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 Choosing The Right PSU, Discussions about power supply units.

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mashimarow
post Dec 2 2006, 11:38 PM

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Perhaps during calculation of Watt, you need to consider the wasted product of heat, as no PSU can generate 100% true power. 70% is at the safe side.
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post Dec 22 2006, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(mr_habuk @ Dec 19 2006, 12:07 PM)
thanks bro..
but its still can power-up the system right?
wont add extra gadget yet untill getting higher watt PSU..
for temporary only.. hmm.gif
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Acbel produce high amp for 12V, it manage to start your pc, just don't OC, not too much card(3.3&5V is low for acbel), 1HD,1DVD should be OK. Without additional gadget, I think it can last a year smile.gif

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post Jan 9 2007, 07:40 AM

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Only 40W left, very dangerous line, as watt is only being used as guide and the calculator isn't always correct. Besides, coolermaster don't produce enough amp on 12V, better change a new one when you afford, at least 450W with high amp if you don't oc.
At the mean time, any unneccesary drive or card can be removed to save more energy. During intensive game running, opening/running many program will increase the CPU/GPU/HD usage which draw more energy, when it cross the line, the pc just shutoff/restart.
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post Jan 13 2007, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis181188 @ Jan 9 2007, 06:43 PM)
So if I were to upgrade my gc just say X1950XT I would need a new PSU too?
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How much the calculator read when your change to X1950XT? I believe this card is power hunger, you might need a more powerful PSU.
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post Jan 18 2007, 07:41 AM

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Base on rough calculation, you need 380W to power them, unbranded PSU normally don't tell the exact watt produced, you need to check on the amp produced.
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post Feb 1 2007, 05:58 PM

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Kunyit: Based on basic calculation, your system already take up 487W, I take granded that you have 3 80mm fan in your system without water cooler and PSU less than 1 years old which isn't 24/7.

As a word of advice, at least get a 550W, or you risk random crashing which might damage your system when PSU overburden.

note:GTS is the one using dual 6 pin power molex or the GTX one?
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post Feb 2 2007, 06:48 AM

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You sure only one fan hmm.gif Your g/c suppose to have fan, your cpu suppose to have fan, your PSU also suppose to have fan...
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post Feb 14 2007, 07:32 AM

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Could be not your PSU fault, how old is your PSU, your C2D rig only require 322W as basic setup, your 500W PSU should able to support it.
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post Feb 14 2007, 10:50 AM

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Isn't E6600 running at 2.4? Think you OC too much cause the system lockup. Hopefully you didn't burn the CPU in the process sweat.gif
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post Feb 17 2007, 09:08 AM

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8800 shocking.gif get yourself a 500W PSU and a branded one, capable of producing 40A on 12V rail. Besides, your RAM only 512, which will drag down the 8800 performance.
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post Feb 20 2007, 07:37 AM

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If you are budget tight, try Acbel E2 Power 350W, strong 12V with 34A and only cost RM139.

Using cap 'ayam' PSU is like playing russian roulette, sometimes it fails itself, sometimes it takes something tegether.

Use some free program to check the voltage regulate in your pc like everest and see the voltage supply, the closer the voltage to designated rail will be nicer. Never let your 12V drop below 11.60
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post Feb 20 2007, 04:22 PM

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This will do, and can you see your 12V is so low? Go buy a branded one quick before the PSU die.
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post Feb 21 2007, 09:32 AM

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rootified:
Watt is only used as a guideline when you purchase PSU, when calculated which required 220W, then , you need to find a 300 or 350W to cope with your current system. However, modern system now consume 12V amp more than 5 years ago system which rely on 3.3V and 5V. Therefore, those cheap PSU which shows 400+W have very high 3.3V and 5V but look at 12V rail, it is not even 20A shocking.gif
When you plug in a power required g/c, it drain power from PSU, but your other system also require 12V, HD,CPU,mobo all needs 12V, after 2-3 hours play, you suffer strange behaviour, you system can slowdown, you display seems flashing, your HD seems reading more and more slowly or even BSOD randomly. sweat.gif Geez..I talk a lot sweat.gif

Acbel 350W has a detachable 24pin plug which means it is a 20+4 pin, I am using one if you read my sig and my mobo sure is many years older than yours. Coolermaster don't have detachable 24pin plug, you need to buy a 24->20pin convertor. The extra 4pin is for PCI-E board. That's why some entry/mid level PCI-E don't need extra power because you already supply it with the 4pin on mobo.

lamely_named:
8800 is a power hunger, a typical C2D equip with 8800GTX require 550W and if you use SLI, you certainly need 1000W PSU. Noted that 8800GTX(GTS only need one) need two 6pin molex and only 1000W supply supply 4 6pin molex. For your 700W PSU, think you can SLI GTS version.
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post Feb 21 2007, 03:23 PM

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Never heard of incompatible PSU with any normal mobo, except the Dell casing.
Pentium D is old-tech dual core. Put some more money, you can get a C2D which is newer tech, say E6300 will be more than enough, but then you will need 450W smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2007, 08:44 PM

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Yours is a AGP/PCI-E board right? The board mainly is for AGP slot with PCI-E as extra for future use. It is also great for people to switch to 775 socket to try out duo core while retain his AGP card, RAM and PSU.

Yours is a special case blush.gif

Addition note : AGP is dead since 6 series card, but they keep it alive by adding a bridge chip to decode PCI-E signal to AGP. I didn't see the architech built out of your Asrock, I believe it is using the same technology. Correct me if I am wrong whistling.gif
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post Feb 22 2007, 11:47 AM

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Rootified:
Why not use your PCI-E slot? You mean like a socket plug in AGP slot where you can plug in PCI-E card? There is, but don't seems to have it here, people rather change to PCI-E board than using back the old one.

E-J@1:
It's midnight, people are sleeping nod.gif
A small PSU, perhaps for slim casing use. The 12V amp is very low and 200W! What pc you plan to use it on? A 486 or pentium 1?
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post Feb 23 2007, 12:20 AM

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rootified:
Once you change to PCI-E board, you can sell your AGP away to someone still using AGP board or, you can get a Asrock mobo like kataro, it supports old AGP card, old DDR RAM and old PSU with 20pin plus a addition PCI-E slot for future use, plus it support DDR2 RAM and plus it is a 775 socket where you can plug in C2D rclxms.gif Unfortunately, you can't SLI PCI-E and AGP together, actually that PCI-E is linked with AGP.

E-J@1:
Perhaps take the pc together with casing to check what type of PSU it can fit in. Cheap PSU is like that sweat.gif

Lamely-named:
I don't suggest using a cheap PSU to support high tech 8800, besides, cheap PSU don't have 6 pin molex. There are people using such method to avoid buying expensive 1000W PSU by using a 450W for mobo and another 450W for g/c only. You need to short circuit the PSU to think it is plug in mobo so that it can start (PSU won't start if it didn't plug in the 20/24pin slot). I don't think people outside will do that for you and you void your warranty if something toast, not to mention get yourself/whole system electrocuted.
If you can buy 8800GTX SLI, it is nothing much for another 1000W, the PSU itself is cheaper than a single 8800GTX.
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post Feb 23 2007, 01:07 AM

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With all kinds of work, I rather get a high power PSU sweat.gif
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post Feb 23 2007, 08:31 AM

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Both, and you tend to get BSOD unexpectedly. When you power on the system, there will be high risk of sudden surge of power, just like E-j@1 said.
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post Feb 25 2007, 06:46 PM

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Correct, you have 44A, enough to run 8800GTS

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