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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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mashimarow
post Feb 14 2007, 10:50 AM

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Isn't E6600 running at 2.4? Think you OC too much cause the system lockup. Hopefully you didn't burn the CPU in the process sweat.gif
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post Feb 14 2007, 01:24 PM

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Hi yehlai,

Like to ask anyway to test the PSU without fixing it into the rig ? I remember once I read something like this in LYN, but can't seem to find it anymore. Please advice.

Thank you.
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post Feb 14 2007, 10:23 PM


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hehe....just go from 2.4 to 3.4 only....i know ppl ocing to 4ghz.....so maybe my psu limited me lo...
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Feb 14 2007, 01:24 PM)
Hi yehlai,

Like to ask anyway to test the PSU without fixing it into the rig ? I remember once I read something like this in LYN, but can't seem to find it anymore. Please advice.

Thank you.
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Multimeter or voltmeter.
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post Feb 16 2007, 04:22 PM

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I want to ask, is my power supply (CoolerMaster extremePower 430w) are good enough for my PC spec? (check my sig + 1 DVD Writer)

And before I change to CoolerMaster PSU, my PSU was iCute 450w. Did I make a good move by changing my PSU? or it just waste my money?

And did the pc component could be damaged if I didn't turn off the main power supply when I not use the PC?

Hope the sifu can answer my curiousity~
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post Feb 17 2007, 09:08 AM

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8800 shocking.gif get yourself a 500W PSU and a branded one, capable of producing 40A on 12V rail. Besides, your RAM only 512, which will drag down the 8800 performance.
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post Feb 17 2007, 02:16 PM

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Hello all the sifu here, wat kind of psu would be good for my rig, CM extreme power 600w or the enermax fma 460w

O can recommand a psu around RM300?
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add another rm50 can get u the Cooler Master Real Power 550W SLi ready,Enermax FMA II 535W,and Liberty 400W....Epsilon 600W also can get by top up a bit from ur budget.
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QUOTE(Zicron @ Feb 17 2007, 02:16 PM)
Hello all the sifu here, wat kind of psu would be good for my rig, CM extreme power 600w or the enermax fma 460w

O can recommand a psu around RM300?
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Give Silverstone ST56F (560w) a try. the retail price is RM349 only.
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post Feb 17 2007, 06:44 PM

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Great review u have here biggrin.gif
May i ask a super noob question?
I'm using a ayam brand PSU, RM30-40 that kind, claimed to have 450W doh.gif

Now there's only very little hardware in my rig and i used some PSU voltage calculator to count, i need around 218W to support the rig.

Just wondering, is there any chance that ayam brand PSU will spoil when too many hardware (require too high power) or simply just spoil without any reason?

2 of my friends just had their rigs busted not long ago, many components bricked and the shop said it's becuz of the PSU... am thinking about changing mine before too late...

ideas anyone?
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QUOTE(rootified @ Feb 17 2007, 06:44 PM)
Great review u have here biggrin.gif
May i ask a super noob question?
I'm using a ayam brand PSU, RM30-40 that kind, claimed to have 450W doh.gif

Now there's only very little hardware in my rig and i used some PSU voltage calculator to count, i need around 218W to support the rig.

Just wondering, is there any chance that ayam brand PSU will spoil when too many hardware (require too high power) or simply just spoil without any reason?

2 of my friends just had their rigs busted not long ago, many components bricked and the shop said it's becuz of the PSU... am thinking about changing mine before too late...

ideas anyone?
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my advice, get true power, with at least 450W...
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Feb 17 2007, 07:30 PM)
my advice, get true power, with at least 450W...
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hmm... when PSU malfunction, is there any difference between good ones and cheap ones? i was told that good PSU will not affect other components of the CPU in most cases of malfunctioning while cheap PSU, due to lack of something (?), will ruin other components...

in short, good PSU die alone while lousy one takes the whole rig with it...

is that true?

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post Feb 19 2007, 04:10 AM

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Got a question.

From what I heard, HEC have the lowest fail rate among PSU, even during the good old days of 200-300watters, they are ranked among the top 5 of "RELIABLE" no bullshit useless accessories/cosmetic and build like a tank PSU.

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true or not?

