea to join his "virtual" world. If people asking the proof of his "virtual" world, he started to become mad in emotion.

You never really give answer on the most important point.  "what happen if a forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? ", which is the topic of this forum.

But keep diverse the focus on other insignificant point/questions, such as regulate/unregulated is not important..., how much you can earn.. and keep emphasize on how much experience you are... 95% 5%SCAMMER.. .. and etc.

Again.. brain (the ability to analysis),  wealth (how money earn) and experience (how much you had seen), are totally different meaning. The people has a lot money can be brainless or brain-ful (smart). because these words themselves carries different meanings.

For such simply logic statement, you even also cannot see it clearly. I doubt that what kind of logic/brain you have....
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Jack_1 if zulutrader brainless then what are you. what zulutrader pointing previous was not wrong at all, not every broker can obtain a regulation at begin business. Whether you have regulation or not risk come to you. The point are those company really get into real forex even no regulation or just scam for money only. Over brain jack_1 have you read how to obtain regulation like tier 1 or 2? If you claim you do why you polish zulutrader brain?

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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:41 PM)
Jack_1 if zulutrader brainless then what are you. what zulutrader pointing previous was not wrong at all, not every broker can obtain a regulation at begin business. Whether you have regulation or not risk come to you. The point are those company really get into real forex even no regulation or just scam for money only. Over brain jack_1 have you read how to obtain regulation like tier 1 or 2? If you claim you do why you polish zulutrader brain?
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You are greatly correct. I am brainless after I read though the posts. That is why I have question.

Forgive my brainless question, because I am really brainless and that is why I wish to ask :

"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

If I am brain-ful, I won't have any question to ask, because perfect. But I am not perfect, in fact. So forgive my brainless and lack of knowledge, I wish to seek the understanding by asking the above question. Maybe you can replace zulutrader to give us an answer, seem like his is not able to answer that. biggrin.gif

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You are greatly correct. I am brainless after I read though the posts. That is why I have question.

Forgive my brainless question, because I am really brainless and that is why I wish to ask :

"what happen if a forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

If I am brain-ful, I won't have any question to ask, because perfect. But I am not perfect, in fact. So forgive my brainless and lack of knowledge, I wish to seek the understanding by asking the above question. Maybe you can replace zulutrader to give us an answer, seem like his is not able to answer that.  biggrin.gif
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Can you confirm those with tier 1 regulation won't close shop and run away?
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Can you confirm those with tier 1 regulation won't close shop and run away?
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Seem like you are brainless like me, so you also interested to ask a question and seeking for an answer. So, don't worry, we can ask hideto79 together.

Mr hide, here is another question for you. But make sure you answer my question first before his.

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:53 PM)
You are greatly correct. I am brainless after I read though the posts. That is why I have question.

Forgive my brainless question, because I am really brainless and that is why I wish to ask :

"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

If I am brain-ful, I won't have any question to ask, because perfect. But I am not perfect, in fact. So forgive my brainless and lack of knowledge, I wish to seek the understanding by asking the above question. Maybe you can replace zulutrader to give us an answer, seem like his is not able to answer that.  biggrin.gif
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did you know about black swan??? when ucf unpax their currency?? regulated broker almost close their shop... do you think their trader will get back their money?

think about that 1st....
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Jan 13 2017, 01:17 PM)
did you know about black swan??? when ucf unpax their currency?? regulated broker almost close their shop... do you think their trader will get back their money?

think about that 1st....
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Again, come back the question, my question is:

"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

My question is not about "black swam" and regulated forex stability perspective. I only as a simple question because I am brainless.

My question is as simple as you see from the meaning of word. Even though I not asking, many normal people will have a same doubt on it. No need replace the question with another question. It is a very simple question only.

you keep escape from this question, and substitute simple question with another complex question without giving proper answer...

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sigh..... close shop n run away? trader get back their money?

this is just one example from genuine broker.
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Hi, I already buy a pop corn to watch movie here. Since today is black friday, I not trade and just watch around

But I am not understand the figure you post (picture may be deleted in some day because want to save storage). Can you give a simple explanation in words? Thank you

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for genuine brokes our money is protected, in the case of fxcm uk we will be compensated up to 50k gbp if fxcm go bankrupt.
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That is so useful. Thank you.

I continue to watch movie here. maybe today can hit 12k views .
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for genuine brokes our money is protected, in the case of fxcm uk we will be compensated up to 50k gbp if fxcm go bankrupt.
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If I'm not mistaken that protection only valid for UK ppl. Not overseas people. It protection is something similar to our PIDM
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If I'm not mistaken that protection only valid for UK ppl. Not overseas people. It protection is something similar to our PIDM
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I think DrFx explained in a few pages before .

Anyway, if, let say only, some reputed brokers does not provide "insurance coverage" to Malaysian , it is not the reason we should go for unregulated broker. Since investor has to choice to go for either sides. I think he should go for the lower combination risk side.

The trading of Buy and Sell itself already has high risk, we just go for regulated forex so that the risk is not increased.

Zulutrader aruged that since the trading of Buy and Sell has high risk, go for unregulated broker is not a problem at all, because of trading itself already high risk. I would say the logic of thinking has problem because investor still can go for regulated broker, if the trading skill is same (constant).

My point are :

trading risk (high risk) + regulated broker (small risk) = high risk

trading risk (high risk) + unregulated broker (high risk) = very high risk

In investor mind, they may not think the risk can be summed up, the overall combined both risky events can be very high risk. IB likes to use a word high risk of trading to cover the story.

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I think DrFx explained in a few pages before .

Anyway, if, let say only, some reputed brokers does not provide "insurance coverage" to Malaysian , it is not the reason we should go for unregulated broker. Since investor has to choice to go for either sides. I think he should go for the lower combination risk side.

The trading of Buy and Sell itself already has high risk, we just go for regulated forex so that the risk is not increased.

Zulutrader aruged that since the trading of Buy and Sell has high risk, go for unregulated broker is not a problem at all, because of trading itself already high risk. I would say the logic of thinking has problem because investor still can go for regulated broker, if the trading skill is same (constant).

My point are :

trading risk (high risk) + regulated broker (small risk) =  high risk

trading risk (high risk) + unregulated broker (high risk) =  very high risk

In investor mind, they may not think the risk can be summed up, the overall combined both risky events can be very high risk.  IB likes to use a word high risk of trading to cover the story.
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Oh I see, then I agree with you on this.
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in my 9 years experience... loser trader will complaint most rather than profitable trader... honestly...

>95% loser trader can cover <5% winning trader.. thats market maker broker... you should research type of broker 1st before you research about regulated broker...

nak trade usd 100-1000 usd tapi cari regulated broker 1st tie... LOL... leverage pun paling tinggi 1:200 memang mampus lah akaun tu....

make your \trading skill perfect 1st before thinking regulated broker...

atas kertas je tulis money back guaranty... when tsunami come... no one thinking of you...believe me.... you got 100kusd to invest not to invest in 1 broker... dont put all egg in 1 basket... event regulated broker it wont guarantee your money safe. please do more research at forexfactory forum...

orang malaysia ni banyak bunyi chinese ka malay ke india ka sama je...

end here and hope kamu semua akan jadi fulltime trader seperti saya. tarde not for rich but for living.
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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:53 PM)
You are greatly correct. I am brainless after I read though the posts. That is why I have question.

Forgive my brainless question, because I am really brainless and that is why I wish to ask :

"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

If I am brain-ful, I won't have any question to ask, because perfect. But I am not perfect, in fact. So forgive my brainless and lack of knowledge, I wish to seek the understanding by asking the above question. Maybe you can replace zulutrader to give us an answer, seem like his is not able to answer that.  biggrin.gif
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what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? biggrin.gif

You are so funny the key word you put there already answer by you self!


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"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? "

Mr hide, the answer is not funny for all people. Maybe it sounds funny for those stay outside of "virtual" world. Many people stay in his own "virtual" world after create my self-excuse, even though the question and answer are so clear, they keep finding alternative question to replace the above question in their mind. Eventually, they escaped to ask this question themselves in mind. Simply take a newspaper, you can read a lot of relevant story.

Mr Zulutrader,

Eventhough you never answer my question in direct, but we all know the answer well.

You claimed you have 9 years experience, but the way you think has very big problem in logical thinking.... Your 9 years experience simply talking experience without logic mind ?

Black swam / tsunami can happen on both unregulated broker and regulated broker. Black swam is a small chance event and not happen every days. You purposely make the small chance event become big in people mind, but never mentioned ever on unregulated broker run away chance.

The chance to happen as following,

(A) Black swam event (small chance) + Regulated broker run away (small chance) = small + small chance = medium chance.

(B) Black swam event (small chance) + Unregulated broker run away (big chance) = small + big chance = very big chance.

Comparison on (A) and (B), (B) is bigger chance to happened.

I not argue on you new post, I am argue on your older post. obviously, you always said something off the topic.
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Mr. Jack_1

Mr hide, the answer is not funny for all people. Maybe it sounds funny for those stay outside of "virtual" world. Many people stay in his own "virtual" world after create my self-excuse, even though the question and answer are so clear, they keep finding alternative question to replace the above question in their mind. Eventually, they escaped to ask this question themselves in mind. Simply take a newspaper, you can read a lot of relevant story.

You have you own good point.

Since forgetful said regulation ran away!

Can you help all the victim FXUNITED as this company have regulation and was deregisted few month. I think lot people will like to hear what you can help them to claim back they money. 1st of all thank for helping them if you do so helpful.
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Prevention to be a SCAMMED victim is main topic and main purpose here.

Many IB will target victim here, and, some IB will create unrelevant topic and unnecassry point to diverse the main purpose of the forum.

It is clear that no all people here has good intention to help, as the topic strongly reduces them to gain benefit, but has the very strong intention to destroy and SPAM the forum with unncessary posts.
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Mr. Jack_1

Mr hide, the answer is not funny for all people. Maybe it sounds funny for those stay outside of "virtual" world. Many people stay in his own "virtual" world after create my self-excuse, even though the question and answer are so clear, they keep finding alternative question to replace the above question in their mind. Eventually, they escaped to ask this question themselves in mind. Simply take a newspaper, you can read a lot of relevant story.

You have you own good point.

Since forgetful said regulation ran away!

Can you help all the victim FXUNITED as this company have regulation and was deregisted few month. I think lot people will like to hear what you can help them to claim back they money. 1st of all thank for helping them if you do so helpful.
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since when i said regulation ran away? I'm saying even with regulation of t1, there is potential of the company to close shop too. What I'm saying is that these protection not protecting locals. but to the UK people
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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 13 2017, 04:46 PM)
"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? "

Mr hide, the answer is not funny for all people. Maybe it sounds funny for those stay outside of "virtual" world. Many people stay in his own "virtual" world after create my self-excuse, even though the question and answer are so clear, they keep finding alternative question to replace the above question in their mind. Eventually, they escaped to ask this question themselves in mind. Simply take a newspaper, you can read a lot of relevant story.

Mr Zulutrader, 

Eventhough you never answer my question in direct, but we all know the answer well.

You claimed you have 9 years experience, but the way you think has very big problem in logical thinking.... Your 9 years experience simply talking experience without logic mind ?

Black swam / tsunami can happen on both unregulated broker and regulated broker. Black swam is a small chance event and not happen every days. You purposely make the small chance event become big in people mind, but never mentioned ever on unregulated broker run away chance.

The chance to happen as following,

(A) Black swam event (small chance) + Regulated broker run away (small chance) = small + small chance = medium chance.

(B) Black swam event (small chance) + Unregulated broker run away (big chance) = small + big chance = very big chance.

Comparison on (A) and (B), (B) is bigger chance to happened.

I not argue on you new post, I am argue on your older post. obviously, you always said something off the topic.
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First, I am not involve in your war biggrin.gif .

However, I am interested on the way you structure the case A and B.. Is there any books or website or PDF teach people arrange the idea like you did ? Thank you.

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Only those who are new, lack of capital, or not so wise will involve himself/herself into non-regulated brokers.

Why choose an unregulated broker when you have regulated brokers. Unless you are so poor and want the 100% bonus when you deposit you 100 dollars. Because 100 dollars is all you've got.

EDIT: Not directing to anyone. Just a thought generally.

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QUOTE(forgetful @ Jan 13 2017, 05:13 PM)
since when i said regulation ran away? I'm saying even with regulation of t1, there is potential of the company to close shop too. What I'm saying is that these protection not protecting locals. but to the UK people
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Don't worry, Mr forgetful.

Mr hide just wants to set up a trap to create rumors, so that relevant people will attack on you. I think his motive is very obvious and no ppl will fall in the trap.

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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Jan 13 2017, 05:19 PM)
First, I am not involve in your war  biggrin.gif  .

However, I am interested on the way you structure the case A and B.. Is there any books or website or PDF teach people arrange the idea like you did ? Thank you.
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Maybe you can try to get him as your personal tutor smile.gif
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This company has very impressive marketing and branding. This does not mean it is not a scam. Above showed are paid either by the owner own money or worse by investors fund.

Any FX company operate and collect funds from investors without proper financial license (At least tier 1 or 2 financial license) are considered scam.
Any FX company with lucrative up front commission for agents and locked clients funds for certain period are completely scam.

Why there is a must to have a top tier license as a genuine broker?

1. Owner cannot run away with your money. The regulator will protect the clients on certain level and hunt the FX broker down if any wrong doing.
2. Well licensed FX brokers required to fulfil regulators requirements especially auditing and compliance rules & regulation.
3. Transparency and no hanky panky.
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so, what trusted and reliable broker in msia that can we have passive income monthly?
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Jan 13 2017, 03:48 PM)
in my 9 years experience... loser trader will complaint most rather than profitable trader... honestly...

>95% loser trader can cover <5% winning trader.. thats market maker broker... you should research type of broker 1st before you research about regulated broker...

nak trade usd 100-1000 usd tapi cari regulated broker 1st tie... LOL... leverage pun paling tinggi 1:200 memang mampus lah akaun tu....

make your \trading skill perfect 1st before thinking regulated broker...

atas kertas je tulis money back guaranty... when tsunami come... no one thinking of you...believe me.... you got 100kusd to invest not to invest in 1 broker... dont put all egg in 1 basket... event regulated broker it wont guarantee your money safe. please do more research at forexfactory forum...

orang malaysia ni banyak bunyi chinese ka malay ke india ka sama je...

end here and hope kamu semua akan jadi fulltime trader seperti saya. tarde not for rich but for living.
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You are wrong zulutrader. It's a disgrace for you to use zulu. We are not saying you are not good, but with 9 years trading experiences doesnt mean you have the knowledge about how scam brokers run their business. You are welcome to share your trading performance.

Never think about unregulated broker regardless how good or bad is your trading skill. This is the basic knowledge as a trader/investor.

Beside, we do not argue about manual traders here but mainly scam brokers like IGOFX who are using manipulated results to attract innocent investors through networkers.

This post has been edited by DrFX: Jan 15 2017, 04:29 AM
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Dear all Sifu

my friend introduced me a new forex investment name MYScapital , the using ADS Prime and sfx markets for trading.

Please advise safe to invest ?

Thank you very much
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Dear all Sifu

my friend introduced me a new forex investment name MYScapital , the using ADS Prime and sfx markets for trading.

Please advise safe to invest ?

Thank you very much
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Managing other people's money is a crime in Malaysia.
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Dear all Sifu

my friend introduced me a new forex investment name MYScapital , the using ADS Prime and sfx markets for trading.

Please advise safe to invest ?

Thank you very much
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Hi J&J+Cs,

SFX Markets is an unregulated St. Vincent offshore FX broker which has scammed many innocent investors with fake trading performance. RED ALERT! devil.gif

ADS Prime is a well regulated broker.

1st, you need to make sure they are showing you their performance statement from ADS Prime, not SFX. If the statements from SFX, 99.99% are fake.

