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kevyeoh
post Jan 5 2007, 09:41 PM

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any user here who have actually used a dell and samsung LCD monitor?
i need to know the comparison between the two when playing games/watch DVD...

sometimes spec on paper doesn't really mean anything...
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post Jan 5 2007, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 4 2007, 07:35 PM)
Then you're good to go. It would be good to have your widescreen as the new primary monitor and retire your 17" LCD to be the secondary monitor. Quite a lot of new games support the 16:10 aspect ratio so you should be fine. For older games, you could have the game run on your secondary monitor.

Anyway its a matter of preferences. :-)
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Btw, what is the pro and cons between a Widescreen and a normal LCD???
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post Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(| e 3 h y 0 r | @ Jan 5 2007, 09:45 PM)
Btw, what is the pro and cons between a Widescreen and a normal LCD???
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it's totally up to u.
1. watching a widescreen movie (dvd-video) on a normal display will give u black bars at the top and bottom. but with widescreen, pictures fit perfectly. thumbup.gif
2. open 2 my computers or programs and drag and drop your files easily.
3. for windows vista, leave your sidebar there without interfering much of your real desktop space.
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post Jan 5 2007, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 5 2007, 05:12 PM)
i was thinking of buying new 19" LCD..any recommendation between
-19" ACER AL1916WAS; RSP 8MS; C.R 600:1
-19" SAMSUNG 940BW; RSP 4MS; C.R 500:1
-19" LG 1952S; RSP 8MS; C.R 1600:1
-19" VIEWSONIC VX922; RSP 2MS; 650:1

what is contrast ratio?the highest the better?
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Contrast ratio is actually the ratio of luminosity of the brightest and the darkest colour a monitor is able to produce. It can be simply explained as how white is white and how black is black as well as other colours. The higher the the contrast ratio, the bigger the difference between them.

When you watch a movie, sometimes you could see the blacks aren't as black but rather greyish and the white isn't that white but rather beige. That is the result of a lower contrast ratio. A good monitor with high enough contrast ratio should display black as in pure black including the different shades of black and also white and its shade accurately.

So YES, get a monitor with the highest contrast ratio your money can buy. Take note that there are two types of measuring contrast ratio that is denoted as dynamic or static. Monitor contrast ratios are usually denoted as static contrast ratio. If I'm not mistaken, LG denotes its contrast ratio as dynamic. That is why its contrast ratio is usually higher than the competitors. This could be a little misleading.

In my opinion, you could put Samsung as a reference so that you could make comparisons better and accurately. You should also take other parameters into consideration when choosing a LCD like panel type, colour reproductions, response time, etc.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM)
it's totally up to u.
1. watching a widescreen movie (dvd-video) on a normal display will give u black bars at the top and bottom. but with widescreen, pictures fit perfectly. thumbup.gif
2. open 2 my computers or programs and drag and drop your files easily.
3. for windows vista, leave your sidebar there without interfering much of your real desktop space.
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1 & 3, i don't really watch widescreen movies, probably not used to it and i dont plan to have windows vista any soon.

Any other pros???
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post Jan 5 2007, 11:39 PM

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coz widescreen is cool... rclxm9.gif
open ms word and ie for example and then make tile windows vertically..it still fits
Wide Screen thread

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post Jan 6 2007, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jan 5 2007, 09:57 PM)
Contrast ratio is actually the ratio of luminosity of the brightest and the darkest colour a monitor is able to produce. It can be simply explained as how white is white and how black is black as well as other colours. The higher the the contrast ratio, the bigger the difference between them.

When you watch a movie, sometimes you could see the blacks aren't as black but rather greyish and the white isn't that white but rather beige. That is the result of a lower contrast ratio. A good monitor with high enough contrast ratio should display black as in pure black including the different shades of black and also white and its shade accurately.

So YES, get a monitor with the highest contrast ratio your money can buy. Take note that there are two types of measuring contrast ratio that is denoted as dynamic or static. Monitor contrast ratios are usually denoted as static contrast ratio. If I'm not mistaken, LG denotes its contrast ratio as dynamic. That is why its contrast ratio is usually higher than the competitors. This could be a little misleading.

In my opinion, you could put Samsung as a reference so that you could make comparisons better and accurately. You should also take other parameters into consideration when choosing a LCD like panel type, colour reproductions, response time, etc.
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Samsung is similarly guilty with it's DNie engine. Anyway, expecting average LCD's to perform more than 1000:1 is very demanding indeed. Even if the boast the paper specs no one will know. So it's a mistake to judge LCD's on contrast, better go see it for urself. To tell u the truth, my 940BW has the worst contrast among all my LCDs which coincidentally matches the paper spec sheet hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 5 2007, 09:41 PM)
any user here who have actually used a dell and samsung LCD monitor?
i need to know the comparison between the two when playing games/watch DVD...

sometimes spec on paper doesn't really mean anything...
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It will highly depends on the model you are comparing to but not brand. Different model come with different specs and panel.

QUOTE(| e 3 h y 0 r |)
Btw, what is the pro and cons between a Widescreen and a normal LCD???


Pros
1. You will had better viewing space while watching dvd movies
2. You can open 2 browser side by side and still wont feel that its too small
3. You can enjoying a wider viewing angle while playing driving simulation and games which support wide screen resolution
4. You get alot more desktop space

Cons
1. You will hate it if you dont like it
2. Make all your chars game looks fat if the games doesnt support wide screen resolution
3. No matter you like it or not, most to all large lcd monitors are build base on wide screen ratio/ format

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QUOTE(sniperwolf @ Jan 6 2007, 12:36 AM)
It will highly depends on the model you are comparing to but not brand. Different model come with different specs and panel.