Planning to buy a HEC 550watter for my SLI C2D setup, unless something better comes along. smile.gif

PC Power and Cooling is my first choice, but profit margin of selling ultra expensive uber PSU around south east asia is so low that nobody is willing to stock them here. sad.gif


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QUOTE(rootified @ Feb 17 2007, 08:26 PM)
hmm... when PSU malfunction, is there any difference between good ones and cheap ones? i was told that good PSU will not affect other components of the CPU in most cases of malfunctioning while cheap PSU, due to lack of something (?), will ruin other components...

in short, good PSU die alone while lousy one takes the whole rig with it...

is that true?
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Kurt angle said it's TRUE. so it must be true.

I-Ugly PSU and the other al-cheapo PSU will "MOST LIKELY" not stop the overvolt current from going to the other components and destroying them during one of those rare lightning strike or when Tenaga nasional decided to give you some FREE extra electric, hah.



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post Feb 19 2007, 05:23 PM

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checked I-cute 450W (the cheapest one) specification.
quite surprised to see that it has ALL the fancy protection OPP OVP all those. other brand's product with similar feature costs at least RM200+++ doh.gif they're selling it at like RM75? doh.gif

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post Feb 20 2007, 07:37 AM

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If you are budget tight, try Acbel E2 Power 350W, strong 12V with 34A and only cost RM139.

Using cap 'ayam' PSU is like playing russian roulette, sometimes it fails itself, sometimes it takes something tegether.

Use some free program to check the voltage regulate in your pc like everest and see the voltage supply, the closer the voltage to designated rail will be nicer. Never let your 12V drop below 11.60
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post Feb 20 2007, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Feb 20 2007, 07:37 AM)
If you are budget tight, try Acbel E2 Power 350W, strong 12V with 34A and only cost RM139.

Using cap 'ayam' PSU is like playing russian roulette, sometimes it fails itself, sometimes it takes something tegether.

Use some free program to check the voltage regulate in your pc like everest and see the voltage supply, the closer the voltage to designated rail will be nicer.  Never let your 12V drop below 11.60
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i'm using a program called PC Alert, it's included in my mobo's driver installation disc.

u mean something like this?
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post Feb 20 2007, 04:22 PM

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This will do, and can you see your 12V is so low? Go buy a branded one quick before the PSU die.
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post Feb 20 2007, 07:43 PM

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Question: what is the MININUM wattage required to support dual 8800GTX, C2D system?

I heard it can be done with 550-600watts psu, it it true?

I'm planning to run SLI 8800Gtx with my fortron epsilon 700watts.


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post Feb 20 2007, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(mashimarow @ Feb 20 2007, 04:22 PM)
This will do, and can you see your 12V is so low? Go buy a branded one quick before the PSU die.
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the acbel PSU u recommended... is 24pin right?
my mobo is 20 pin one wor... doh.gif doh.gif

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u can check my spec in my signature. a low power-consuming rig actually...
but will add a 7300GT and change to P4 3.0G HT very very soon, may add 1~2 12CM casing fan also...

i used some web site PSU calculator, said the total consumption would be around 220W... so it's more than enough if i get a... let's say Cooler Master Extreme Power 380W right?

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post Feb 21 2007, 09:32 AM

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rootified:
Watt is only used as a guideline when you purchase PSU, when calculated which required 220W, then , you need to find a 300 or 350W to cope with your current system. However, modern system now consume 12V amp more than 5 years ago system which rely on 3.3V and 5V. Therefore, those cheap PSU which shows 400+W have very high 3.3V and 5V but look at 12V rail, it is not even 20A shocking.gif
When you plug in a power required g/c, it drain power from PSU, but your other system also require 12V, HD,CPU,mobo all needs 12V, after 2-3 hours play, you suffer strange behaviour, you system can slowdown, you display seems flashing, your HD seems reading more and more slowly or even BSOD randomly. sweat.gif Geez..I talk a lot sweat.gif

Acbel 350W has a detachable 24pin plug which means it is a 20+4 pin, I am using one if you read my sig and my mobo sure is many years older than yours. Coolermaster don't have detachable 24pin plug, you need to buy a 24->20pin convertor. The extra 4pin is for PCI-E board. That's why some entry/mid level PCI-E don't need extra power because you already supply it with the 4pin on mobo.

lamely_named:
8800 is a power hunger, a typical C2D equip with 8800GTX require 550W and if you use SLI, you certainly need 1000W PSU. Noted that 8800GTX(GTS only need one) need two 6pin molex and only 1000W supply supply 4 6pin molex. For your 700W PSU, think you can SLI GTS version.

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