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 How To Check Your Forex Broker Is Genuine Or Scam, Real FX Broker VS Scam FX Broker

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zulutrader
post Jan 13 2017, 02:48 AM

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look like drfx know everything but for me nothing special...
i'm trader for 9 years exp.

1. fxcoliseum is not a broker .. hanya tempat copy trade antara broker. so dia bukannya scam sebab bukannya broker.

2. broker kebanyakkan yang list dalam scam adalah malaysia base company seperti mocaz igofx premierfx essencefx dan sebagainya adalah local broker. local broker susah untuk dapat regulated dagi negara luar. iadisebabkan banyak halangan seperti mahukan jumlah wang yang besar seperti new zealand perlukan 1 million nzd untuk regulation dari nfz... apakan lagi regulation dari negara europe yang lain.

3. ya memang benar company2 yang ada regulation dari europe uk atau australia adalah yang terbaik tapi hanya broker2 base europe senang dapat sebab mereka mempunyai client yang ramai dan companynya besar dan mempunyai investor untuk company dengan jumlah yang besar. tidak bermakna broker yang kecil kecil ialah broker scam disebabkan mereka tidak ada fund yang besar untuk dapatkan regulation dari negara luar.

4. walaupun broker kecil dari malaysia tapi mereka menjalankan pernigaan dengan baik. mereka bayar semua withdrawal walaupun besar sebabnya credit usd yang withdraw tadi akan di beli oleh trader yang lain atau fund yang broker bayar mampu untuk bayar trader.

5. xm juga retail broker dimana keuntungan diambil dari lost trader buaknnya dari spread. kalau tidak tahu apa itu retail broker sila google. retail broker kita dapat lihat dengan bonus yang tinggi diaman sekiranya akaun negative broker tidak rugi dan trader juga tidak rugi. trade hanya di server broker bukannya di liquidity provider. broker mampu membayar komisyen yang besar kepada ibnya di malaysia.

6. sebenarnya regulated broker dengan badan badan besar tidak membenarkan adanya local depositor maka exness xm insta dan broker2 yang genuine broker yang dilistkan diatas yang ada local depositor diamalaysia adalah tidak regulated atau pun regulated dengan badan2 kecil. local depositor hanyalah untuk memudahkan trader untuk membuat deposit ke broker. ianya perantaraan antara trader dan broker.

sekiranya tiada local depositor duit mesti melalui tt atau credit card yang memberi masalah kepada trader pada satu masa nanti. sebab ianya dibawah amla apabila duit keluar masuk luar negara terlalu banyak. sekiranya trader withdraw 100k usd melalui tt adalah ianya lepas? adakah selamat? saya ada kawan akaun banknya dipaksa close oleh standard charted bank sebab kes withdraw dari oeversea (TT) dengan acap kali.

mengenai igofx... akaun fund manager itu legit dan betul... saya sudah lihat tradenya dgn menggunakan broker yang drfx guna xm... cuma money management dan pips yang diambilnya sedikit2 pada setiap kali trade. sebab tu emosi dan money management adalah penting untuk consistant trading yang tidak ada kepada 95% trader seluruh dunia.

banyak saya ingin cakapkan disini tapi walau banyak mana saya cakap banyak juga argue daripada drfx.

dalam setandan kelapa tak semuanya elok dan tak semuanya tak elok. broker dimalaysia di terlalu banyak...9 tahun dulu marketiva yan gpaling popular dan sekarang bertambah banyak dan ada yang mengambil kesempatan untuk scam menggunakan jenama forex.

yang real forex ini pula yang busuk namanya.
jangan trade di forex yang menawarkan fix ROI iatulah scam seperti fxunited GWG jjptr dan sebagainya. copy trade tak salah. banyak copytrade yang ada di broker kamu pilihlah yang mana satu yang kamu suka.

95% lost dalam forex trading... trading is high risk.. so follow trader yang 5% yang consistent win.


zulutrader
post Jan 13 2017, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 13 2017, 08:16 AM)
You are infomative like wikipedia , but also brainless like wikipedia. Why, because you don't know to analyze the information. You keep focusing on the unimportant and insignificant logic and reasons, but do not question on the primary point.

You emphasized that unregulated broker is not a problem because they just not enough fund to register becomes regulated broker, and furthermore as long as they allow you withdraw, people should trust these brokers. I would say the logic you gave have severe problems and misleading public.

You purposely do not want to highlight the most impotant point such as "what happen if a forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . This is a headshot to die problem of investor regardless the trading skill.

One more point you gave is people should have good trading skill, the skill is more important than selection of brokers. Such illusion that purposely let people feel broker selection is not so important. In the real fact, good broker selection with good trading skill can get mush more benefit. It is not the way you say that just need to solely stress on good skill, but no need care about broker.