2nd, make sure you are opening account with ADS, not SFX. rolleyes.gif
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Hi J&J+Cs,

SFX Markets is an unregulated St. Vincent offshore FX broker which has scammed many innocent investors with fake trading performance. RED ALERT! devil.gif

ADS Prime is a well regulated broker.

1st, you need to make sure they are showing you their performance statement from ADS Prime, not SFX. If the statements from SFX, 99.99% are fake.

2nd, make sure you are opening account with ADS, not SFX.  rolleyes.gif
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Any proofs to show and confirm igofx's trades are not real and fake?

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Any proofs to show and confirm igofx's trades are not real and fake?
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Refer to my post, most of the transaction last for only few minutes. Rules no.2 violated -> Scam thumbsup.gif

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Refer to my post, most of the transaction last for only few minutes. Rules no.2 violated -> Scam thumbsup.gif
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This is general perception only. Who knows if he is scalper?

Got solid proof?

Like Gold Master, I have solid proof to claim they are XXX....
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wait for Dr Fx to provide us the proof to 100% show that IGOfx is a scam or so
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Anyone know how was GVF now ? last time was very hot until war fight in forex forum.. I think similar type of war repeated now.
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QUOTE(xpmm @ Jan 15 2017, 08:34 PM)
this thread serves as a warning and also reference only, ts gains nothing from it, decision and money are yours you are free to invest in anything you like.

the crux of the thread is simply this:

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

its based on the best knowledge of ts and also those who try to help.

no need to ask for solid proof, you cant even prove you have a mother in a forum, i can disprove it easily.
you will have 100% proof when it close shop and run away.

mface svi monspace tpeagles jjptr are all money games scam and they grow stronger each day because people like easy money, lazy to work, invest rm100k one month get rm5k, some 20k per month. how to 100% prove they are scam?

dont believe they are scam? then invest loh, its your money you decide.
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Like many forumers claimed, if you have no proof to claim their trades are not real, dont simply say that.

I can't even dare to say so until I got proof.

But for Gold Master, I dare to say so because I found the answer.

Everything is based on facts.. TS can claim igofx is unregulated and try to avoid it but he mentioned before that the trades are not real as he has some tools to verify it.

That is why I was asking to share it.


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Any proofs to show and confirm igofx's trades are not real and fake?
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What would you do if we show the proof? Do you need the proof for others scam on the list beside IGOFX?



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Anyone know how was GVF now ? last time was very hot until war fight in forex forum.. I think similar type of  war repeated now.
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GVF is the origin of scam FX syndicate like RCFX, KBFX and many more. It spreads like mushrooms. Please share with us if you have more information.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 16 2017, 12:08 AM)
Like many forumers claimed, if you have no proof to claim their trades are not real, dont simply say that.

I can't even dare to say so until I got proof.

But for Gold Master, I dare to say so because I found the answer.

Everything is based on facts.. TS can claim igofx is unregulated and try to avoid it but he mentioned before that the trades are not real as he has some tools to verify it.

That is why I was asking to share it.
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jack2, you found the answer of Gold Master because there are many victims now? Is that too late?

We have the proof, but it's up to you to believe. We don't gain anything for asking you to believe us. Eventually you will find the answer when there are victims. We heard many TriumphFX victims wanted to take action on the owner. Many don't believe us even when we show the proof in the past. Same goes to IGOFX, there are personal excuses or reasons not to believe when investors blinded by the fake profits.
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What would you do if we show the proof? Do you need the proof for others scam on the list beside IGOFX?
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To assist to spread and alert those investors to pool off before it is too late.
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jack2, you found the answer of Gold Master because there are many victims now? Is that too late?

We have the proof, but it's up to you to believe. We don't gain anything for asking you to believe us. Eventually you will find the answer when there are victims. We heard many TriumphFX victims wanted to take action on the owner. Many don't believe us even when we show the proof in the past. Same goes to IGOFX, there are personal excuses or reasons not to believe when investors blinded by the fake profits.
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Gold master has turned to non paid? I didn't know.
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GVF is the origin of scam FX syndicate like RCFX, KBFX and many more. It spreads like mushrooms. Please share with us if you have more information.
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Below are the info I found just now. I remembered GVF starts in around 2011 and many people "gila" on it , then 2013 disappears and no more news was heard. It has 30% capital lock, Some of my friends really joined it. Because of personal "face" problem, they never want to recall the story.

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-review...refinancing.com

Website is down. Company seems to be out of business.
NOTE: This broker uses multi-level-marketing. It appears that you have to first have an account with them in order to learn any information about this broker.
The FPA recommends only opening accounts with brokers where all information about the brokerage is available to prospective clients before they sign up.
WARNING: The Financial Supervision Commission of the Isle of Man has issued a Public Warning about Global Venture Financing / G.V.F Management Group Limited. CLICK HERE to read the warning.
WARNING 2: The Financial Services Commission of the British Virgin Islands has issued an Advisory Warning about Global Venture Financing / G.V.F Management Group Limited. CLICK HERE to read the warning.


The FPA recommends AGAINST doing business with this company unless the issues with the Isle of Man's FSC and the BVI FSC can be resolved.


The FPA has received reports linking Global Venture Financing to TradeOrbitz.com
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QUOTE(forgetful @ Jan 13 2017, 05:13 PM)
since when i said regulation ran away? I'm saying even with regulation of t1, there is potential of the company to close shop too. What I'm saying is that these protection not protecting locals. but to the UK people
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Maybe i misunderstanding your meaning with jack_1. Lol

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Can you confirm those with tier 1 regulation won't close shop and run away?
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Maybe i misunderstanding your meaning with jack_1. Lol

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No Problem.

Anyway, I'm interested to know which is regulated investment company? How much is the capital needed to open an account and what is the % return per month?
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No Problem.

Anyway, I'm interested to know which is regulated investment company? How much is the capital needed to open an account and what is the % return per month?
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good, but you need to aware that forex broker is not a deposit and saving company. the percentage of return won't generate automatically, you need to trade on your own and probably encounter many loss before win. u can trade in demo account to understand it first. No real money is need to open demo account.
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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Jan 16 2017, 10:10 PM)
good, but you need to aware that forex broker is not a deposit and saving company. the percentage of return won't generate automatically, you need to trade on your own and probably encounter many loss before win. u can trade in demo account to understand it first. No real money is need to open demo account.
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I'm not asking just for forex. I'm asking for investment company. I do know out there have investment company invest for us using our money and we pay them the profit sharing

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I'm not asking just for forex. I'm asking for investment company. I do know out there have investment company invest for us using our money and we pay them the profit sharing
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I see. let me re-organize your statement. you asking for a regulated investment company to trade for you. If win, divide the profit. If loss, loss your portion. Am I right ?

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I see. let me re-organize your statement. you asking for a regulated investment company to trade for you. If win, divide the profit. If loss, loss your portion. Am I right ?
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Hello... I already stated since my first post for a REGULATED investment company.. Do you even understand me?
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https://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/

BNM replay today :
Dear Sir/Madam,

Reference is made to your email dated 13 January 2017.

We wish to inform you that Bank Negara Malaysia (Bank) has released information via various media channels to alert members of the public on scam or illegal activities. Kindly allow some time to read our press statement at http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...&ac=713&lang=en and the Financial Fraud Alert in the Bank's website at http://www.bnm.gov.my/microsites/fraudalert/index.htm.

Please be advised accordingly.

Thank you.

Meor Azlan Meor Hamzah
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No Tel : 1-300-88-5465
No Faks : 03-21741515
Email : bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my

summary no answer my direct question, anyway I try to google with other listing award bursa malaysia.

http://www.nst.com.my/news/2016/07/156827/...hange-asia-2016
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/en/article/b...a-2016%E2%80%99
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how about broker vibhs, are they genuine?
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how about broker vibhs, are  they genuine?
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VIBHS seems like a proper UK FCA regulated broker. For further checking, please let us know what are the products being offered.

We would like to do some verification to avoid any cloned companies.
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I'm not asking just for forex. I'm asking for investment company. I do know out there have investment company invest for us using our money and we pay them the profit sharing
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Ask the question - why the investment company want to invest for you and sharing with you the profit?

CFD Forex is a highly leveraging investment platform. If the investment company is so good in CFD Forex trading, they don't need your capital. They rather to enjoy the 100% profit they made from their limited capital.

So, you need to find out, the reasons why they want your capital!

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Recently saw this : https://fbsmy.com

On facebook while i scrolling as a sponsored/advertised post

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In the webpage, one very rough and easy way to identify is to find the keywords of "US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS."

If you can find these keywords, probably can go for further checking, such as see how other users review the brokers and etc.

If you cannot found those keywords, maybe just forget about this broker.
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Not recommended.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Jan 19 2017, 05:53 PM)
FBS: Suite 5, Garden City Plaza, Mountain View Boulevard, BELMOPAN, Belize, C. A. LicenceIFSC/60/292/TS/15

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Ask the question - why the investment company want to invest for you and sharing with you the profit?

CFD Forex is a highly leveraging investment platform. If the investment company is so good in CFD Forex trading, they don't need your capital. They rather to enjoy the 100% profit they made from their limited capital.

So, you need to find out, the reasons why they want your capital!
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I do know out there, there are investment company that invest for people and earn through profit sharing. If you do not know, it's okay. I just know a few from US. I'm looking for Legit Malaysia investment company. Thanks for your reply though. You didn't answer my question. CFD market can is quite manipulated. If you know how it work.
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I do know out there, there are investment company that invest for people and earn through profit sharing. If you do not know, it's okay. I just know a few from US. I'm looking for Legit Malaysia investment company. Thanks for your reply though. You didn't answer my question. CFD market can is quite manipulated. If you know how it work.
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The answer is there. Just that, you missed it.


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QUOTE(Alissa_1989 @ Jan 19 2017, 06:42 PM)
In the webpage, one very rough and easy way to identify is to find the keywords of "US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS."

If you can find these keywords, probably can go for further checking, such as see how other users review the brokers and etc.

If you cannot found those keywords, maybe just forget about this broker.
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Did u mean perform search of the keyword listed above in their web pages?


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FBS: Suite 5, Garden City Plaza, Mountain View Boulevard, BELMOPAN, Belize, C. A. LicenceIFSC/60/292/TS/15

Not recommended.
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Alright thanks for info!

QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 19 2017, 06:58 PM)
Most Malays are trading with them.
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Did u mean perform search of the keyword listed above in their web pages?
Alright thanks for info!
Yeah, checked on the facebook page xd
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It is a way of fast checking without waste too much time on a broker, because there are hundred thousand brokers in the world.

If they are regulated (the keywords I given) , they definitely will write the keywords in their website in an obvious way. For a broker, regulated is some thing is proud to tell everyone, so they will list out the regulation and won't purposely hide it. Otherwise, you can assume they are unregulated, no need to consider the broker and go for another broker.

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We have conducted several investigation on IGOFX together with few " IGOFX investors". We are here to conclude that IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME that cheating investors with fake trading performance by run as a money game company.

IGOFX investors unable to view live trades through their MT4 account, the account given is only works as a wallet for monthly return payment. IGOFX is using fake web based report to cheat investors and leave them untraceable. They are showing manipulated trading performance through myfxbook to convince new investors. Those experienced traders should know that every GENUINE copy trades or managed accounts service will provide investors live MT4 account view only access through well licensed brokers.

WHY IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME FX?

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.

4. Using Vanuatu license that only cost USD10k to obtain.

5. Fake web based report or money game style login portal.

6. Money game style local funding through self fix exchange rate.

GENIUNE FX COPY TRADES OR MANAGED ACCOUNTS COMMON PRACTISE

1. All investors are given individual MT4 account that able to view their trades live through read only access.

2. Received automated daily confirmation and monthly statement email that consist of all trading activities.

3. Open accounts with tier 1 or 2 licensed brokers.

4. Web based report are synced live with MT4 accounts.

5. No local deposit, sending deposit through TT to broker/bank. (Any local deposits only available through licensed payment gateway)

6. No fix exchange rate, follow bank daily exchange rate.

If you have invested IGOFX, our advise for you is withdraw all available balance. STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM AT ALL COST!

Happy Lunar New Year!

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 5 2017, 03:49 AM)
We have conducted several investigation on IGOFX together with few " IGOFX investors". We are here to conclude that IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME that cheating investors with fake trading performance by run as a money game company.

IGOFX investors unable to view live trades through their MT4 account, the account given is only works as a wallet for monthly return payment. IGOFX is using fake web based report to cheat investors and leave them untraceable. They are showing manipulated trading performance through myfxbook to convince new investors. Those experienced traders should know that every GENUINE copy trades or managed accounts service will provide investors live MT4 account view only access through well licensed brokers.

WHY IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME FX?

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.

4. Using Vanuatu license that only cost USD10k to obtain.

5. Fake web based report or money game style login portal.

6. Money game style local funding through self fix exchange rate.

GENIUNE FX COPY TRADES OR MANAGED ACCOUNTS COMMON PRACTISE

1. All investors are given individual MT4 account that able to view their trades live through read only access.

2. Received automated daily confirmation and monthly statement email that consist of all trading activities.

3. Open accounts with tier 1 or 2 licensed brokers.

4. Web based report are synced live with MT4 accounts.

5. No local deposit, sending deposit through TT to broker/bank. (Any local deposits only available through licensed payment gateway)

6. No fix exchange rate, follow bank daily exchange rate.

If you have invested IGOFX, our advise for you is withdraw all available balance. STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM AT ALL COST!

Happy Lunar New Year!
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Thanks for the detailed report.

However, this report is not enough to convince the investors.

The most convince power is the trades. Did your team perform investigation on all live trades by comparing the prices on the exact time?

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 5 2017, 03:49 AM)
We have conducted several investigation on IGOFX together with few " IGOFX investors". We are here to conclude that IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME that cheating investors with fake trading performance by run as a money game company.

IGOFX investors unable to view live trades through their MT4 account, the account given is only works as a wallet for monthly return payment. IGOFX is using fake web based report to cheat investors and leave them untraceable. They are showing manipulated trading performance through myfxbook to convince new investors. Those experienced traders should know that every GENUINE copy trades or managed accounts service will provide investors live MT4 account view only access through well licensed brokers.

WHY IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME FX?

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.

4. Using Vanuatu license that only cost USD10k to obtain.

5. Fake web based report or money game style login portal.

6. Money game style local funding through self fix exchange rate.

GENIUNE FX COPY TRADES OR MANAGED ACCOUNTS COMMON PRACTISE

1. All investors are given individual MT4 account that able to view their trades live through read only access.

2. Received automated daily confirmation and monthly statement email that consist of all trading activities.

3. Open accounts with tier 1 or 2 licensed brokers.

4. Web based report are synced live with MT4 accounts.

5. No local deposit, sending deposit through TT to broker/bank. (Any local deposits only available through licensed payment gateway)

6. No fix exchange rate, follow bank daily exchange rate.

If you have invested IGOFX, our advise for you is withdraw all available balance. STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM AT ALL COST!

Happy Lunar New Year!
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How do u explain the result?
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235
Its from real account.
u say they are able to cheat myfxbook?
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How do u explain the result?
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235
Its from real account.
u say they are able to cheat myfxbook?
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Very easy only.
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How do u explain the result?
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235
Its from real account.
u say they are able to cheat myfxbook?
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Vladislav probably someone inside igofx
IGOFX can manipulate Vladislav trading results and make him look profitable
Post his trading results at myfxbook to lure customers to open account with IGOFX
myfxbook is just a platform to display his "manipulated" trading

his growth around 15-20% average per month is doable. its not the best in market but its good.
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Feb 5 2017, 01:02 PM)
Vladislav probably someone inside igofx
IGOFX can manipulate Vladislav trading results and make him look profitable
Post his trading results at myfxbook to lure customers to open account with IGOFX
myfxbook is just a platform to display his "manipulated" trading

his growth around 15-20% average per month is doable. its not the best in market but its good.
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How to manipulate the result?
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Feb 5 2017, 01:02 PM)
Vladislav probably someone inside igofx
IGOFX can manipulate Vladislav trading results and make him look profitable
Post his trading results at myfxbook to lure customers to open account with IGOFX
myfxbook is just a platform to display his "manipulated" trading

his growth around 15-20% average per month is doable. its not the best in market but its good.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 5 2017, 01:20 PM)
How to manipulate the result?
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You have well explained but aunty Mnet is still asking u how.

