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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V69, 69 :3

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davidke20
post Nov 19 2015, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 19 2015, 06:21 PM)
Bikin bising again I gonna lock the thread for a month

U TAK SUKA U KELUAR
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Let's just work this out. We'll respect your decision.
davidke20
post Nov 21 2015, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 19 2015, 11:51 PM)
unkerrr wan muffler right? im at terengganu now this sunday come back klang balik . pm me ya if wan to collect muffler hehe
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davidke20
post Nov 21 2015, 09:37 AM

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Then make S91 please notworthy.gif
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post Nov 21 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(justin_91 @ Nov 21 2015, 01:57 PM)
Hi guys.. newbie here rolleyes.gif glad that thread has reopen, has been following saga thread all the while rclxms.gif
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The 2 of you can meet in Melaka whistling.gif

QUOTE(n3w @ Nov 21 2015, 03:33 PM)
Dont stalk ni... show yourself at TT meet. brows.gif
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p/s: Will be in Melaka on 6 & 7th December. TT anyone? Bazinga!?

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davidke20
post Nov 22 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(FerozFLX @ Nov 22 2015, 10:44 AM)
Lg bgus make s69 huehuehue
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davidke20
post Nov 22 2015, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Nov 22 2015, 07:35 PM)
Alza offset berape ya? 15 also right. Wana let go cheap cheap tak brows.gif
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drool.gif then your rim up for sale izit drool.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 23 2015, 06:35 PM)
got it but u need to see.the cond first whether is okay or not byk rust lah but dalam shud be okay i think
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post Nov 23 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(FerozFLX @ Nov 23 2015, 07:08 AM)
Yea.. Im going to let go my sport Rim.. U interest bos?? Hehe tongue.gif
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I was hoping he take your darn rim, so his current rim will be up for sale whistling.gif

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post Nov 23 2015, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Nov 23 2015, 10:22 PM)
I prefer your blm on 'hongda shitty' rims last time. Looks so good on your car  laugh.gif
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You mean this 1? whistling.gif Well, technically, it's a practical rim. Very good fuel consumption due to light unsprung weight. Particularly can feel it when regain speed(like after slowing down for traffic and the front car moved away then repickup speed again without dropping gear). The rest, you need to ask drfeelgood liao. The rim wasn't with me long enough to demonstrate its ability.

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On my car, it was because of 165/55R15 tayar, otherwise I wouldn't think it looks any better. My BLM is just an ordinary stock BLM with damaged IAFM whistling.gif

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If given a chance, I would have taken back my Hongda Pullut rim instead cry.gif

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Sadly, I got no extra rim that point of time selling the car to PKGreat. So, now he got the car and many goodies all together with 1 drop dead diva price unsure.gif
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post Nov 24 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 24 2015, 08:17 AM)
i free after office hour tp mesti jam punya maa btw where to meet? im at bukit tinggi klang.
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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 24 2015, 08:17 AM)
i free after office hour tp mesti jam punya maa btw where to meet? im at bukit tinggi klang.
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aku boley datang

QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 24 2015, 08:17 AM)
i free after office hour tp mesti jam punya maa btw where to meet? im at bukit tinggi klang.
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cari hang kot. kat area mana tu? or do you kam to TT? Otherwise we can organize an ekzos passing around TT icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 24 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 24 2015, 11:05 AM)
I'm boy boy leh wet as in air liuh kah
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Your OBD display can plonk GaGa BLM anot ar? Look very the fancy wub.gif
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post Nov 24 2015, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(TradingHouse @ Nov 24 2015, 05:02 PM)
Guys,

my blm wheel cover plastic all brittle already, plan to take all the cover off and let the steel wheel expose.

but the front wheel centre bit is truely expose. Are there any rim cap thingy that can just cover the centre bit?
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Lemme know if u found 1. ayam oso scratching head where to find this doh.gif
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post Nov 25 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(justin_91 @ Nov 25 2015, 11:13 AM)
night time? should be ok.
budak kampung blush.gif stay at gangsa heights / tmn enggang
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None of your guys Muslim right? n3w Bazinga! See yall at Geographer 6/12/2015. Will be driving this

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post Nov 25 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Nov 25 2015, 12:59 PM)
FSB
RSB
ARB
Grounding cable
1.6 stroker kit
Bigger throttle body
Buy vios
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Straight to the point. No need all the above except the last row whistling.gif

QUOTE(lOrDjAbU @ Nov 25 2015, 01:10 PM)
Wow so many things I got to Google! 😂
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Dun belib him.

