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 Working in Singapore V18, All About Living in The Little Red Dot

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darrenboy
post May 6 2016, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(morgana_jara @ May 6 2016, 05:35 PM)
If you're in a mid-tier or big 4 audit firm, you would have gotten the exam leave. On pay issues, small audit firms are not generally known to pay as well as the big 4. Even in the big 4, the salary increase is mostly from promotion and not increment.

If you go to commercial firms, you will encounter the same issue with low increments every year. This is why most accounting grads choose to go into audit at a big 4, climb the ranks fast, then get out at manager level to go into commercial. 

If you're that desperate to get out of your current job, try to get into the big 4 to get the name on your resume, then leave after a year or two. The pay should be comparable or higher than what you're getting now, and with the brand name it would be easier to get a job.
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Brand name? I wish that was always true. Not always true. It's more of your experience and your industry. If you are in a certain industry for many years, it will be difficult to enter into a new industry, for instance. Experience - what are your job scope, what have you accomplished, etc- these are more important. Of course, if you work in a nameless firm, people will also think you have less job scope, less exposure, less accomplishment, etc But if you can get that all important interview, then you can demonstrate your worth. Tell them your experience, accomplishment, etc.

Anyway, I am done with Singapore. Why have "x3", when you can have "x4"? LOL......hahaha.... if only..... biggrin.gif
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post May 6 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ May 6 2016, 11:10 PM)
Brand name? I wish that was always true. Not always true. It's more of your experience and your industry. If you are in a certain industry for many years, it will be difficult to enter into a new industry, for instance. Experience - what are your job scope, what have you accomplished, etc-  these are more important. Of course, if you work in a nameless firm, people will also think you have less job scope, less exposure, less accomplishment, etc But if you can get that all important interview, then you can demonstrate your worth. Tell them your experience, accomplishment, etc.

Anyway, I am done with Singapore. Why have "x3", when you can have "x4"? LOL......hahaha.... if only..... biggrin.gif
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Then you should go UK, x 5.7?

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post May 7 2016, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ May 6 2016, 11:10 PM)
Brand name? I wish that was always true. Not always true. It's more of your experience and your industry. If you are in a certain industry for many years, it will be difficult to enter into a new industry, for instance. Experience - what are your job scope, what have you accomplished, etc-  these are more important. Of course, if you work in a nameless firm, people will also think you have less job scope, less exposure, less accomplishment, etc But if you can get that all important interview, then you can demonstrate your worth. Tell them your experience, accomplishment, etc.

Anyway, I am done with Singapore. Why have "x3", when you can have "x4"? LOL......hahaha.... if only..... biggrin.gif
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where to have x4 , pls enlighten me rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post May 7 2016, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(darrenboy @ May 6 2016, 11:10 PM)
Brand name? I wish that was always true. Not always true. It's more of your experience and your industry. If you are in a certain industry for many years, it will be difficult to enter into a new industry, for instance. Experience - what are your job scope, what have you accomplished, etc-  these are more important. Of course, if you work in a nameless firm, people will also think you have less job scope, less exposure, less accomplishment, etc But if you can get that all important interview, then you can demonstrate your worth. Tell them your experience, accomplishment, etc.

Anyway, I am done with Singapore. Why have "x3", when you can have "x4"? LOL......hahaha.... if only..... biggrin.gif
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Brand name does help. Why?

Cos to enter such esteemed company like Facebook, McKinsey, Temasek, Exxon Mobil, etc normally in their respective industry these companies would have recruited the best and well groomed candidates. However pay wise would probably just on par in the market

If you claimed you have 3 years experience from these companies, Versus another candidate from a cinapek company, the cinapek one would need more years of experience to up his hiring chances
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post May 7 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 7 2016, 12:28 AM)
Brand name does help. Why?

Cos to enter such esteemed company like Facebook, McKinsey, Temasek, Exxon Mobil, etc normally in their respective industry these companies would have recruited the best and well groomed candidates. However pay wise would probably just on par in the market

If you claimed you have 3 years experience from these companies, Versus another candidate from a cinapek company, the cinapek one would need more years of experience to up his hiring chances
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I agreed as a HR practitioner's point of view. We tend to hire back those from MNCs and preferable from the same industry. smile.gif
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post May 7 2016, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ May 7 2016, 12:09 AM)
where to have x4 , pls enlighten me  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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middle east biggrin.gif

bahrain / kuwait / qatar ?
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post May 7 2016, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(knwong @ May 7 2016, 12:28 AM)
Brand name does help. Why?

