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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V69, 69 :3

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carcraze66
post Dec 23 2015, 09:20 PM

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ehh guys wanna ask ahh, recently i found out my gaga has very bad vibration during idling like stopping at trafficlight or parked with engine on. ohmy.gif

i notice my steering has unusual vibrating which should not be happening on 2yrs old car with less than 20k mileage sweat.gif , i went to check under the hood, engine no shaking but air filter shake 99...

anyone experience before? isit due to engine mounting? or transmission mounting?

tenkiusss notworthy.gif

*ok i just saw that someone was asking when to change engine mounting liao previously, but just wanna ask, is engine mounting covered under plotong warranty? unsure.gif *

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post Dec 23 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 23 2015, 09:19 PM)
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 23 2015, 09:20 PM)
ehh guys wanna ask ahh, recently i found out my gaga has very bad vibration during idling like stopping at trafficlight or parked with engine on. ohmy.gif

i notice my steering has unusual vibrating which should not be happening on 2yrs old car with less than 20k mileage sweat.gif , i went to check under the hood, engine no shaking but air filter shake 99...

anyone experience before? isit due to engine mounting? or transmission mounting?

tenkiusss  notworthy.gif

*ok i just saw that someone was asking when to change engine mounting liao previously, but just wanna ask, is engine mounting covered under plotong warranty?  unsure.gif *
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send in for warranty claim? But then sudah 2 years... don't think is covered... but never try never know

On the contrary, the certain batch of the side mountings for FLX are known to fail prematurely.
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:53 PM

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Just now my engine auto shut down during idling , start again and it auto shut down again . Tried few times still same behavior, finally notice that engine temperature rise to 5 bar. Air cond also has louder noise when the gas is flow through the expansion valve.

My car down on road tonight with bonnet open , after inspection discover the connector of radiator fan was disconnected. Check engine coolant condition was ok no smoke no smell ,reconnect the fan connector and let it idle for few minute. Temperature bar drop back to 3 bar then I drive back to home. I suspected previously the foreman disconnect the connector and forget to plug back this afternoon.

I was drive my car for about 15km mix of city and and highway including traffic jam at night.. Should I inspect any component or others that may cause potential problem in future? My car is AT 4 speed.

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post Dec 23 2015, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 23 2015, 09:31 PM)
send in for warranty claim? But then sudah 2 years... don't think is covered... but never try never know

On the contrary, the certain batch of the side mountings for FLX are known to fail prematurely.
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hmmm but warranty is 3 years as informed by SA last week during my service haha

but one thing i dont know whether engine mounting is covered under warranty sweat.gif

how much is the cost of replacing engine mounting ya? ohmy.gif


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post Dec 23 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(cain11 @ Dec 23 2015, 09:53 PM)
Just now my engine auto shut down during idling ,  start again and it auto shut down again . Tried few times still same behavior, finally notice that engine temperature rise to 5 bar. Air cond also has louder noise when the gas is flow through the expansion valve.

My car down on road tonight with bonnet open , after inspection discover the connector of radiator fan was disconnected. Check engine coolant condition was ok no smoke no smell ,reconnect the fan connector and let it idle for few minute. Temperature bar drop back to 3 bar then I drive back to home. I suspected previously the foreman disconnect the connector and forget to plug back this afternoon.

I was drive my car for about 15km mix of city and and highway including traffic jam at night..  Should I inspect any component or others that may cause potential problem in future? My car is AT 4 speed.
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afaik if the fan was disconnected that means the foreman forgot to plug it back and thats what causes the issue probably?
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post Dec 23 2015, 11:18 PM

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Any place to buy topup paint (fire red) ? My door got dent and some paint chipped.
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QUOTE(n3w @ Dec 23 2015, 09:15 PM)
How much if nak buat?
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1.6 conrod and crankshaft easily fetch 1.5k lol other cos upah turun yinjin and oberhol. most campro bengkel quote me about 2.5k to 3.1k depends lah u want 1.6 piston or not. 1.3 piston high compression one other items like ecu toto body feul rail i dunno need to change or not
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post Dec 24 2015, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 23 2015, 10:44 PM)
hmmm but warranty is 3 years as informed by SA last week during my service haha

but one thing i dont know whether engine mounting is covered under warranty  sweat.gif

how much is the cost of replacing engine mounting ya?  ohmy.gif
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Engine mounting is covered under warranty. I got mine changed under warranty (mounting driver side, next to abs module) on the last 2 days before warranty ends.
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post Dec 24 2015, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Dec 23 2015, 11:59 PM)
1.6 conrod and crankshaft easily fetch 1.5k lol other cos upah turun yinjin and oberhol. most campro bengkel quote me about 2.5k to 3.1k depends lah u want 1.6 piston or not. 1.3 piston high compression one other items like ecu toto body feul rail i dunno need to change or not
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3k? Then I rela do suspension first. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2015, 01:03 AM

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Any CVT owner here notice krok krok krok sound during stop and go from engine? Sometime louder if put in N then weaker if put in D with foot on brake. I asked proton mechanic, he said is the sound of CVT pump. If put N, means no load, so the pump run loose, if put D, there is load, hence the noise not so loud. Isit the case?
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post Dec 24 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Dec 23 2015, 11:59 PM)
1.6 conrod and crankshaft easily fetch 1.5k lol other cos upah turun yinjin and oberhol. most campro bengkel quote me about 2.5k to 3.1k depends lah u want 1.6 piston or not. 1.3 piston high compression one other items like ecu toto body feul rail i dunno need to change or not
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Ecu will calibrate itself, no need to to change. Injector, throttle body all no need to change.