Hahahaha

Better not to provide her more info k/bye.


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How to manipulate the result?
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How your boss create a fake payslip to make your income 10k a month (u have 5k salary a month) for bank to approve your 1million mortgage

QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 5 2017, 01:24 PM)
You have well explained but aunty Mnet is still asking u how.

Hahahaha

Better not to provide her more info k/bye.
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is he/she an auntie or uncle? we might annoying him/her
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How your boss create a fake payslip to make your income 10k a month (u have 5k salary a month) for bank to approve your 1million mortgage
is he/she an auntie or uncle? we might annoying him/her
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I dont know his/her identity. He/She has been here since 10 years ago and still behaves like 10 years ago's attitude..

Those old members who were here 10 years ago and are still here should know.. MNet... hehe console.gif
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Feb 5 2017, 01:30 PM)
How your boss create a fake payslip to make your income 10k a month (u have 5k salary a month) for bank to approve your 1million mortgage
is he/she an auntie or uncle? we might annoying him/her
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Double posted...

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I dont know his/her identity. He/She has been here since 10 years ago and still behaves like 10 years ago's attitude..

Those old members who were here 10 years ago and are still here should know.. MNet... hehe console.gif
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i hope she is not the auntie cashier at Mynet cybercafe in my neighbourhood here
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Good job Drfx, which top tier 1 broker you recommend to start trading with?
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I can make a program to read data and when there is trade opened, you will receive notification and you can login to check the trades.

Anyone is willing to investigate this, please let me know.
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Cmk96 new account?
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Cmk96 new account?
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not me. don't be fooled.
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Why same nick n newbie too
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Why same nick n newbie too
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maybe the same person who created jack1? biggrin.gif

you are jack2... coincidence? biggrin.gif

both newbie accounts.
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maybe the same person who created jack1?  biggrin.gif

you are jack2... coincidence?  biggrin.gif

both newbie accounts.
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Ya, my first thought was him...
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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 5 2017, 09:52 AM)
How do u explain the result?
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235
Its from real account.
u say they are able to cheat myfxbook?
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As we mentioned on our previous posts, trades are editable from top to bottom through MT4 Administrator system including open price, close price, date, time, etc. Just like your Windows setting as long as the broker hold MT4 license. Without strict regulation, these scam brokers are capable to do anything on the trades.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 5 2017, 09:47 AM)
Thanks for the detailed report.

However, this report is not enough to convince the investors.

The most convince power is the trades. Did your team perform investigation on all live trades by comparing the prices on the exact time?
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Hi Jack2,

Yes we did. It's only through the manipulated Myfxbook account.

Since IGOFX clients are not given any live trading MT4 accounts, there is no way to show the results. There are no real trading going on, so no point wasting time.

Scammers are smart to leave investors in the dark on the trades.

Please compare the genuine copy trades and managed accounts common practise to understand the different.

This post has been edited by DrFX: Feb 5 2017, 11:14 PM
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Hi Jack2,

Yes we did. It's only through the manipulated Myfxbook account.

Since IGOFX clients are not given any live trading MT4 accounts, there is no way to show the results. There are no real trading going on, so no point wasting time.

Scammers are smart to leave investors in the dark on the trades.

Please compare the genuine copy trades and managed accounts common practise to understand the different.
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There are other brokers who offer copytrade or PAMM system whereby they do not have MT4 too because they are not MAM.
For instance, alpari PAMM.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 5 2017, 11:26 PM)
There are other brokers who offer copytrade or PAMM system whereby they do not have MT4 too because they are not MAM.
For instance, alpari PAMM.
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Real PAMM accounts do come with live web based report including open trades. It's completely different with what IGOFX showing.


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Real PAMM accounts do come with live web based report including open trades. It's completely different with what IGOFX showing.
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Igofx's open trades are visible... and past closed trades as well.

I don't see their system has issue.

The only concern is the trades if they are executed at real prices and timing without any back orders.

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Based on our investigation, IGOFX investors can only see trades history, mean closed trades. There is no LIVE open trades on the web based report inside their login portal.

Feel free to share the open trades report. Thank you.
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Based on our investigation, IGOFX investors can only see trades history, mean closed trades. There is no LIVE open trades on the web based report inside their login portal.

Feel free to share the open trades report. Thank you.
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There is. I saw before until they closed the trades. You need to present the correct time and refresh the page every seconds or minutes.
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There is. I saw before until they closed the trades. You need to present the correct time and refresh the page every seconds or minutes.
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Please share the print screen on the live open trades.

We can provide the live trading account for you to make the comparison if you can provide us the MT4 login details for Vladislav7.

There are many unanswered questions which make them very fishy. Since the trader is so good, why not trading with top regulated brokers? We guaranteed there are millions of funds waiting to let him trade.

If they are real IGOFX STP broker, which liquidity provider do they clear the trades with? If there is one, they should able to provide the LP statements too. We doubt they have any liquidity provider.

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 6 2017, 12:39 AM)
Please share the print screen on the live open trades.

We can provide the live trading account for you to make the comparison if you can provide us the MT4 login details for Vladislav7.

There are many unanswered questions which make them very fishy. Since the trader is so good, why not trading with top regulated brokers? We guaranteed there are millions of funds waiting to let him trade.

If they are real IGOFX STP broker, which liquidity provider do they clear the trades with? If there is one, they should able to provide the LP statements too. We doubt they have any liquidity provider.
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LOL.. where do I able to get his MT4 login?

For live open trades, I need to present at the usual time he trades and refresh the page to see only. If I could manage to see it, I print screen for you. But what you can do with such screenshot? At the time you got the screenshot, the trades have been closed because most of the trades are only few minutes.

Other than there was one trade of USDJPY which he stucked into it for few weeks (if not mistaken, till 1 month) opened.

About the questions on STP or LP or whatever, we are unable to verify it unless their investors or (your team of investors who assisted you to investigate) e-mail them and request such info.

So, straight to the point that the only thing we can do is, verify the trades if they are executed at real market price and real market time.

This post has been edited by jack2: Feb 6 2017, 12:52 AM
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LOL.. where am I able to get his MT4 login?

For live open trades, I need to present at the usual time he trades and refresh the page to see only. If I could manage to see it, I print screen for you. But what you can do with such screenshot? At the time you got the screenshot, the trades have been closed because most of the trades are only few minutes.

Other than there was one trade of USDJPY which he stucked into it for few weeks (if not mistaken, till 1 month) opened.

About the questions on STP or LP or whatever, we are unable to verify it unless their investors or (your team of investors who assisted you to investigate) e-mail them and request such info.

So, straight to the point that the only thing we can do is, verify the trades if they are executed at real market price and real market time.
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You are right. Straight into point, they have done the setup in the way to avoid people from checking or verify their trades. Keeping all the live open trades private will prevent investors from tracking them, they also keep their open trades private in Myfxbook. To us, they have failed many points on our investigation as a genuine broker. We never fail on our judgement.

Good night.


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https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235

Open trades, history trades and all the trades are set to private.
So, we have no way to check if the fills are correct.
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You are right. Straight into point, they have done the setup in the way to avoid people from checking or verify their trades. Keeping all the live open trades private will prevent investors from tracking them, they also keep their open trades private in Myfxbook. To us, they have failed many points on our investigation as a genuine broker. We never fail on our judgement.

Good night.
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Ignore myfxbook.

Live open trade is available to see via Web portal.

We continue to discuss tomorrow

QUOTE(troller2 @ Feb 6 2017, 01:00 AM)
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Vladislav7...adislav/1576235

Open trades, history trades and all the trades are set to private.
So, we have no way to check if the fills are correct.
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Ignore myfxbook.

Live open trade is available to see via Web portal.

We continue to discuss tomorrow
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I see.
Mind to give me the link to this guy's trades.
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I see.
Mind to give me the link to this guy's trades.
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I just realised one thing that the igofx's copytrade/fund management page is only available to members.

Without login to member portal, there is no menu or any information relating to IGOFX copytrade/fund management system....

So I couldn't provide you such link to view his trade history.

This is weird!!!
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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. LMAX
9. FXCM
10. Saxobank
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. HY Markets
15. ADS Securities
16. FXDD
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31.
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List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
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29.
30.
In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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you can add this to your List of Genuine Forex Brokers

Fullerton Markets

www.fullertonmarkets.com
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QUOTE(Globalstar86 @ Feb 6 2017, 11:36 AM)
you can add this to your List of Genuine Forex Brokers

Fullerton Markets

www.fullertonmarkets.com
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My apologised. We do not endorsed New Zealand based FX broker due to lack of investors protection.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 6 2017, 10:36 AM)
I just realised one thing that the igofx's copytrade/fund management page is only available to members.

Without login to member portal, there is no menu or any information relating to IGOFX copytrade/fund management system....

So I couldn't provide you such link to view his trade history.

This is weird!!!
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Not at all.

It's the way of protecting themselves from people like us.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 6 2017, 03:26 PM)
Not at all.

It's the way of protecting themselves from people like us.
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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To protect themselves from being investigated by people like us in this forum, especially TS or jack.

Normal visitors will not know that IGOFX has copytrade service or so called PAMM and this service is only visible to members who get introduced from members to members.

This post has been edited by greenpips: Feb 6 2017, 04:23 PM
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what about this?
http://www.esteemtrader.com/

is this genuine forex brokers?
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what about this?
http://www.esteemtrader.com/

is this  genuine forex brokers?
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We are revamping our website for better user experience.

This may take some time and we thank you for your patience with us in the interim.

Should you have any query, you may contact us at +61 3 8689 9545 or email us at cs@esteemtrader.com.

Click here to login to portal


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QUOTE(greenpips @ Feb 6 2017, 04:33 PM)
We are revamping our website for better user experience.

This may take some time and we thank you for your patience with us in the interim.

Should you have any query, you may contact us at +61 3 8689 9545 or email us at cs@esteemtrader.com.

Click here to login to portal
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i see...but i opened never bank in money at all..jus use their platform see live chart
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QUOTE(greenpips @ Feb 6 2017, 04:22 PM)
To protect themselves from being investigated by people like us in this forum, especially TS or jack.

Normal visitors will not know that IGOFX has copytrade service or so called PAMM and this service is only visible to members who get introduced from members to members.
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i registered straight on their website... no need introducer la.
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i registered straight on their website... no need introducer la.
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Without being members, you wouldnt know they have copytrade right?

You joined and invest Vlad?
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Without being members, you wouldnt know they have copytrade right?

You joined and invest Vlad?
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Told already ma... i trade manual only... but once you have an account... u will see the PAMM page as well after you log in.
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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Feb 6 2017, 05:11 PM)
Told already ma... i trade manual only... but once you have an account... u will see the PAMM page as well after you log in.
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Ya la.. if you never know about igofx copytrade from mouth, will you join and register with such broker?

And why they didn't make it visible in the main page?
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Ya la.. if you never know about igofx copytrade from mouth, will you join and register with such broker?

And why they didn't make it visible in the main page?
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the more a broker looks like scam... the more i am interested... i trade just for fun here... seriously.

i think i am the few % of trader who trade manual in Igofx. i don't bother about the PAMM... genuine or not... dun ask me.
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tht link tht i share is from tht company i show above..
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No matter how "branded" the broker is, still main busuk

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fxcm-bann...ents-2017-02-06
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 7 2017, 09:18 AM)
No matter how "branded" the broker is, still main busuk

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fxcm-bann...ents-2017-02-06
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It does happened with all kind of FX brokers. The good thing about regulated brokers is you get to complaint for justice or compensations. You can only cry for nothing when unregulated brokers scam your money.


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fxcm very wellknown broker... and then today "FXCM and CEO Drew Niv kicked out US Forex market, fined $7 million for defrauding customers"

http://www.leaprate.com/2017/02/fxcm-and-c...ding-customers/

see.... all regulated broker also tak boleh percaya...

jangan letak 2 telur tu dalam 1 bakul... letak telur tu dalam 2 bakul ok.
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 06:22 PM)
fxcm very wellknown broker... and then today "FXCM and CEO Drew Niv kicked out US Forex market, fined $7 million for defrauding customers"

http://www.leaprate.com/2017/02/fxcm-and-c...ding-customers/

see.... all regulated broker also tak boleh percaya...

jangan letak 2 telur tu dalam 1 bakul... letak telur tu dalam 2 bakul ok.
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Tu dia....

Betul...

Letak telur tu dalam 2 bakul yang well regulated. thumbup.gif
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Saxo Bank is a retail foreign exchange trading bank. The idea of forex trading as a retail product is mildly offensive any way. [I simply can't see how you can make money doing this in any consistent manner.]

However the (a) lack of systems and (b) depth of the scam is revealed by Saxo's statement after the giant Swiss Franc move today. To quote:

“Due to today’s exceptional market movement in CHF crosses, we have been filling client orders and positions in an extremely illiquid market. Once we are better able to establish true market liquidity, all executed fills will be revisited, and will be revised and amended to more accurate levels. This may result in a worse execution rate than the originally filled level.”

It is of course garbage of the highest order that in the biggest currency movement of recent times there pertained an "extremely illiquid market". If Saxo quoted the wrong price the problem is Saxo's systems.

Instead Saxo is just stealing from its clients. It did a deal and they traded at a rate - and they are rewriting that deal to suit them.

Theft is the right word.

Any regulator that lets Saxo Bank do this is failing it core functions.

Saxo bank's licenses should be revoked.

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Saxo Bank (an investment bank 'regulated' in the EU) was allowed to re-quote their entire client base that traded CHF pairs SNBomb 15 Jan 2015. That is the ONLY reason they are still alive today.

All these distractions about reducing leverage, negative balance protection, etc do not actually promote transparency. TRANSPARENCY and forcing the broker to prove no (or show conflict of interests) is what will allow this industry to move forward. Gain Capital apparently has been more forthcoming with the fact that they are technically a bucket shop, so they are still standing.


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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 06:43 PM)
Saxo Bank is a retail foreign exchange trading bank. The idea of forex trading as a retail product is mildly offensive any way. [I simply can't see how you can make money doing this in any consistent manner.]

However the (a) lack of systems and (b) depth of the scam is revealed by Saxo's statement after the giant Swiss Franc move today. To quote:

    “Due to today’s exceptional market movement in CHF crosses, we have been filling client orders and positions in an extremely illiquid market. Once we are better able to establish true market liquidity, all executed fills will be revisited, and will be revised and amended to more accurate levels. This may result in a worse execution rate than the originally filled level.”

It is of course garbage of the highest order that in the biggest currency movement of recent times there pertained an "extremely illiquid market". If Saxo quoted the wrong price the problem is Saxo's systems.

Instead Saxo is just stealing from its clients. It did a deal and they traded at a rate - and they are rewriting that deal to suit them.

Theft is the right word.

Any regulator that lets Saxo Bank do this is failing it core functions.

Saxo bank's licenses should be revoked.
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Are you sure above issues won't happened on unregulated or offshore brokers? brows.gif
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Are you sure above issues won't happened on unregulated or offshore brokers?  brows.gif
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yes its happen.. so regulated or not it dont matter for me... asalkan profit saya berbayar. dont judge any broker hanya kerana tak regulated atau regulated...
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 06:55 PM)
yes its happen.. so regulated or not it dont matter for me... asalkan profit saya berbayar. dont judge any broker hanya kerana tak regulated atau regulated...
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So what if you don't get any payment in a sudden? What should you do?
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So what if you don't get any payment in a sudden? What should you do?
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its ok for me... all profit account... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif if my starter balance what should i do?? please go to forexfactory...forexpeacearmy myfxbook forum dan sebagainya...even regulated broker also tak bayar withdrawal trader dengan macam2 reason. pergi la tengok..exness ada fxprimus ada xm ada insta ada.. semua ada kes tak bayar withdrawal dgn macam2 alasan...

so regulated adalah alasan untuk gain customer confident sahaja bagi saya.

