Hi everyone

So my mom was diagnosed with mucus pass in the ovaries during 1st week of july 2p15
Took her to the hospital, HUKM/UKM at selangor
and clean the stomach from the mucus pass and removed the "exploded" ovary(total of 2 surgeries)
Rested in the hospital for 1 week
And was sent home to rest for 3 week while waiting for the report on the medical research of the ovray to detect any cancer
Good news is that there's none
Bad new.....

After 3 week, near the 1st week of August
My mom felt a pain in the stomach
And she drive to the hospital @ Pantai for check up
And my dad got a call from her asking him to visit her

So he bring me and my sibling to visit her to know what happened
And my mom was looking dreadful, face green, weak body
My aunts visited
And the doctor said she need to undergo surgery ASAP
My aunt asked why(i wss at home while they stayed back)
The doctor does not gave a solid reason
And while my mom was resting
One of the nurses was talking about packages promotion on surgeries (WTF man? Patient ady sakit kuat kuat lagi bagi promo?l
My aunt just scolded her and hurriedly sent my mom back to ukm

And ukm checked and they feared that it might be cancer and started surgeries(3rd surgeries)
And is was cancer, Colon cancer / bowel cancer (sorry got mixed up, gonna reread the report when i get my hand on it)

The doctor removed the entire big intestine and make a hole on her stomach and put the small intestine as a new excretion system with a donut bag(a bag with a hole that shaped like a donut for the small intestine to excrete)

And after a month, my mom lost 30kg in a span of 2 month
But she been eating healthy(fish, rice, white noodles, vege, acidic fruit[lemon & orange from what i saw])
and we received the report
And the doctor suggested doing chemotherapy

But with my mom condition of losing body fats, 4 pint of blood lost during the surgeries, and she has a bad case of depression/lack of moods

I honestly don't think she should take chemotherapy

But i don't know what else to do to help her
Anyone know what else to do beside doing chemotherapy?
I heard the sideeffect is terrible and dangerous
Anyone has these kind of experience?
I feel really insecure and helpless and worried about my mom mental well being.

Sorry for the long posts
Just thought it best to write out everything incase of specific information needed :sweats:

u just need to be strong....hope your mom get well soon.

3 years back my wife was diagnosed with nose cancer (NPC). While its not the same as colon cancer, she had to do radio therapy and chemo (cisplatin) for 7 weeks.

She lost a lot of weight and was generally very week after 2 weeks of chemo. as I was her primary care giver, i had to make sure the house is always clean and avoid allowing too many people into her room to visit. She's got to be in a clean environment throughout the time of her treatment. Also note that her taste change as the chemo medication is platinum based so everything might start tasting metallish or fishy.

The hardest hit will be her emotional wellbeing. Make sure you and your family are there for her emotionally if you decide to do chemo.

A lot of people were suggesting alternative medication. I made my decision based on her recovery chance. As the onco for that. My wife's chances of recovery were high so we went for chemo.

Also make sure you do research yourself on care giving methods. Also do some research on the type of medication being administered. The hospital should also have support groups that will be useful as they can provide encouragement for your mom.

ok.........i roughly get the idea......
most likely 3 weeks ago got rupture of the wall of ?large intestine causing peritonitis......and most probably the doctors did a CT and decided to cut out a portion(unlikely to be the entire large intestine) of the ?large intestine and then take out the proximal loop of large intestine to do colostomy.
the staging is most likely by CT and visualisation during the operation.

i am curious about the histopathology report that mention the cancer.......the type of specimen and whether the margin is clear....
if the margin is not clear, there's a possibility of needing another surgery...

ok, here's my suggestion : the doctor that suggest you chemo is most likely a surgeon his knowledge in chemo or not is rather limited. just bring your mom and family members to go talk to the oncologist in charge for the options, and whether your mom is suitable for chemo.

I believe in natural therapy. The western method is not healing, it is just prolonging life to another few months while asking patient to suffer and pay huge amount for prolong few months life.
For healing to take place, the human body has the ability to heal itself.

Watch out what one eat. It is what you eat and what emotion you accept that cause disease - (dis -ease)

That is what I believe.

What do you recommend? Would likr to hear your opinion.

I don't recommend. There are stuff which you can help your mother. Get her metformin from nearest pharmacy. Is very cheap. It won't cure but it will help her. Put her on diabetic dosage. You can find info online.

After that switch to ketogenic diet. Must really have no carbs (potato, rice, mee). Drink lots of white tea+turmeric+black pepper+virgin coconut oil tea+lemon Do not drink water. Drink that instead. Go buy books on ketogenic diet recipe. Coconut oil, extra virgin olive oil, eggs will be your friend here

Vegetables, put lots of raw garlic and eat lots of broccoli. Do not go for chicken. Go for white fish, tofu, eggs, no sugar.

Juice anti cancer vegetables like broccoli, capsicum and drink regularly with the tea.

