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post Jan 3 2007, 06:20 PM

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any one know if dell going to release a ultrasharp version of E228WFP?
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QUOTE(ah_fui @ Jan 3 2007, 05:13 PM)
i hav a doubt regarding the lcd Response Time(ms)
how to measure it???
is it the highest represent good or the lowest represent good ???

how to diff it
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Dear ah fui,

Well without adding much confusion to your doubt, lets just say the lower a LCD panel's response time, the better it'll be. So get the lowest LCD response time your money can buy. Unlike few years back, the common LCD response time is around 25ms and the 16ms panels were quite expensive. 25ms is considered ok for movie but for very fast gaming situations, ghosting still occurs.

Right now, it is safe to say that any common LCD panel would have satisfactory LCD response time. I'll say you get any LCD panel within your means that are below 16ms, probably less than 8ms if possible.

If you're following this forum, there are a few more categories to worry about. The type of panel, the panel color bit (6bit/8bit), etc. So its best to let the experts here explain, if you require any,
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QUOTE(Shin_ @ Jan 3 2007, 06:01 PM)
New! & Clueless!
Wanna get a new LCD screen.
dun own any PC screen at e moment.
Mac turn PC user.
Total clueless...
was hoping to get a (min)19 inch for less than 1k.
widescreen or not widescreen.
findin for sthing good to work with...
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Q. Would getting a widescreen affect my PC games?
as in... distort it ..just to fit it in...
arigato gozaimas in advance
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Hi there,

For a budget of around RM1000 and 19" LCD requirement, here are the choices:

Samsung Syncmaster 932B, 940BF (Non-widescreen)
Samsung Syncmaster 940BW (Widescreen)
Viewsonic VA912BW (Non-widescreen)

There are of course a lot more choices like Acer, Benq and LG available at the stores but I'm not familiar with them. I've seen and used the above mention panels before which I find quite good. You'll have to try them out to make a choice. Read back the threads about LCD because they mention some good explainations about the type of panel to choose and various other parameters.

Playing PC games on a widescreen shouldn't pose much of problem provided the game supports the 16:10 aspect ratio resolutions. You might need to update some of your games to enable the resolutions. With older games, I guess you'll need to set your monitor to maintain the aspect ratio. Thats when you'll see the 5:4 ratio on your screen while the rest will be covered in black bars at the side.

With PC gaming, you are not necessarily required to utilize the native resolution. You could choose a lower resolution that is not so taxing to your graphic adapters as long as you choose a resolution that maintains the aspect ratio - 5:4 for non-widescreen and 16:10 for widescreen. Of course, if you have a good graphic adapters by all means play at its full glory since LCD panels look the best in their native resolution.

Your graphic card drivers should not have much of a problem supporting the native resolutions on desktop. Playing DVD movies should be fine while playing VCDs or movie medias that don't support widescreen you'll have to tweak your media software to maintain the aspect ratio and not fill up the screen. Some LCD have a setting to maintain aspect ratio which prevents it from resizing the media and fill up the whole screen.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Jan 3 2007, 09:17 PM
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guys...

anyone here got inputs between dell entry level E207WFP vs. ultrasharp 2007WFP ??? i see the specs...the entry level like better...
but ultrasharp version got more types of inputs...

so actually...the difference is only the additional inputs? or i'm missing something here? the contrast ratio, brightness the same and in fact, entry level response time is way much better than ultrasharp...but entry level viewing angle is smaller...

so actually, the ultrasharp worth getting or save the RM350 difference and just buy the entry level?

i cannot find a place for me to compare side by side...based on specs on paper...what i understand is picture quality no difference but the ultrasharp more input types lor... so appreciate any inputs...thanks.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 3 2007, 09:24 PM)
guys...

anyone here got inputs between dell entry level E207WFP vs. ultrasharp 2007WFP ??? i see the specs...the entry level like better...
but ultrasharp version got more types of inputs...

so actually...the difference is only the additional inputs? or i'm missing something here? the contrast ratio, brightness the same and in fact, entry level response time is way much better than ultrasharp...but entry level viewing angle is smaller...

so actually, the ultrasharp worth getting or save the RM350 difference and just buy the entry level?

i cannot find a place for me to compare side by side...based on specs on paper...what i understand is picture quality no difference but the ultrasharp more input types lor... so appreciate any inputs...thanks.
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it's the panel that differs them..``
e207 .. using TN panel... while 2007 uses s-ips panel..`
you can google around for the characteristics of both panels..

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guys...
can u recommend any 17inch lcd ??
no need to be super nice de...
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QUOTE(10071985 @ Jan 4 2007, 12:06 AM)
guys...
can u recommend any 17inch lcd ??
no need to be super nice de...
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Get something that affordable.
Acer AL1717?

As u said no need super nice, get the most affordable one.
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the contrast... if 500:1 is consider good?
and which lcd brand is better

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any performance differences between normal screen and wide screen LCD??
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 3 2007, 09:37 AM)
The Samsung Syncmaster 960BF is good LCD monitor. It has height and pivot adjustments, plus the 4ms (Grey to Grey) response is great for gaming. The only down point here is the 5:4 aspect ratio. More and more games are going over to the 16:10 widescreen ratio.