As you had said, you have 9 years experience. I would say you are informative, because you know a lot information. But, sorry to say..., you are brainless, because did not analysis on the logic of information you gained. Probably, your 9 years experience are built on "repeat and forward", receive the information from source and repeat/forward to your audiences without analyze the logic with your own brain.
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you have option to trade or not to trade... forex is risky... dari pemilihan broker hingga you trade....you trade also chances untuk loss pun tinggi...
i know broker unregulated lagi tinggi untuk scam tapi so far as i know malaysia broker yang scam adalah intelfx... yang lainnya adalah genuine ... they paid all trader yang request withdraw.

kecuali some mlm people jadikan forex broker sebagai money game seperti gwgfx fxunited dan sebagainya... avoid broker yang bagi fix roi....

how much money you trade for living? saya yakin kamu trade tak lebih pun 10k usd starting capital. dan saya yakin kamu bukannya consistent trader. trader bukannya kaya yang kaya adalah broker (retail broker) dan introducing broker dan trader yang buat training class dan jual ebook.

selalunya trader yang bising pasal regulated atau unregulated broker ni adalah trader sampah trade kecil kecil dan bukannya full time trader. attention seeker untuk tunjuk dia tau semuanya dan avoid this avoid that tapi trade kelaut.

compare semua chart yang you kata broker scam broker tu dengan regulated broker... chart price semua sama... kalau lari pun 3-5 pips sahaja sebab different liquidity provider. rules semua sama. come on.... trade consistent profit 1st before you judge the broker. scammer terbesar dalam forex adalah yourself emosi dan teknik...

broker kecil tak close sebab dia tahu more 95% trader akan lost. trade kat mana mana broker regulated pun >95% lost... they have money to pay <5% winning. even you deposit 100k usd you can lost in forex sebab the biggest scammer ialah yourself.

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post Jan 13 2017, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Jan 13 2017, 12:53 PM)
You are greatly correct. I am brainless after I read though the posts. That is why I have question.

Forgive my brainless question, because I am really brainless and that is why I wish to ask :

"what happen if an unregulated forex broker closed the shop and run away, what is the warranty on that? " . <-- repeated question from previous post.

If I am brain-ful, I won't have any question to ask, because perfect. But I am not perfect, in fact. So forgive my brainless and lack of knowledge, I wish to seek the understanding by asking the above question. Maybe you can replace zulutrader to give us an answer, seem like his is not able to answer that.  biggrin.gif
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did you know about black swan??? when ucf unpax their currency?? regulated broker almost close their shop... do you think their trader will get back their money?

think about that 1st....
zulutrader
post Jan 13 2017, 03:48 PM

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in my 9 years experience... loser trader will complaint most rather than profitable trader... honestly...

>95% loser trader can cover <5% winning trader.. thats market maker broker... you should research type of broker 1st before you research about regulated broker...

nak trade usd 100-1000 usd tapi cari regulated broker 1st tie... LOL... leverage pun paling tinggi 1:200 memang mampus lah akaun tu....

make your \trading skill perfect 1st before thinking regulated broker...

atas kertas je tulis money back guaranty... when tsunami come... no one thinking of you...believe me.... you got 100kusd to invest not to invest in 1 broker... dont put all egg in 1 basket... event regulated broker it wont guarantee your money safe. please do more research at forexfactory forum...

orang malaysia ni banyak bunyi chinese ka malay ke india ka sama je...

end here and hope kamu semua akan jadi fulltime trader seperti saya. tarde not for rich but for living.
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post Feb 7 2017, 06:22 PM

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fxcm very wellknown broker... and then today "FXCM and CEO Drew Niv kicked out US Forex market, fined $7 million for defrauding customers"

http://www.leaprate.com/2017/02/fxcm-and-c...ding-customers/

see.... all regulated broker also tak boleh percaya...

jangan letak 2 telur tu dalam 1 bakul... letak telur tu dalam 2 bakul ok.
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post Feb 7 2017, 06:43 PM

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Saxo Bank is a retail foreign exchange trading bank. The idea of forex trading as a retail product is mildly offensive any way. [I simply can't see how you can make money doing this in any consistent manner.]

However the (a) lack of systems and (b) depth of the scam is revealed by Saxo's statement after the giant Swiss Franc move today. To quote:

“Due to today’s exceptional market movement in CHF crosses, we have been filling client orders and positions in an extremely illiquid market. Once we are better able to establish true market liquidity, all executed fills will be revisited, and will be revised and amended to more accurate levels. This may result in a worse execution rate than the originally filled level.”

It is of course garbage of the highest order that in the biggest currency movement of recent times there pertained an "extremely illiquid market". If Saxo quoted the wrong price the problem is Saxo's systems.

Instead Saxo is just stealing from its clients. It did a deal and they traded at a rate - and they are rewriting that deal to suit them.

Theft is the right word.

Any regulator that lets Saxo Bank do this is failing it core functions.

Saxo bank's licenses should be revoked.