So basically crankshaft and conrod only.
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post Dec 24 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Dec 23 2015, 11:18 PM)
Any place to buy topup paint (fire red) ? My door got dent and some paint chipped.
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Did you means this one
http://kereta.info/car-scratches-touch-up-paint-repair/
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post Dec 24 2015, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 23 2015, 10:45 PM)
afaik if the fan was disconnected that means the foreman forgot to plug it back and thats what causes the issue probably?
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I also don't know. Just hope after the engine overheat, nothing damage or degrade. Anyway anything to inspect?
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post Dec 24 2015, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Dec 24 2015, 12:01 AM)
Engine mounting is covered under warranty. I got mine changed under warranty (mounting driver side, next to abs module) on the last 2 days before warranty ends.
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Oh glad to hear that haha gonna go get mine changed under warranty after xmas haha

Btw urs same issue with mine? Steering vibrating during idling?
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post Dec 24 2015, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(carcraze66 @ Dec 24 2015, 10:06 AM)
Oh glad to hear that haha gonna go get mine changed under warranty after xmas haha

Btw urs same issue with mine? Steering vibrating during idling?
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Yea, steering vibrate during idling. Worst is during cold start in the morning. As if you can use the steering as your hand vibrator to wake you up before you start your journey...

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post Dec 24 2015, 12:16 PM

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Just got my aircond hose and gas refilled for free yesterday. car is still under warranty.
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post Dec 24 2015, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(cain11 @ Dec 24 2015, 08:18 AM)
Ya something like that. Have you use this?
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QUOTE(cain11 @ Dec 23 2015, 09:53 PM)
Just now my engine auto shut down during idling ,  start again and it auto shut down again . Tried few times still same behavior, finally notice that engine temperature rise to 5 bar. Air cond also has louder noise when the gas is flow through the expansion valve.

My car down on road tonight with bonnet open , after inspection discover the connector of radiator fan was disconnected. Check engine coolant condition was ok no smoke no smell ,reconnect the fan connector and let it idle for few minute. Temperature bar drop back to 3 bar then I drive back to home. I suspected previously the foreman disconnect the connector and forget to plug back this afternoon.

I was drive my car for about 15km mix of city and and highway including traffic jam at night..  Should I inspect any component or others that may cause potential problem in future? My car is AT 4 speed.
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When the temperature high until engine shut down, it means the over heating already caused your air fuel mixture inefficient to burn anymore. There's a chance that your gasket already fried. There's nothing much you can troubleshoot or do, but you can continue to monitor and hope things is fine.

1) Monitor your engine oil color on weekly basis. Make sure the color stays BLACK. Should you see the color become NESCAFE AIS or KOPI BENG from restaurant, means your head gasket already fried.

2) Monitor your engine oil LEVEL on weekly basis. Make sure the oil level stays the same atleast for the next 2 months / 5000km. If you notice oil level decreasing on weekly basis, on a hot afternoon whilst your engine is in working temperature, get someone help you step on the gas pedal to simulate a 4krpm revs, you yourself go to the back of the car and monitor your ekzos see if got white smoke kamout. If yes, meaning piston ring sudah koyak. Again, nothing much you can do but continue to drive the car and top up engine oil. Until you have budget of 2.5k, then send the car for full overhaul, may be can consider 1 shot kasi stroke up 1.6 brows.gif

3) If item no.2 detected engine oil consistently decreasing yet no white smoke, there may be engine oil leak. If you can see it drip on the floor, that's not too horrible. Could be crankshaft oil seal, camshaft oil seal. All these can be changed externally without going through major surgery. However, if you can't see oil drip on the floor and engine oil consistently decreasing and no white smoke.... bugger your engine is beyond item no.1 damage. In the morning before warm up engine, start it and open radiator cap to see the coolant change color from whatever it is originally(green/red/brown/rusty orange), to slowly turn white. This means engine oil goes into your coolant.

If none of the above happen to you for the next 2 months, congratulations you just saved yourself from a major overhaul that may cost you 2.5k. nod.gif

Good luck
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post Dec 24 2015, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Dec 24 2015, 12:18 PM)
Ya something like that. Have you use this?
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4years ago, I bought the 'solid white' for Proton and applied on my scratch area. But the color a bit out from my original paint which cause quite ugly. Finally I send for re paint at workshop.
Is ok to try since one bottle still cheap, if everything ok u can keep it for future use.


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