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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 07:18 PM)
its ok for me... all profit account...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif if my starter balance what should i do?? please go to forexfactory...forexpeacearmy myfxbook forum dan sebagainya...even regulated broker also tak bayar withdrawal trader dengan macam2 reason. pergi la tengok..exness ada fxprimus ada xm ada insta ada.. semua ada kes tak bayar withdrawal dgn macam2 alasan...

so regulated adalah alasan untuk gain customer confident sahaja bagi saya.
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I see. Please don't mislead people. It's very irresponsible just because you think offshore unregulated is ok for yourself. Profit account ok, then if account without profit? If you trade yourself with few hundred US dollars, nobody care since it's small amount but when investors invest with few thousand to hundred thousand, that's our concern.

You are here probably because you are operating an offshore FX broker for Malay markets. We understand your points come from where.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 07:37 PM)
I see. Please don't mislead people. It's very irresponsible just because you think offshore unregulated is ok for yourself. Profit account ok, then if account without profit? If you trade yourself with few hundred US dollars, nobody care since it's small amount but when investors invest with few thousand to hundred thousand, that's our concern.

You are here probably because you are operating an offshore FX broker for Malay markets. We understand your points come from where.
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you are wrong ... i'm trader i bukan owner broker ... sekarang you dah tak ada idea so you just pointing me sebagai owner broker? u r wrong man... i ada account di instafx.. fxprimus exness xm mocaz fbs dan beberapa broker lagi...

i bukan mislead people... but i'm sharing my experience dalam forex in malaysia culture... malaysia dia mahukan local depositor senang deposit dan withdrawal within 24 hours daripada guna telegraphic transfer ambil masa 3 hari bekerja dan risk money laundring sebab duit masuk dari luar negara lagi risk berbanding duit yang bertukar tangan dari dalam negara.

yang menarik saya nak komen disini bila fxcoleseum dalam list kamu yang kamu katakan broker forex rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ..fxcoliseum adalah tempat copytrade...ini menunjukan kamu bukan kaji betul2 sebelum taruk dalam list...kamu just assume ini regulated ini tidak walau pun ia bukan broker. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

siapa di malaysia ni fund hundred thounsand in 1 broker??? you are in risk.. so pecahkan dua atau 3 akaun di 3 broker berlainan.. tapi kamu jangan kata unregulated broker itu broker tipu... ia mungkin genuine business tapi local business yang susah untuk dapatkan regulated dari us euro atau mana2 regulation body yang ketat.


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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 07:53 PM)
you are wrong ... i'm trader i bukan owner broker ... sekarang you dah tak ada idea so you just pointing me sebagai owner broker? u r wrong man... i ada account di instafx.. fxprimus exness xm mocaz fbs dan beberapa broker lagi...

i bukan mislead people... but i'm sharing my experience dalam forex in malaysia culture... malaysia dia mahukan local depositor senang deposit dan withdrawal within 24 hours daripada guna telegraphic transfer ambil masa 3 hari bekerja dan risk money laundring sebab duit masuk dari luar negara lagi risk berbanding duit yang bertukar tangan dari dalam negara.

yang menarik saya nak komen disini bila fxcoleseum dalam list kamu yang kamu katakan broker forex  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  ..fxcoliseum adalah tempat copytrade...ini menunjukan kamu bukan kaji betul2 sebelum taruk dalam list...kamu just assume ini regulated ini tidak walau pun ia bukan broker. bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

siapa di malaysia ni fund hundred thounsand in 1 broker??? you are in risk.. so pecahkan dua atau 3 akaun di 3 broker berlainan.. tapi kamu jangan kata unregulated broker itu broker tipu... ia mungkin genuine business tapi local business yang susah untuk dapatkan regulated dari us euro atau mana2 regulation body yang ketat.
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We never said you are. Just probably. Well Do you think copy trades mean not scam? IGOFX also copy trades. Copy trades with unknown brokers also SCAM.

We do not mind to remove FXColeseum from the list if there are genuine brokers copy trades results.

End of the day, it doesnt affect us as we get nothing from doing this.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 08:00 PM)
We never said you are. Just probably. Well Do you think copy trades mean not scam? IGOFX also copy trades. Copy trades with unknown brokers also SCAM.

We do not mind to remove FXColeseum from the list if there are genuine brokers copy trades results.

End of the day, it doesnt affect us as we get nothing from doing this.

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By the way, we never have any issues on sending and receiving money from regulated brokers/bank even the amount is 6 figures and above.

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By the way, we never have any issues on sending and receiving money from regulated brokers/bank even the amount is 6 figures and above.
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are you serius? even from your local bank???BNM? stan chart ask my friend to withdraw all money and close acc because to many transaction from oversea and its come from forex... as u know individual forex trading is illegal in malaysia even u trade guna regulated broker.

paling tinggi saya withdraw adalam 4k usd dari fxprimus
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Hi Alissa,

FXPrimus used to be a FX broker with plenty of bad slippages. Since their Mauritius license suspended, they have obtained Cyprus CySEC FX license and operate as an European entity. Due to their bad records, we do not list them on genuine FX brokers.

Personally i won't pick them as my FX broker since there are plenty of choices out there.
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via Telegraphic transfer nad they paid... even u tak list dalam genuine broker tapi dia paid melalui TT...

since you sending and receiving thru international bank... local bank and BNM can track untuk apa dan tujuan apa duit itu digunakan... so kebarangkalian untuk dipanggil ke BNM for investigation purpose lagi besar. you so lucky withdraw 6 figure and safe...if not 1st local bank call you asking about this money and documentation.

i assume you not experience yet on this issue.....
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shock to see FXCM US bungkus.

Even regulated broker can koyak. Aiyo
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has anyone tried plus500 or xm?

Are they legit? (both regulated under CySEC and FCA)
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 7 2017, 09:42 PM)
are you serius? even from your local bank???BNM? stan chart ask my friend to withdraw all money and close acc because to many transaction from oversea and its come from forex... as u know individual forex trading is illegal in malaysia even u trade guna regulated broker.

paling tinggi saya withdraw adalam 4k usd dari fxprimus
via Telegraphic transfer nad they paid... even u tak list dalam genuine broker tapi dia paid melalui TT...

since you sending and receiving thru international bank... local bank and BNM can track untuk apa dan tujuan apa duit itu digunakan... so kebarangkalian untuk dipanggil ke BNM for investigation purpose lagi besar. you so lucky withdraw 6 figure and safe...if not 1st local bank call you asking about this money and documentation.

i assume you not experience yet on this issue.....
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Zulutrader... if you are worried on withdrawal into local bank... how you intend to make big profit in forex?

I received few times 6-figures from UK and Cyprus... no issue la.
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 7 2017, 11:12 PM)
has anyone tried plus500 or xm?

Are they legit? (both regulated under CySEC and FCA)
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I am with XM they looks professional and legitimate
the most user friendly website of all bucketshops
u can get $30 real account without deposit, mine already wiped out by them during the Brexit
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I am with XM they looks professional and legitimate
the most user friendly website of all bucketshops
u can get $30 real account without deposit, mine already wiped out by them during the Brexit
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So I can open an xm zero with the welcome bonus?

Cause xm zero has smaller spread compared to standard account

Bucketshop = MM? The price we trade doesn't reflect the actual market condition with varying spread by brokers?

If I understand correctly, only IB is consider ECN?

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 7 2017, 11:41 PM)
So I can open an xm zero with the welcome bonus?

Cause xm zero has smaller spread compared to standard account

Bucketshop = MM? The price we trade doesn't reflect the actual market condition with varying spread by brokers?

If I understand correctly, only IB is consider ECN?
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XM ZERO has small spread but u have to pay commisions and i dont think they offer USD30 for xm zero, but you can check with them

Bucketshop / market maker can reflect the actual price, but you are trading inside the "House"
dont believe what they offer ECN, STP, 1: 1000 leverage.. thats all bullsh.. your order will never be executed to interbank market

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Zulutrader... if you are worried on withdrawal into local bank... how you intend to make big profit in forex?

I received few times 6-figures from UK and Cyprus... no issue la.
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its up to you... if u kena .. please remember me ok.. i just warn you before you make mistake. im not like you... i'm trade for living not for rich... just aim 1k usd-3k usd permonth or 20%-40% from my capital already enough for living. i withdraw using local depositor not money from oversea.

good luck to all of you.

forex is ricky from deposit until withdrawal. in the middle of deposit and withdrawal only 5% win. hope 5% including all of you.
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 8 2017, 12:34 AM)
its up to you... if u kena .. please remember me ok.. i just warn you before you make mistake. im not like you... i'm trade for living not for rich... just aim 1k usd-3k usd permonth or 20%-40% from my capital already enough for living. i withdraw using local depositor not money from oversea.

good luck to all of you.

forex is ricky from deposit until withdrawal. in the middle of deposit and withdrawal only 5% win. hope 5% including all of you.
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so you are follower or trader?
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are you serius? even from your local bank???BNM? stan chart ask my friend to withdraw all money and close acc because to many transaction from oversea and its come from forex... as u know individual forex trading is illegal in malaysia even u trade guna regulated broker.

paling tinggi saya withdraw adalam 4k usd dari fxprimus
via Telegraphic transfer nad they paid... even u tak list dalam genuine broker tapi dia paid melalui TT...

since you sending and receiving thru international bank... local bank and BNM can track untuk apa dan tujuan apa duit itu digunakan... so kebarangkalian untuk dipanggil ke BNM for investigation purpose lagi besar. you so lucky withdraw 6 figure and safe...if not 1st local bank call you asking about this money and documentation.

i assume you not experience yet on this issue.....
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No issue doesnt mean no experience. There are many being blocked from sending money oversea for FX purpose. It's depend on how you handle it.

If you have no experience nor good records, yes then you will called up by BNM for coffee when you received FX withdrawal especially from unregulated offshore brokers. It's part of the money laundering act. You will not have issue if you withdraw from well regulated brokers/banks.

You are kind of confuse. First you complaint about fxprimus not paying, then now you said they paid you even we did not list on the genuine list. What are you thinking?

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withdraw money from oversea for fx to local bank u need jaga jaga..
nowaday BNM very strict..money laundering act
even Bank (maybe compliance side( will call BNM too when bank check where the money come from
even local bank also ask u detail avoid kena fine from BNM
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its up to you... if u kena .. please remember me ok.. i just warn you before you make mistake. im not like you... i'm trade for living not for rich... just aim 1k usd-3k usd permonth or 20%-40% from my capital already enough for living. i withdraw using local depositor not money from oversea.

good luck to all of you.

forex is ricky from deposit until withdrawal. in the middle of deposit and withdrawal only 5% win. hope 5% including all of you.
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Either you can or can not be rich. No such thing as don't want be rich.

I trade for living n paid my taxes even i don't need to.
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QUOTE(zulutrader @ Feb 8 2017, 12:34 AM)
its up to you... if u kena .. please remember me ok.. i just warn you before you make mistake. im not like you... i'm trade for living not for rich... just aim 1k usd-3k usd permonth or 20%-40% from my capital already enough for living. i withdraw using local depositor not money from oversea.

good luck to all of you.

forex is ricky from deposit until withdrawal. in the middle of deposit and withdrawal only 5% win. hope 5% including all of you.
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Hi Zul, can tell me which local depositors u using.
I plan to deposit some.Thanks
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Hi Zul, can tell me which local depositors u using.
I plan to deposit some.Thanks
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The rate is quite high like u deposit rate is USD1=RM4.8 but withdraw USD1=RM4.6.

Just an example.
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to be safe, use local depositor (IB) or local e-currency / e-wallet exchanger (Neteller, Skrill, Perfect Money)
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to be safe, use local depositor (IB) or local e-currency / e-wallet exchanger (Neteller, Skrill, Perfect Money)
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credit card is more secure
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credit card is more secure
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hi there every1,

just wanted to ask, is FX pro safe to use? and does any1 use it before?... need to know which is the safest way to deposit money in all these brokers.. im new in all of this, just wanna try to invest some money and try to trade.. hahaha..

Initially fxcm is giving a very good customer service, and they are able to use credit card to deposit money into their account but suddenly there are some bad news about fxcm in US. so im losing confidence in them, haha..

Thanks in advance.
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I found this http://www.igofxmalaysia.com/ which believes to be igoFX IB
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I found this http://www.igofxmalaysia.com/ which believes to be igoFX IB
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Totally no confident at this when i looked at the contact us section.
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Totally no confident at this when i looked at the contact us section.
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Because this page is prepared by IB, not the broker itself.
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hi there every1,

just wanted to ask, is FX pro safe to use? and does any1 use it before?... need to know which is the safest way to deposit money in all these brokers.. im new in all of this, just wanna try to invest some money and try to trade.. hahaha..

Initially fxcm is giving a very good customer service, and they are able to use credit card to deposit money into their account but suddenly there are some bad news about fxcm in US. so im losing confidence in them, haha..

Thanks in advance.
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FXCM is the best despite the news. they hv the best customer svc and professional

who give a f about them trading against clients. they are all bucketshops no matter what they claim they are

opppss.. i better shut my mouth before i piss off some ECN fans here
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QUOTE(Miner88 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:58 AM)
hi there every1,

just wanted to ask, is FX pro safe to use? and does any1 use it before?... need to know which is the safest way to deposit money in all these brokers.. im new in all of this, just wanna try to invest some money and try to trade.. hahaha..

Initially fxcm is giving a very good customer service, and they are able to use credit card to deposit money into their account but suddenly there are some bad news about fxcm in US. so im losing confidence in them, haha..

Thanks in advance.
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Yes, FXPro is fine, it hold UK FCA and CYSEC license.

FXCM is operating like a common brokers and could be much professional than many others. They are unfortunate to hold a US license where the complaints from American that usually very effective. It's one of the key reasons many US FX brokers quit US and move to Europe. Basically there is no harm if you trade with few thousands dollar.

It's also show us the important of top regulators.

This post has been edited by DrFX: Feb 11 2017, 05:16 AM
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Either you can or can not be rich. No such thing as don't want be rich.

I trade for living n paid my taxes even i don't need to.
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Hi CMK, did you trade manually or EA mind to share some.
Just curious tq
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Hi CMK, did you trade manually or EA mind to share some.
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I trade manually.
This is not the tread to discuss trading strategies or EA.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 11 2017, 08:35 PM)
Fly aeroplane??
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This tread become like kopitiam tread with such funny post.
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This thread is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

If you are looking for solid broker to trade FX, commodity, CFDs or global stocks, PM me. We provide FREE consultation on Swiss banking account opening, trading education and asset management.

We are prime partner of Swissquote Bank, the Swiss leader in online trading. Swissquote hold Swiss banking license and regulated by UK FCA, Malta MFSA, Dubai DFSA and Hong Kong SFC. The public bank is listed on the SIX Swiss Exchange (symbol: SQN) since May 29, 2000.

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QUOTE(terrytan @ Feb 12 2017, 03:07 AM)
This thread is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

If you are looking for solid broker to trade FX, commodity, CFDs or global stocks, PM me. We provide FREE consultation on Swiss banking account opening, trading education and asset management.

We are prime partner of Swissquote Bank, the Swiss leader in online trading. Swissquote hold Swiss banking license and regulated by UK FCA, Malta MFSA, Dubai DFSA and Hong Kong SFC. The public bank is listed on the SIX Swiss Exchange (symbol: SQN) since May 29, 2000.