The above are some ways to beat cancer. Must make sure eat enough.

The western world is cut, burn and poison.

Wish you good luck good health

Nobody force you to buy or to consume, life is in your own hand.
your wisdom to decide continue suffering and stressful or make the right path.
Remember filial piety.

if you think stem cell is a scam.....
why President Barrack Obama approved feds funding for stem cell research in 2009?
http://stemcells.nih.gov/policy/Pages/Default.aspx

1. consuming stem cell is scam. what you eat is broken down to substances body can absorb..............simple sugar, amino acids, fatty acids.......it does not stay as stem cell.

2. source of stem cell.........how is that compatible with human?

3. is the stem cell still alive?


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not saying stem cell research is a scam, but the product you are marketing is definitely a scam

With treatment, Stage 3 got approximately about 40-80% survival rate depending on the sub stage. Ask your doctor about the exact staging and the expected 5 year survival rate for your mom before making any decision. Anyone can have colorectal cancer regardless of whether you are "healthy" or not. The key to successful cancer treatment is always early detection. Anyone over the age of 50(men especially) should go for annual colonoscopy to detect precancerous or cancerous lesions.

tldr;
Without chemo, confirm die, just a matter of when. Confirm suffer from cancer complications.(not only related to bowel, cancer can spread to other organs and cause other problems as well)
With chemo, might survive(ask the exact percentages from her doctor), might die, confirm suffer from side effects of chemo.

Consider these before making decision. And let your mother choose, she is the one that needs to choose whether she wants to fight or not.

edit: Regarding the earlier posts about metformin, bring it up to her doctor, metformin helps in prevention and also helps in therapy, but no conclusive evidence yet. Metformin has side effects too so don't simply give. Don't have negative perception about "western" medicine. There is no such thing as "western" or other kinds of medicine, there is only evidence based medicine. All treatments that the doctors suggest you mom is backed by the cumulative years of research by researchers all over the world.

This post has been edited by BryanKek: Oct 3 2015, 02:27 AM

Is still under research. Early stage. I rather go for proven stuff like lingzhi and stuff which can increase the body defence mechanism. Beside such prodouct you are selling is way over priced. RM6xxx-Rm8xxx per set. Better I go buy lingzhi. Not so expensive and can get a few kg with that kind of money. One can easily get lingzhi instead of paying RM6xxx-RM8xxxx from mountainrose from the US.

You can check out, meta-analyis of metformin (they look through 10k+ journals to look for evidence). Only side effect is drop in vitB12 which can be easily replaced by vitb12 from pharmacy. The dosage used in clinical studies are the dosage used by diabetic patients.

Metformin have been on the market for a long time. Almost ~40 years+. If is bad, it would be pull from the market. One need to think that drugs from companies are profit-driven. They need to get their money back and they cannot get their money back from natural stuff. Metformin is cheap compare to other cancer drugs. Hence no "official use" for it in cancer. So of cause Again like I said, metformin won't cure but it will help. Most oncology doctors won't know about this. All they know is cut, burn and poison. Try asking asnd see. I can bet with you they do not know metformin can be used.


This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 5 2015, 06:06 AM

#1: Warm water
Make sure you drink two cup of warm water in the morning between 5 to 7 a.m.
if possible add some sea salt or bamboo salt

You must get your colon clean first.

Colon is the most dirty place in the body. It keeps years of shit inside.

Many Chinese practise to drink a cup of warm water in the morning.

#2: Eat more vegetable, eat much lesser meat

This post has been edited by kent_lau7: Oct 3 2015, 11:00 AM

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This post has been edited by Tham: Oct 5 2015, 12:38 AM

Any else you will recommend? Would like to know your recommendation. Diet, other drugs, etc...

My mother in law had colon cancer stage 3 or 4 few year back. She did go through chemotherapy session, and it was a real suffer. Body became weak due to body cells killed during the chemotherapy.

She took alot of supplement products during that time. Such as Herbal Life and E.xcel during the chemotherapy session.

well as I know if you have your stem cell collected at birth, then chances it can be used by your mum. else others are most likely artificial stem cells or other people's stem cells. changes of it usable by a non related person is very very low.

as normal common advise is go for high antioxidant food - garlic broccoli...etc (just do a search on google), and try to avoid red meat as mush as possible. even fish you have to be careful. there are some fish which are actually not good. I am not sure if you are a chinese, malay or indian, but I think most elder person can tell you which fish are ok to take.

not to forget, drink lots of plain water.

and lastly, depends on what religion she believes in, let her get closer to it like some light reading or play some religious sermons or related stuffs for her. that is to help her calm her mood down. an angry and bad mood person kills more cells are some say. so try to keep her mood calm and happy.

I am not an expert in this field but this are some advise I hear a lot. so hopefully it will help you. And good luck to your family.

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This post has been edited by Tham: Oct 5 2015, 12:37 AM