So if you'll be playing the latest and greatest games, assuming that you'll be upgrading your graphic cards every now and then, a widescreen monitor would be of more value to you. Also of course, if you're into watching movies in front of your PC.

This is not to say that 5:4 would be useless, every game would still support this aspect ratio so its just a matter of preferences for now. If you're doing productivity work, a widescreen would definitely increase your efficiency since you could put up two documents side by side or working with two software side by side without the need of minimizing.
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yeah, i've been considering either 19" or 20" widescreen lcd.. but my greatest concern is the response time.. most 20" widescreen has only 16ms or 12ms response time.. i'm afraid there'll be ghosting during gaming.. is there any 20" widescreen lcd which has 8ms or lower?

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QUOTE(irix @ Jan 4 2007, 01:09 AM)
yeah, i've been considering either 19" or 20" widescreen lcd.. but my greatest concern is the response time.. most 20" widescreen has only 16ms or 12ms response time.. i'm afraid there'll be ghosting during gaming.. is there any 20" widescreen lcd which has 8ms or lower?
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Again, those panels having 16ms or lower response time are not distinguishable by human eyes unless yours is supernatural. My 2007WFP with 16ms response time doesn't give me any ghosting at all though. You should consider for the contrast ratio and colour reproduction instead.
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QUOTE(blaxez @ Jan 4 2007, 01:15 AM)
Again, those panels having 16ms or lower response time are not distinguishable by human eyes unless yours is supernatural. My 2007WFP with 16ms response time doesn't give me any ghosting at all though. You should consider for the contrast ratio and colour reproduction instead.
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i see.. so, any recommended models for 20" widescreen? and will it perform well with my 9600XT especially when playing games?
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hi all, i'm planning to get a new 19" lcd... and samsung 971p is what's on my mind... can u guys suggest me any other nice lcd? thanx~!!
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I'm also planning to get a 19" LCD? Normal or widescreen? Which is better?
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omg! drool.gif Dell E207WFP selling online at RM 1,049!!!

Is this cheap? I thought it was at RM1200 a month back, wasn't it?

p.s. Offer ends 8/1/2007, I think.
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i asked around and the viewsonic 2025 model has been replaced with the VG2030wm.

Anyone has any idea what panel is this replacement model using?
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 3 2007, 09:16 PM)
Hi there,

For a budget of around RM1000 and 19" LCD requirement, here are the choices:

Samsung Syncmaster 932B, 940BF (Non-widescreen)
Samsung Syncmaster 940BW (Widescreen)
Viewsonic VA912BW (Non-widescreen)

There are of course a lot more choices like Acer, Benq and LG available at the stores but I'm not familiar with them. I've seen and used the above mention panels before which I find quite good. You'll have to try them out to make a choice. Read back the threads about LCD because they mention some good explainations about the type of panel to choose and various other parameters.

Playing PC games on a widescreen shouldn't pose much of problem provided the game supports the 16:10 aspect ratio resolutions. You might need to update some of your games to enable the resolutions. With older games, I guess you'll need to set your monitor to maintain the aspect ratio. Thats when you'll see the 5:4 ratio on your screen while the rest will be covered in black bars at the side.

With PC gaming, you are not necessarily required to utilize the native resolution. You could choose a lower resolution that is not so taxing to your graphic adapters as long as you choose a resolution that maintains the aspect ratio - 5:4 for non-widescreen and 16:10 for widescreen. Of course, if you have a good graphic adapters by all means play at its full glory since LCD panels look the best in their native resolution.

Your graphic card drivers should not have much of a problem supporting the native resolutions on desktop. Playing DVD movies should be fine while playing VCDs or movie medias that don't support widescreen you'll have to tweak your media software to maintain the aspect ratio and not fill up the screen. Some LCD have a setting to maintain aspect ratio which prevents it from resizing the media and fill up the whole screen.

Hope this helps.
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Hi,

I'm planning to get the Samsung Syncmaster 940BW (Widescreen). I'm currently using dual screen monitor where my main monitor is a 17' BenQ LCD monitor and my other one is a CRT MONITOR which will be replaced with the widescreen.
Are there any issue with dual monitor with one 17' and 19' widescreen monitor?
My main usage are browsing, and once a while gaming.
I'm using 6600GT GC. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 4 2007, 01:39 PM

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Anyone had tried using WS LCD with old graphic card? Let say Geforce 3 with DVI input. Does it work with driver updates?
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 4 2007, 01:39 PM)
Anyone had tried using WS LCD with old graphic card? Let say Geforce 3 with DVI input. Does it work with driver updates?
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Hi bro, I still using Dell 2007WFP with Geforce 2 440MX la...
The problem for the old graphic card is cant adjust the higher resolution....
It can be display but will blur/loss in text.
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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Jan 4 2007, 02:06 PM)
Hi bro, I still using Dell 2007WFP with Geforce 2 440MX la...
The problem for the old graphic card is cant adjust the higher resolution....
It can be display but will blur/loss in text.
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So it can do ws resolution? What is your current and max resolution the card will go?

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