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i wanna ask whether IIB international is a scam or legit company?

the website : http://iibinternationalbroker.com/MainForm.aspx

I dont feel comfortable but what is your advise?

tq sifus smile.gif
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hi sifus,

i wanna ask whether IIB international is a scam or legit company?

the website : http://iibinternationalbroker.com/MainForm.aspx

I dont feel comfortable but what is your advise?

tq sifus smile.gif
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DOMAIN INFORMATION
Domain:iibinternationalbroker.com
Registrar:GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registration Date:2015-07-04
Expiration Date:2018-07-04
Updated Date:2017-02-08
Status:clientDeleteProhibited
clientRenewProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Name Servers:cns7.my-hosting-panel.com
cns8.my-hosting-panel.com


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Established in 2004 IIB International Broker Limited Which is headquartered in Liverpool, United Kingdom as an International Online Forex & CFD.

IIB International Broker has its registered office in Exchange Flags Horton House, Liverpool L2 3PF, United Kingdom.


Took 11 years for them to create a website? and paid for 3 years only?

Exchange Flags Horton House, Liverpool L2 3PF, United Kingdom <-- offered virtual office

No business registration and not regulated with any financial institution

This is bucketshop at the highest level.
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hi sifus,

i wanna ask whether IIB international is a scam or legit company?

the website : http://iibinternationalbroker.com/MainForm.aspx

I dont feel comfortable but what is your advise?

tq sifus smile.gif
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We could not find any regulation info on this web site. However, there is a warning about clone IIB International Broker on UK FCA site.

https://www.fca.org.uk/news/warnings/iib-in...al-broker-clone

Please tell us more about the offer you received from this broker.
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We could not find any regulation info on this web site. However, there is a warning about clone IIB International Broker on UK FCA site.

https://www.fca.org.uk/news/warnings/iib-in...al-broker-clone

Please tell us more about the offer you received from this broker.
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tq to all sifus for your replies. Rilly appreciate it.

i've been approached by my aunt pertaining this broker and the broker has assisted my auntie to apply for an account. so far, my aunt has not bank in any money yet. she has approached me about it and asked me to do a check. i've done a website search and i dont feel comfortable as you have mentioned that they are not regulated in UK. i better let my aunt knows. thank you all sifus notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(niel82 @ Feb 13 2017, 11:20 AM)
tq to all sifus for your replies. Rilly appreciate it.

i've been approached by my aunt pertaining this broker and the broker has assisted my auntie to apply for an account. so far, my aunt has not bank in any money yet. she has approached me about it and asked me to do a check. i've done a website search and i dont feel comfortable as you have mentioned that they are not regulated in UK. i better let my aunt knows. thank you all sifus  notworthy.gif
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There s a lot of good brokers. Let ur auntie use uncle Google or pick any from drfx list of genuine broker here
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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. LMAX
9. FXCM
10. Saxobank
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. HY Markets
15. ADS Securities
16. FXDD
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31. Plus500
32.

List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29.
30.
In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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RICHWAY - illegal too
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RICHWAY - illegal too
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Richway is not broker... doh.gif doh.gif
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Dear Sifus....

How about PTFX from indonesia ? They provide 2 fund managers for copy trades .

Nowadays alot of copy trades compamy / marketing team in malaysia especially penang. Majority are AGREED forex trades make money but most of the investors have ZERO knowledge about forex. So, profit sharing forex investment platform ( 70% profit back to investor & 30% to IB & fund manager ) are very popular now. IGOfx one of them

Please advise . Thank you very much


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Dear Sifus....

How about PTFX from indonesia ? They provide 2 fund managers for copy trades .

Nowadays alot of copy trades compamy / marketing team in malaysia especially penang. Majority are AGREED forex trades make money but most of the investors have ZERO knowledge about forex. So, profit sharing forex investment platform  ( 70% profit back to investor & 30% to IB & fund manager ) are very popular now. IGOfx one of them

Please advise . Thank you very much
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Ya... it is the most popular now - IGOFX and all IBs earn a lot!!!! Everyday seeing them post their screenshot of IB commissions.... no need work liao
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Dear Sifus....

How about PTFX from indonesia ? They provide 2 fund managers for copy trades .

Nowadays alot of copy trades compamy / marketing team in malaysia especially penang. Majority are AGREED forex trades make money but most of the investors have ZERO knowledge about forex. So, profit sharing forex investment platform  ( 70% profit back to investor & 30% to IB & fund manager ) are very popular now. IGOfx one of them

Please advise . Thank you very much
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The best way is the learn the trading skills on your own... no need rely on others. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(J&J+Cs @ Feb 17 2017, 11:02 AM)
Dear Sifus....

How about PTFX from indonesia ? They provide 2 fund managers for copy trades .

Nowadays alot of copy trades compamy / marketing team in malaysia especially penang. Majority are AGREED forex trades make money but most of the investors have ZERO knowledge about forex. So, profit sharing forex investment platform  ( 70% profit back to investor & 30% to IB & fund manager ) are very popular now. IGOfx one of them

Please advise . Thank you very much
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Hello J&J+Cs,

Please provide us more information about PTFX including their web site. We shall do some background check and due diligence.


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Hello J&J+Cs,

Please provide us more information about PTFX including their web site. We shall do some background check and due diligence.
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总公司网站:
http://www.pruton-futures.com/id/(期货)
http://www.prutoncapital.com/id/(外汇)
公司官方网站:https://www.ptfxcapital.com/
公司登录网址:https://member.ptfxcapital.com/
官方注册地址:https://member.ptfxcapital.com/RegisterCH
操盘手交易历史查询权威网站:www.myfxbook.com
PTFX平台操盘手资料查询:https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PT1319/ptfx-trader-1/1866219

PTFX注册教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7dDQ

MT4账户登录教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7kQI

网页版MT4账户下载登录教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7n4j

PTFX奖金制度及举例:http://dwz.cn/4W7oK9

Pruton Futures 印度尼西亚十大 外汇交易平台之一
网站查询地址:http://www.bestonlineforexbrokers.com/Online-Forex-Brokers/Forex-Broker-Country-Lists/Forex-Brokers-by-Countries-Pg27.html


公司证件执照:外汇期货交易执照
证件号:SPAB/160/JFX/o1/2013
证件查询网址:www.jfx.co.id (印尼证监局官方网站)请翻墙打开


公司证件执照:外汇期货交易执照
证件号:79/AK-KBI/III/2013
证件查询网址:www.ptkbi.com (印尼衍生品结算所官方网站)

公司证件执照:商品期货交易执照
证件号:12/BAPPEBTI/SI/02/2013
证件查询网址:www.bappebti.go.id(商品期货交易监管机构)



This all details from my friends icon_question.gif , all the send the link from wechat.....

Thank you very much
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I have a question, is forex legal in Indonesia ?
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I have a question, is forex legal in Indonesia ?
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总公司网站:
http://www.pruton-futures.com/id/(期货)
http://www.prutoncapital.com/id/(外汇)
公司官方网站:https://www.ptfxcapital.com/
公司登录网址:https://member.ptfxcapital.com/
官方注册地址:https://member.ptfxcapital.com/RegisterCH
操盘手交易历史查询权威网站:www.myfxbook.com
PTFX平台操盘手资料查询:https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PT1319/ptfx-trader-1/1866219

PTFX注册教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7dDQ

MT4账户登录教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7kQI

网页版MT4账户下载登录教程:http://dwz.cn/4W7n4j

PTFX奖金制度及举例:http://dwz.cn/4W7oK9

Pruton Futures 印度尼西亚十大 外汇交易平台之一
网站查询地址:http://www.bestonlineforexbrokers.com/Online-Forex-Brokers/Forex-Broker-Country-Lists/Forex-Brokers-by-Countries-Pg27.html
公司证件执照:外汇期货交易执照
证件号:SPAB/160/JFX/o1/2013
证件查询网址:www.jfx.co.id (印尼证监局官方网站)请翻墙打开
公司证件执照:外汇期货交易执照
证件号:79/AK-KBI/III/2013
证件查询网址:www.ptkbi.com (印尼衍生品结算所官方网站)

公司证件执照:商品期货交易执照
证件号:12/BAPPEBTI/SI/02/2013
证件查询网址:www.bappebti.go.id(商品期货交易监管机构)
Unfortunately, Indonesia FX license has no credibility and this company has make it even worse to confuse investors on their licenses. Furthermore, they did not publish their license number on their web site.

There are warning on prutoncapital.com about potential clone companies who claim as their partner.

And we sense something very wrong with their past trading performance on myfxbook. whistling.gif

If you can provide us their MT4 login details, we can conduct an investigation on their trades to confirm any manipulation.

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LOL.,,,,

Richway is not broker... doh.gif  doh.gif
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Jjprt also not a broker but listed there..LOL
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Jjprt also not a broker but listed there..LOL
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Jjpro is broker.
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How did you initially fund your account? Was it through bank wire transfer or local depositor?
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Updates: The withdrawal has been transferred in to my bank account using wire transfer. The withdrawal of IGOFX using wire transfer took almost 3 weeks before the fund into my bank account. I initially fund my account using wire transfer, and according to IGOFX, the funding and withdrawal must be same and therefore I cannot choose to withdraw using local depositor.
I am hoping that in future the withdraw will be more smoother and take less time.

I would be interested to know the investigation of DrFX on Vladislav's trade history using MT4 login provided by other member here.
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Igofx copytrade is not able to have MT4 view by investors as trader has no communication with copytraders directly.

If he provides login, wecan see price manipulation
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why http://home.tpeagles.com/ is scam?
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Dunno....
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Updates: The withdrawal has been transferred in to my bank account using wire transfer.  The withdrawal of IGOFX using wire transfer took almost 3 weeks before the fund into my bank account.  I initially fund my account using wire transfer, and according to IGOFX, the funding and withdrawal must be same and therefore I cannot choose to withdraw using local depositor.
I am hoping that in future the withdraw will be more smoother and take less time.

I would be interested to know the investigation of DrFX on Vladislav's trade history using MT4 login provided by other member here.
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Non of the IGOFX members given any MT4 login with live trading. The MT4 accounts login given to members only work as e-wallet.

It's very unusual copy trades, we have concluded that IGOFX is 100% SCAM.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Feb 19 2017, 02:12 PM)
After major loss on their trades with a broker, they have switch their business model to non transparency money game type of ROI.

TP EAGLES current FX broker is a Belize licensed broker. sweat.gif
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After major loss on their trades with a broker, they have switch their business model to non transparency money game type of ROI.

TP EAGLES current FX broker is a Belize licensed broker.  sweat.gif
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tp eagle related with MGMC?
min 3k usd to join
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tp eagle related with MGMC?
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https://iiinvestments.com/

is also scam
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Why u know a lot of scam plans?
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Please share more information about this scam. Many forumers would love to stay alert on any potential scams. Thank you.

They seems like trading with FXCM.
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Please share more information about this scam. Many forumers would love to stay alert on any potential scams. Thank you.

They seems like trading with FXCM.
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u can see this guy is design the website
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/web...-hours.2789096/

When u search for this guy thread,
https://www.digitalpoint.com/search/31791265/

u will see that fxverified is own by themself
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/web...ock-up.2768636/

other forex investment by same guy
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/100...ebsite.2651775/
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u can see this guy is design the website
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/web...-hours.2789096/

When u search for this guy thread,
https://www.digitalpoint.com/search/31791265/

u will see that fxverified is own by themself
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/web...ock-up.2768636/

other forex investment by same guy
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/100...ebsite.2651775/
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You did a good job to identify this. I believe those websites like myfxbook or fxblue or forexverified would be able to filter those good quality traders and copy out the trades to their own pocket money!
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has anyone tried xtrade and roboforex?
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igofx

USDJPY 2017-02-15 14:17:40 114.88 2017-02-15 14:27:51 114.75 1.99
GBPUSD 2017-02-14 12:02:31 1.2463 2017-02-14 12:16:29 1.2483 2.13
EURJPY 2017-02-09 12:04:19 120.03 2017-02-09 12:15:15 120.13 0.49
GBPUSD 2017-02-07 13:16:44 1.2368 2017-02-07 13:28:30 1.2355 0.68

Anyone can go and check the prices!

Time = GMT0

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many ppl say is scam..but non is losing their money
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many ppl say is scam..but non is losing their money
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igofx

USDJPY  2017-02-15 14:17:40  114.88  2017-02-15 14:27:51  114.75  1.99
GBPUSD  2017-02-14 12:02:31  1.2463  2017-02-14 12:16:29  1.2483  2.13
EURJPY  2017-02-09 12:04:19  120.03  2017-02-09 12:15:15  120.13  0.49
GBPUSD  2017-02-07 13:16:44  1.2368  2017-02-07 13:28:30  1.2355  0.68

Anyone can go and check the prices!

Time = GMT0
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If I am not mistaken IGOFX only post the trades after the trades has closed, so even though the price is accurate it doesn't mean that the trades are real trades. Unless any of the investor able to see their opened trades. And most of their trades last for few minutes only, might be difficult to catch it unless someone keep on looking at the screen and keep refresh every minute.


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If I am not mistaken IGOFX only post the trades after the trades has closed, so even though the price is accurate it doesn't mean that the trades are real trades.  Unless any of the investor able to see their opened trades.  And most of their trades last for few minutes only, might be difficult to catch it unless someone keep on looking at the screen and keep refresh every minute.
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No. As soon as the trades are opened and you refresh the page, you would be able to read the open trades. You can check and compare the open and close prices.. You will see something.
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If someone is able to communicate with the Vladislav trader and convince him to use other well known and regulated broker, I am willing to challenge him that he won't be able to be profitable.

Think wisely why such a good trader would use unknown and unregulated broker on copy trade? Secondly, the copytrade is not publicity to all visitors but only to members who have accounts.

If normal visitors visit igofx and they wouldn't know about this. In conclusion, they get well known from members to members. Think again why they don't want it to be open view that igofx has copytrade service?
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Xtrade i'm trade b4 ,its not a scam...im have withdraw money from Xtrade b4


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Xtrade i'm trade b4 ,its not a scam...im have withdraw money from Xtrade b4
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Money Withdrawal is the right of investor suppose to have, not the way to verify scam.
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Money Withdrawal is the right of investor suppose to have, not the way to verify scam.
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well said
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xtrade is scam.
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can share more about it? thanks smile.gif

p/s : seems like no one is using roboforex tongue.gif
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can share more about it? thanks smile.gif

p/s : seems like no one is using roboforex tongue.gif
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A weird thing that many people like to trade with unknown or not popular brokers.

Read all the reviews
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-review.../www.xtrade.com

Xtrade is Xforex - was a big scam broker that was actively advertising in facebook.
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Let discuss another broker from Indonesia - Sentratama Investor

user posted image

Check on the latest trade AUDCHF and how they wanna XXX investors.

Conclusion = Buy and sell at very low/high price in which the price is not exist or non-market price

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QUOTE(greenpips @ Feb 21 2017, 08:34 AM)
A weird thing that many people like to trade with unknown or not popular brokers.

Read all the reviews
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-review.../www.xtrade.com

Xtrade is Xforex - was a big scam broker that was actively advertising in facebook.
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can i copy yr trade? hehe
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can i copy yr trade? hehe
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If you can press copy via there. rclxms.gif
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hi TS, can i know whether HotForex is genuine? i understand you mentioned it's from st vincent, but it appears that the review for this broker looks pretty ok. And they offer a lot of PAMM services.

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Xtrade i'm trade b4 ,its not a scam...im have withdraw money from Xtrade b4
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with that amount in your account you can withdraw as much as you want. they don't care about you.
but if you are winning big you will see their true color.
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Let discuss another broker from Indonesia - Sentratama Investor

user posted image

Check on the latest trade AUDCHF and how they wanna XXX investors.

Conclusion = Buy and sell at very low/high price in which the price is not exist or non-market price
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Can you explain more ? if I not mistake, black circle is the open price of the trade and red circle is the current bid price .
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Can you explain more ? if I not mistake, black circle is the open price of the trade and red circle is the current bid price .
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Ignore the colours of the circles.

The instrument was long at 0.7688 (ask price) at 1559 time but the high and low prices at that 1 min chart were 0.7689 / 0.7687. These prices are bid price (every one knows it).

The spreads for this AUDCHF instrument is 5 pips.