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post Nov 26 2015, 06:02 AM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Nov 25 2015, 10:03 PM)
Anyway, so many years already, anyone figure our how come BLM MT fc so high or any method to reduce it fc???haha
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I thought you posted some 500km distance on 28litre consumption by driving 160kph on your saga few years back? To me that's pretty darn good ady. haha
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post Nov 26 2015, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 26 2015, 08:08 AM)
sorry kacau weh got tt kah? ingat u mau urgent if want then come collect from me unker if not then wait tt but cannot confirm can come or not
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Wait for TT then. Can't be that urgent to that extend laugh.gif
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post Nov 26 2015, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Nov 26 2015, 08:39 PM)
Got benefit tak bro? Pickup more cun?
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Horse powah tarak inkris. Torque curve been moved forward abit, but initial response become worst. The thing like when you quickly japed on the gas pedal, you hear a giant suction sound from the air filter, but the car lag for a FULL second before engine went VROOM. After change to big toto, the suction sound no doubt become louder, but the lag(SERIOUSLY) felt like need to wait 1.5 seconds before engine ROAR doh.gif Overall, if you're not too much stuck in super jam like me everyday LDP, you wouldn't hate that. In fact, probably gonna enjoy it as the sweet spot of torque has been moved forward(to lower rpm). Mid range feels a lot of difference.

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post Nov 26 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Nov 26 2015, 09:18 PM)
Thanks David. I didn't know what to expect. Just jumped the gun as I found a nice price for it. Hopefully the lag isn't too much.   sweat.gif
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Don't worry about it. As soon as you modded it, you'll get angry for awhile. But obviously later you'll adapt to the slow reponse and get over it. Still remember the 1st day you took the car out from the showroom, when you hit the gas pedal and you cursed the dog pooped over the fan and spilled everywhere? Why is it so damn slow in toto response?! That's exactly what you're going to get.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 26 2015, 09:20 PM)
korek

anda won oreo cookie.

combined with the (occasional) slow operating clutch of the CVT is worst. LOL
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Wanna know why I know about it? whistling.gif Oh btw, ayam now hoping to find if there's a 1.0 version of kampro totobodi to fit my GaGa, and hopefully there's some lost soul would bai a 1.6 totobodi and sell off their 1.3 totobodi cheap to me laugh.gif

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post Nov 27 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 27 2015, 07:59 AM)
there are a few 1.3 saga with 1.6 totobodi and one of them is quite close to you. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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Your answer pretty close, and I know the close person just sit 1 row infront of my desk. But the most correct answer lies below laugh.gif

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Nov 27 2015, 03:51 PM)
Here's a reference of a 1.3 (lightly ported and fully polished) Throttle body and a 1.6 (Ported and semi polished) Throttle body. The 1.6 TB can be ported to a maximum of 67mm if I still remember the figures correctly. Also on the side of the TB where the black plastic cover, you can open it up and clean the contact grid and do some minor adjustment to butterfly valve. The adjustment is similar to adjusting the pedal copper contact grid. I won't recommend those who are new to DIY open the plastic cover.
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Just some extra information, CPS Throttle body is different from IAFM+ so are they compatible to our non CPS engine...this I'm not sure but Persona TB will fit our saga without any issue.

Happy modding.
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post Nov 27 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Nov 27 2015, 08:19 PM)
Just changed to the 1.6 TB. Using stock 1.6 mouth right now, no port and polish nothing cause can't wait to try already.

My initial first impression was, holy fak davidke20 is right. I noticed a notable increase in lag for the throttle response. But nothing too significant. But can feel the torque a bit earlier. Pedal also a bit lighter liao. Don't know placebo effect or what. Probably is.

Easy mod. Even plasti dipping my front grill also takes longer.

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The lag wasn't really a LAG, it's just that the huge TOTO given too much air and the fuel mapping can't cope up with the change. You can try turn key to ACC + ON without waiting for the fuel pump activation TIT sound from the back, press gas pedal to metal and hold, let the toto position calibrate by itself. After that don't start, shut it back off. Wait for few seconds then restart your engine. Hopefully this will do some magic(well, it didn't work for me laugh.gif )

For the record, this 1.6 totobodi mod very suitable with 4-1 extractor. 1 way you maintain a huge amount of top end by having larger air intake, you'll also able to make use of 4-1 extractor to make quick evacuation and create vacuum suction to prelift your valves on lowend RPM. Ultimately, you'll need a fuel regulator to expand more on your high RPM. Otherwise not only no power gain, it may cause you run lean without knowing it.

QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 27 2015, 09:09 PM)
one question, using a bigger totobody and totobody spacer; does it give a near similar effect? cause iinm the spacer is to increase amount of air going in from butterfly valve onwards right?
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Totally different thing whistling.gif Big toto allowed fast and more air flow. The spacer is just 1 extra spacer to allow you buffer more air IN the intake manifold. Theoretically, space will make you gain some edge on the low end rpm due to IAFM modulated airflow for longer pass to counter torque dip. With a spacer, you allowed the IAFM to go further to gain access to atmosphere, so your low end will be running richer. On high end...





Seriously, I don't know where the theory came from when people came up with all sort of dyno results that claims their car after add spacer gain 1 horse powah. Professionals N/A engine tuners doing all their best to cut short their intake manifold just to gain 5~10whp on high RPM. Our Kampro IAFM uses the multi channel intake module to shorten the intake funnel at 4krpm just to maintain maximum power output. I can't brain how a longer/further intake will make them gain power yawn.gif

Before and after spacer installation, on dyno test. Take note, we're talking about reputable brand, the Sentra SER angmo spec on test is running on an XTRAIL 2.5 engine



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