Cos to enter such esteemed company like Facebook, McKinsey, Temasek, Exxon Mobil, etc normally in their respective industry these companies would have recruited the best and well groomed candidates. However pay wise would probably just on par in the market

If you claimed you have 3 years [B]experience[/B] from these companies, Versus another candidate from a cinapek company, the cinapek one would need more years of experience to up his hiring chances
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On the surface it may seems to be brand, but really it is about experience that you gained form those companies - MNCs, Cinapek, or whatever. That was what I was trying to say.

QUOTE(IwanAGP @ May 6 2016, 11:14 PM)
Then you should go UK, x 5.7?

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If possible, yes.... but I will try for 4 first. Hehehehe....don't want to be too greedy. biggrin.gif

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post May 7 2016, 10:47 AM

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post May 7 2016, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ May 6 2016, 06:43 PM)
or do it the other way round...fiancee apply and he become the spouse in 1 single application like my case.
the company back then was 1 year bond after PR approval and employer cpf comes from me also.
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I think its the same? since I will be a PR while working in my current company.... so I think they can still bind me?
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ May 6 2016, 09:48 PM)
try midtier firm  /big-4 , and then apply pr from there.
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I wished I went to big 4 when I was still a fresh grad... but I think now I dont feel like doing audit anymore.. very tiring...
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QUOTE(z21j @ May 6 2016, 10:37 PM)
Work in Singapore (but don't buy HDB) and settle down in Australia.

Qn: If you leave within 3 years then what happen? They cant tie you down what.
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How to work in sg but settle down in Australia? Its so hard to get a working permit to even remain and stay in Aussie...

Leave within 3 years, compensate 3 months pay.
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QUOTE(knwong @ May 7 2016, 12:28 AM)
Brand name does help. Why?

Cos to enter such esteemed company like Facebook, McKinsey, Temasek, Exxon Mobil, etc normally in their respective industry these companies would have recruited the best and well groomed candidates. However pay wise would probably just on par in the market

If you claimed you have 3 years experience from these companies, Versus another candidate from a cinapek company, the cinapek one would need more years of experience to up his hiring chances
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I think this is what I am facing now. Big mistake to join small firms
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QUOTE(fruitie @ May 7 2016, 12:41 AM)
I agreed as a HR practitioner's point of view. We tend to hire back those from MNCs and preferable from the same industry. smile.gif
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so basically someone who has a degree and pursuing a professional qualification who is from CINAPEK COMPANY is screwed?
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post May 7 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ May 6 2016, 11:01 PM)
The form is just to say you working there and should not be used as a leverage for the company to negotiate any terms with you by signing the form. I think you can submit without the form too if your boss don't want to sign. You pay tax? Your company registered with ACRA? Your employment and company info already inside SG database. ICA only need to click then can access.

Your boss CA? Threaten to complain to ISCA, so unprofessional, and police too. SG want better people come in and this kind of people is hampering gahmen's effort to attract talent.
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Tax resident. Company registered with ACRA. I think the cinapek boss is definitely an arse CA.... Haihz
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post May 7 2016, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Dilemmaz @ May 7 2016, 02:40 PM)
I think its the same? since I will be a PR while working in my current company.... so I think they can still bind me?
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go thru the offer letter again.
most likely it is IF you get the company letter, then the "bond" kicks in if approved.
well, mine was like that...so this was the back door. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dilemmaz @ May 7 2016, 02:49 PM)
so basically someone who has a degree and pursuing a professional qualification who is from CINAPEK COMPANY is screwed?
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Get your professional qualification yet.
Not to say screwed la but bigger well-known companies will be nicer to hear lo, at least people are familiar with that company.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ May 7 2016, 03:07 PM)
Get your professional qualification yet.
Not to say screwed la but bigger well-known companies will be nicer to hear lo, at least people are familiar with that company.
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cry.gif alright.
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post May 7 2016, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ May 7 2016, 02:55 PM)
go thru the offer letter again.
most likely it is IF you get the company letter, then the "bond" kicks in if approved.
well, mine was like that...so this was the back door.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I will go have alook at the offer letter again... but my arse cinapek boss wont let this good chance to go if he gets to bind me for another 3 years of crappy pay and loads of work
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post May 7 2016, 06:26 PM

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post May 7 2016, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(Dilemmaz @ May 7 2016, 02:42 PM)
How to work in sg but settle down in Australia? Its so hard to get a working permit to even remain and stay in Aussie...

Leave within 3 years, compensate 3 months pay.
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I mean work in sg and save enough (work out your figure), then go Australia settle down. Try apply for subclass 190, should be easier. Don't buy HDB ba, all hard-earned $$ go back to gov.



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