The lowest at that 1 min was 0.7687 (bid price). This is long trade and thus, the ask price should 7687 + 5 pips = 0.7692.

How could the trade was able to long at 0.7688? Think for it.

It is the same for the closed price.

Check out other brokers for this pair at the times. It is magic thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(greenpips @ Feb 21 2017, 09:18 AM)
Let discuss another broker from Indonesia - Sentratama Investor

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Check on the latest trade AUDCHF and how they wanna XXX investors.

Conclusion = Buy and sell at very low/high price in which the price is not exist or non-market price
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QUOTE(greenpips @ Feb 21 2017, 09:42 PM)
Ignore the colours of the circles.

The instrument was long at 0.7688 (ask price) at 1559 time but the high and low prices at that 1 min chart were 0.7689 / 0.7687. These prices are bid price (every one knows it).

The spreads for this AUDCHF instrument is 5 pips.

The lowest at that 1 min was 0.7687 (bid price). This is long trade and thus, the ask price should 7687 + 5 pips = 0.7692.

How could the trade was able to long at 0.7688? Think for it.

It is the same for the closed price.

Check out other brokers for this pair at the times. It is magic  thumbup.gif
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"Many" use this way to "cheax" investors including iXoXX
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hi TS, can i know whether HotForex is genuine? i understand you mentioned it's from st vincent, but it appears that the review for this broker looks pretty ok. And they offer a lot of PAMM services.
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Hotforex is not ok. It's a cheap offshore broker with no investor protection. The reviews can be from themselves.
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i dont recommend broker with PAMM service. its a conflict of interest
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Heard about PPTA?

https://www.facebook.com/Coconutwei.FX/post...654919304733189
http://phantomfx-tflive.blogspot.my/
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Thursday, April 3, 2014 hmm.gif
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Heard about it before. I think it is a Chinese forex group and using HotForex as the broker.

Not sure whether it is legit or not but seems like the group has been running for a few years.



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Let discuss another broker from Indonesia - Sentratama Investor

user posted image

Check on the latest trade AUDCHF and how they wanna XXX investors.

Conclusion = Buy and sell at very low/high price in which the price is not exist or non-market price
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Thanks for sharing. Added to our scam list.
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Heard about it before. I think it is a Chinese forex group and using HotForex as the broker.

Not sure whether it is legit or not but seems like the group has been running for a few years.
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Thanks for sharing. Added to our scam list.
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Hi,

Did you verify what I shared is correct?
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Never trust any performance records on myfxbook taken from unregulated or offshore regulated brokers.
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Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. I'm currently looking for a new forex broker as well and based on your guide, I will try XM and GDMFX. rclxms.gif



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Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. I'm currently looking for a new forex broker as well and based on your guide, I will try XM and GDMFX.  rclxms.gif
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Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. I'm currently looking for a new forex broker as well and based on your guide, I will try XM and GDMFX.  rclxms.gif
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XM is quite ok, I have been using them for around 2 years.

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another bucketshop

fxopen
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another bucketshop

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I use this bucket
CS is good, they are experienced broker
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I use this bucket
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Response and replies are slow. Finance is not 24 hours in operating.

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We have conducted several investigation on IGOFX together with few " IGOFX investors". We are here to conclude that IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME that cheating investors with fake trading performance by run as a money game company.

IGOFX investors unable to view live trades through their MT4 account, the account given is only works as a wallet for monthly return payment. IGOFX is using fake web based report to cheat investors and leave them untraceable. They are showing manipulated trading performance through myfxbook to convince new investors. Those experienced traders should know that every GENUINE copy trades or managed accounts service will provide investors live MT4 account view only access through well licensed brokers.

WHY IGOFX IS A SCAM/PONZI SCHEME FX?

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.

4. Using Vanuatu license that only cost USD10k to obtain.

5. Fake web based report or money game style login portal.

6. Money game style local funding through self fix exchange rate.

GENIUNE FX COPY TRADES OR MANAGED ACCOUNTS COMMON PRACTISE

1. All investors are given individual MT4 account that able to view their trades live through read only access.

2. Received automated daily confirmation and monthly statement email that consist of all trading activities.

3. Open accounts with tier 1 or 2 licensed brokers.

4. Web based report are synced live with MT4 accounts.

5. No local deposit, sending deposit through TT to broker/bank. (Any local deposits only available through licensed payment gateway)

6. No fix exchange rate, follow bank daily exchange rate.

If you have invested IGOFX, our advise for you is withdraw all available balance. STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM AT ALL COST!

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Hi, tbh i pour some money into igo, but i don't find all those problem at all. But i'm still worry about this and trying to unveil the truth. I think you need to transparent your investigation so other ppl wont fail into this.

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.
I wear spec, and 4 of my eyes can totally view the trades.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.
I'm not sure, but mine can self-trade on mt4, in fact i'm losing trade any sifu can guide me? sad.gif

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.
I actually received daily confirmation email the day after, if there is any trade closed on that day.

Other license stuff i don't know.. i just newbie T_T

Anyway, some ppl might ask if this record vlad guy is so good why don't he trade at other regulated broker?
I think i have the answer though, my personal opinion. Because the darn copy is not free, he actually took quite a portion from the profit every month as subscription fees. From my understanding the amount already exceed millions. PS/ He is a scalper.

Anyway, i still curious if it's really a scam or not. Here's a screenshot of the active order of that Vladislav77 guy. (With date and time and price). Can you please check if it's really live trading or just scam?

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QUOTE(Miner88 @ Feb 10 2017, 02:25 PM)
Totally no confident at this when i looked at the contact us section.
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You got to the wrong 1, see below link~ thumbup.gif
http://igofx.com/contact-us/
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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 24 2017, 01:09 PM)
Hi, tbh i pour some money into igo, but i don't find all those problem at all. But i'm still worry about this and trying to unveil the truth. I think you need to transparent your investigation so other ppl wont fail into this.

1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.
I wear spec, and 4 of my eyes can totally view the trades.

2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.
I'm not sure, but mine can self-trade on mt4, in fact i'm losing trade any sifu can guide me? sad.gif

3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.
I actually received daily confirmation email the day after, if there is any trade closed on that day.

Other license stuff i don't know.. i just newbie T_T

Anyway, some ppl might ask if this record vlad guy is so good why don't he trade at other regulated broker?
I think i have the answer though, my personal opinion. Because the darn copy is not free, he actually took quite a portion from the profit every month as subscription fees. From my understanding the amount already exceed millions. PS/ He is a scalper.

Anyway, i still curious if it's really a scam or not. Here's a screenshot of the active order of that Vladislav77 guy. (With date and time and price). Can you please check if it's really live trading or just scam?

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See your replies sudah tahu u r newbie.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 24 2017, 04:26 PM)
See your replies sudah tahu u r newbie.
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Dude i don't know you can't read, because i said i'm newbie in the reply.
I post this because i don't see anyone provide screenshot for the active order that actually being placed to verify if it's live or not. I just want to know, because i actually invest some money in it.

I'm newbie and willing to learn but at least i don't act highly like Mr Know Everything like you do. You are probably those kind of jerk that backstabbing your colleague and promote yourself infront of boss in workplace, or those %$@@$ that blame your teammate when you died @ dota2.

Dude that was my 1st post in this forum since i register @ 2010, i didn't even know how to reply earlier.

But i know you'r a bad guy.
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Dude i don't know you can't read, because i said i'm newbie in the reply.
I post this because i don't see anyone provide screenshot for the active order that actually being placed to verify if it's live or not. I just want to know, because i actually invest some money in it.

I'm newbie and willing to learn but at least i don't act highly like Mr Know Everything like you do. You are probably those kind of jerk that backstabbing your colleague and promote yourself infront of boss in workplace, or those %$@@$ that blame your teammate when you died @ dota2.

Dude that was my 1st post in this forum since i register @ 2010, i didn't even know how to reply earlier.

But i know you'r a bad guy.
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1. IGOFX Investors do not able to view live trades through MT4 platform.
I wear spec, and 4 of my eyes can totally view the trades.
He was talking about LIVE TRADES via MT4 platform and not via WEB CABINET.


What your 4 eyes SEE is trades shown in cabinet.


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2. IGOFX Investors MT4 account only works as a wallet.
I'm not sure, but mine can self-trade on mt4, in fact i'm losing trade any sifu can guide me? sad.gif
His mean is IGOFX investors (who place investment in managers) have no MT4 and the account information is just like wallet. But you were talking about self-trade via MT4 if you are trading yourself. Not investing.

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3. Investors do not received daily confirmation nor monthly statements by email which usually consist of all trading activities.
I actually received daily confirmation email the day after, if there is any trade closed on that day.


Again, your daily confirmation email is your own MT4 trading account. Not the investment account.


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Anyway, some ppl might ask if this record vlad guy is so good why don't he trade at other regulated broker?
I think i have the answer though, my personal opinion. Because the darn copy is not free, he actually took quite a portion from the profit every month as subscription fees. From my understanding the amount already exceed millions. PS/ He is a scalper.


Again, other regulated brokers have copytrading service or anything that Igofx is offering. So your personal opinion is not strong enough to support this mistery.

You seem to be a newbie but not really a newbie that has self defensive to give questions and self answered. thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 24 2017, 04:39 PM)
Dude i don't know you can't read, because i said i'm newbie in the reply.
I post this because i don't see anyone provide screenshot for the active order that actually being placed to verify if it's live or not. I just want to know, because i actually invest some money in it.

I'm newbie and willing to learn but at least i don't act highly like Mr Know Everything like you do. You are probably those kind of jerk that backstabbing your colleague and promote yourself infront of boss in workplace, or those %$@@$ that blame your teammate when you died @ dota2.

Dude that was my 1st post in this forum since i register @ 2010, i didn't even know how to reply earlier.

But i know you'r a bad guy.
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I lol'ed reading your post. but come on, jack2 is a nice guy. go slow on him.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 24 2017, 05:48 PM)
He was talking about LIVE TRADES via MT4 platform and not via WEB CABINET.
What your 4 eyes SEE is trades shown in cabinet.
His mean is IGOFX investors (who place investment in managers) have no MT4 and the account information is just like wallet. But you were talking about self-trade via MT4 if you are trading yourself. Not investing.
Again, your daily confirmation email is your own MT4 trading account. Not the investment account.
Again, other regulated brokers have copytrading service or anything that Igofx is offering. So your personal opinion is not strong enough to support this mistery.

You seem to be a newbie but not really a newbie that has self defensive to give questions and self answered.  thumbsup.gif
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Bro i just here to learn and now i understand it from you. People asking nicely you don't have to step on ppl first before sharing your thoughts. Anyway thanks bro, no hard feeling.

I guess i have to withdraw and close acc after i earn enough though.
Even it's scam, stuff like JJPTR a lot of people still earning money. So i guess, it's your own risk to pour money in stuff like this.

Between, some1 told me FCA license has new regulation that they do not allow copy trade is that truth?
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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 25 2017, 12:41 AM)
Bro i just here to learn and now i understand it from you. People asking nicely you don't have to step on ppl first before sharing your thoughts. Anyway thanks bro, no hard feeling.

I guess i have to withdraw and close acc after i earn enough though.
Even it's scam, stuff like JJPTR a lot of people still earning money. So i guess, it's your own risk to pour money in stuff like this.

Between, some1 told me FCA license has new regulation that they do not allow copy trade is that truth?
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It's not truth. Basically UK FCA will not entertain SCAM FX like IGOFX. We know IGOFX keep saying they are getting UK FCA license to lure innocent investors like you, IGOFX will never get UK FCA license even though they are not doing copy trades. They have misused the copy trades term where in fact they are not doing any genuine copy trades. It's just a cartoon show that showing investors unreal trades via cutie web based report.

Stuff like JJPTR and IGOFX are games, not genuine investment. Play at your own risk.
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 24 2017, 05:48 PM)
He was talking about LIVE TRADES via MT4 platform and not via WEB CABINET.
What your 4 eyes SEE is trades shown in cabinet.
His mean is IGOFX investors (who place investment in managers) have no MT4 and the account information is just like wallet. But you were talking about self-trade via MT4 if you are trading yourself. Not investing.
Again, your daily confirmation email is your own MT4 trading account. Not the investment account.
Again, other regulated brokers have copytrading service or anything that Igofx is offering. So your personal opinion is not strong enough to support this mistery.

You seem to be a newbie but not really a newbie that has self defensive to give questions and self answered.  thumbsup.gif
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Nice 1, jack2! thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 25 2017, 12:41 AM)
Bro i just here to learn and now i understand it from you. People asking nicely you don't have to step on ppl first before sharing your thoughts. Anyway thanks bro, no hard feeling.

I guess i have to withdraw and close acc after i earn enough though.
Even it's scam, stuff like JJPTR a lot of people still earning money. So i guess, it's your own risk to pour money in stuff like this.

Between, some1 told me FCA license has new regulation that they do not allow copy trade is that truth?
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 25 2017, 05:22 AM)
It's not truth. Basically UK FCA will not entertain SCAM FX like IGOFX. We know IGOFX keep saying they are getting UK FCA license to lure innocent investors like you, IGOFX will never get UK FCA license even though they are not doing copy trades. They have misused the copy trades term where in fact they are not doing any genuine copy trades. It's just a cartoon show that showing investors unreal trades via cutie web based report.

Stuff like JJPTR and IGOFX are games, not genuine investment. Play at your own risk.
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Are you someone from BNM or finance ministry staff. im just curious
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http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2017/20170224_FCA_ENi.pdf
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:47 PM)
No worry. Nothing will be happened.
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:47 PM)
Liberty Reserve under forex trading hmm.gif this list is fcuked up
Jack Ma not happy with this because no igofx

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Liberty Reserve under forex trading hmm.gif this list is fcuked up
Jack Ma not happy with this because no igofx
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We can't find 1MDB on the list too. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 26 2017, 01:40 AM)
We can't find 1MDB on the list too. hmm.gif
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Liberty Reserve is payment processor but listed as forex trading
Please get your staff to correct it
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Sup guys, so if i want to trade by myself? Which broker shall i go for as a newbie? I don't quite understand the different between each of them aside from spread.

Pick 1 from the list @ the first page? Anyway is Zulutrade good? Should i just go with their recommend for AAAFx?
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Sup guys, so if i want to trade by myself? Which broker shall i go for as a newbie? I don't quite understand the different between each of them aside from spread.

Pick 1 from the list @ the first page? Anyway is Zulutrade good? Should i just go with their recommend for AAAFx?
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So far I only used plus500 and xm.

Plus 500 have higher minimum lot size trading and varied between different instruments, and also lower margin leverage and also varies between instrument, but it does allow trailing stop loss and offer stocks and bitcoin instrument trading.

XM has an account option to have low spread (but with commission) and also use mt4 contrast with plus500 using its own platform, but mt4 dont have traditional MACD, hard to use it on android sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 26 2017, 11:39 PM)
Sup guys, so if i want to trade by myself? Which broker shall i go for as a newbie? I don't quite understand the different between each of them aside from spread.

Pick 1 from the list @ the first page? Anyway is Zulutrade good? Should i just go with their recommend for AAAFx?
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ZuluTrader not a broker but social trading platform
AAAFX need min 300 deposit
As a newbie, open a cent account 100 with any recommended broker in DRFX list
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 26 2017, 11:46 PM)
So far I only used plus500 and xm.

Plus 500 have higher minimum lot size trading and varied between different instruments, and also lower margin leverage and also varies between instrument, but it does allow trailing stop loss and offer stocks and bitcoin instrument trading.

XM has an account option to have low spread (but with commission) and also use mt4 contrast with plus500 using its own platform, but mt4 dont have traditional MACD, hard to use it on android sweat.gif
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Do XM still have local depositor now?
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Feb 27 2017, 12:57 AM)
ZuluTrader not a broker but social trading platform
AAAFX need min 300 deposit
As a newbie, open a cent account 100 with any recommended broker in DRFX list
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Cent acc mean micro or mini? Anyway there's this swissquote that contact me, are they good? it's in the genuine list though.