QUOTE(| e 3 h y 0 r |)
Btw, what is the pro and cons between a Widescreen and a normal LCD???


Pros
1. You will had better viewing space while watching dvd movies
2. You can open 2 browser side by side and still wont feel that its too small
3. You can enjoying a wider viewing angle while playing driving simulation and games which support wide screen resolution
4. You get alot more desktop space

Cons
1. You will hate it if you dont like it
2. Make all your chars game looks fat if the games doesnt support wide screen resolution
3. No matter you like it or not, most to all large lcd monitors are build base on wide screen ratio/ format
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Thanks bro notworthy.gif , besides forcing myself to like it, i think there aren't any bad Cons i could see. Unless someone here could voice it out.

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QUOTE(afosz @ Jan 5 2007, 11:39 PM)
coz widescreen is cool... rclxm9.gif
open ms word and ie for example and then make tile windows vertically..it still fits
Wide Screen thread
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Thanks!! Informative thread @@@ thumbup.gif
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post Jan 6 2007, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(redken @ Jan 6 2007, 12:17 AM)
Samsung is similarly guilty with it's DNie engine. Anyway, expecting average LCD's to perform more than 1000:1 is very demanding indeed. Even if the boast the paper specs no one will know. So it's a mistake to judge LCD's on contrast, better go see it for urself. To tell u the truth, my 940BW has the worst contrast among all my LCDs which coincidentally matches the paper spec sheet  hmm.gif
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940bw that worst arr?my bro using it..i see quite ok as i dont know much about lcd specs..any idea current price for viewsonic vx2025wm?it looks nice
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QUOTE(redken @ Jan 6 2007, 12:17 AM)
Samsung is similarly guilty with it's DNie engine. Anyway, expecting average LCD's to perform more than 1000:1 is very demanding indeed. Even if the boast the paper specs no one will know. So it's a mistake to judge LCD's on contrast, better go see it for urself. To tell u the truth, my 940BW has the worst contrast among all my LCDs which coincidentally matches the paper spec sheet  hmm.gif
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wahh dun scare me, 940BW that bad meh ??? i was planning to get it ..
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post Jan 6 2007, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(| e 3 h y 0 r | @ Jan 6 2007, 12:40 AM)
Thanks bro  notworthy.gif , besides forcing myself to like it, i think there aren't any bad Cons i could see. Unless someone here could voice it out.
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i wonder o2jam support widescreen anot since you like it so much..

nowadays those new games mostly support widescreen already..

normal LCD outdated soon.. it's time to say 'bubye'.. since the LCD prices will continue dropping as well..
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QUOTE(CherylDarryl @ Jan 6 2007, 01:01 AM)
i wonder o2jam support widescreen anot since you like it so much..

nowadays those new games mostly support widescreen already..

normal LCD outdated soon.. it's time to say 'bubye'.. since the LCD prices will continue dropping as well..
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define 'normal LCD' ......
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post Jan 6 2007, 02:00 AM

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I think he meant CRT, since he did mention the LCD price will be dropping wink.gif

p/s: Its been a week since Ive change from CRT to LCD.. and I really loves my 971P so sexy and elegant thumbup.gif

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Anyone plan to get one of these?

iZ3D 22" Widescreen
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post Jan 6 2007, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(redken @ Jan 6 2007, 12:17 AM)
Samsung is similarly guilty with it's DNie engine. Anyway, expecting average LCD's to perform more than 1000:1 is very demanding indeed. Even if the boast the paper specs no one will know. So it's a mistake to judge LCD's on contrast, better go see it for urself. To tell u the truth, my 940BW has the worst contrast among all my LCDs which coincidentally matches the paper spec sheet  hmm.gif
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Totally agreed. The DNie engine is something like a colour reproduction optimizer which tries to reproduce more natural colours and boost contrast ratio. Sadly this usually adds unwanted components to the reproduction itself like loss of detail and unnatural colours. For a LCD to have a real high contrast ratio, the brightness itself have to be of sufficient number too, so expecting a panel with 300cdm2 to perform more than 1500:1 sounds too good to be true.

I have an old Viewsonic VE710b-2 which have a declared brightness of 300cdm2 but in actual fact it is much brighter compared to other panels to a point of uncomfortable to the eyes. The brightness levels in their respective menu were pushed all the way to maximum but the Viewsonic seems much brighter and the contrast were better. Of course, on regular usage the brightness have to be tuned down to a comfortable level.

So it is best to go see for yourself and make comparisons of your own. Some shops might not have all the models on display so shop around till you see all the models in your consideration.
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guys i'm thinking of getting LG L194WT lcd monitor for 360 & pc gaming. any comments?
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post Jan 6 2007, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(skidd @ Jan 6 2007, 10:47 AM)
guys i'm thinking of getting LG L194WT lcd monitor for 360 & pc gaming. any comments?
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i just bought a 194WT...the picture sharpness is great so u dont need to set the contrast and brightness to very high....i set contrast to 50 and brightness to 40...about games and movie...great too.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif



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post Jan 6 2007, 05:03 PM

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but 19" wide lcd is so short...
its even shorter than normal 17" lcd

if i were to buy wide lcd, i will minimum start from 20" and above, but it is so expensive...

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