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Saxo Bank (an investment bank 'regulated' in the EU) was allowed to re-quote their entire client base that traded CHF pairs SNBomb 15 Jan 2015. That is the ONLY reason they are still alive today.

All these distractions about reducing leverage, negative balance protection, etc do not actually promote transparency. TRANSPARENCY and forcing the broker to prove no (or show conflict of interests) is what will allow this industry to move forward. Gain Capital apparently has been more forthcoming with the fact that they are technically a bucket shop, so they are still standing.


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post Feb 7 2017, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 06:47 PM)
Are you sure above issues won't happened on unregulated or offshore brokers?  brows.gif
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yes its happen.. so regulated or not it dont matter for me... asalkan profit saya berbayar. dont judge any broker hanya kerana tak regulated atau regulated...
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post Feb 7 2017, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 07:05 PM)
So what if you don't get any payment in a sudden? What should you do?
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its ok for me... all profit account... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif if my starter balance what should i do?? please go to forexfactory...forexpeacearmy myfxbook forum dan sebagainya...even regulated broker also tak bayar withdrawal trader dengan macam2 reason. pergi la tengok..exness ada fxprimus ada xm ada insta ada.. semua ada kes tak bayar withdrawal dgn macam2 alasan...

so regulated adalah alasan untuk gain customer confident sahaja bagi saya.

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post Feb 7 2017, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 07:37 PM)
I see. Please don't mislead people. It's very irresponsible just because you think offshore unregulated is ok for yourself. Profit account ok, then if account without profit? If you trade yourself with few hundred US dollars, nobody care since it's small amount but when investors invest with few thousand to hundred thousand, that's our concern.

You are here probably because you are operating an offshore FX broker for Malay markets. We understand your points come from where.
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you are wrong ... i'm trader i bukan owner broker ... sekarang you dah tak ada idea so you just pointing me sebagai owner broker? u r wrong man... i ada account di instafx.. fxprimus exness xm mocaz fbs dan beberapa broker lagi...

i bukan mislead people... but i'm sharing my experience dalam forex in malaysia culture... malaysia dia mahukan local depositor senang deposit dan withdrawal within 24 hours daripada guna telegraphic transfer ambil masa 3 hari bekerja dan risk money laundring sebab duit masuk dari luar negara lagi risk berbanding duit yang bertukar tangan dari dalam negara.

yang menarik saya nak komen disini bila fxcoleseum dalam list kamu yang kamu katakan broker forex rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif ..fxcoliseum adalah tempat copytrade...ini menunjukan kamu bukan kaji betul2 sebelum taruk dalam list...kamu just assume ini regulated ini tidak walau pun ia bukan broker. bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

siapa di malaysia ni fund hundred thounsand in 1 broker??? you are in risk.. so pecahkan dua atau 3 akaun di 3 broker berlainan.. tapi kamu jangan kata unregulated broker itu broker tipu... ia mungkin genuine business tapi local business yang susah untuk dapatkan regulated dari us euro atau mana2 regulation body yang ketat.


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post Feb 7 2017, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Feb 7 2017, 08:03 PM)
By the way, we never have any issues on sending and receiving money from regulated brokers/bank even the amount is 6 figures and above.
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are you serius? even from your local bank???BNM? stan chart ask my friend to withdraw all money and close acc because to many transaction from oversea and its come from forex... as u know individual forex trading is illegal in malaysia even u trade guna regulated broker.

paling tinggi saya withdraw adalam 4k usd dari fxprimus
QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 18 2016, 04:01 PM)
Hi Alissa,

FXPrimus used to be a FX broker with plenty of bad slippages. Since their Mauritius license suspended, they have obtained Cyprus CySEC FX license and operate as an European entity. Due to their bad records, we do not list them on genuine FX brokers.

Personally i won't pick them as my FX broker since there are plenty of choices out there.
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via Telegraphic transfer nad they paid... even u tak list dalam genuine broker tapi dia paid melalui TT...

since you sending and receiving thru international bank... local bank and BNM can track untuk apa dan tujuan apa duit itu digunakan... so kebarangkalian untuk dipanggil ke BNM for investigation purpose lagi besar. you so lucky withdraw 6 figure and safe...if not 1st local bank call you asking about this money and documentation.

i assume you not experience yet on this issue.....
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post Feb 8 2017, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(cmk96 @ Feb 7 2017, 11:20 PM)
Zulutrader... if you are worried on withdrawal into local bank... how you intend to make big profit in forex?

I received few times 6-figures from UK and Cyprus... no issue la.
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its up to you... if u kena .. please remember me ok.. i just warn you before you make mistake. im not like you... i'm trade for living not for rich... just aim 1k usd-3k usd permonth or 20%-40% from my capital already enough for living. i withdraw using local depositor not money from oversea.

good luck to all of you.

forex is ricky from deposit until withdrawal. in the middle of deposit and withdrawal only 5% win. hope 5% including all of you.

 

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