I just got a demo with aaafx in zulutrade, so far so good though.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 13 2016, 02:16 AM)
How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. FXDD
9. FXCM
10. HY Markets
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. Saxobank
15. ADS Securities
16. LMAX
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30.
31.
32.
List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Capital Foster Advisor
23. Otex World
24.
25.

In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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hi, can u show me the evidence of the vortex assets & VTX premium as scam ?
coz my friend have intro it to me ~ & i have check online but not much found.
please advise. TQ
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Cent acc mean micro or mini? Anyway there's this swissquote that contact me, are they good? it's in the genuine list though.

I just got a demo with aaafx in zulutrade, so far so good though.
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AAAFx's spreads are different for demo and real account, they offers ultra tight spreads for demo account but you will not able to get this kind of tight spreads in real account.
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QUOTE(Macau @ Feb 27 2017, 05:43 PM)
AAAFx's spreads are different for demo and real account, they offers ultra tight spreads for demo account but you will not able to get this kind of tight spreads in real account.
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How could this broker offers diff spreads for demo and live account when both are totally not same condition...

It is totally tipu orang
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QUOTE(Macau @ Feb 27 2017, 05:43 PM)
AAAFx's spreads are different for demo and real account, they offers ultra tight spreads for demo account but you will not able to get this kind of tight spreads in real account.
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I look it up, their spread still very much acceptable compare to IGO =_=, i mean, really a lot.
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Cent acc mean micro or mini? Anyway there's this swissquote that contact me, are they good? it's in the genuine list though.

I just got a demo with aaafx in zulutrade, so far so good though.
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mini acc

dont know much about swissquote and their regulations
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QUOTE(shinren @ Feb 27 2017, 05:25 PM)
Cent acc mean micro or mini? Anyway there's this swissquote that contact me, are they good? it's in the genuine list though.

I just got a demo with aaafx in zulutrade, so far so good though.
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Swissquote Bank is one of the top 5 brokers in the world and we understand it's also a full operation bank where clients are given Swiss banking account.

Saxobank and Dukascopy are also top brokers who operate as banks.
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I look it up, their spread still very much acceptable compare to IGO =_=, i mean, really a lot.
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hi, can u show me the evidence of the vortex assets & VTX premium as scam ?
coz my friend have intro it to me ~ & i have check online but not much found.
please advise. TQ
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Hello LeonRayz89,

Thanks for checking with us.

We would like to know what makes you think Vortex Assets and VTX premium NOT scam?

There are few refuse to trust our judgement by requesting for evidence. We are not regulators nor inspectors. You either trust us or you believe what the scammer said. Those believe scammers, after being scammed, they usually hide somewhere and cry for nothing. Only to blame for their GREED!

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Thanks for this thread, I am very very new newbie! Totally don't know at all what you all talking about (I only know there is a "show", LOL), but at least, from here, i learned something. I will keep follow this thread. Thanks DrFx.
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Swissquote Bank is one of the top 5 brokers in the world and we understand it's also a full operation bank where clients are given Swiss banking account.

Saxobank and Dukascopy are also top brokers who operate as banks.
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Master DrFX, Did you heard about this broker Vibhs. Regulated under UK FCA. My friend invited me to invest return about 10 to 15% monthly (7/3 basis) any comments. Thanks

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Master DrFX, Did you heard about this broker Vibhs. Regulated under UK FCA. My friend invited me to invest return about 10 to 15% monthly (7/3 basis) any comments. Thanks
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Where the proof of regulation?
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I check from https://register.fca.org.uk/ShPo_FirmDetail...b000000OHJnoAAH
VIBHS Financial Ltd is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) under Firm Reference Number 613381.
Any other ways to confirmed. Tq
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Master DrFX, Did you heard about this broker Vibhs. Regulated under UK FCA. My friend invited me to invest return about 10 to 15% monthly (7/3 basis) any comments. Thanks
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Your investment has nothing to do with the broker.
the broker is just the middle man. the fund manager is who you have to check.
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Master DrFX, Did you heard about this broker Vibhs. Regulated under UK FCA. My friend invited me to invest return about 10 to 15% monthly (7/3 basis) any comments. Thanks
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Are you referring to Exia International Group ?
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Thanks for this thread, I am very very new newbie! Totally don't know at all what you all talking about (I only know there is a "show", LOL), but at least, from here, i learned something. I will keep follow this thread. Thanks DrFx.
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Master DrFX, Did you heard about this broker Vibhs. Regulated under UK FCA. My friend invited me to invest return about 10 to 15% monthly (7/3 basis) any comments. Thanks
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Pls ask them to link the account to myfxbook and from there u can view the historical performance.
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Pls ask them to link the account to myfxbook and from there u can view the historical performance.
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We doubt they have any genuine track records. Probably another IGOFX which using web portal to show investors their way of trading records.
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One way to do a copytrade. One trade will be entered into MT4 under the FM account. There will be interface communication between MT4 and the web cabinet system. The interface program will then split the one trade into numerous trades and distribute them accordingly to the FM's client.......

Why want to pump in individual trades into MT4? Waste of time and resources lah.


Just tell the IT guys and give them your requirements. They are expert in programming a system to meet your requirement.


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One way to do a copytrade.  One trade will be entered into MT4 under the FM account. There will be interface communication between MT4 and the web cabinet system. The interface program will then split the one trade into numerous trades and distribute them accordingly to the FM's client.......

Why want to pump in individual trades into MT4? Waste of time and resources lah.
Just tell the IT guys and give them your requirements. They are expert in programming a system to meet your requirement.
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Hi taka2505,

There is no such thing call waste of time and resources. That is standard market practise either by MAM or PAMM to managed accounts. Every investors must have individual live account login when they take part in copy trades or managed accounts. Web cabinet is a bonus to show the trades history but it must be sync directly from clients live trading account. If you are speaking on behalf of IGOFX, then we would like to request for your FM account view login to verify your trades are entered base on real time market price.
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Don't you think they are making copytrade more practical by internally splitting the FM's trade and distribute to the clients accordingly.

This is only my guess that the company could be using this method to overcome the impossibility of copying trades in MT4 for a few thousand clients at one time. Time is a factor.

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Don't you think they are making copytrade more practical by internally splitting the FM's trade and distribute to the clients accordingly.

This is only my guess that the company could be using this method to overcome the impossibility of copying trades in MT4 for a few thousand clients at one time. Time is a factor.
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u can summarize all this with one word "zulutrade"
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u can summarize all this with one word "zulutrade"
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Unlike zulutrade, the clients do have to enter any trade thru MT4.

MT4 trades are done by FM and FM charges 30% commission on client's monthly profits.
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QUOTE(taka2505 @ Mar 4 2017, 12:15 AM)
Unlike zulutrade, the clients do have to enter any trade thru MT4.

MT4 trades are done by FM and FM charges 30% commission on client's monthly profits.
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the clients do have to enter any trade thru MT4 based on what? signal?
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Don't you think they are making copytrade more practical by internally splitting the FM's trade and distribute to the clients accordingly.

This is only my guess that the company could be using this method to overcome the impossibility of copying trades in MT4 for a few thousand clients at one time. Time is a factor.
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Hi taka2505,

Do you have any idea what you talking about?

PAMM and MAM are also splitting the FM's trade and distribute to the clients MT4 accordingly.

MAM, PAMM and even social trading platform are capable of distributing to unlimited clients MT4 accounts in milliseconds.

We bet you are being mislead by your UPLINE that IGOFX copy trades come with such benefits where others not. IGOFX is not a genuine copy trades platform.

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Are you referring to Exia International Group ?
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Http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Danielnsh
If you. you have any suspicious please tellme. Thanks
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Does anyone knows FXprimax is a regulated Genuine Forex broker or not. My colleague invited me to invest and i am new to this. Pls anyone comment on this. Thanks
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Does anyone knows FXprimax is a regulated Genuine Forex broker or not. My colleague invited me to invest and i am new to this. Pls anyone comment on this. Thanks
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FXprimax never exist bro. FXPrimus? Any broker registered at Cyprus is potential scammer
And fxprimus is a broker not a fund manager so basically u r not investing with them
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Does anyone is RoyalFX legit ? come by few broker never heard of this , have few office around the world.
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may i know below broker is legit?
http://www.forex4you.com/en/
As they offering copytrade........because i got introduced by my friend
But i scared it is scam

Thanks


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forex expert

  may i know below broker is legit?
http://www.forex4you.com/en/
As they offering copytrade........because i got introduced by my friend
But i scared it is scam

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How much can earn per month?
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forex expert

  may i know below broker is legit?
http://www.forex4you.com/en/
As they offering copytrade........because i got introduced by my friend
But i scared it is scam

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any bucketshop that offer internal copytrade.. is a potential scammer
why would they want you to become profitable

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Does anyone is RoyalFX legit ? come by few broker never heard of this , have few office around the world.
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If you referring to RoyalForex, it's Cysec regulated. Not recommended. There are plenty of better options.

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forex expert

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http://www.forex4you.com/en/
As they offering copytrade........because i got introduced by my friend
But i scared it is scam

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Forex4you is a BVI FSC regulated broker. Highly recommended to try other copy trade or managed accounts that using top tier brokers.
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I refer to VIBHS FINANCIAL LTD from UK. I went to their agent office. They own an EA programmer to provide training for EA &
EA writing.
Http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Danielnsh
If you. you have any suspicious please tellme. Thanks
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It's a pure managed account or copy trade service through VIBHS?

If you are opening trading account and funding to the trading account with VIBHS, it's considered secure. However, there is a major concern which is the trading performance. The records are relatively short. Look for longer live trading records before make your investment decision.

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Does anyone knows FXprimax is a regulated Genuine Forex broker or not. My colleague invited me to invest and i am new to this. Pls anyone comment on this. Thanks
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It's just not good enough. Too many negative cases.
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If you referring to RoyalForex, it's Cysec regulated. Not recommended. There are plenty of better options.
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Greenpips... how to invest with you?


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is ayondo legit?

know it via the http://socialtradingguru.com/networks


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Aunty, he wants reputable PAMM managers with reputable brokers.

Since when myfxbook has reputable managers?
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Sorry , I mean the RoyalFX australia https://www.rfxt.com.au/ regulated by ASIC.
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Sorry , I mean the RoyalFX australia https://www.rfxt.com.au/ regulated by ASIC.
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Not a good broker
They charged 2% deposit fee.
Let say u deposit 100K USD, they will charge 2K USD.
https://www.rfxt.com.au/deposit-funds.php
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We are sorry for unable to recommend any PAMM manager nor copy trades. Our priority mission is to counter any potential FX fraud and provide necessary alert to innocent new investors/traders.

In order to select a good managed accounts manager or copy trades service, below are 2 basic guidelines for your reference.

1. they must be using a well regulated brokers/banks.

2. select a profitable strategies that come with at least 2-3 years trading statement/performance records. (Make sure the accounts are trading with any well regulated brokers/bank.)

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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine :thumbsup:  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. LMAX
9. FXCM
10. Saxobank
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. HY Markets
15. ADS Securities
16. FXDD
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31. Plus500
32. Pepperstone
33. Global Prime
34. FXTM
35.
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List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29. PTFX
30. Sentratama Investor
31. HotForex
32. Xtrade
33. iiinvestments
34. Exia International Group
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36.
In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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Hi guys...this post has been there since 2015. It's now 2017. I'm just wondering since I have invested in one of the listed as scam forex broker, I am just curious on how does the judgements for a listed as scam forex broker being done apart of from what was mentioned up here, when my friend were able to withdraw numerous time from the said forex trader (I regret not to invest earlier after reading numerous post on the said forex and biggest influence of course I get it by reading comments from here.) seeing what my friend has made.. I kinda blame myself for being influenced by what was posted up there..
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QUOTE(neomatrixnet @ Mar 8 2017, 02:09 PM)
Hi guys...this post has been  there since 2015. It's now 2017. I'm just wondering since I have invested in one of the listed as scam forex broker, I am just curious on how does the judgements for a listed as scam forex broker being done apart of from what was mentioned up here, when my friend were able to withdraw numerous time from the said forex trader (I regret not to invest earlier after reading numerous post on the said forex and biggest influence of course I get it by reading comments from here.) seeing what my friend has made.. I kinda blame myself for being influenced by what was posted up there..
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Hi neomatrixnet,

Please let us know which scam broker are you talking about. Those on the SCAM list 90% have stopped paying. Game over.

There is no regret staying away from scam/fraud. You never know when they will stop paying and run way with investors money. It's just the matter of time. The time is usually when most of the investors reinvest everything into the game.

You will blame yourself or your friend for life if you loss all your money on the SCAM.

There are plenty of genuine opportunity in the market.

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Hi neomatrixnet,

Please let us know which scam broker are you talking about. Those on the SCAM list 90% have stopped paying. Game over.

There is no regret staying away from scam/fraud. You never know when they will stop paying and run way with investors money. It's just the matter of time. The time is usually when most of the investors reinvest everything into the game.

You will blame yourself or your friend for life if you loss all your money on the SCAM.

There are plenty of genuine opportunity in the market.
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what about IGOFX or IGOFX2? my friend is inviting to invest in that

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what about IGOFX or IGOFX2? my friend is inviting to invest in that
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Scam, nothing more but scam.
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Hi neomatrixnet,

Please let us know which scam broker are you talking about. Those on the SCAM list 90% have stopped paying. Game over.

There is no regret staying away from scam/fraud. You never know when they will stop paying and run way with investors money. It's just the matter of time. The time is usually when most of the investors reinvest everything into the game.

You will blame yourself or your friend for life if you loss all your money on the SCAM.

There are plenty of genuine opportunity in the market.
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Hi DrFX,

Thanks for the prompt reply. I actually invested in Igofx. It was in the scam list but looks like it is still active. It's the first 2 months since I started to invest and got a decent 35 usd in return for this two months. I am just curious of why it was in the scam list when others managed to withdraw. More over I've seen some news regarding their sponsorship to soccer club and award on fast growing new investment platform 2016 Asia. So I just wanna ask clearer details on this
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hi i m newbie in forex... i juz invest in igofx and my another fren introcude invest in nordhillcapital, any 1 hear tis b4? and say verify by third party which is myfxbook... what is myfxbook actually?
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Anyonw knows about the gold trading offered by Gold Master using triumpfx broker
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Hi Jack,

We understand from Triumpfx first batch investors that the company claimed their money were hold by New Zealand government. So basically it's an excuse for them not to pay. Triumphfx also told their investors that the trades only appear on MT4 5 hours after the trades executed. Can you believe it?

After that, we found that Triumpfx has obtained a toilet paper license from Vanuatu and continue promoting by Gold Master. Anyone would like to continue the story?
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Hi DrFX,

Thanks for the prompt reply. I actually invested in Igofx. It was in the scam list but looks like it is still active. It's the first 2 months since I started to invest and got a decent 35 usd in return for this two months. I am just curious of why it was in the scam list when others managed to withdraw. More over I've seen some news regarding their sponsorship to soccer club and award on fast growing new investment platform 2016 Asia. So I just wanna ask clearer details on this
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We don't judge a scam FX by the withdrawal, sponsorship nor the worthless award.

Please check through our previous posts.

Thank you.
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hi i m newbie in forex... i juz invest in igofx and my another fren introcude invest in nordhillcapital, any 1 hear tis b4? and say verify by third party which is myfxbook... what is myfxbook actually?
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Both IGOFX and NORDHILLCAPITAL ARE SCAM. Check the regulations and licenses that these brokers are using. Basically it's toilet paper. Myfxbook verified results can be real and can be fake depending on what brokers those accounts are trading with.
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Hi Jack,

We understand from Triumpfx first batch investors that the company claimed their money were hold by New Zealand government. So basically it's an excuse for them not to pay. Triumphfx also told their investors that the trades only appear on MT4 5 hours after the trades executed. Can you believe it?

After that, we found that Triumpfx has obtained a toilet paper license from Vanuatu and continue promoting by Gold Master. Anyone would like to continue the story?
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How did you know that they told investors about the 5 hours executions?

Actually I saw something about that. hehe
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How did you know that they told investors about the 5 hours executions?

Actually I saw something about that. hehe
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We have run a test on their trades and find that non are real time. 100% manipulated.

Questioned the agents and that's the answer they received from Triumpfx.

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Hi all FX experts,

For PAMM accts, both fund manager and investors put in a lot of money so the fund manager has enough capital to earn for everyone.

What I don't get it is for those copy-trade system, the fund managers only has a few hundreds to a few thounsands as capital with no fund from investors. It makes no sense to me for these fund managers who seems to have a super high rate of winning, would want to trade such small amount.

Is my understanding wrong ?

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Hi all FX experts,

For PAMM accts, both fund manager and investors put in a lot of money so the fund manager has enough capital to earn for everyone.

What I don't get it is for those copy-trade system, the fund managers only has a few hundreds to a few thounsands as capital with no fund from investors.  It makes no sense to me for these fund managers who seems to have a super high rate of winning, would want to trade such small amount.

Is my understanding wrong ?
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they earn commission based on every winning trade
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Hi DrFX,

Thanks for the prompt reply. I actually invested in Igofx. It was in the scam list but looks like it is still active. It's the first 2 months since I started to invest and got a decent 35 usd in return for this two months. I am just curious of why it was in the scam list when others managed to withdraw. More over I've seen some news regarding their sponsorship to soccer club and award on fast growing new investment platform 2016 Asia. So I just wanna ask clearer details on this
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Ignore my name for now as i am not trolling this time.

Being able to withdraw from a broker does not really tell you if the broker is reliable or not.
1. Your profit might be little and insignificant to the broker.
2. The broker puts you into their A book, which mean they will route your orders to the liquidity providers instead of trading against you.
3. There is a reason why they are set up in such a place and not in a more reliable regulatory regions like the UK, Australia or Singapore. They might be doing some shady things, non-transparent, and so on. They are also prepared to close their shops anytime and run away with your money... when they have had enough... BURP...

Why do you want to use these shady brokers when you have regulated and better brokers? Why? (not actually asking you a question)


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QUOTE(valan @ Mar 8 2017, 10:08 PM)
Hi all FX experts,

For PAMM accts, both fund manager and investors put in a lot of money so the fund manager has enough capital to earn for everyone.

What I don't get it is for those copy-trade system, the fund managers only has a few hundreds to a few thounsands as capital with no fund from investors.  It makes no sense to me for these fund managers who seems to have a super high rate of winning, would want to trade such small amount.

Is my understanding wrong ?
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I have a system... ready to go burst anytime...high winning rate...so..
i will use other people's money to run it and make lots of commissions.
if the thing goes burst (probably in a year or two) i wont lose. In fact, i would make a nice awesome profit using other people's money.

now you know the reason why some want you to copy their trades or manage your money (PAMM/MAMM).

and when I say i have such a system, i really do have. but due to my ethics and moral i wont do that. good guy i am.
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they earn commission based on every winning trade
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And also pips rebate from the spread
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Ignore my name for now as i am not trolling this time.

Being able to withdraw from a broker does not really tell you if the broker is reliable or not.
1. Your profit might be little and insignificant to the broker.
2. The broker puts you into their A book, which mean they will route your orders to the liquidity providers instead of trading against you.
3. There is a reason why they are set up in such a place and not in a more reliable regulatory regions like the UK, Australia or Singapore. They might be doing some shady things, non-transparent, and so on. They are also prepared to close their shops anytime and run away with your money... when they have had enough... BURP...

Why do you want to use these shady brokers when you have regulated and better brokers? Why? (not actually asking you a question)
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I guess I can accept this answer better (at least with some explanations) perhaps DrFX was tired to explain over and over again hence asked me to just read back all the previous page (oh well 24 pages, doesn't take much time I guess). All I can say is I just have to gamble with the investment I did for just a little while coz if I were to withdraw all, then I just made 50 cents since all the gain will need to offset the withdrawal rate which is 4.3 against 4.6 when I wanna pump in money into the trading account.

Thanks again for your explanation troller2 and not forgetting DrFX
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Hi Jack,

We understand from Triumpfx first batch investors that the company claimed their money were hold by New Zealand government. So basically it's an excuse for them not to pay. Triumphfx also told their investors that the trades only appear on MT4 5 hours after the trades executed. Can you believe it?

After that, we found that Triumpfx has obtained a toilet paper license from Vanuatu and continue promoting by Gold Master. Anyone would like to continue the story?
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when did triumphfx withold the money occurred?
Do you know the reason behind delayed posting of the trade?

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when did triumphfx withold the money occurred?
Do you know the reason behind delayed posting of the trade?
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Hi apathen,

We understand it's happened back in 2015.

The only reason is that they can create sure win trades (since they already know the market movement) to show investors how good they are.
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Hi apathen,

We understand it's happened back in 2015.

The only reason is that they can create sure win trades (since they already know the market movement) to show investors how good they are.
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i guess you mix up with another case of thriump asia global that misused their name to scam ppl.

The delayed posting of the trade result actually is to prevent some cheapskate to follow trade since they provide view only login of their master account. I think if you want to be transparent yet don't want ppl to follow trade, that is next best alternative.
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i guess you mix up with another case of  thriump asia global that misused their name to scam ppl.

The delayed posting of the trade result actually is to prevent some cheapskate to follow trade since they provide view only login of their master account. I think if you want to be transparent yet don't want ppl to follow trade, that is next best alternative.
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Hi Apathen,

So we assume that you are from Triumphfx. There is only one Triumphfx famously scammed many investors, clearly your "explaination" on delay trades are showing it's the one we are talking about.

Based on your explaination and excuse to prevent copy traders, so how do investors or anyone justify whether you are doing genuine trading? Do you have any liquidity provider statements to proof? Since you are doing STP, we are pretty sure all the trades should be sent to LP. Would you mind to show us your LP statements to prove us wrong?

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Hi Apathen,

So we assume that you are from Triumphfx. There is only one Triumphfx famously scammed many investors, clearly your "explaination" on delay trades are showing it's the one we are talking about.

Based on your explaination and excuse to prevent copy traders, so how do investors or anyone justify whether you are doing genuine trading? Do you have any liquidity provider statements to proof? Since you are doing STP, we are pretty sure all the trades should be sent to LP. Would you mind to show us your LP statements to prove us wrong?

Thank you.
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wah how can small fry like me can be from triumphfx. no i don't have those thing you ask for. you can request directly from them.

after reading all the arguments around, i did my own analysis and test out myself, so i just told you what i know.
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i guess you mix up with another case of  thriump asia global that misused their name to scam ppl.

The delayed posting of the trade result actually is to prevent some cheapskate to follow trade since they provide view only login of their master account. I think if you want to be transparent yet don't want ppl to follow trade, that is next best alternative.
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QUOTE(DrFX @ Mar 10 2017, 12:38 AM)
Hi Apathen,

So we assume that you are from Triumphfx. There is only one Triumphfx famously scammed many investors, clearly your "explaination" on delay trades are showing it's the one we are talking about.

Based on your explaination and excuse to prevent copy traders, so how do investors or anyone justify whether you are doing genuine trading? Do you have any liquidity provider statements to proof? Since you are doing STP, we are pretty sure all the trades should be sent to LP. Would you mind to show us your LP statements to prove us wrong?

Thank you.
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QUOTE(apathen @ Mar 10 2017, 12:58 AM)
wah how can small fry like me can be from triumphfx. no i don't have those thing you ask for. you can request directly from them.

after reading all the arguments around, i did my own analysis and test out myself, so i just told you what i know.
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Actually it is not delay trades.... Hehe...

It is self created trades. I have proof but i wont show it publicly.

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Actually it is not delay trades.... Hehe...

It is self created trades. I have proof but i wont show it publicly.
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wah how can small fry like me can be from triumphfx. no i don't have those thing you ask for. you can request directly from them.

after reading all the arguments around, i did my own analysis and test out myself, so i just told you what i know.
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Are you new to FX?
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Actually it is not delay trades.... Hehe...

It is self created trades. I have proof but i wont show it publicly.
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yes i also have proof but dont want to show it publicly.
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yes i also have proof but dont want to show it publicly.
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yes i also have proof but dont want to show it publicly.
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I don't believe you. And if someone challenges me about the proof, I will show. But you will get nuts.
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Are you new to FX?
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of course compare with you DrFX i'm newbie, just learn how to crawl.
so base on your sifu knowledge, what is the best way to maintain transparency yet prevent copy trade ?
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of course compare with you DrFX i'm newbie, just learn how to crawl.
so base on your sifu knowledge, what is the best way to maintain transparency yet prevent copy trade ?
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Open the account to let everyone/ investors to view at least for 1 month and get someone to authenticate it.
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How To Check Is the Forex Broker Genuine thumbsup.gif  Or Scam devil.gif

What sort of trader would not like the assistance of a broker that he can rely on? Most new traders struggle to find a genuine forex broker who is transparent and provides a great forex trading experience. There are several reasons for this, but one of the major reasons is the mindset of the traders themselves. As most new traders are lured into the forex game through a fake forex broker as an easy way to make money, they have a wrong image about the forex market and hence do not know how to get long term success. Most of us know that forex is one of the most volatile markets in the world, and due to its floating nature, the prices of the currencies cannot be predicted. But the question of how to identify weather a forex broker is genuine or not depends on several factors. You can also check the various internet websites like forexstars and other to get reviews about the various forex brokers. Here are some ways how you can check the authenticity of a forex broker.
MAKE SURE THE FOREX BROKER IS WELL REGULATED
Only trade or invest with top tier licensed brokers/banks who are under tier 1 and 2 licenses for highest protection. For example, in the event of a Swiss broker/bank bankruptcy, traders and investors are given up to CHF100k capital protection.

Tier 1 licenses under: US NFA, UK FCA, SWISS FINMA, JAPAN FSA, SINGAPORE MAS.
Tier 2 licenses under: European financial regulators, Australia ASIC, Canada IIROC.

AVOID UNREGULATED BROKERS OR OFFSHORE REGULATED BROKERS (Vanuatu, Seychelles, St. Vincent, Belize, etc)

Traders and investors can check with their corresponding regulatory agencies that check the credibility of the forex brokers. They include the National Futures Association (NFA) and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) in the United States, Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) and Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) in the United Kingdom, Australian Securities and Investment Commission (ASIC), Swiss Federal Banking Commission (SFBC) and FINMA, Bundesanstalt für Finanzdienstleistungsaufsicht (BaFIN) in Germany and Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF) in France.
Analyze the Website
We all know that in this age of peerless internet technology, coming across fake content is totally possible and one must first check the website first for a clear picture of the reviews. Some websites are meant not for the viewers but an organization’s attempt at getting more affiliates. In such cases you have to judge for yourself whether the reviews are real or are posted through automated software to get more viewers.

Check the Comment Box
Some sites are highly moderated along with the viewer’s comments that appear on the website due to the fear of spam. If a website allows regular users to comment on their posts that is a great sign of openness. But if your comment doesn’t appear immediately on the website and is stuck in the moderation phase forever, you certainly do not want to waste a lot of time reading your reviews on such a website. Several times unanswered comment boxes also indicate the website’s poor activity.

Only Promote Genuine Reviews
There are several websites that post a review and also refer the viewer to a broker’s website as several broker’s pay the sites to promote themselves. While there is nothing wrong in referrals, the viewers must also use their full discretion when it comes to judging whether the reviews are genuine or not. Try to avoid websites that also provide a referral link in a review that also redirects the user to the broker’s webpage.

Transparency Is A Must
The best way to know whether your forex broker is a fake one or not, is to look for his list of clients. While several fake brokers might tell you that it is against the law to disclose such information, the reality is the total opposite and no genuine broker would be afraid to share the list of his clients. Genuine brokers use their network of traders more as their work portfolio and you can always judge the authenticity of a broker through the profiles of the various clients and traders that he deals with. More transparency in a broker’s activities will instill more faith in the clients.

Look At How The Broker Works
While this would be like judging a book from its cover, forex brokers can be judged based on how they deal with their clients. If the forex broker holds each client’s funds in a segregated account approved by the traders, then it is quiet likely that you’re working with a genuine broker. Make sure that the broker has a valid proof of operating under a government regulation.

Check the Broker’s Portfolio
After you have checked how the broker works and the long list of his client’s, you still need to see if the clients are earning regular profits or not. Doing a short background check on how the various traders are performing with a particular broker is one of the best ways to know a broker’s authenticity. Forex is a highly fluctuating market and to ensure profits one requires having a really keen eye and a really honest forex broker.

Forex trading is a risky business and requires a lot of experience and skills, to earn profits over a long term period. Hence it is highly important that the new traders must check the genuineness of a broker to experience a non-stressful forex trading environment.

List of Genuine Forex Brokers
1. Forex.com (Gain Capital)
2. FXpro
3. Swissquote Bank
4. Oanda
5. Interactive Brokers
6. Dukascopy
7. City Index
8. LMAX
9. FXCM
10. Saxobank
11. Admiral Markets
12. ThinkMarkets
13. EasyForex
14. HY Markets
15. ADS Securities
16. FXDD
17. ATC Brokers
18. LCG
19. ActivTrades
20. IC Markets
21. Synergy FX
22. IG
23. CMS Forex
24. AxiTrader
25. Aetos
26. XM
27. Tickmill
28. AVATRADE
29. Exness
30. eToro
31. Plus500
32. Pepperstone
33. Global Prime
34. FXTM
35.
36.

List of SCAM Forex Brokers !ALERT!
1. LiteForex
2. GSM Financial Group
3. RCFX
4. Maxim Trader
5. ODFX
6. TriumphFX
7. WFX
8. Eu Trading Group EUTG (NewTradeFX)
9. IBS
10. FXUnited
11. YouTradeFX (EUTG)
12. UFXMarkets
13. GVF
14. TP Eagles
15. Efzinitus
16. IGOFX
17. Vortex Assets and VFX Premium (Eu Trading Group)
18. KBFX
19. JJPTR
20. SFX Markets
21. FXMAC
22. Nordhill Capital
23. Otex World
24. ikoFX
25. FXcoliseum
26. FXCitizen
27. Capital Foster Advisor
28. IIB International Broker
29. PTFX
30. Sentratama Investor
31. HotForex
32. Xtrade
33. iiinvestments
34. Exia International Group
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36.
In case you have invested or trading with any of the scam brokers above, try your very best to withdraw your money back ASAP. If you can't take out your money, file a report or complaint to your local regulator. In most cases, it does not help as scam brokers do not hold any licenses and end up regulators unable to trace them.

Feel free to share your experiences with any other brokers and allow us to add on to above lists.

Based on all the information we provided, i hope it helps new FX investors or traders to differentiate and identify real/scam FX.

We welcome everyone who required due diligence or advise to check the genuineness of a FX brokers. After all, it's FOC. icon_question.gif

Moderator, please do not move this topic to join with general Forex spread as it will served as a WARNING to those new to Forex. Thank you.
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kbfx is not a scam lol
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Open the account to let everyone/ investors to view at least for 1 month and get someone to authenticate it.
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In fact, 1 month is too short, make it minimum 3 months.
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of course compare with you DrFX i'm newbie, just learn how to crawl.
so base on your sifu knowledge, what is the best way to maintain transparency yet prevent copy trade ?
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1. Trade with well regulated brokers or get a top tier license hmm.gif Pretty hard right for a scam?
2. Provide investors with liquidity provider statements (Top regulated brokers/banks). thumbsup.gif Possible unless it's a scam.
3. Hide view only password (Daily and monthly statements are enough) as long as fulfilling number 1 requirement.
4. Setup clients account on myfxbook for monitoring. (Only if you are fulfilling 1 and 3)
5. Run a well regulated hedge fund with audited factsheet and reports.


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kbfx is not a scam lol
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Guess you are part of kbfx. Tell us why kbfx is not a scam?

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